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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST5| Uncharted Territory: Drake's Deception

When is the next general full-length Direct?

  • June

    Votes: 130 38.0%

  • July

    Votes: 40 11.7%

  • August

    Votes: 15 4.4%

  • September

    Votes: 129 37.7%

  • October

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • November

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • December

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • January

    Votes: 13 3.8%

  • February

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Never

    Votes: 11 3.2%
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    342
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Maybe if I was crazy enough to be active in the hardware thread I'd disagree but I kinda feel hardware is Sep 2024 at the earliest.
Honestly I have been feeling e3's death may mean 2 directs a year but at the same time they dated nothing for fall, I'm sure they're aware how people prefer directs from how it overtakes twitter, so if nothing else they'd at least reveal more H2 stuff there rather then twitter I think, so I don't know. Xbox if no one else seems to view June as still the big news time, Sony close to it tho idk if considered biggest show, Nintendo if anyone may change cause I feel some of there e3s have been worse then feb directs which usually hit hard (Sep last year felt like "TGS requires us to do something and we have like FE and Kirby uh")

I hope if there is something this month it's after the 22nd cause my schedule works better that way, but I understand many would be very antsy then.
Regardless of if e3 killed june directs or not it did kill the longer date confirmation, like feb and sep directs 1-2 days in advance is what we'll get now which is never very convenient
 
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Pokemaniac said:
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Big Pokémon News from Tokyo

New mobile experiences, a new Detective Pikachu on Nintendo Switch, and more were announced at the Pokémon 2019 Press Conference.
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"POKÉMON CONTINUES TO EVOLVE WITH NEW INITIATIVES COMING SOON" - The Pokémon Company North America Official Press Site

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This wasn't some offhand mention in an interview. By any reasonable definition, the game was formally announced. It's just probably too far removed from Nintendo to be included on their release lists.
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If it was formally announced, it would be on their release schedule. Bayonetta 3, Metorid Prime 4 and "The Sequel to the Breath of the Wild" all went on Nintendo's release shedule, so it has nothing to do with being far removed.
 
RaymondBryce said:
If it was formally announced, it would be on their release schedule. Bayonetta 3, Metorid Prime 4 and "The Sequel to the Breath of the Wild" all went on Nintendo's release shedule, so it has nothing to do with being far removed.
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How can a game that was literally in a press release not be formally announced? Like I keep saying, it's just not really a Nintendo project.
 
About Metroid Prime 4, i don't think it's coming next this year. HOWEVER i do think it could be the "one more thing" game for the Summer Direct, with a 'Early 2024' release window. Then in the obligatory September Direct they'll reveal a bunch of info about the game, alongside a proper release date of sometime March 2024. But that's just my deranged prediction.
 
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LukasManak22 said:
It depends on when it's launching. If it's something like late 2024 then it can still release on this Switch, the install base is huge. Let's not forget they also released specially crafted version of DQ11 on 3DS.
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True; I've always been of the opinion that the game will release in 2025 and by that point be too late for a Switch 1 release (assuming the successor is this year or early 2024), but a Switch/Switch 2 crossgen release in 2024 or even early 2025 is definitely plausable.
 
Raccoon said:
why would people like it?
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The same way people were okay with Nintendo going from 8+ Directs a year down to 4, then 3, and now 2.

At this rate I'd much rather Nintendo just go back to having one big annual blowout event, like their E3 conferences used to be.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
1. We do not know if the chip was "taped out" for the Switch 2 or just for some Shield device or something else
2. We do not know if the taping out was actually completed, he just said he worked on the project while he was still there.
3. No info has been provided by people here on whether or not taped out chips are frequently cancelled or held back for years (because it's basically impossible to get info like this)
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1. It's extremely unlikely that the chip NVN2, Nintendo's next API, was designed around, is for anything other than Nintendo's next device.
2. We do know it was actually completed. It was manufactured. This isn't even a leak, its physical existence is known.
3. Taped out, MANUFACTURED, TESTED, and SOFTWARE SUPPORTED chips in their finalised state that have already has OS support created, committed and open sourced do not tend to be chips that were or are cancelled.

"Kat Bailey" or "Eurogamer" are sometimes reliable. But they are not relevant. Sometimes things don't leak. Sometimes things leak through different channels. Factory workers sure seem confident about a new device. I wouldn't weigh Eurogamer's word over theirs, personally.

Anyway, what, did the two of us take a wrong turn at Albuquerque and miss the turn-off to Hardware Speculation?
 
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You're all going to feel ashamed of your words and deeds when the cinematic open world 3d Zelda 2 remake is announced at Not-E3 this year.
 
Concernt said:
1. It's extremely unlikely that the chip NVN2, Nintendo's next API, was designed around, is for anything other than Nintendo's next device.
2. We do know it was actually completed. It was manufactured. This isn't even a leak, its physical existence is known.
3. Taped out, MANUFACTURED, TESTED, and SOFTWARE SUPPORTED chips in their finalise state that have already has OS support created, committed and open sourced do not tend to be chips that were or are cancelled.

"Kat Bailey" or "Eurogamer" are sometimes reliable. But they are not relevant. Sometimes things don't leak. Sometimes things leak through different channels. Factory workers sure seem confident about a new device. I wouldn't weigh Eurogamer's word over theirs, personally.

Anyway, what, did the two of us take a wrong turn at Albuquerque and miss the turn-off to Hardware Speculation?
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"Sometimes hardware just doesn't get announced until immediately before release and none of the 1000s developers or promoters or testers leak to major gaming or business sites before the announcement" is uhhhhhh, not true. This would definitely be unprecedented and it's probably not happening if it's not announced in the next 2-3 days (which it almost certainly won't be).

This next Direct will just be about more Switch games.
 
not sure why anyone would be upset about there not being a direct since Robinson says Nintendo doesn't have any games anyways

you guys really wanna tune in that badly just to watch Pikmin get cancelled in real time?
 
Pokemaniac said:
How can a game that was literally in a press release not be formally announced? Like I keep saying, it's just not really a Nintendo project.
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What would make the Detective Pickachu sequel "not really a Nintendo project" compared to every other Pokemon game, including the original Detective Pickachu?

The situiation this is most similar to is E3 2017, when Inishara mentiend that Gamefreak was working on a core Pokemon RPG for Switch. This wasn't the formal announcement of Sword and Shield though, so it wasn't incldued in Nintendo's lists.
 
The best part of Directs is when the halfway point hits and that rumored game you've been looking forward to hasn't shown up yet

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RaymondBryce said:
What would make the Detective Pickachu sequel "not really a Nintendo project" compared to every other Pokemon game, including the original Detective Pickachu?

The situiation this is most similar to is E3 2017, when Inishara mentiend that Gamefreak was working on a core Pokemon RPG for Switch. This wasn't the formal announcement of Sword and Shield though, so it wasn't incldued in Nintendo's lists.
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Pokémon spin-offs are frequently published mainly by The Pokémon Company themselves rather than Nintendo.
 
Pokemaniac said:
How can a game that was literally in a press release not be formally announced? Like I keep saying, it's just not really a Nintendo project.
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Pokemon spinoffs on console have always been published by Nintendo and included in the software lineup once announced. Only the mobile games like Unite or the digital TCG are published by TPC themselves
Pokemaniac said:
Pokémon spin-offs are frequently published mainly by The Pokémon Company themselves rather than Nintendo.
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Only the ones that are also on mobile or only on other platforms, which I suspect won't apply to Detective Pikachu 2...
 
HockeyBird said:
The best part of Directs is when the halfway point hits and that rumored game you've been looking forward to hasn't shown up yet

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the February one last year with all the Fire Emblem rumors and then them opening on a Warriors game was especially funny

I was so upset till they got to the Mario Kart and Xenoblade at the end 😅
 
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HockeyBird said:
The best part of Directs is when the halfway point hits and that rumored game you've been looking forward to hasn't shown up yet

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Silksong fans know how that feels. It's routine at this point.

Dark Cloud said:
This topic moves kind of fast for a direct that’s not even happening for at least a month minimum lol
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Truth is, deep down we are posting like crazy in an empty attempt to escape the unbearable pain that is the waiting for Friday.
 
MisterSpo said:
This is exactly why they need to keep software output on Switch going consistently. It's by far and away the biggest part of their revenue stream, and it'll take some time for a new platform to become the majority revenue stream. Because of that, it makes zero sense to have six to twelve months without much software.

If they do that, not only do they accelerate Switch's decline, and therefore the decline of their own primary revenue stream, but they may well damage their own reputation (software 'droughts' etc), which could damage consumer confidence in their next system. It would also drive down engagement in the Switch platform as a whole, which is bad for every other metric, like third party sales, subscriptions, and DLC.

Nintendo reorganised so that they could consistently put out software during a hardware transition, precisely to protect all those metrics, like engagement and revenue. If we're approaching the transition, as seems likely, then if Nintendo have succeeded in their unified development environment the way they envisaged, then software support should continue consistently.

If Nintendo need to stockpile games for new hardware, then that means their development environment isn't good enough to support multiple platforms through a strong transition. If that's the case, then that's a big failing for the company, and not a positive situation.
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I don't believe any of this is wrong, but "support two devices, even if in a reduced capacity, for a period, sandwiched between consistent, stable support for one device" is a hell of a lift for any console manufacturer every single time they have to do it, and the complexities of working to meet expectations for a more capable device aren't diminished. Playstations after the second are to this day mocked with memes about having no games, and this board hosts a discussion thread with doomerism about Xbox that would make even the most self-loathing Nintendrones blush. The Switch managed to pull this off by rehoming games no one bought on the Wii U while Nintendo's secondary device was the sub-HD 3DS, but these crutches don't exist for them in the transition from the Switch, an HD device with games that were already enjoyed by tens of millions.

A light back half to 2023 (which, under even the most doomer intepretations, would still be eons better than the sunsets for other Nintendo systems; third party games and substantial DLC for 10+ million sellers isn't nothing!), then, would not be ideal, but may be Nintendo's least bad option, if doing so enables them to have a stronger launch for a new system with a more solid backup plan to sell games to the Switch's install base.
 
andy and grubb: i haven't heard anything about Nintendo in june

Famiboards: "having a PTSD flashbacks"
 
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frog said:
Pokemon spinoffs on console have always been published by Nintendo and included in the software lineup once announced. Only the mobile games like Unite or the digital TCG are published by TPC themselves

Only the ones that are also on mobile or only on other platforms, which I suspect won't apply to Detective Pikachu 2...
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I have a feeling that If there is no direct, new hardware will be announced during the winter holidays. New hardware late 2023 early 2024...
 
People keep bringing up the Twitter announcements but when exactly they used Twitter drops aside from very specific cases like Ring Fit, Brain Training, Game Builder Garage (basically for new EPD releases just these from EPD4, which makes sense to not always have these in Directs), Small eShop releases, release date trailer announcements and of course COVID ala Mario Direct or Age of Calamity or Pikmin 3 Deluxe/Paper Mario announcements.

People are always going back to twitter drops, but I ask: When did they announced bigger games via Twitter drops? (That were not EPD4 games or not in COVID mode).
 
rickyson33 said:
not sure why anyone would be upset about there not being a direct since Robinson says Nintendo doesn't have any games anyways

you guys really wanna tune in that badly just to watch Pikmin get cancelled in real time?
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His definition of big games is apparently sales based, Prime 4 doesn't count cause "Metroid never sells 5 mil+"

Granted that makes 2d Mario, 3d mario and DK in an odd spot but
 
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I really think people are reading too heavily into the "lack of games."

Zelda is the biggest game they've released since Smash, they want all attention on it and only it, they'll reveal what else is releasing sometime later this year, after Pikmin 4 is out. We don't need a June direct for this, they can announce anything releasing in the September to October range in July or August and announce anything releasing in November as late as September or maybe even October. It's also not at all unprecedented for Nintendo to wait till right near release to announce something, they did that for every game in 2020 and just did that again for Prime remastered.

Not that it matters anyways as it's already a GOAT year with Zelda and the A Wonderful Life remake.
 
I don‘t believe in a Partners only direct though I could see them doing a Direct branded as a Mini, where they announce some summer titles (first and third party) and a teaser of a holiday title (2D Mario or Donkey Kong).
 
Ok am I just naive or is the talk of this relating to hardware ridiculous? Like the idea we're getting a console late this year despite basically zero reports besides chips when the "NX" had so much more buzz it just

I think Sep 2024 at the earliest, but maybe I'm naive
 
lexony said:
I don‘t believe in a Partners only direct though I could see them doing a Direct branded as a Mini, where they announce some summer titles (first and third party) and a teaser of a holiday title (2D Mario or Donkey Kong).
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They aren't announcing 2D Mario or DK in a Mini, which is shadowdropped.
 
Pokemaniac said:
Pokémon spin-offs are frequently published mainly by The Pokémon Company themselves rather than Nintendo.
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In Japan yes, but Nintendo is the publisher in the West.

Even then, Nintendo still lists Pokemon games as primary Nintendo titles in Japan, including:
  • Pokemon Sun & Moon
  • Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon
  • Detective Pikachu
  • Pokken Tournament DX
  • Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
  • Pokemon Sword & Shield
  • Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX
  • New Pokemon Snap
So why would Detective Pikachu 2 be different?
 
Johna X said:
Ok am I just naive or is the talk of this relating to hardware ridiculous? Like the idea we're getting a console late this year despite basically zero reports besides chips when the "NX" had so much more buzz it just

I think Sep 2024 at the earliest, but maybe I'm naive
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I mean a lot of people swore up and down it had to come alongside Zelda, nothing else made sense, and now look where we are.

New hardware would be cool, but it always feels like the hardware folks are a little too eager.
 
LukasManak22 said:
They aren't announcing 2D Mario or DK in a Mini, which is shadowdropped.
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Tbf the last partners mini wasn't shadow dropped, but it also likely only has the mini moniker cause of no first party content

That being said the "no big hitters second half" apparently uses a benchmark of >5 mil which Mario 100% hits, DK not a gurantee but almost imo but tbf maybe insiders doubt cause fsr people seem collectively unaware how good DKC has historically sold due to TF not doing great on Wii U and only 4 mil switch
 
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