LPDDR4 was already been used in smartphones for almost 2 years (here and here) by the time the Nintendo Switch launched.
As of now, LPDDR5X-8400 has only been used on smartphones for only a little more than three months. (The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2's the first SoC from Qualcomm that supports LPDDR5X.)
And as of now, LPDDR5X-7500 has only been used in smartphones for a little over a year.
The OG switch stuff about the device physicality leaked 3 months after the GDC conference that happened in 2016.If what he's heard is confidential having heard it is confidential. I don't think there's any room for argument about what the people he's spoken to would want.
Personally, I think the silence speaks volumes. If new hardware were coming FY 2024 I imagine something would've slipped through the cracks after GDC.
OreXda has now indirectly confirmed to not have reliable "sources" when Nintendo's concerned.
I agree most of this except the secrecy part.The OG switch stuff about the device physicality leaked 3 months after the GDC conference that happened in 2016.
And we got the clock leaks 3 months before the system was out.
GDC has basically just concluded.
I think people need to consider a few things these days vs the days of yore.
Assume that a few studios do in fact know of developer kits and of a timing, if they speak it so soon after that opens the change pretty liable for who would leak it. Nintendo is also at GDC if I’m not mistaken. Spilling the beans of a secret product, the secret of the one who gave it to you, to the press makes finding information pretty “easy” for someone like Nintendo.
Second, the times aren’t so great right now, and companies are downsizing their workforces across the gaming industry. Hell, people are applying to lots of jobs and it’s more difficult these days than say, 2016. I think people are less inclined to actually risk their livelihood for internet points of a secret product or maybe put others (company) at risk in a way.
Third to last, and this relates to the first one really, but with how Mochizuki outed a studio, it changes the game a lot. Anonymity is key in these, and even playing a game of telephone would make reporters less inclined to really want to take it for its worth.
They want a scoop, not a “maybe it was this, perhaps it was that”. It would have to be a really solid scoop.
I mentioned before how the switch stuff leaked like 3 months after the GDC? So, in an ideal scenario, the moment of leaking would be best when there are more developer kits in the wild to which they have less to worry about. You have a harder time pinpointing things if the net is spread too far. As time goes, more kits reach the wild.
Nintendo is the most secretive of the three companies, lest not forget that.
If you were to chart them in secrecy, it would be:
1. Nintendo
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13. Sony
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47. Netflix
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53. Microsoft their game codenames leak before they even have a drawing on a board
LPDDR4 was already been used in smartphones for almost 2 years (here and here) by the time the Nintendo Switch launched.
As of now, LPDDR5X-8400 has only been used on smartphones for only a little more than three months. (The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2's the first SoC from Qualcomm that supports LPDDR5X.)
And as of now, LPDDR5X-7500 has only been used in smartphones for a little over a year.
DLSS HLE via FSR is going to be one of the first things that will be attempted once they get that far. It's not really going to matter unless games start doing non-DLSS workloads on them, and even then, it should be fairly simple to deal with on Nvidia GPUs (other vendors will depend on how well their accelerators match up).Emulating tensor cores and FDE would be difficult, methinks
I feel like GDC has been granted undue significance in terms of leaks. The ingredients are there to potentially produce them, but I don't think the history of the event really justifies the idea that a lack of leak afterwards (especially this soon) is especially meaningful.If what he's heard is confidential having heard it is confidential. I don't think there's any room for argument about what the people he's spoken to would want.
Personally, I think the silence speaks volumes. If new hardware were coming FY 2024 I imagine something would've slipped through the cracks after GDC.
OreXda has now indirectly confirmed to not have reliable "sources" when Nintendo's concerned.
Aaaand they knew nothing about Drake.They just now heard about devkits?
My god they're like the Internet Explorer of insiders
LPDDR4 was already in products for a couple years when the switch came out (like the Shield TV). LPDDR5X will be very recently in products.
LPDDR4 was already been used in smartphones for almost 2 years (here and here) by the time the Nintendo Switch launched.
As of now, LPDDR5X-8400 has only been used on smartphones for only a little more than three months. (The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2's the first SoC from Qualcomm that supports LPDDR5X.)
And as of now, LPDDR5X-7500 has only been used in smartphones for a little over a year.
Different audience.That didn't stop Xbox Series X launching and selling with no next gen exclusives for months on end. The biggest Xbox "thing" so far this year is Rally Adventure, an expansion pack for a 2021 game that still supports the base Xbox One.
Different audience.
Xbox and PlayStation cater to the "casual adult", who has the money to just buy the new thing because its the new thing. The same people who buy the new iPhone even though their old one works fine.
Nintendo's audience is "casual family", who are not predisposed to buying the new thing for the sake of it. Parents need to be able to see that the new system is actually worth spending money on, and if it doesn't have any games that aren't also available on the Switch they already own, then they're not going to drop $400 on it.
Yeah, I fully expect cross-generation games, but I was responding to the ridiculous notion that none of Nintendo's first-party games would be exclusive to the new system.
Equally, I expect many games that could easily run on the Switch to just inexplicably be exclusive to [REDACTED]. Nintendo just does things like that. The next 2D Mario runs on Switch, but then the next 2D Zelda doesn't - or something.
First two years maximum. Nintendo have been good with managing stock of hardware while the competition have struggled - I don't expect it to be too difficult to get hold of one when it releases. Though yeah, for a while, it's mainly the core audience.To be honest probably in the first few years of Switch 2's existence, most of us enthusiast gamers (and scalpers) will be the only ones able to even find the new system for purchase. By the time supply catches up with demand, Nintendo should have a host of new games slated for release. (on top of Next-gen graphics and performance patches for current popular Switch games that would be good showcase pieces.)
We arent in the 2000s imo, and even kids (or their parents) buy the new iPhone every year.Different audience.
Xbox and PlayStation cater to the "casual adult", who has the money to just buy the new thing because its the new thing. The same people who buy the new iPhone even though their old one works fine.
Nintendo's audience is "casual family", who are not predisposed to buying the new thing for the sake of it. Parents need to be able to see that the new system is actually worth spending money on, and if it doesn't have any games that aren't also available on the Switch they already own, then they're not going to drop $400 on it.
Yeah, I fully expect cross-generation games, but I was responding to the ridiculous notion that none of Nintendo's first-party games would be exclusive to the new system.
Equally, I expect many games that could easily run on the Switch to just inexplicably be exclusive to [REDACTED]. Nintendo just does things like that. The next 2D Mario runs on Switch, but then the next 2D Zelda doesn't - or something.
All that you've just said is that you are a member of the audience that I described.We arent in the 2000s imo, and even kids (or their parents) buy the new iPhone every year.
???All that you've just said is that you are a member of the audience that I described.
It might be hard for you to imagine, but not everyone is like you or the people you know.
You could, yeah, but there's factual, historical evidence to confirm that Nintendo's primary audience are not just automatically willing to buy a successor to a system they own without enough reason to persuade them to. You can't just refute that with biased, tangential nonsense.???
I could say exactly the same about you and your friends <3
We arent in the 2000s imo, and even kids (or their parents) buy the new iPhone every year.
We arent in the 2000s imo, and even kids (or their parents) buy the new iPhone every year.
I guess that the above was referring to my previous post? What I wrote was that Nintendo may not release any Drake exclusives for certain family-friendly or -oriented franchises (e.g., Mario, Pokemon, AC, and Kirby) until a Drake-equipped Lite is out. Note that I did not include the Zelda, Xenoblade, or FE series. What's more, the current Lite model was released two years after the OG Switch; should that pattern repeats, the cross-gen period would conclude in two years (when the Drake Lite's ready), which isn't that long on the macro level. Not trying to change your mind or anyone else's though, just clarifying my point.Yeah, I fully expect cross-generation games, but I was responding to the ridiculous notion that none of Nintendo's first-party games would be exclusive to the new system.
Could use a Nate frie-nda alley oop sometime soon
I wouldn't call it bad luck here though considering it's very likely that a successor is right around the cornerI'm going to buy the oled edition of zelda, so knowing my bad luck, they're going to announce the 2 soon.
So what, would they really want to launch a new system without an exclusive Mario game? After 6+ years since the last one? I get that BotW wasn't a Switch exclusive, but nobody owned a Wii U. Conversely, enough people own a Switch that it would be incredibly likely that people would just buy (or pirate) the Switch version instead of buying the new console.I guess that the above was referring to my previous post? What I wrote was that Nintendo may not release any Drake exclusives for certain family-friendly or -oriented franchises (e.g., Mario, Pokemon, AC, and Kirby) until a Drake-equipped Lite is out. Note that I did not include the Zelda, Xenoblade, or FE series. What's more, the current Lite model was released two years after the OG Switch; should that pattern repeats, the cross-gen period would conclude in two years (when the Drake Lite's ready), which isn't that long on the macro level. Not trying to change your mind or anyone else's though, just clarifying my point.
Indeed , a strange choice to make imo.I wouldn't call it bad luck here though considering it's very likely that a successor is right around the corner
If spiting you is what it takes for them to announce it, then I'd implore you to take the sacrifice. For the greater good!I'm going to buy the oled edition of zelda, so knowing my bad luck, they're going to announce the 2 soon.
Yes, taking one for the team is appreciatedIf spiting you is what it takes for them to announce it, then I'd emplore you to take the sacrifice. For the greater good!
Thanks for your sacrifice !I'm going to buy the oled edition of zelda, so knowing my bad luck, they're going to announce the 2 soon.
Spend your dough man.I'm going to buy the oled edition of zelda, so knowing my bad luck, they're going to announce the 2 soon.
It's not just their games: https://www.windowscentral.com/soft...ows-corepc-modern-platform-hudson-valley-202453. Microsoft their game codenames leak before they even have a drawing on a board
Does it count as a sacrifice if i preordered the TotK Pro Controller despite owning a perfectly functionable Launch Pro and the nifty MH Rise one?
I've taken a gamble on an OLED and got some raffle tickets for one that's being drawn in 8 hours. At this late stage I don't want to buy one but if I win one I can justify it. So you watch, I will win it later and then drake will get announced next month.
To my knowledge, no.Do we know with some level of certainty that devkits for new Switch hardware are currently in the hands of some 3rd parties?
Do we know with some level of certainty that devkits for new Switch hardware are currently in the hands of some 3rd parties?
Maybe we could stop pretending not to know that Nintendo's problem isn't emulation but piracy. We know perfectly well that there are people who don't always buy the switch games they play.Yes, Their is a thing that Nintendo hates more than leaks and that's emulation.
I'm going to buy the oled edition of zelda, so knowing my bad luck, they're going to announce the 2 soon.
There's not hard reason for timelines to be similar. Switch came out when it did was a coincidence. The dram roadmap isn't that secret, if they wanted lpddr5x, they would get it, doesn't matter how other companies feel about itSo the timeframe would be exactly the same assuming the Switch 2 launches Q4 2024?
Different audience.
Xbox and PlayStation cater to the "casual adult", who has the money to just buy the new thing because its the new thing. The same people who buy the new iPhone even though their old one works fine.
Nintendo's audience is "casual family", who are not predisposed to buying the new thing for the sake of it. Parents need to be able to see that the new system is actually worth spending money on, and if it doesn't have any games that aren't also available on the Switch they already own, then they're not going to drop $400 on it.
Yeah, I fully expect cross-generation games, but I was responding to the ridiculous notion that none of Nintendo's first-party games would be exclusive to the new system.
Equally, I expect many games that could easily run on the Switch to just inexplicably be exclusive to [REDACTED]. Nintendo just does things like that. The next 2D Mario runs on Switch, but then the next 2D Zelda doesn't - or something.
we also note the Parties’ submission above that the actual distribution of gamers by age on the Switch is not very different to Xbox or PlayStation
I didn't say it had anything to do with age, though.While I fully expect a combination of cross-gen and exclusive titles for [redacted], including an exclusive Mario, I don't think there's any evidence to support the claim that buying patterns of Switch owners is significantly different to that of Playstation or Xbox owners. The UK's Competition and Markets Authority, in their provisional findings on the Microsoft/Activision acquisition, stated in section 7.71 that:
This is based on confidential information provided by Microsoft, who obviously should know their own demographics, and are also the publisher of the most popular third-party title on Switch, so probably have a very good idea of Nintendo's as well. This is consistent with Nintendo's own reporting on Switch demographics, which they last showed in November 2021:
There's a popular conception that Nintendo's audience is much more heavily weighted towards families and children than Microsoft's or Sony's, but I don't think there's actual evidence to that effect. In particular, I believe people (a) massively underestimate the number of grown-ass adults who play and enjoy Mario games and (b) massively underestimate the number of Playstations and Xboxes which are bought by parents so their kids can play FIFA/COD/etc.
Why do you find that strange? They were lax on leaks towards the end of the Wii U because it was free marketing and built anticipation at a time when they simply couldn't afford to create a huge marketing campaign.It ain't happening, unless Nintendo clamped down harder on leaks which I find strange
I think... there's a reason you're not a hardware designer, no offenseWhat did you guys think about it?
And we saw the PS3 horrible first years, PS Vita barely outselling the Wii U and then there's the XB1.We saw the Wii U flop even though the Wii was a runaway success. The 3DS struggled to make much of a splash for a while even though it was literally just a DS but better. Before that, the N64 sold miserably compared to the PS1, even though the SNES was the most popular platform of its generation.