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Discussion What will be the 6 GOTY nominations at The Game Awards 2023?

(PICK 6) What will be the 6 GOTY nominations at The Game Awards 2023?

  • Fire Emblem Engage

    Votes: 10 1.9%

  • Dead Space

    Votes: 22 4.2%

  • Resident Evil 4

    Votes: 329 62.8%

  • Dead Island 2

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Star Wars Jedi: Survivor

    Votes: 98 18.7%

  • Redfall

    Votes: 7 1.3%

  • The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

    Votes: 516 98.5%

  • Street Fighter 6

    Votes: 129 24.6%

  • Diablo 4

    Votes: 184 35.1%

  • Final Fantasy 16

    Votes: 386 73.7%

  • Hollow Knight: Silksong

    Votes: 114 21.8%

  • Pikmin 4

    Votes: 28 5.3%

  • Starfield

    Votes: 418 79.8%

  • Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon

    Votes: 94 17.9%

  • Assassin’s Creed Mirage

    Votes: 11 2.1%

  • Marvel’s Spider-Man 2

    Votes: 383 73.1%

  • Other (comment below)

    Votes: 31 5.9%

  • (edit) Super Mario Bros. Wonder

    Votes: 49 9.4%

  • (edit) Baldur's Gate 3

    Votes: 85 16.2%

  • (edit) Hi-Fi Rush

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Total voters
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Phantom Thief said:
I know, I agree

I mean I think 7R actually deserved the nomination

I don't think 16 will

I've made my peace with it though, it is what it is
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I haven’t played XVI yet, and I did in fact love VIIR (might have been my favorite game that year), but I felt like it’s reception was similarly contentious. Lots of love and hate for what they did.
 
karmitt said:
I haven’t played XVI yet, and I did in fact love VIIR (might have been my favorite game that year), but I felt like it’s reception was similarly contentious. Lots of love and hate for what they did.
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Ehhh, 7R has significantly higher highs (and lower lows) than 16.

16 is just not very good at what it tries to be (barring the spectacle which it is, well, spectacular at). But in almost every other regard - music, battle system, characters, RPG systems and mechanics - I prefer 7R to 16.

It's actually funny, 16 made me reassess 7R a bit, I was a bit more ambivalent towards it until 16 made me realize, no, a good version of what 16 tries is in fact possible, it came out three years ago.
 
I enjoyed FF16 a lot (think I might actually go for the platinum), it’s got it’s flaws for sure and it’s not the GOTY-sweeping return to form I wanted for the franchise, but I still want to see it get a nom and I do think it did a lot of stuff right. It’s a great game, one there’s not much else out there like.

In terms of getting recognition at the end of the year, I’d certainly like to see it get a nom over a remake of a 20 year old game that’s already gotten it’s flowers many times over throughout the years, as much as I love RE4. If it Spider Man 2 ends up being what I think it’s going to be (iterative improvement of an already “great but not GOTY great” game that gets around the same score as XVI), then I’d want to see XVI get a nod over that too.

Even at its lowest of lows (which XVI is far from), FF will always have that “trying something new and experimental” factor that I’ll always respect and want to see rewarded. The willingness SE has to change up its biggest franchise so much with every entry is a breath of fresh air compared to the rest of the industry.

And I also find XVI better than VIIR, which got a nom, so there’s that.
 
i kind of assumed xvi getting a 90+ metascore was a given, but it sits at an 87 right now and there's like 10 new games this year that have reviewed better with more to come for the rest of the year. i don't think a nomination for goty is a sure thing anymore.
 
I’m also throwing out that I still think Mario Wonder could have a better chance than I’ve seen anyone give it credit for.

Dread proved Nintendo’s 2D offerings could get some end of year recognition.
 
mazi said:
i kind of assumed xvi getting a 90+ metascore was a given, but it sits at an 87 right now and there's like 10 new games this year that have reviewed better with more to come for the rest of the year. i don't think a nomination for goty is a sure thing anymore.
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It’s sadly reminded me of Bayonetta 3, which everyone was sure would get a be a nomination shoo-in due to how well 2 reviewed (92), but now Bayo 3 sits at 86 and didn’t even get a GOTY nom last year

Which is heartbreaking to me because it’s a better game than 2 and was my GOTY

XVI is way less niche though so maybe that’ll help if.
 
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Phendrift said:
I enjoyed FF16 a lot (think I might actually go for the platinum), it’s got it’s flaws for sure and it’s not the GOTY-sweeping return to form I wanted for the franchise, but I still want to see it get a nom and I do think it did a lot of stuff right. It’s a great game, one there’s not much else out there like.
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Eh, no

The things it is good at (the spectacle and combat) are things multiple other games are great at (classic God of War for the spectacle, modern character action games for the combat). Which is not to say FF16 isn't great at them and that its own blend of those elements is not worth appreciating, but I disagree with the assertion there is not much else out there like it
As far as GOTY noms go, this is a stacked year. For my reckoning, there are already six games I would nominate over FF16, and that is before Starfield, Wonder, or Spider-Man (lol) are out

Phendrift said:
In terms of getting recognition at the end of the year, I’d certainly like to see it get a nom over a remake of a 20 year old game that’s already gotten it’s flowers many times over throughout the years, as much as I love RE4.
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I get this sentiment and would agree if this was a more straightforward remake (like Demon's Souls, Link's Awakening, for even Dead Space), but this is a far more ambitious effort amounting more to a reimagining than a remake. I think it has earned a nomination.

It also helps it is, like, borderline perfect.
 
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I think FF16 will still get a GOTY nom but surely won't win as the competition is too fierce.

That said, I think it's pretty much going to run away with the win in the music and actor performance categories.
 
mazi said:
i kind of assumed xvi getting a 90+ metascore was a given, but it sits at an 87 right now and there's like 10 new games this year that have reviewed better with more to come for the rest of the year. i don't think a nomination for goty is a sure thing anymore.
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Looking at MC for this year, outside of remasters, DLC and rereleases, the only 90+ MC games so far are:

TOTK (96)
RE4make (93)
Street Fighter 6 (92)
Diablo 4 (91)

So I don't really think there are tons of games outstripping it. That leaves Spider-Man 2 and Starfield which I would say are basically locks. I would be (pleasantly) surprised if Armored Core reviews better than FF16 and I think SF6 has biases against it as a fighting game (but would be very warranted if it got nominated). So to me the only way FF16 misses out is if either SF6 or AC gets that last spot. I still think D4 will be listed as well.

I suppose there's still Mario Wonder but I would be similarly pleasantly surprised if it got nominated even if it gets really good reviews.
 
Mekanos said:
Looking at MC for this year, outside of remasters, DLC and rereleases, the only 90+ MC games so far are:

TOTK (96)
RE4make (93)
Street Fighter 6 (92)
Diablo 4 (91)

So I don't really think there are tons of games outstripping it. That leaves Spider-Man 2 and Starfield which I would say are basically locks. I would be (pleasantly) surprised if Armored Core reviews better than FF16 and I think SF6 has biases against it as a fighting game (but would be very warranted if it got nominated). So to me the only way FF16 misses out is if either SF6 or AC gets that last spot. I still think D4 will be listed as well.

I suppose there's still Mario Wonder but I would be similarly pleasantly surprised if it got nominated even if it gets really good reviews.
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Yeah, this is partially why I think Zelda and RE are the main certainties at this point. Not only are they 90+, but they're single player action adventure games with stories which typically get more votes at the TGAs for GOTY in particular (which is why I still think FF is still the next likeliest, despite being high 80s).

SF and Diablo are certainly possible as well, but it's their genres that make it trickier.
 
I still think SF6 deserves a nomination because it’s bringing a lot of cool ideas to the fighting game genre. And I’m not even big on Street Fighter personally.
 
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JorgenRaft said:
Yeah, this is partially why I think Zelda and RE are the main certainties at this point. Not only are they 90+, but they're single player action adventure games with stories which typically get more votes at the TGAs for GOTY in particular (which is why I still think FF is still the next likeliest, despite being high 80s).

SF and Diablo are certainly possible as well, but it's their genres that make it trickier.
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RE4 loses points for being a remake though, I'd say all three are similarly likely to get a nom.

Dave the Diver sneaking in as the token indie?

Spider-Man 2, I dunno, I feel like I've already played that game twice already. It'll get a nomination cause of the production values and it'll be fun to play, but I can't see it being anything more than an 8 or 9 out of 10.
 
karmitt said:
Not that Starfield won’t impress or win, but I think you’re downplaying just how much Tears shakes things up. It’s a triumph that the game is sitting at 96 despite being in the same setting, when we were all clamoring for just more new land to traverse. It’s a testament to just how good and novel the new mechanics are, how many engaging moments they’ve nestled into that same world, and how near untouchable the Zelda team’s approach to exploration remains.
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SpaceGodzilla said:
then TOTK will win GOTY for sure
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meatbag said:
I don’t think we can say one way or the other without waiting for Starfield to release first. Though I will also challenge the notion that Tears of the Kingdom doesn’t “shake things up”.
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I’m not necessarily dunking on Tears here, but a lot of the discourse surrounding it reminds me of Red Dead Redemption 2, with both being bigger, more polished versions of their predecessors, stuffed to the brim with new mechanics and content.

And just like how RDR2 lost to the God of War reboot, I think Tears would lose to a successful “Bethesda reboot”. Tears obviously changes a lot of stuff, but by and large it is still very obviously a BotW sequel. That type of game generally hasn’t been favored for GOTY in the past, and if Starfield delivers on its promises (big, big if) I don’t think it should be favored here either.
 
Phendrift said:
Dread proved Nintendo’s 2D offerings could get some end of year recognition.
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Dread also released in a significantly weaker year. You could make a legitimate argument that none of the 2021 nominees would even be nominated this year. Some genres just don’t have as much luck as others, and 2D platformers (especially level-based ones) seem to be one of them.
 
Thunder84 said:
and if Starfield delivers on its promises (big, big if) I don’t think it should be favored here either
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That’s why this talk is premature. Starfield could be revolutionary in ways we haven’t seen yet, or it could be surprisingly mediocre. Until then, I’m not counting TotK out.
 
meatbag said:
That’s why this talk is premature. Starfield could be revolutionary in ways we haven’t seen yet, or it could be surprisingly mediocre. Until then, I’m not counting TotK out.
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Well, yeah. I don’t think anybody is. It’s all hypotheticals right now.
 
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mazi said:
i kind of assumed xvi getting a 90+ metascore was a given, but it sits at an 87 right now and there's like 10 new games this year that have reviewed better with more to come for the rest of the year. i don't think a nomination for goty is a sure thing anymore.
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High scores aren't the only factor here. TGA tends to favor single-player story-focused AAA games, and any game like that reviewing 85+ is usually a lock, so FF16 is probably still in. Same for Spider-Man 2. (Sources: Forza Horizon 5 being snubbed in 2021)
 
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I am really surprised that Baldur's Gate 3 is not on this list. I'd honestly say that it is between Zelda, Starfield, and BG3. You probably don't think of BG3 because it has been in early access for three years. The final version comes out Aug 3rd. The early access content was 1/4 the final amount. There is 174-hours of cinematics (though you will see a very small fraction since it is based on choices). There is more text dialogue then in the entire Game of Thrones series. The graphics and game play is simply magnificent. There is probably more videos on it than practically the other games combined.
 
Just realized how low AC6 is currently, in some way I just wanna yell "what's wrong with yall" but on the other hand I guess it speaks to how strong of a year it's been.
 
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Xythereal said:
I am really surprised that Baldur's Gate 3 is not on this list. I'd honestly say that it is between Zelda, Starfield, and BG3. You probably don't think of BG3 because it has been in early access for three years. The final version comes out Aug 3rd. The early access content was 1/4 the final amount. There is 174-hours of cinematics (though you will see a very small fraction since it is based on choices). There is more text dialogue then in the entire Game of Thrones series. The graphics and game play is simply magnificent. There is probably more videos on it than practically the other games combined.
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BG3 could surprise us and snag a nomination. I would say it's a low probability, but not zero. However, there's not a chance in hell it wins IMO. It's just not the kind of game TGA goes for. Divinity Original Sin II wasn't even nominated
 
BG3 could surprise us and snag a nomination. I would say it's a low probability, but not zero. However, there's not a chance in hell it wins IMO. It's just not the kind of game TGA goes for. Divinity Original Sin II wasn't even nominated
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CRPGs are never really nominated for GOTY awards since they are not really triple AAA games. That includes Divinity Original Sin II and Pathfinder Wrath. BG3 is truly the exception to the rule because it is without doubt a triple AAA game so we shall see ;)
 
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Xythereal said:
I am really surprised that Baldur's Gate 3 is not on this list. I'd honestly say that it is between Zelda, Starfield, and BG3. You probably don't think of BG3 because it has been in early access for three years. The final version comes out Aug 3rd. The early access content was 1/4 the final amount. There is 174-hours of cinematics (though you will see a very small fraction since it is based on choices). There is more text dialogue then in the entire Game of Thrones series. The graphics and game play is simply magnificent. There is probably more videos on it than practically the other games combined.
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Yeah there are a handful I forgot like that and Hi Fi Rush but I'm just leaving it at "other" for those who want to pick anything else. I tried adding Mario Wonder to the poll but it seemed to make minimal difference since it was added late.
 
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I think it's going to be next to impossible for any game to beat TOTK especially when we look at the overall GOTY awards given out not just the TGA show. TOTK looks to win at the TGA show as well though. It has the scores, sales, innovation and prestige they are looking for not to mention it's polished to a fine sheen.

Starfield looks very impressive but the 3 second slices of gameplay in the presentation left me a little skeptical. The game is probably going to be too janky and buggy to take the GOTY and there is going to be too much disconnect from flying, landing and exploring. No land vehicles is also a bit of a red flag. I'm sure the game will be fantastic with what it DOES offer, but TOTK is just too seamless, deep and polished not to win.
 
Magic-Man said:
I'm wondering if Pikmin 4 might sneak in for a GOTY nomination. It reviewed extremely well, is a major exclusive, and offers something different than the other titles on the list. There's a chance.
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I think in past years it would definitely have a better shot at a nomination but I think there might be too many more popular heavy hitters in 2023 for it to squeeze in. I'd love to be wrong, though.
 
Magic-Man said:
I'm wondering if Pikmin 4 might sneak in for a GOTY nomination. It reviewed extremely well, is a major exclusive, and offers something different than the other titles on the list. There's a chance.
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I'd give it like a 1% chance. It might end up being my Goty, but I think games with similar MC scores (FF16, Diablo 4, and even Hi-Fi Rush) have a better chance at securing a nom.
 
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Magic-Man said:
I'm wondering if Pikmin 4 might sneak in for a GOTY nomination. It reviewed extremely well, is a major exclusive, and offers something different than the other titles on the list. There's a chance.
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It’s floating around metascore of FF16 and probably SM2, and genre dictates FF16 and SM2 will secure the nom
 
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Metascore plays into it less than you’d think. It’s pretty common for high 80s to low 90s games to get snubbed entirely.

I’d love for Pikmin to get a nomination, but the actual chances if it happening are very low.
 
Sampdoria said:
Zelda
Starfield
Spiderman 2
Baldur's Gate 3
RE4 remake

These 5 are basically confirmed. Baldur's Gate 3 is going to score over 90 and it's not even in the OP. I can see FFXVI being snubbed.
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I rather see BG2 getting snugged than FF16 to be honest. BG3 does not look like a confirmed lock for me.
 
my original votes were:

Zelda
Final Fantasy
Street Fighter
Starfield
Spider-Man 2
Resident Evil 4

But I can see Armored Core or Diablo making the cut if Starfield underwhelms. As the year has gone on, I don’t think it’s Star Wars, Dead Space, or Mario Wonder.

…just saying, it could be Pikmin 4 (it won’t be)
 
Sampdoria said:
Zelda
Starfield
Spiderman 2
Baldur's Gate 3
RE4 remake

These 5 are basically confirmed. Baldur's Gate 3 is going to score over 90 and it's not even in the OP. I can see FFXVI being snubbed.
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I have no idea if Baldur's Gate 3 will make GOTY, but not getting nominated would seem pure madness lol.
 
Xythereal said:
I have no idea if Baldur's Gate 3 will make GOTY, but not getting nominated would seem pure madness lol.
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There might just not be enough "space" for 2 large wrpgs. Granted if BG3 scores as highly as I think it potentially could (like 95+) it really should get the nom.
 
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With the Armored core gameplay and previews, I think I'm changing my list to:
TOTK
Starfield
FFXVI
Armored Core 6
RE4 Remake
Spderman 2

I don't expect BG3 to be nominated just because of it's genre.
I can see Spiderman 2 being left out in favor of an indie game.
 
Spider-Man 2 is not gonna get left out. You can take that one straight to the bank, no questions asked.

Out of the assumed top 6 at the moment, Street Fighter 6 and Final Fantasy XVI are the most likely cuts, with Starfield as a slight maybe if it really flunks. The other three are about as close to guaranteed as you can get.
 
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This is were I just get confused... so many of the games that people just "know" will be GOTY have not been released! I am looking forward to Spiderman 2, Starfield, Armored Core, etc but these are what-ifs given to us through cinematics and perhaps selected gameplay. Now some of you that "know" might have been through beta testing? Perhaps you just know it is rigged? They could have horrible launches or simply be not as good as expected. Okay, we know some of the GOTY contenders already.
 
I think the obvious locks are TotK and Starfield, I could see both spiderman 2 and ff16 getting in and after that it's truly chaos, armored core 6 has the from software factor and looks crazy so it's probably getting nominated. The other big ones seems to be diablo 4, resi4 and I guess Baldur gate 3 but I think that's an easy cut, same thing for street fighter 6 sadly.
I'm still pretty sure that ff16 will get a nomination even if it's getting the same hype it had pre release, it's still final fantasy. I don't remember my first list but i think we're getting this.
Totk
Starfield
Armored core 6
Ff16
Spider man 2
Diablo4/resi 4
Still think the race will be between zelda and Starfield, if Starfield delivers it will probably win otherwise we're getting a 2017 2. Armored core 6 is a dark horse pick though and it wouldn't surprise me if it becomes the game of the year, but they gave from software the goty last year too with elden ring so it's unlikely we'll get the 2peat
 
Kartina said:
I think the obvious locks are TotK and Starfield, I could see both spiderman 2 and ff16 getting in and after that it's truly chaos, armored core 6 has the from software factor and looks crazy so it's probably getting nominated. The other big ones seems to be diablo 4, resi4 and I guess Baldur gate 3 but I think that's an easy cut, same thing for street fighter 6 sadly.
I'm still pretty sure that ff16 will get a nomination even if it's getting the same hype it had pre release, it's still final fantasy. I don't remember my first list but i think we're getting this.
Totk
Starfield
Armored core 6
Ff16
Spider man 2
Diablo4/resi 4
Still think the race will be between zelda and Starfield, if Starfield delivers it will probably win otherwise we're getting a 2017 2. Armored core 6 is a dark horse pick though and it wouldn't surprise me if it becomes the game of the year, but they gave from software the goty last year too with elden ring so it's unlikely we'll get the 2peat
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Totk is a good game. Very well done. It will be on the list even if the reason is political. FF16 fell behind Resident 4 and I still am not sure if either is worthy. Diablo 4 is... well... the same thing with perhaps better graphics. If this is nominated I will know something is not right. Spiderman 2, Armored Core, and Starfield are all wishful thinking since they have not landed. Hell, the promotions look great!
 
Xythereal said:
Totk is a good game. Very well done. It will be on the list even if the reason is political. FF16 fell behind Resident 4 and I still am not sure if either is worthy. Diablo 4 is... well... the same thing with perhaps better graphics. If this is nominated I will know something is not right. Spiderman 2, Armored Core, and Starfield are all wishful thinking since they have not landed. Hell, the promotions look great!
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I'll be honest, I think Starfield and spiderman 2 will be nominated regardless of their quality, which is the same thing I thought about zelda, they're games too big and too important for the 3 consoles to not be nominated, we're definitely getting 3 games to represent the 3 console manufacturers and those are the 3 main games this year, with spiderman 2 maybe sharing the spotlight with final fantasy 16. I'm starting to think that re4 is a more obvious pick than ff16 though but I still expect both of them in the nominations
 
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Thunder84 said:
Metascore plays into it less than you’d think. It’s pretty common for high 80s to low 90s games to get snubbed entirely.

I’d love for Pikmin to get a nomination, but the actual chances if it happening are very low.
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it should if ff16 is being treated as inevitable so should pikmin 4
 
thoughthaver said:
it should if ff16 is being treated as inevitable so should pikmin 4
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FFXVI could get cut, sure, but let’s not pretend that a big budget AAA action RPG from a renowned franchise has the same chances of getting nominated as Pikmin. The Game Awards has never favored smaller AA stuff, while FFXVI is right in its wheelhouse.

I’d be surprised if FFXVI isn’t nominated and absolutely floored if Pikmin is nominated.
 
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