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Pre-Release The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Pre-Release Discussion Thread

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I doubt there’s any great mystery to that shot. The game probably takes places at least two years after BotW. Link would’ve put the sword away at some point because things would’ve seemed safe for a while. Then at some other point in the opening of this game they learn of malice leaking from underground and go to investigate, which gets us to the 2019 teaser. Of course he would pick it back up for something that important.
 
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Yes, it has to be. It is curious that Link would return the sword and then go out of his way to pick it back up again, presumably just before he and Zelda head underground. That implies that they felt they'd need the sword—that they had a suspicion of what they'd find or at least felt they needed to act with caution. I wonder if there was a prior disturbance (or disturbances, plural) in Hyrule that prompted their investigation? That'd fit a bit better with Nintendo's description of the story as "unravel[ing] the truth behind this cataclysmic event," which I thought was odd given... well, we know exactly what happened? Ganondorf is back? Link and Zelda saw it with their own eyes? I'm sure they have a limited understanding of who or what they found, but the inciting event itself seemed obvious.
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I think it's a given that Link and Zelda go underground because they are investigating something bad is happening. They're not just randomly exploring and then happen to come across Ganondorf.

My guess is that the game will start with Link waking up on the sky islands. He goes about and gets his new abilities. The doors to that tower than open where he comes across that slab in the outdoor area. He communicates with Zelda and we get a flashback of the events that lead up him waking up on the sky islands.
 
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I think it's a given that Link and Zelda go underground because they are investigating something bad is happening. They're not just randomly exploring and then happen to come across Ganondorf.

My guess is that the game will start with Link waking up on the sky islands. He goes about and gets his new abilities. The doors to that tower than open where he comes across that slab in the outdoor area. He communicates with Zelda and we get a flashback of the events that lead up him waking up on the sky islands.
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I don't think the game starts in the sky and underground is a flashbacks. The initial reveal teaser shows more than that, Link helping Zelda to cross the bridge etc. Also the whole arm corrupt thing seems it will happen real time, as well as Zelda falling.
 
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I don't think the game starts in the sky and underground is a flashbacks. The initial reveal teaser shows more than that, Link helping Zelda to cross the bridge etc. Also the whole arm corrupt thing seems it will happen real time, as well as Zelda falling.
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My thinking is that Nintendo will want to emulate the BOTW cold opening again and throw you into the world as soon as possible. I don't think they want the game to start with a long cutscene. So they open the game with you playing in the world then give you a long cutscene showing the events leading up to the game once the player's are settled in.
 
HockeyBird said:
I think it's a given that Link and Zelda go underground because they are investigating something bad is happening. They're not just randomly exploring and then happen to come across Ganondorf.

My guess is that the game will start with Link waking up on the sky islands. He goes about and gets his new abilities. The doors to that tower than open where he comes across that slab in the outdoor area. He communicates with Zelda and we get a flashback of the events that lead up him waking up on the sky islands.
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I agree—they'll let you start playing ASAP and then set the table after the tutorial is complete—though I think the Master Sword scene may be a separate flashback that isn't played alongside the underground cutscene. Instead, it might play when the player investigates the disappearance of the Deku Tree. There may be a few scenes like this. Maybe those sandstorms over Gerudo Desert were there before Ganondorf is stirred—it'd explain why/how they set up a beacon over the bazaar. Whatever's going on with the Zora and Rito are a probably bit closer to the present, given the former's troubles seems to be directly tied to the appearance of the sky islands.
 
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My wife has ranted about how this game is playing with fire. It manages to successfully feel like an homage to Hayao Miyazaki’s works at times, something quite precious to her (and I’m sure many others). And at others, it’s a close relative to Looney Toons.

I see where she’s coming from. It’s beautiful and reverent one moment, and slapstick the next. I do wonder how the experience will actually land in practice. The concern is that it’ll feel a like a 100 hour comedy bit to the backdrop of Laputa and Mononoke.
 
Weird how there is no malice around Hyrule castle in that scene with Link charging the Talus.

The cover of the game also shows a malice whirlwind/twister over Hebra but the trailers show a wirlwind/twister without malice.

A bit confusing to say the least.
 
I'm not going to lie, if we wake up on the Sky Islands and have to relive what happened through memories again I'm going to be really dissapointed. It was cool for BOTW, but not again please.
 
HockeyBird said:
My thinking is that Nintendo will want to emulate the BOTW cold opening again and throw you into the world as soon as possible. I don't think they want the game to start with a long cutscene. So they open the game with you playing in the world then give you a long cutscene showing the events leading up to the game once the player's are settled in.
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I agree that they would want you to play asap but I would not dismiss yet that you explore underground with Zelda before it all goes down. Not anything long but decent enough to set the plot, destroy the hand and let Zelda fall. And then somehow Ganon takes Link into sky and he wakes up there. Website mentions that the adventure begins in the sky, but I don't think that's truly the case.
 
Awesomegames23 said:
Weird how there is no malice around Hyrule castle in that scene with Link charging the Talus.

The cover of the game also shows a malice whirlwind/twister over Hebra but the trailers show a wirlwind/twister without malice.

A bit confusing to say the least.
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Yeah it’s also something I noticed. Wonder what’s up with that. Every other shot we’ve seen or in the gameplay previews it had malice around it.
 
A cold open of gameplay, followed by a flashback filling the player in on how we got there is fine. Doesn’t mean link has to lose his memories or anything, which they obviously shouldn’t do for a second time.
 
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Yeah it’s also something I noticed. Wonder what’s up with that. Every other shot we’ve seen or in the gameplay previews it had malice around it.
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Maybe it's related to the blood moon? Maybe when you're furthest away from a blood moon, there is no malice around the castle, and the amount of malice coming out of the castle correlates to the number of days you are away from a blood moon, so if a blood moon is about to approach then there could be a ton of malice coming from the castle. Not a bad idea if true, because Hyrule castle can nearly be seen from anywhere in the game since it's at the center of the map, so it would act as a giant visual queue.
 
SirShorse said:
I'm not going to lie, if we wake up on the Sky Islands and have to relive what happened through memories again I'm going to be really dissapointed. It was cool for BOTW, but not again please.
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That would be incredibly disappointing. The memories did very little for me. I hope they don't go that route again.
 
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I'm not going to lie, if we wake up on the Sky Islands and have to relive what happened through memories again I'm going to be really dissapointed. It was cool for BOTW, but not again please.
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I'm thinking that's a guarantee at this point.

Edit: Not the reliving part, but the story being told in flashbacks
 
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I mean the memory thing there would not really work, it's not like it was in the past or he forgotten about it. He knows Ganon kicked him and destroyed his hand so why use it as memory again?
 
A 10 minutes long opening cutscene not only could set up the context of the game amazingly, but I think it also would be very well received by the players. I mean, what we don't want is a 2-hours tutorial like SS or TP. A cool cinematic, well directed and with good music followed by the Great Sky Island?I'm all for it.
 
korok said:
A 10 minutes long opening cutscene not only could set up the context of the game amazingly, but I think it also would be very well received by the players. I mean, what we don't want is a 2-hours tutorial like SS or TP. A cool cinematic, well directed and with good music followed by the Great Sky Island?I'm all for it.
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Yes, if anything I don't think it's a memory thing. Link investigating with Zelda, the arm, appearance of Ganon, Zelda falling. That is little bit too much for "oh you know, this is memory what happened". When Link clearly knows what happened when he also has a broken Master Sword that Ganon destroyed.
 
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Even though I won't rule out flashbacks, I think this game will have more present day story than people think (i.e. way more than BotW), BUT also way less than people who prefer heavy story/cinematic games would want.
 
Recycling the amnesia premise would be tedious. Using a few flashbacks to establish continuity and exploring what happened in the deep past is fine, and the latter could be potentially interested depending on the framing. Tie it into the archeology theme that seems to be present across the game and its marketing materials (Zelda's own interest in the field, the Zonai murals and artifiacts, the story beginning with an expedition into a long forgotten temple) and you'd have me. It need not be—nor do I expect it to be—the exclusive form of cutscene. But I'd like it as a way to put more of Zelda's own character into the story/her scenes in the past or however they end up working, and play off how the experience of playing BotW is a bit like undertaking an archeologist's survey as well.
 
Don’t know if this is even save to post in this thread will delete if not but this just popped on Reddit.



Seems like the pictures were deleted from Reddit. But there’s a link to the original 4 chan source.
 
HockeyBird said:
I can see Nintendo making the DLC for this game more substantial than what they did for BOTW. More along the lines of the Xenoblade or Splatoon story expansions. Assuming that the next 3D Zelda is years and years away, I think an expansion for Tears of the Kingdom would help tie people over.
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with that supposed leak about Pokemon DLC coming with visual upgrades for Drake, I wouldn't be shocked if they timed Zelda DLC with Drake as well in order to give people a reason to jump in with the game on a new system
 
What I'm hoping for is a disjointed montage of images like the 2019 trailer for about 60 seconds before Link wakes up and the player gets control.

The scenes with Zelda and Link in the cave don't need explanation or expansion. They were looking for the source of malice, that's it.This series is at its best when it's mysterious imo.
 
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With all due respect I don't get how someone can even analyze this game today. Like a video popped here "20 things you might have missed" when someone was once again analyzing Hyrule from previews footage. With being so close to release it does not make much sense for me to look at these things. Last time it made sense was final trailer month before launch.
 
Yeah think it might be time to start up a leak thread. Might still be a bit early but better safe than sorry

I can do that unless anyone else is dying to?
 
Can't wait to go on YouTube for an entirely unrelated reason and get recommended videos with huge spoilers in the thumbnails and titles.
 
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TotK non-spoiler starter pack by LukasManak22

- don't open Twitter, the most obvious one. You can block words whatever but it can just be image or another words. Twitter will be full of leaks.

- don't open YouTube. Same as Twitter, full of leaks, thumbnails with bosses etc. Absolutely no go.

- don't open Famiboards. Sad to say this, but you need to be absolutely safe. You are waiting years for this one, anyone can spoil you in any thread. You need to be absolutely bulletproof. You can briefly go into the ST on May 12, scroll all the way down, post your copy and wish everyone a great experience. Then go away imediately.

Last but not least, Aonuma will protect you from leaks. He knows you are a good person.
 
IF REAL there's something on that CE box that I'd consider a story spoiler (in case anyone is looking for those images).
 
LukasManak22 said:
TotK non-spoiler starter pack by LukasManak22

- don't open Twitter, the most obvious one. You can block words whatever but it can just be image or another words. Twitter will be full of leaks.

- don't open YouTube. Same as Twitter, full of leaks, thumbnails with bosses etc. Absolutely no go.

- don't open Famiboards. Sad to say this, but you need to be absolutely safe. You are waiting years for this one, anyone can spoil you in any thread. You need to be absolutely bulletproof.

Last but not least, Aonuma will protect you from leaks. He knows you are a good person.
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Yeah, it's possible that someone tries to just Yolo an account and post spoiler photos everywhere. I wonder if Xenforo can get a feature that makes it so you need a minimum number of posts to post in some threads, not trying to gatekeep.
 
korok said:
A 10 minutes long opening cutscene not only could set up the context of the game amazingly, but I think it also would be very well received by the players. I mean, what we don't want is a 2-hours tutorial like SS or TP. A cool cinematic, well directed and with good music followed by the Great Sky Island?I'm all for it.
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I absolutely do not want to start with a 10-minute cutscene

I think we probably do start with basically a cold open and the cutscene explaining how you got to where you are happens at the end of the tutorial section. I don't imagine they'll fully replicate the memories per se but I wouldn't be too surprised with the story mainly being told through a similar plot device
 
LukasManak22 said:
TotK non-spoiler starter pack by LukasManak22

- don't open Twitter, the most obvious one. You can block words whatever but it can just be image or another words. Twitter will be full of leaks.

- don't open YouTube. Same as Twitter, full of leaks, thumbnails with bosses etc. Absolutely no go.

- don't open Famiboards. Sad to say this, but you need to be absolutely safe. You are waiting years for this one, anyone can spoil you in any thread. You need to be absolutely bulletproof.

Last but not least, Aonuma will protect you from leaks. He knows you are a good person.
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silently hides copy of leaked artbook behind me
 
Awesomegames23 said:
Yeah, it's possible that someone tries to just Yolo an account and post spoiler photos everywhere. I wonder if Xenforo can get a feature that makes it so you need a minimum number of posts to post in some threads, not trying to gatekeep.
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Yeah, as much as mods can try anyone can spoil very quickly. Not sure if Xenforo can do that, but am sure something like that is possible. But we are 13 days away now, I feel like I can made this. People are already starting to talk about CE leak with some images, which I still have not looked but I expect people to talk about it here. So at this point I might go away soon, it's not like haha he will be back, we are literally so close now that I don't want to know anything.
 
Seems like it is really close to open floodgates now :( man that will take some mad willpower for me to not take a peek. I’d be ok with seeing some more footage, even from I side a dungeon or boss. But I don’t want to see any cutscenes, story spoilers, endgame and gear etc. So not looking at all might be better. 13 days is a long time :(
 
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Yeah, as much as mods can try anyone can spoil very quickly. Not sure if Xenforo can do that, but am sure something like that is possible. But we are 13 days away now, I feel like I can made this. People are already starting to talk about CE leak with some images, which I still have not looked but I expect people to talk about it here. So at this point I might go away soon, it's not like haha he will be back, we are literally so close now that I don't want to know anything.
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Yep not hard to stay away for like 12 or 13 days but I'm going to wait until leaks appear beyond that 1 photo before I log off for a while.
 
I will miss being there during the peak just day or hours before launch but I know it's impossible, at that time spoilers will be literally everywhere. Don't want to ruin my experience.
 
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