I think the upsampling to 1080 could becontrovertial, i have seen comparisons (not zelda, different games and techniques over the years), and sometimes i prefered the upsampled one, sometimes the native res... so, yeah, depends i guess. i would not say that it by itself is a better solution.They did update the game but normally updates don't employ very new technologies since they have the potential to break stuff.
Things I expect or would make sense would be
- Relatively stable framerate equal to or above BOTW
- Temporal upsample to improve viewing resolution. Starting at 720p and upsampling to 1080p is a possibility and would save performance vs the 900p dynamic resolution setup they have used in BOTW
- Improved texture work
- Better LoDs
I think those things would provide a noticeable upgrade while being within the Switch's capabilities. BOTW is still very much a WiiU game. The Switch has more power and advanced features to play with on top of software advances. I don't anticipate a huge jump because I expect there to be gameplay innovations that are going to need to be considered but I think the visual makeup should see a bold step up.
We really need a long trailer or gameplay slice so stronger analysis can be done or digital foundry can observe. We are only 5 months off which suggest by March we should have a lot more footage.
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Good point!united states citizens, don't forget that the supreme court says you can emulate dumped copies of games you own
It's a fundamental property of the tech. From Wikipedia:Everything I can find online says OLED drains more power, is there something somewhere that shows the opposite at smaller sizes? I can only find data going as low as 32 inches.
While an OLED will consume around 40% of the power of an LCD displaying an image that is primarily black, for the majority of images it will consume 60–80% of the power of an LCD. However, an OLED can use more than 300% power to display an image with a white background, such as a document or web site. This can lead to reduced battery life in mobile devices when white backgrounds are used.
I'd also add that Link's colors don't look vibrant enough to me, his clothes seem a bit too pale.Thank you. Lack of unique inner art, no new screenshots and what looks to be 2023 under the game title makes me think fake.
Imgur sucks on mobileactually I should @Skittzo who has occasionally used our DMs as imgur
The release date is normal to see on boxes sent out to stores for them to display before launch sompeople can pre-order, but what makes me doubt is:This is the image from that post.
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Good catch!There is a much clearer reason for that cover to be fake - the release date is for some reason below the title, no chance it's real.
If the dissadvantage in power draw would really be significant im confident that the mobile phone market would have had more diversity, as it stands (especialyl with dark themes and such) oled has become the default for mid to high end devices, so i asume the real life power draw difference is not that high (especially since it is just 1 part of the equation, with the SOC, speakers, wifi, ram, bluetooth, storage all having their own burden on battery life...)It's a fundamental property of the tech. From Wikipedia:
LCDs have to light up the whole screen all the time, OLEDs light up each individual pixel. Black pixels aren't lit up at all, that's why OLEDs have deeper blacks. So power tests can lie based on use case. A power test developed for an LCD that just shows a white screen will show huge power use for OLED, which sitting in the dark and watching Batman, the OLED uses much less power.
OLEDs are often brighter than LCDs, which is why you can't compare two TV screens to see the power advantages. For a device plugged into a wall, a manufacturer will choose a brighter screen that looks better on a showroom than being power efficient. The Switch OLED screen is actually slightly dimmer than the LCD screen, so that's not relevant in this case.
For a video game device, an OLED screen almost definitely offers a small, but real, power advantage.
Apparently this uncle said back in May '21 the OLED wasn't going to launch that October. I think they know something but their timing estimations may be off.unfortunately these were not the Uncles we were looking for and it doesn't look good for a Zelda launch.
the only way this resolves is with further Uncles who have better things to report. either way the Uncles are the key to all this.
nice here's hoping he's a well meaning but sometimes inaccurate Uncle.Apparently this uncle said back in May '21 the OLED wasn't going to launch that October. I think they know something but their timing estimations may be off.
But the hint I'm getting from all of this is that I'm not going to buy an OLED this year.
I think I’ll wait for Nate to say something before drawing any new conclusions
This is greatwatching Batman, the OLED uses much less power.
We have a Tears of the Kingdom discussion thread for exactly questions like this, for future reference.Has anyone managed to decipher what the symbols are on the back of the joycons from the supposed ToTK Switch leak?
As Batman evolves, OLED gets more efficient displaying them.LCDs have to light up the whole screen all the time, OLEDs light up each individual pixel. Black pixels aren't lit up at all, that's why OLEDs have deeper blacks. So power tests can lie based on use case. A power test developed for an LCD that just shows a white screen will show huge power use for OLED, which sitting in the dark and watching Batman, the OLED uses much less power.
Yeah I agree, it seems Nate only speaks once someone says something else first. I could be %100 wrong but I am not concerned with the podcast at this rate because I feel like what he will have to say is something that will have been brought up alreadyNot trying to throw any digs at Nate but by the time he actually decides to say something we would have heard from Nintendo already about their plans, so dont get your hopes up
Oooh! Finally something I know about!OLEDs are often brighter than LCDs, which is why you can't compare two TV screens to see the power advantages. For a device plugged into a wall, a manufacturer will choose a brighter screen that looks better on a showroom than being power efficient. The Switch OLED screen is actually slightly dimmer than the LCD screen, so that's not relevant in this case.
You gotta admire the good ol’ low res photos that makes the screenshots on the back blurry and pixelated as hell.This is the image from that post.
Fun fact: Batman the Animated Series was drawn on black paper. It's the OLED of cartoons.As Batman evolves, OLED gets more efficient displaying them.
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OLEDs are actually dimmer than LED LCD displays, typically. In fact, when it comes to TVs, brightness is the one area (aside from image retention I guess) where LCDs have OLEDs comprehensively beat. A good LED LCD TV can easily have a peak brightness of 2,000 nits or even more. The best OLEDs will not reach this (or if they can it will be in extremely small windows for short periods of time).
However, unless you have a lot of direct sunlight, the perceived brightness of an OLED will be as high if not higher than an LCD. This is because (a) the human eye doesn't care that much about absolute brightness; past a certain point, it will think "yeah that's bright" and be done with it, and (b) the near-infinite contrast ratio of OLEDs make the bright highlights appear brighter by comparison
Great led (especially ips) pannels can look stunning in mit to bright environments, but in darkness (unlit rooms, brightness turned down) its starting to loose, cause even the best have a grey look to their blacks.Adding another interesting bit to this post:
When comparing a pretty decent LED panel to an OLED one, in a bright enough environment, the perceived blacks on the LED display are really close to an OLED.
The comparison falls apart once you re-do the test in a dark environment - the backlight on the LED panel becomes way more obvious and the darker tones turn into a grey-ish black or light grey depending on how poor your panel is.
I found that LED panels that are comparable to OLED follow these general characteristics:
- a contrast ratio of at least ~1200:1 - 1500:1
- little to no backlight bleed
- glossy finish
- over 90% aRGB coverage and decent enough P3 coverage as well (both things most OLED panels excell at)
From my experience, these are common on devices such as:
- smartphones (specially the cheaper/older iPhones)
- samsung/LG LED TVs, specially Samsung's latest 50inch+
- lenovo YOGA or dell XPS laptops
I had an LG G6. While I certainly LIKE OLED displays, I think overall I might prefer LCD/LED. Hopefully MicroLED has the best of both worlds. OLED's burn in problem is pretty severe, even on Samsung panels, and at low brightness the very slight differences between the pixels become more obvious, making the screen look grainy.Great led (especially ips) pannels can look stunning in mit to bright environments, but in darkness (unlit rooms, brightness turned down) its starting to loose, cause even the best have a grey look to their blacks.
(mid entry/mid range lg ips 4k monitor, dell xps13, ipad 9th gen, and an lg g6 .. and all are obviously led in the dark)
Oh yeah, both can look grainy (im still confused how nobody except me is bothered by the obvious black lines on the og switch);I had an LG G6. While I certainly LIKE OLED displays, I think overall I might prefer LCD/LED. Hopefully MicroLED has the best of both worlds. OLED's burn in problem is pretty severe, even on Samsung panels, and at low brightness the very slight differences between the pixels become more obvious, making the screen look grainy.
Though it also depends on usecase. I prefer LCD for phones and OLED on Switch.
I loved my Plasma, but I dunno about this. the motion resolution on plasma is terrific, but the color and brightness of OLED are so nice.panel preference is indeed personal. would agree and prefer IPS type for phones & monitors, they just appear smoother on the eyes especially for text. OLED is great for gaming & movies though no doubt. would still take a top-end Plasma TV over any OLED though.
Been putting this to good use on my Analogue Pocket. Nifty little machine.united states citizens, don't forget that the supreme court says you can emulate dumped copies of games you own
I'm living the dream with my OLED + forced HDR + Black Frame Insertion. Motion looks just as good as my CRT.I loved my Plasma, but I dunno about this. the motion resolution on plasma is terrific, but the color and brightness of OLED is so nice.
They will reintroduce the 3DS IPS/TN panel lottery.Switch 2 will come in two variants.
OLED and LCD.
Best of both worlds.
i remember being hyped for SED-TV seemed to be the best of all worlds. RIP.Look, we done fucked up when we left CRT behind, and every display technology is just a different circle of hell we have to sit in until ChatGPT becomes sentient and we have a full Matrix situation.
Completely agree! Launch units will get the better screens.They will reintroduce the 3DS IPS/TN panel lottery.
4K developer kit certainly seems like a weird way of wording. A next gen development kit wouldn't have to be strictly a "4K" development kit. Considering the system wouldn't be hitting Native 4K, and it's simply a next gen dev kit.To clarify, Zynga does not have a 4K developer kit from Nintendo. As a Switch developer for the upcoming Star Wars: Hunters game that Zynga announced on a recent Nintendo Direct, we can confirm that none of the developer kits Zynga has or is in receipt of are 4K developer kits.
A news report on Sept. 30, 2021(JST) falsely claims that Nintendo is supplying tools to drive game development for a Nintendo Switch with 4K support
Sir I lifted a 200lb+ ~36 inch CRT once, my back is angry just thinking about the damn thing.Look, we done fucked up when we left CRT behind, and every display technology is just a different circle of hell we have to sit in until ChatGPT becomes sentient and we have a full Matrix situation.
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