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Pre-Release The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Pre-Release Discussion Thread

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Well, yeah I do agree that the we are in a drought, still I‘m still confident on the Game, who knows? Maybe they are doing a Surprise Direct next Week, it’s Nintendo and they are so hard to predict as of lately.
 
I can understand wanting Metroid Dread levels of marketing.

But that game needed it. And this one doesn’t. All and all tho, you’ll find out what you want to find out before it releases. But I get wanting to be “excited” for the road to release.
 
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Well, yeah I do agree that the we are in a drought, still I‘m still confident on the Game, who knows? Maybe they are doing a Surprise Direct next Week, it’s Nintendo and they are so hard to predict as of lately.
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I think we will see a Zelda amiibo and a Bosbokoblin soon, maybe revealed in their next showing. I might be wrong of course, but I think we will see them appear soon.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo doesn't start any real marketing game until at least 2-3 weeks after the Mario movie releases. Nintendo seems like they want fans to ONLY focus on that movie and nothing else. Apparently you can't market both a movie and a video game in the same time frame...
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo doesn't start any real marketing game until at least 2-3 weeks after the Mario movie releases. Nintendo seems like they want fans to ONLY focus on that movie and nothing else. Apparently you can't market both a movie and a video game in the same time frame...
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Of course they can do that and market a Game and a Movie at the same Time.

Isn’t Universal Pictures and Illumination doing the most part of the Marketing of the Movie, so that Nintendo can still promote their Games… or am I wrong?
 
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Of course they can do that and market a Game and a Movie at the same Time, because i think Universal Pictures and Illumination are doing the most part of the Marketing of the Movie, so Nintendo can still promote their Games… or am I wrong?
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They can but I don't think they WANT to. I think they want Nintendo fans only focusing on the Mario movie which is why Zelda still hasn't gotten any real marketing. They want fans only excited to go see the Mario movie.
 
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They can but I don't think they WANT to. I think they want Nintendo fans only focusing on the Mario movie which is why Zelda still hasn't gotten any real marketing. They want fans only excited to go see the Mario movie.
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I really don’t think that is the reason why Zelda hasn’t got a real Marketing tbh… vould be but I doubt it… like I said Universal and Illumination are doing als a good part for the Marketing of the Movie…
 
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Decoyman said:
Marketing this next week is gonna be full focus on Bayonetta Origins.

I think we can expect Zelda to ramp up more after that.
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If anything I think this is why we aren't seeing much Zelda yet, more than the movie being the reason. Marketing for Zelda is gonna completely overshadow every other game (except maybe Silksong whenever that pops up) and Nintendo does tend to try and keep from robbing spotlight from their smaller games.
 
I keep seeing this "Mario Movie" argument. Why? One is a movie, one is a video game. People can do more than one thing at once.

And did not another game with a similar situation to Zelda come out just a few months ago? Something about some God that deals with issues of War? That game also received very little marketing until the final months and look at that, it received the exact same score on Metacritic.

It also sold 11 Million units in 3 months.
 
I based my thinking on Nintendo’s Twitter banner.

It’s Bayontta Origin. So expect nothing until after it releases and then a little time after that. 🫡
 
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I keep seeing this "Mario Movie" argument. Why? One is a movie, one is a video game. People can do more than one thing at once.

And did not another game with a similar situation to Zelda come out just a few months ago? Something about some God that deals with issues of War? That game also received very little marketing until the final months and look at that, it received the exact same score on Metacritic.

It also sold 11 Million units in 3 months.
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It honestly just seems like a very Nintendo thing to do. I mean at this point it's anyone's guess as to why Nintendo is still not showing this game but time is definitely running out between now and release. I'm guessing April for marketing to finally kick in but that still feels to little to late but that's just my opinion.
 
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Dead honest--I have seen minimum 10x more ads for Metroid Prime than Zelda. I have never seen one on Youtube and watch Youtube for hours every day at work. Never seen one plastered on a website, or even in the top left corner of Youtube on the home page. Given how much I talk about Metroid Prime, makes it a little creepy that my ads are 90% MPR...
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This is how Nintendo has always worked, though. Like I'm sure there's some weird example of Nintendo doing Youtube ads months in advance for a game, but to my knowledge, even if they might have the ads already made, they advertise stuff way more when they're already out or are out soon.
 
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Recently I've been filtering images of the sky for hidden islands, and just marveling at how much is really there. It's become kind of an obsession to be honest.

Just when you think you've seen it all there's always more in the horizon when you adjust the image in the right way. I think I should compile all of the different islands into one large picture just for fun.

Also because there are many who still underestimate what the Zelda team has been working on for 6 years (Hint: it becomes obvious when you see it all 😁).

EDIT: I should ask though, I've been able to identify a lot of the islands from the leaks, should I post a non-spoiler version here, and then another one in the other thread discussing those leaked islands, or do you not think that would be worth it / interesting?
 
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I feel like when people talk about marketing it's just that they want a definitive trailer that shows a bit more about the game, not that there needs to be something posted new on twitter every day and ads being run constantly.
 
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Recently I've been filtering images of the sky for hidden islands, and just marveling at how much is really there. It's become kind of an obsession to be honest.

Just when you think you've seen it all there's always more in the horizon when you adjust the image in the right way. I think I should compile all of the different islands into one large picture just for fun.

Also because there are many who still underestimate what the Zelda team has been working on for 6 years (Hint: it becomes obvious when you see it all 😁).

EDIT: I should ask though, I've been able to identify a lot of the islands from the leaks, should I post a non-spoiler version here, and then another one in the other thread discussing those leaked islands, or do you not think that would be worth it / interesting?
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Yes to both, really eager to see your findings!

I've been saying for a long time that people have been really underestimating the sky islands' potential
 
NewPueblo said:
Recently I've been filtering images of the sky for hidden islands, and just marveling at how much is really there. It's become kind of an obsession to be honest.

Just when you think you've seen it all there's always more in the horizon when you adjust the image in the right way. I think I should compile all of the different islands into one large picture just for fun.

Also because there are many who still underestimate what the Zelda team has been working on for 6 years (Hint: it becomes obvious when you see it all 😁).

EDIT: I should ask though, I've been able to identify a lot of the islands from the leaks, should I post a non-spoiler version here, and then another one in the other thread discussing those leaked islands, or do you not think that would be worth it / interesting?
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I've been doing the same thing, when you really stare at the screen shots from the trailers for awhile you notice all kinds of cool islands that I hadn't noticed before. It's what I think a lot of people might be underestimating with the sky island, the shapes and scale of magnitude of what's on them, will act as the equivalent of "What's that over there," feeling from BotW. Like this one I just noticed while watching the trailer again, it almost looks like it's melting, or has an elevator going up to it. It's probably just low quality imagery, but they seem to be prevalent throughout the trailers when you specifically look for them. So if you have good quality images from the trailers, post away please. If you mark locations possibly figured out from the Art Book leak they should definitely go in the other thread.

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I am still beyond excited for the game. I want that big 2017-like trailer just for the feels. Not to convince me to be interested or to buy this game.



@ Sky Islands: I am still prepared that these are mainly shrine equivalents. Some of the shrines were huge as well and some floating islands have weird, unnatural shapes (which hint more at elaborated puzzle formations than anything else, imo).

My hope is that there is an even bigger, more unique land mass (sky loft) so high up in the sky that we haven't seen it yet.
And a diverse underground.
 
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Even if TotK is not at PAX I still believe they will show it after Bayo and before March ends. Why?

The first delay of Zelda U was announced on March 27th 2015.

The delay of TotK was announced on March 29th 2022.

Of course the game will not be delayed but Nintendo always wants to have info before the fiscal year ends (March 31st). I know, there's a difference between "our major game will be delayed" that is definitely something you want to apply before the fiscal year ends for investors but I think this also applies to more information about the game, you want to share at least something from the game before fiscal year ends to boost your confidence in it. Late March is always a time when the stars allign for a Zelda fans (well not in a good way in the last few years).
 
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Even if TotK is not at PAX I still believe they will show it after Bayo and before March ends. Why?

The first delay of Zelda U was announced on March 27th 2015.

The delay of TotK was announced on March 29th 2022.

Of course the game will not be delayed but Nintendo always wants to have info before the fiscal year ends (March 31st). I know, there's a difference between "our major game will be delayed" that is definitely something you want to apply before the fiscal year ends for investors but I think this also applies to more information about the game, you want to share at least something from the game before fiscal year ends to boost your confidence in it. Late March is always a time when the stars allign for a Zelda fans (well not in a good way in the last few years).
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If you now jinxed it, i will send you a pair of socks that are too small for you!

;]

Bring on the TotK Direct/Trailer/Treehouse within the next two weeks.
 
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If you now jinxed it, i will send you a pair of socks that are too small for you!

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Bring on the TotK Direct/Trailer/Treehouse within the next two weeks.
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It would be classic Nintendo move to do Treehouse after PAX so they can have media coverage on their own, think of like Tuesday March 28th.
 
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So we are now in the "marketing sucks, the game will be bad" cycle?
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Yes we are!

LukasManak22 said:
Even if TotK is not at PAX I still believe they will show it after Bayo and before March ends. Why?

The first delay of Zelda U was announced on March 27th 2015.

The delay of TotK was announced on March 29th 2022.

Of course the game will not be delayed but Nintendo always wants to have info before the fiscal year ends (March 31st). I know, there's a difference between "our major game will be delayed" that is definitely something you want to apply before the fiscal year ends for investors but I think this also applies to more information about the game, you want to share at least something from the game before fiscal year ends to boost your confidence in it. Late March is always a time when the stars allign for a Zelda fans (well not in a good way in the last few years).
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I hope you are right!
 
For me, the marketing is bad not just because the secretism, which can be understandable, but because the teasers/trailers are pretty bad, specially the last ones. I love every single trailer of Breath of the Wild, but I can not say the same about Tears of the Kingdom. To this day, I think the presentation teaser is still the best of the four.

And while keeping the game close to their chest may be a good idea, there is a difference between that and having so many people believe that it looks like a DLC.

Zelda is my favorite saga and the game will be amazing for sure. But I don't like the marketing and nothing will change that. It has been almost 4 years of nothing.
 
This is the timeline we should expect leading up to release:

This week is Bayonetta reviews and launch time.

Next week marketing for Advance Wars will start with an overview trailer (a month from release like always) and maybe even new trailer.

The week after that it's Everybody's 1-2 Switch announcement time for a release in early June.

The first week of April is obviously kick-off time for the Mario movie.

The two weeks after that are reserved for previews and reviews for Advance Wars.

In the last week of April the Tears of the Kingdom Expansion Pass will be announced (it got announced for BotW two weeks before release).

The first week of May will blow the lid open on everything Everything 1-2 Switch with an all-new overview trailer.

And then it's finally time! The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom will release on May 12th.
 
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This is the timeline we should expect leading up to release:

This week is Bayonetta reviews and launch time.

Next week marketing for Advance Wars will start with an overview trailer (a month from release like always) and maybe even new trailer.

The week after that it's Everybody's 1-2 Switch announcement time for a release in early June.

The first week of April is obviously kick-off time for the Mario movie.

The two weeks after that are reserved for previews and reviews for Advance Wars.

In the last week of April the Tears of the Kingdom Expansion Pass will be announced (it got announced for BotW two weeks before release).

The first week of May will blow the lid open on everything Everything 1-2 Switch with an all-new overview trailer.

And then it's finally time! The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom will release on May 12th.
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That would be the worst Timeline ever...
 
thankfully i missed all the pessimism because i didn't check the thread at all over the weekend.

Are people really going to be truly bothered if Zelda isn't playable? For the people who want it (i dont), I would go in fully expecting she wont be playable (as history suggest) and be pleasantly surprised if she is.
 
Nobody is announcing Everuone 1 2 switch 2 months before release. They don’t want that garbage to be announced so long ahead.
 
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Oh wait, for a while I forgot to remind everyone that this game is NEVER COMING OUT!!1

There ya go xoxo

seriously though, the game is gonna be fine, but zelda fans have had it rough

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all the trailers suck and make the game look mid
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Watched so much AI generated videos of Trump, Biden and Obama making gaming tier lists that I can only read this in Trump's voice - "so mid, Joe, so very very mid". xD
 
The doom and gloom postings are a little bit funny to me.
I get that the TotK trailers are not as exciting for some. For me they are not as good as BotW's as well.
But I am not worried that I will not have fun with this game.
It is the direct sequel to Breath of the wild...it will not go completely wrong.


I have three examples of games I am/was excited too, where the outcome is much more uncertain.
1) Beyond Good and Evil 2. Being a sequel, they seem to deviate from almost everything the first game was about and loved for.
2) Everwild. We have seen concept trailers and heard them talk a little bit about it. But we still have no idea at all how this game will play.
3) Starfield. I am sure it will be filled with interesting content but it might be a buggy, technical mess.


Nothing of that sort applies to TotK. We have seen enough that it is clear it will feel familiar to BotW, one of the best games in history.
We have seen some new gameplay concepts (sky diving, reverse kinetic ability, crafting,...) that show that it will also play differently in some aspects.
And it is Nintendo and the Zelda Team. BotW launched in a surprisingly bugfree state for such a big open world with several physic systems.
I am more than confident that TotK will do the same.


So, the worst case scenario seems to be that it will just feel like DLC.
More of the same of my favorite game of all time? Sounds like a good baseline.
If it is just that it might be a dissapointment on a high level (for me as well) but I will still enjoy it a lot, I am sure.
New enemies, bosses, environments, abilities, puzzles,... it will all be in there.
Why should this game fail to deliver a good gaming experience? I don't get the concerns.
 
The fact that we're less than two months away from release plus what i've seen from the leaks are finally making me hyped for this game. There's a new Zelda game right around the corner and in the end, that's all that matters. The lackluster marketing bothers me, i would probably be even more hyped if they had shown something more substantial, but in the end it will probably become just a footnote when we look back to this game's trajectory in the future.
 
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The fact that we're less than two months away from release plus what i've seen from the leaks are finally making me hyped for this game. There's a new Zelda game right around the corner and in the end, that's all that matters. The lackluster marketing bothers me, i would probably be even more hyped if they had shown something more substantial, but in the end it will probably become just a footnote when we look back to this game's trajectory in the future.
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In the end it won’t matter. It does suck (a little) now.
 
It does not suck at all for me because we know something is coming very soon. It was more annoying in 2022 or even early 2023, because we knew nothing would come for a while. But at the latest we know we'll get something in early April, and then we'll get previews, then tv ads and reviews and then it's out.

The time for whining was so long ago. Years of almost nothing but crumbs. We're actually in the fun times now, it could come any day. Why spend it in this thread being all gloomy?
 
Horror Kid said:
The doom and gloom postings are a little bit funny to me.
I get that the TotK trailers are not as exciting for some. For me they are not as good as BotW's as well.
But I am not worried that I will not have fun with this game.
It is the direct sequel to Breath of the wild...it will not go completely wrong.


I have three examples of games I am/was excited too, where the outcome is much more uncertain.
1) Beyond Good and Evil 2. Being a sequel, they seem to deviate from almost everything the first game was about and loved for.
2) Everwild. We have seen concept trailers and heard them talk a little bit about it. But we still have no idea at all how this game will play.
3) Starfield. I am sure it will be filled with interesting content but it might be a buggy, technical mess.


Nothing of that sort applies to TotK. We have seen enough that it is clear it will feel familiar to BotW, one of the best games in history.
We have seen some new gameplay concepts (sky diving, reverse kinetic ability, crafting,...) that show that it will also play differently in some aspects.
And it is Nintendo and the Zelda Team. BotW launched in a surprisingly bugfree state for such a big open world with several physic systems.
I am more than confident that TotK will do the same.


So, the worst case scenario seems to be that it will just feel like DLC.
More of the same of my favorite game of all time? Sounds like a good baseline.
If it is just that it might be a dissapointment on a high level (for me as well) but I will still enjoy it a lot, I am sure.
New enemies, bosses, environments, abilities, puzzles,... it will all be in there.
Why should this game fail to deliver a good gaming experience? I don't get the concerns.
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I believe that for Zelda fans who didn't like BOTW or some of its elements being this similar to BOTW is not a good thing. At least it was the case for me.
Personally after I skimmed through the leaked artbook I stopped being worried.
 
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I believe that for Zelda fans who didn't like BOTW or some of it's elements being this similar to BOTW is not a good thing. At least it was the case for me.
Personally after I skimmed through the leaked artbook I stopped being worried.
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Okay, ,I get that - although I can't really relate personally.
If I hadn't enjoyed Breath of the wild I would have dropped out of the news cycle for this game very early - because at it's core there is obviously a lot of BotW still in TotK, for sure.

But if it's really just the inclusion of more enemy variety, themed dungeons or whatever it is that you and others missed in BotW, to really like TotK despite not liking BotW at all, then okay - I get why you are anxious and want more infos.
 
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Kevin said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo doesn't start any real marketing game until at least 2-3 weeks after the Mario movie releases. Nintendo seems like they want fans to ONLY focus on that movie and nothing else. Apparently you can't market both a movie and a video game in the same time frame...
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Nintendo is not marketing the Mario movie. Universal is. If anything I'd imagine there will be something after Bayonetta so as not to overshadow it, but tbh hopefully there's something this week. Feels like that game is unmarketable as it is and already has its niche. just get the TOTK info out there.
 
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Nintendo is not marketing the Mario movie. Universal is. If anything I'd imagine there will be something after Bayonetta so as not to overshadow it, but tbh hopefully there's something this week. Feels like that game is unmarketable as it is and already has its niche. just get the TOTK info out there.
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I'd say Bayonetta had "enough" done by Nintendo. TGA spotlight, Direct featured, lot's of tweets, demo with progress carrying over ...

So yeah, let's go TotK marketing.
 
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I think next week might give us something even if there was no PAX, the middle of next week isn't a bad time for the OLED announcement. OLED announcements come amount about 8 weeks their respective games' release and it won't overshadow Bayonetta in any significant way.
 
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If anything I think this is why we aren't seeing much Zelda yet, more than the movie being the reason. Marketing for Zelda is gonna completely overshadow every other game (except maybe Silksong whenever that pops up) and Nintendo does tend to try and keep from robbing spotlight from their smaller games.
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It wouldn't surprise me if this is partially why TOTK has also had somewhat truncated trailers in Nintendo Directs. The last Direct would be the fourth time where TOTK has capped off a show full of noteworthy announcements in their own right and they've all had a tenor to them where they only show enough to get conversation started about gameplay hooks and speculation but doesn't completely drown out the air of everything else.

I guess you can say that's sort of one negative aspect about Directs if anything (or just press events in general), the shared spotlight turns it kind of into a competition of sorts. But despite TOTK being Nintendo's biggest game ever made, I can respect that they've been humble about it until now. Just like I'll remember E3 2019's Nintendo Direct less for confirming TOTK's existence and more for things like No More Heroes 3, Astral Chain, and Banjo in Smash, I'll remember the last Direct for things like Metroid Prime Remastered, Game Boy Switch, and Pikmin 4. I'm glad that the last Direct got to be Metroid's "moment" if anything.

Either way, presumably -- hopefully -- they'll have their inhibitions lessened once Bayonetta is out and the fiscal year comes to a close. Next week or the week after I think is a reasonable time to begin expectations in earnest for bigger showings. Doing a big TOTK presentation would be a strong show of confidence entering into the new fiscal year I'd imagine.
 
Does anyone here know how many patents Nintendo has filed just for BOTW's gameplay mechanics? When I google search BOTW PATENT it only shows TOTK related content, so I'm genuinely curious...
 
I know we already discussed before, but this game has the worst marketing for a 3D Zelda game to me. At least what I can recall.

Sometimes it feels like they wanted to focus on the similarities to BotW, instead of the uniqueness of the new one. And we already know by the leaks that there’s many new things to this game.

I can understand that this works for those who wants to go blind, but this does not work for those of us who wants to see the difference with the previous game.

I really really hope they never try this approach again. Just throw a couple of good trailers instead of a ton of insipid teasers.
 
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