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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST5| Uncharted Territory: Drake's Deception

When is the next general full-length Direct?

  • June

    Votes: 130 38.0%

  • July

    Votes: 40 11.7%

  • August

    Votes: 15 4.4%

  • September

    Votes: 129 37.7%

  • October

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • November

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • December

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • January

    Votes: 13 3.8%

  • February

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Never

    Votes: 11 3.2%
  • Total voters
    342
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Really hope we’ll see Metroid Prime 4 soon.
Fusion took 19 years to finally get a sequel.
Prime 3 is 16 years old (gargl) and we’ve seen a logo from a now rebooted game.
 
Lord Azrael said:
No way. Aren't the DLC waves dated for fall and winter? Probably meaning Q4 2023 and Q1 2024. And Nintendo already said no new hardware this fiscal year. I agree that gen 10 would not be on the Switch considering it's coming 2025 at the earliest, but something like a Let's Go or Legends game could easily launch on Switch after the succ is already out.
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Nintendo did not say no new hardware this fiscal year. That was bad reporting.

The experimental title is still a very new part of the pattern, but it doesn't really fit into the classic generational mold. Both times Game Freak has done it, it's been based on the new version of their engine for the next generation, not the previous one, including platform. If Gen 10 is for Switch 2, then the logical assumption at this point is that the experimental title will be as well. This is part of why I'm even entertaining the idea of a Gen 10 that still supports Switch 1.

The only "mainline" Pokémon that would be guaranteed to support Switch 1 after SV is another outsourced remake, but we have no idea when or if another one of those is coming.
 
I like how each month got at least one vote. Maybe the one October guy is right and we all were played for fools.
 
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It's really nice of Nintendo to let Pikmin fans enjoy one month of marketing uninterrupted by any pesky Directs. They only get to experience this feeling once a decade.
 
GamerJM said:
It's pretty bad outside the NX iirc. They would deny new versions of the 3DS not long before announcing a new model all the time. Also, there's not a lot of relevant data on this because the industry used to be way different with console announcement -> release times. The "Ultra 64" was announced years before release (and we had a lot more info on it than we had on the NX at the time), that just doesn't happen anymore because there's no reason to build hype for that long when news can spread online in seconds and everyone has a phone on them to read it.
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Pokemaniac said:
Nintendo did not say no new hardware this fiscal year. That was bad reporting.
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So what I’m hearing is that Switch 2 2023 is still on the table

/hj
 
Cyrus said:
So what I’m hearing is that Switch 2 2023 is still on the table

/hj
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It's not.....impossible, but 2023 specifically is pretty unlikely I think. Usually we at least would have heard of devkit rumblings by now. Pokemaniac will emphatically disagree with this though lol.

I think basically any time in 2024 is possible though, from Q1 to Q4.

I will never trust anyone that says Metroid is a big IP, but not DK. Stop falling prey to boomer American journalists.
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I said in terms of reception or sales, one or the other. Metroid definitely doesn't clear sales but it's like one of two Nintendo franchises that can reliably win Game of the Year awards. They know it's a big deal, that's why they announced Prime 4 so far in advance and had Dread as a centerpiece-level announcement that coincided with the OLED's launch. I realize this is still a hot take though, and it is admittedly kinda driven by my boomer 2000s-era-forum brain.
 
Magic-Man said:
It's really nice of Nintendo to let Pikmin fans enjoy one month of marketing uninterrupted by any pesky Directs. They only get to experience this feeling once a decade.
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Putting Directs aside, this is currently true provided they can get over the overwhelming stench of Stinky Horse.
 
GamerJM said:
It's not.....impossible, but 2023 specifically is pretty unlikely I think. Usually we at least would have heard of devkit rumblings by now. Pokemaniac will emphatically disagree with this though lol.

I think basically any time in 2024 is possible though, from Q1 to Q4.
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If new hardware launches in the first half of 2024, that would be because it was supposed to release this holiday and got delayed. Nintendo generally aims for a holiday launch.
 
ShadyWadey said:
Genuine question: have you ever thought about not being coy and just sharing info that you know? If you don’t want stuff to get misreported, why not just come out, say what you know or don’t know and be done with it? Why all these clues and hints?
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I've flat-out said "A Direct is coming on such & such" and it still gets misreported or tied to rumors from other people & then people come at me claiming I misled them.
 
xghost777 said:
Putting Directs aside, this is currently true provided they can get over the overwhelming stench of Stinky Horse.
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Not joking when I say I personally hope there is a dedicated Pikmin Direct on the week of that game, specifically Thursday just so it can somewhat(if not completely)overshadow the travesty that is Everybody 1-2 Switch(I would say Friday, the day it actually comes out, but unfortunately I know Nintendo doesn't do Directs of any kind on those days).
 
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Pokemaniac said:
If new hardware launches in the first half of 2024, that would be because it was supposed to release this holiday and got delayed. Nintendo generally aims for a holiday launch.
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Do they? I know the Switch was supposed to launch in holiday 2016 and got delayed, but the GBA and the 3DS both launched in early 2001 and 2011 respectively. N64 also released in June in Japan, September in NA, and March in Europe. Their revisions almost always miss the holidays as well; GBA SP, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS XL, New 3DS XL, New 2DS XL, and Switch Lite were all also released outside of the holiday season in NA. There's not a lot of data to suggest that they always launch in the holiday season, though admittedly that is when a lot of their home consoles released.
 
I feel like, in terms of predictions, it's reasonable to go:
  • Switch 2 is releasing pretty imminently, and therefore there won't be any significant releases between now and then; or
  • Switch 2 is still a decent way off, and Nintendo must therefore have a roadmap of games of varying levels of significance to fill the months between now and them, all of which will be announced at some point.
I am not persuaded by arguments that Switch 1 is already winding down but Switch 2 isn't until last next year. That doesn't sell 15 million consoles, or make for an orderly transition.
 
GmanSir said:
I will never trust anyone that says Metroid is a big IP, but not DK. Stop falling prey to boomer American journalists.
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Pokemaniac said:
If new hardware launches in the first half of 2024, that would be because it was supposed to release this holiday and got delayed. Nintendo generally aims for a holiday launch.
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I think we are already at the point where it got delayed behind the scenes. There'd be way more noise if it was coming in five months.

Anywhere from April - November 2024 is the likely range of new hardware.
 
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GamerJM said:
Do they? I know the Switch was supposed to launch in holiday 2016 and got delayed, but the GBA and the 3DS both launched in early 2001 and 2011 respectively. N64 also released in June in Japan, September in NA, and March in Europe.
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Both of those handhelds were delayed too. GBA was initially reported as launching in August 2000 in Japan and by the holidays in North America and Europe; whereas the delay of the 3DS was publicly commented on by Iwata:

When we made the original financial forecasts for this fiscal year, we thought that it would be desirable to launch Nintendo 3DS by the end of this calendar year and, with that as the premise, we made the financial forecasts and the plans . . . However, we have come to understand that, if we launched it this calendar year, it would be difficult to produce a sufficient amount. Also, in terms of the completion level of the product, we believe that it will reach the most satisfactory level by our standards if we will launch it on the date we just announced.
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I think it's fairly apparent at this point that Nintendo's next hardware is not launching this calendar year, and fiscal year is looking unlikely too based on their forecasts from last month, so i'm not in disagreement there. They'll reveal their Fall lineup somewhere and somehow, and if it weren't for the dooming whispers of nothing until September a Direct before Pikmin 4 launches would be the clear logical answer.
 
GamerJM said:
Do they? I know the Switch was supposed to launch in holiday 2016 and got delayed, but the GBA and the 3DS both launched in early 2001 and 2011 respectively. N64 also released in June in Japan, September in NA, and March in Europe. Their revisions almost always miss the holidays as well; GBA SP, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS XL, New 3DS XL, New 2DS XL, and Switch Lite were all also released outside of the holiday season in NA. There's not a lot of data to suggest that they always launch in the holiday season, though admittedly that is when a lot of their home consoles released.
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I believe 3DS was originally intended to launch in Japan in 2010. Not sure about GBA, but that was a long time ago and had the GCN launch shortly after to avoid.
 
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D36 said:
Hate to say it, but if things pan out the way I think they are, we'll be lucky to get a Direct even in September. So, I must bid farewell to #TeamJune and join #TeamSeptember. Sorry, Lukas 😥

Unless we get a Mini, I'd be down for that.
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Your problem, you will regret.
 
I really wish people would stop being so antagonistic towards Nate and other insiders. I feel like it shouldn't be that hard to be civil.
 
Team June has won the poll, I expected nothing less from my people. The Grubb rumor barely added only few votes to Team July. I swear that I will proudly get us to victory royale.
 
Koren Lesthe said:
Really hope we’ll see Metroid Prime 4 soon.
Fusion took 19 years to finally get a sequel.
Prime 3 is 16 years old (gargl) and we’ve seen a logo from a now rebooted game.
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See, this is what people don’t understand. You all think that 2017 was our first teaser of Metroid Prime 4.

No, the 100% completion ending of Metroid Prime 3 was. I’ve been waiting for this game since 2007! 🙃
 
RochHoch said:
This is what I expect at this point

My guess is that they must be going all in on making sure Switch 2 has a healthy software lineup, so the Switch gets to coast on Zelda for at least a year because they aint got shit for it
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Is there a particular reason people don’t assume they will crossgen the hell out of the hypothetical Switch 2 lineup?

Like, Microsoft and Sony have been riding the crossgen train for years, but it will be Nintendo who will dump the third best selling console of all time in a clean break?
 
Joe said:
It bothers me how everyone is just accepting Metroid Prime 4 will be exclusive to the next system as if that's fact.

Makes me think we're going to see a lot of disappointment when, lo and behold, Metroid Prime 4 is a Switch exclusive and not coming to the next system at all.
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where did the sudden "mp4 wont be crossgen" wave come from? i thought most people accepted that it made sense lol.
 
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Sander RX said:
Is there a particular reason people don’t assume they will crossgen the hell out of the hypothetical Switch 2 lineup?

Like, Microsoft and Sony have been riding the crossgen train for years, but it will be Nintendo who will dump the third best selling console of all time in a clean break?
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Honestly I'd be more surprised if they didn't. Maybe it's because my mind is still hung up on my initial assumption from years ago of Nintendo doing an iPhone-style iterative approach but I just can't see Nintendo breaking the line immediately with new 1st party software that won't also run (at much lower resolution) on the current Switch. The current install base is just so damn big, trying to shuffle them all onto a new platform immediately might cause a lot of the more casual players and families to fall off.

I know this is anecdotal but a lot of the people I know who have Switches bought them as their first gaming console in years, if not decades. If games suddenly started coming out that didn't work on the Switch they owned, I doubt they'd go out and buy a new system, they'd just not buy new games. And that seems like a situation Nintendo would want to avoid, I think.
 
Yeah I would expect Nintendo to go crossgen for early Switch 2. Any games that won't be playable on OG Switch will probably be the more demanding games from third parties.
 
Sander RX said:
Is there a particular reason people don’t assume they will crossgen the hell out of the hypothetical Switch 2 lineup?

Like, Microsoft and Sony have been riding the crossgen train for years, but it will be Nintendo who will dump the third best selling console of all time in a clean break?
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I mean, Nintendo doing that does make a ton of sense.

That's why the complete lack of literally anything announced after Pikmin is baffling, it makes it feel like support for the console is starting to taper off entirely.
 
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I think we know the real reason why there hasn't been any news...

...that's right every month will be Stinky Horse Month!

Everybody 3! 4! Switch for July!
Everybody 5! 6! Switch for Augst!
Everybody 7! 8! Switch for September!

Endless stinky horses!
 
I just find the “they HAVE to announce stuff for after Pikmin 4” argument funny. Switch is the third best selling system of all time, they just released a game that’s going to sell at least 10 million units this year alone and dominate GOTY discussions, and the most famous creative at Nintendo is releasing a passion project in a month. They are in a gooooooood spot right now.

They are in such a good spot right now, that they can drop an absolute stinker at the end of June and they will still be considered one of the top publishers of the year. That’s based solely on what we have now. If we get a direct in June or we have to wait until the end of the year, I’m just glad they are in the position they are in now, and not like they were in 2016.
 
HeyItsPulse said:
I just find the “they HAVE to announce stuff for after Pikmin 4” argument funny
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Mainly we think they're going to announce stuff because of hardware sales target, which will be hard to reach if they're only going to have Stinky Horse and Pikmin 4 for H2. Though for me the stronger reasoning is that Nintendo wouldn't have packed H1 with stuff if they didn't have anything for H2.
 
HeyItsPulse said:
the most famous creative at Nintendo is releasing a passion project in a month
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Crediting Pikmin 4 to Miyamoto like that rubs me the wrong way. He was General Producer for 3, which honestly isn't that big of a deal. Even if he shows up for Directs and whatnot, the brunt of the work (even the creative one) is not being done by him.
 
I think there's sound logic behind a more substantial crossgen approach, but I also think Nintendo typically changes at a languid pace, and considering in the past the cross-gen games have almost entirely been comprised of a very limited count of already promised titles they didn't want to jettison on an old model, I am not expecting a steep influx of cross-gen software like the other two provide.

Some, perhaps. But any proposition that requires Nintendo breaking precedent isn't something I'm fully convinced of. When a Nintendo game is revealed for a new platform, how many times has it been accompanied of a previous gen version as well? Really not much.

To me it makes a bit more sense for third-parties. In principle. In practice, many probably won't bother getting their potentially taxing games running on the Switch at that point. Third-party crossgen may be more relegated to the lower-budget, lower-profile stuff like that which we're mostly now getting.

So I'm not claiming we're done with the notable original Switch titles. But I do think from here on out, the ports/remakes/spin-offs are going to shoulder most of the schedule, and software for the next system will see scarce co-releases on the antecedent.
 
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HeyItsPulse said:
I just find the “they HAVE to announce stuff for after Pikmin 4” argument funny. Switch is the third best selling system of all time, they just released a game that’s going to sell at least 10 million units this year alone and dominate GOTY discussions, and the most famous creative at Nintendo is releasing a passion project in a month. They are in a gooooooood spot right now.

They are in such a good spot right now, that they can drop an absolute stinker at the end of June and they will still be considered one of the top publishers of the year. That’s based solely on what we have now. If we get a direct in June or we have to wait until the end of the year, I’m just glad they are in the position they are in now, and not like they were in 2016.
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Miyamoto isn’t releasing anything. He has small takes on game development. The director, producer and everyone else is making Pikmin 4. This isn’t a passion project. This is the next game in a series they want to grow.
 
Persona domains have been updated just recently: P5T and P3RE. In fact there's so many rumours about Atlus these past months and it seems they are going to announce a lot of games at the Xbox Showcase.

I'm really hoping they come to Switch lol.

Unless they don't announce it until a Nintendo Direct/Partner Showcase?
 
Ozzie said:
Persona domains have been updated just recently: P5T and P3RE. In fact there's so many rumours about Atlus these past months and it seems they are going to announce a lot of games at the Xbox Showcase.

I'm really hoping they come to Switch lol.

Unless they don't announce it until a Nintendo Direct/Partner Showcase?
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We most likely see it on Sunday, at least P3R. We could see the weird marketing beat of P5R from last year.

As for P5T, I am convinced its a tabletop game lol. Metal Gear did it recently, Atlus wants to milk that cow dry.
 
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The idea of a slow company like Retro, that spent years on a super remastered of Prime probably to actually get thmeselves in to the switch hardware for Prime 4 make really difficult to think Prime 4 will be native on switch 2, also retrocompatiblity maybe an update

Also I think people understimate Nintendo just wanting to be free of Prime 4 and start a clean sleat of announcment for Switch 2
 
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