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hee hoo peanutWhy did the entire Donkey Kong fandom on this site decide to go apeshit today lmao
hee hoo peanutWhy did the entire Donkey Kong fandom on this site decide to go apeshit today lmao
You want DK to hang out with his murderer??
Already exists.
It was a mutual decision to end development. Nintendo wanted to bring DK in-house; Activision wanted to prioritize their own IP. It's unknown how many ideas from this cancelled game will carry over, if any, but Nintendo was enthusiastic about it and it was very much a 3D game.Activision pulled the plug on a collaboration with Nintendo for Donkey Kong that had smooth development AND Miyamoto approval, to...resuscitate Crash Bandicoot?
no disrespect but idk about that.
Already exists.
If it was a mutual decision, that does help this rumor's legitimacy. And this isn't the only rumor that has Nintendo wanting to bring DK in-house.It was a mutual decision to end development. Nintendo wanted to bring DK in-house; Activision wanted to prioritize their own IP. It's unknown how many ideas from this cancelled game will carry over, if any, but Nintendo was enthusiastic about it and it was very much a 3D game.
Greetings, Famiboards. I hope everybody is having a nice week!
The reason Donkey Kong has been on hiatus for so long isn't because Nintendo doesn't know what to do with DK; on the contrary, DK's big comeback game has been in development since at least 2016. Vicarious Visions, the developers of the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, were working on an open world 3D DK game following the release of Skylanders: SuperChargers. Miyamoto was contributing design ideas and loved what he saw, but for various reasons, the project was shelved and development shifted over to EPD Tokyo in 2018, sometime after the release of Super Mario Odyssey.
Now, this is where the confusion stems from. Everybody assumes that this new Donkey Kong game is going to be a 2D platformer—and it very well could be—due to job listings and because they refuse to entertain the thought of Nintendo investing the resources into an ambitious DK game when they could just make a new 3D Mario instead. However, the game that was in development prior to the shift was most definitely NOT 2D. Other than a few minor details, such as Pauline being a playable character, this is all I know about the cancelled DK project.
This is speculation on my part, but I think the real reason why we haven't seen this new game yet is because Nintendo is going to surprise the world by announcing the first 3D Donkey Kong game since 1999. I believe it's going to be a launch title for their next system and serve as the big ape's Breath of the Wild moment—a complete rethinking of the franchise and its conventions. Behind the scenes, Miyamoto has been championing for a major DK brand revitalization, hence the theme park expansion and rumored spin-off film. He wants DK to be an A-tier franchise again, and he was reportedly behind the push to bring the franchise "home" and develop it internally. Now, you're free to disregard my post as wishful thinking and accuse me of peddling "fake news" or whatever, but this cancelled DK game has been common knowledge in certain circles for years. I am not revealing anything new, other than questioning why they would cancel an ambitious 3D game that everybody at EPD loved—including Miyamoto himself!—and make a 2D platformer instead. However, no matter what genre this new game is, I am confident that Nintendo has DK’s best interests at heart and it won't be much longer before we hear about it.
Zippo is full of shit, by the way. He lies constantly and piggybacks off other insiders. Don't believe a word he says about DK or anything else. EPD is more secure than the Pentagon. The only reason we know about this game is because of western sources who were involved in the cancelled Vicarious Visions project.
Greetings, Famiboards. I hope everybody is having a nice week!
The reason Donkey Kong has been on hiatus for so long isn't because Nintendo doesn't know what to do with DK; on the contrary, DK's big comeback game has been in development since at least 2016. Vicarious Visions, the developers of the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, were working on an open world 3D DK game following the release of Skylanders: SuperChargers. Miyamoto was contributing design ideas and loved what he saw, but for various reasons, the project was shelved and development shifted over to EPD Tokyo in 2018, sometime after the release of Super Mario Odyssey.
Now, this is where the confusion stems from. Everybody assumes that this new Donkey Kong game is going to be a 2D platformer—and it very well could be—due to job listings and because they refuse to entertain the thought of Nintendo investing the resources into an ambitious DK game when they could just make a new 3D Mario instead. However, the game that was in development prior to the shift was most definitely NOT 2D. Other than a few minor details, such as Pauline being a playable character, this is all I know about the cancelled DK project.
This is speculation on my part, but I think the real reason why we haven't seen this new game yet is because Nintendo is going to surprise the world by announcing the first 3D Donkey Kong game since 1999. I believe it's going to be a launch title for their next system and serve as the big ape's Breath of the Wild moment—a complete rethinking of the franchise and its conventions. Behind the scenes, Miyamoto has been championing for a major DK brand revitalization, hence the theme park expansion and rumored spin-off film. He wants DK to be an A-tier franchise again, and he was reportedly behind the push to bring the franchise "home" and develop it internally. Now, you're free to disregard my post as wishful thinking and accuse me of peddling "fake news" or whatever, but this cancelled DK game has been common knowledge in certain circles for years. I am not revealing anything new, other than questioning why they would cancel an ambitious 3D game that everybody at EPD loved—including Miyamoto himself!—and make a 2D platformer instead. However, no matter what genre this new game is, I am confident that Nintendo has DK’s best interests at heart and it won't be much longer before we hear about it.
Zippo is full of shit, by the way. He lies constantly and piggybacks off other insiders. Don't believe a word he says about DK or anything else. EPD is more secure than the Pentagon. The only reason we know about this game is because of western sources who were involved in the cancelled Vicarious Visions project.
Why would the latter be true? You make these statements as if Nintendo can’t make more than 1 game at a time, or that them prioritizing one game means the other isn’t prioritized at all.Yeah, none of that makes any sense, lol.
Activision would never allow any of their devs to work on Donkey Kong.
Nintendo would never make a 3D Donkey Kong if that caused Mario to go a decade without a new entry.
A new 3D Donkey Kong means the next 3D Mario isn't until 2028.
scrambles to find kirby threadmy DK crusade in the kirby thread lmao
lmao it's the is kirby the new #2 Nintendo Platformer threadscrambles to find kirby thread
Why would the latter be true? You make these statements as if Nintendo can’t make more than 1 game at a time, or that them prioritizing one game means the other isn’t prioritized at all.
Don’t think it matters too much if a company has experience in making ‘x’ type of game or not. Retro didn’t have any experience with 2D platformers either and they made two of the best in the genre. Playground Games now trying their first non-racing game with Fable; Guerilla Games found success with Horizon which is far different than their FPS history with Kill Zone.
My point being is you don’t know what a studio is capable of doing unless it’s given the opportunity to diversify its catalog with something different.
"This is going to be Donkey Kong's Breath of the Wild and also the dev has never made a platformer before" do not go together well.
What Nintendo studio could make this.
Let's rule out Retro (Prime 4), Next Level (Mario Strikers), EPD3 (TotK), EPD10 (new 2D platformer), EP8 (next 3D Mario), EPD4 (casual games), EPD5 (Splatoon 3), Game Freak (Pokemon), HAL (Kirby), Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem and Paper Mario), EPD9 (Mario Kart), and Monolith Soft (Xenoblade 3)
... That's basically all of Nintendo's devs other than NST.
What non-Nintendo studio could make this.
Thank you for the insight!!Greetings, Famiboards. I hope everybody is having a nice week!
The reason Donkey Kong has been on hiatus for so long isn't because Nintendo doesn't know what to do with DK; on the contrary, DK's big comeback game has been in development since at least 2016. Vicarious Visions, the developers of the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, were working on an open world 3D DK game following the release of Skylanders: SuperChargers. Miyamoto was contributing design ideas and loved what he saw, but for various reasons, the project was shelved and development shifted over to EPD Tokyo in 2018, sometime after the release of Super Mario Odyssey.
Now, this is where the confusion stems from. Everybody assumes that this new Donkey Kong game is going to be a 2D platformer—and it very well could be—due to job listings and because they refuse to entertain the thought of Nintendo investing the resources into an ambitious DK game when they could just make a new 3D Mario instead. However, the game that was in development prior to the shift was most definitely NOT 2D. Other than a few minor details, such as Pauline being a playable character, this is all I know about the cancelled DK project.
This is speculation on my part, but I think the real reason why we haven't seen this new game yet is because Nintendo is going to surprise the world by announcing the first 3D Donkey Kong game since 1999. I believe it's going to be a launch title for their next system and serve as the big ape's Breath of the Wild moment—a complete rethinking of the franchise and its conventions. Behind the scenes, Miyamoto has been championing for a major DK brand revitalization, hence the theme park expansion and rumored spin-off film. He wants DK to be an A-tier franchise again, and he was reportedly behind the push to bring the franchise "home" and develop it internally. Now, you're free to disregard my post as wishful thinking and accuse me of peddling "fake news" or whatever, but this cancelled DK game has been common knowledge in certain circles for years. I am not revealing anything new, other than questioning why they would cancel an ambitious 3D game that everybody at EPD loved—including Miyamoto himself!—and make a 2D platformer instead. However, no matter what genre this new game is, I am confident that Nintendo has DK’s best interests at heart and it won't be much longer before we hear about it.
Zippo is full of shit, by the way. He lies constantly and piggybacks off other insiders. Don't believe a word he says about DK or anything else. EPD is more secure than the Pentagon. The only reason we know about this game is because of western sources who were involved in the cancelled Vicarious Visions project.
On the bright side, there's a real chance most Switch 2 titles will be crossgen.VV working on a DK game isn't that far fetched.. they worked closely with Nintendo with Skylanders (in fact, they pitched the whole toys to life thing to Nintendo first and foremost); But I REALLY really hope that what EPD is cooking is not a 3D game... I want a traditional DKC game, dammit.. a 2D game game can be as ambitious and gather just as much marketing push.
and please, be on Switch, not on a far off successor (which I'm not financially prepared to buy so soon)
Do you know anything else about the next game like if it'll come out soon or what characters that they're going to use for it?Greetings, Famiboards. I hope everybody is having a nice week!
The reason Donkey Kong has been on hiatus for so long isn't because Nintendo doesn't know what to do with DK; on the contrary, DK's big comeback game has been in development since at least 2016. Vicarious Visions, the developers of the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, were working on an open world 3D DK game following the release of Skylanders: SuperChargers. Miyamoto was contributing design ideas and loved what he saw, but for various reasons, the project was shelved and development shifted over to EPD Tokyo in 2018, sometime after the release of Super Mario Odyssey.
Now, this is where the confusion stems from. Everybody assumes that this new Donkey Kong game is going to be a 2D platformer—and it very well could be—due to job listings and because they refuse to entertain the thought of Nintendo investing the resources into an ambitious DK game when they could just make a new 3D Mario instead. However, the game that was in development prior to the shift was most definitely NOT 2D. Other than a few minor details, such as Pauline being a playable character, this is all I know about the cancelled DK project.
This is speculation on my part, but I think the real reason why we haven't seen this new game yet is because Nintendo is going to surprise the world by announcing the first 3D Donkey Kong game since 1999. I believe it's going to be a launch title for their next system and serve as the big ape's Breath of the Wild moment—a complete rethinking of the franchise and its conventions. Behind the scenes, Miyamoto has been championing for a major DK brand revitalization, hence the theme park expansion and rumored spin-off film. He wants DK to be an A-tier franchise again, and he was reportedly behind the push to bring the franchise "home" and develop it internally. Now, you're free to disregard my post as wishful thinking and accuse me of peddling "fake news" or whatever, but this cancelled DK game has been common knowledge in certain circles for years. I am not revealing anything new, other than questioning why they would cancel an ambitious 3D game that everybody at EPD loved—including Miyamoto himself!—and make a 2D platformer instead. However, no matter what genre this new game is, I am confident that Nintendo has DK’s best interests at heart and it won't be much longer before we hear about it.
Zippo is full of shit, by the way. He lies constantly and piggybacks off other insiders. Don't believe a word he says about DK or anything else. EPD is more secure than the Pentagon. The only reason we know about this game is because of western sources who were involved in the cancelled Vicarious Visions project.
No. To reiterate, all I know is that Vicarious Vicarious was working on an open-world 3D Donkey Kong game before development shifted over to EPD Tokyo. I don't know what form this new game will take, and anybody who claims to know otherwise—like Zippo—is probably lying. It could be 3D, it could be 2D; it may not even be a platformer! What's important is that, thanks to Miyamoto and the younger staff at EPD who grew up playing the Super Donkey Kong games, Nintendo is taking DK seriously again—if that wasn't obvious enough based on their theme park/film plans.Do you know anything else about the next game like if it'll come out soon or what characters that they're going to use for it?
Yes that part was obvious with the theme park and the Donkey Kong characters being in the Mario movie. Also according to Seth Rogen there's going to be a Donkey Kong movie or so I've heard. I was just trying to find out all I possibly can because I'm a fan of the series and it has been forever since we've had a new game. I'm also on Twitter too by the same username. But if you find out even more please contact me.No. To reiterate, all I know is that Vicarious Vicarious was working on an open-world 3D Donkey Kong game before development shifted over to EPD Tokyo. I don't know what form this new game will take, and anybody who claims to know otherwise—like Zippo—is probably lying. It could be 3D, it could be 2D; it may not even be a platformer! What's important is that, thanks to Miyamoto and the younger staff at EPD who grew up playing the Super Donkey Kong games, Nintendo is taking DK seriously again—if that wasn't obvious enough based on their theme park/film plans.
Also all the DKC street signs in Odyssey. I feel like some people think DKC is this series Nintendo is ashamed of even though we know that is not the case.Some details seem hard to believe.
Though I'll say VV pre-producing a DK game after their DK and Bowser collab in Skylanders do make sense to me.
I don't believe it was far into production, nor that it was an "ambitious" game, nor that development was shifted toward EPD.
I do believe that EPD is making a DK game, but it would be a whole another project.
Honestly, a DK game in-house just makes sense. They ain't creating a whole theme park zone based on DK Country with no game on the horizon. I think rumors about that game are mostly exagerated if not just lucky guesses. Doesn't give me much confidence when the likes of Emily straight up never heard anything about it and then you have some low-tier insiders telling you it's a "very well known project among insiders"
It'll happen anyway, DK still is a very popular IP, and it's popular internally. Just look at Splatoon and how they make parody of the Donkey Kong Country box art within the game's universe.
I don't think DKC was something anyone was ever ashamed of. It's just that Nintendo devs don't like stepping on other devs shoes, or incorporating arbitrary elements from games they didn't make from long ago unless they have an idea of what to use them for.Also all the DKC street signs in Odyssey. I feel like some people think DKC is this series Nintendo is ashamed of even though we know that is not the case.
It's just an issue of it not having a consistent home for the last 20 years.
The fact that Rare Kongs have four fingers instead of five too. Though that's cultural.The only thing I think someone at Nintendo disliked is Kevin's Bayliss' design for DK's nose. That was the oddest redesign that flew past everyone. But it's such a deliberate change.
What is that? His regular DKC design?The only thing I think someone at Nintendo disliked is Kevin's Bayliss' design for DK's nose. That was the oddest redesign that flew past everyone. But it's such a deliberate change.
What is that? His regular DKC design?
I think that was more "do you REALLY need a character like Donkey Kong?". Remember that for Miyamoto, form follows function. So I can see why he was against a cameo for cameo's sake (for the same reason, he blocked Pikmin from appearing).He blocked DK from cameoing in Galaxy because the character didn't mesh with the Mario cast.
It’s interesting how many developments the DK EPD story has gotten over the years.
Usually we hear almost nothing from EPD Nintendo titles before official reveals. For instance, Pikmin 4 never leaked prior to the September 2022 Direct.
Oh wow, thank you for sharing!Pikmin 4 was announced in 2015 and had some leaks in 2020... On this very website.
Oh wow, thank you for sharing!
Yeah I was aware of the whole 2015 EuroGamer Shigeru Miyamoto interview, but I didn’t consider that as a “leak.”
Especially since Emily Rogers said the Pikmin 4 development got rebooted in 2019.
I’ve been on Fami only since January so if there were some leaks I wasn’t aware of, I apologise.
No. To reiterate, all I know is that Vicarious Vicarious was working on an open-world 3D Donkey Kong game before development shifted over to EPD Tokyo. I don't know what form this new game will take, and anybody who claims to know otherwise—like Zippo—is probably lying. It could be 3D, it could be 2D; it may not even be a platformer! What's important is that, thanks to Miyamoto and the younger staff at EPD who grew up playing the Super Donkey Kong games, Nintendo is taking DK seriously again—if that wasn't obvious enough based on their theme park/film plans.
Banana peels, not banana "shoes." But yes; that was one of the many gameplay mechanics that Miyamoto gave his input on. Folks, Miyamoto loves Donkey Kong. He's the reason why Jungle Beat and Donkey Kong Country Returns were made, and he's the reason why DK is now being prioritized at EPD.Just curious, did you hear anything about the rumors that DK would grind on vines with banana shoes?
Banana peels, not banana "shoes." But yes; that was one of the many gameplay mechanics that Miyamoto gave his input on. Folks, Miyamoto loves Donkey Kong. He's the reason why Jungle Beat and Donkey Kong Country Returns were made, and he's the reason why DK is now being prioritized at EPD.
Oh wow, that’s very interesting. Thank youBanana peels, not banana "shoes." But yes; that was one of the many gameplay mechanics that Miyamoto gave his input on. Folks, Miyamoto loves Donkey Kong. He's the reason why Jungle Beat and Donkey Kong Country Returns were made, and he's the reason why DK is now being prioritized at EPD.
I think TFB did Crash 4, but that’s an interesting similarity anyway@Gartooth posted this on Discord a second ago. VV did something very similar in their Crash game too.
Until we know what Tokyo’s 2D game is there’s no reason to disbelieve tbh.I put EPD Donkey Kong in the same box as Star Fox Racing myself
I think DK is still presumably one of the 2D games in development whereas the 3D one is Mario.Okay but then who is developing 3D Mario? Do we seriously believe Nintendo doesn't have a 3D Mario in development when new hardware is right there in the horizon?
I've been lurking on this thread. I'm a regular at DK Vine and registered on Famiboards just to share a few details that I'm privy to.Okay but then who is developing 3D Mario? Do we seriously believe Nintendo doesn't have a 3D Mario in development when new hardware is right there in the horizon?