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Pre-Release Splatoon 3 — Pre-release Discussion Thread

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Miraj said:
I never played Splatoon 1, but enjoyed Splatoon 2 with friends and bought Octo-Expansion but haven't played it yet (I'm intimidated by the apparently obscene difficulty haha).
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If you've completed the base game campaign mode, I'm more than confident that you'll be able to play through the expansion. I'd say it's challenging, but far from hard.
 
GriffMendez said:
If you've completed the base game campaign mode, I'm more than confident that you'll be able to play through the expansion. I'd say it's challenging, but far from hard.
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That's good to hear. Seeing so many people who are Splatoon veterans saying they nearly gave up on Octo Expansion due to its difficulty made me anxious to start it. I barely beat the final boss in Splatoon 2's story mode, so... yeah lol
 
Sheldon said:
Lack of Nogami is a valid criticism. I enjoyed the narrator leaving their vocal chords out on the field for THE BIG RUN, but still ... no Squid Research Lab Scientist in a Squid Research Lab Scientist Labcoat? Truly appaling.
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Budget cuts.
 
ITSMILNER said:
Was just re-watching the Direct, on the section where they mention ‘Large scale paid DLC’ they have a message at the bottom saying ‘full version of Splatoon 3 required to use the DLC’ could this hint towards a F2P version just featuring multiplayer maybe?
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I feel like I've seen similar language, regarding Booster Pass DLCs (ACNH and MK8D), and I've interpreted it as "They either put that verbiage there to make sure nobody buys the DLC and then thinks they have access to the base games, or to remind Expansion Pack subscribers that, in order to play the DLC, they must purchase the game, first."
 
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I could be wrong people, but I see alot more fanart(really good) of Frye than Shiver on Twitter. You would think with the reactions, it would be the other way around.
P.S: I already like Frye more than I ever did Pearl.
P.S.S: I'm not low-key shitting on Shiver. I personally think they all look great.
 
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I like how we went from the special weapons and stages lineup being 90% bad in S1 & S2 to probably 90% good/great in S3

Edit: YOOOOOOOOO
 
Miraj said:
That's good to hear. Seeing so many people who are Splatoon veterans saying they nearly gave up on Octo Expansion due to its difficulty made me anxious to start it. I barely beat the final boss in Splatoon 2's story mode, so... yeah lol
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There were definitely a few enemies who I barely got passed, but the DLC actually taught me how to really use the gun weapons, bc I had been EXCLUSIVELY a paint roller, before I played it.
 
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I think the new Idols are growing on me.
They really hit a completely different vibe then we had seen before. Really appreciate it. Big Man is the best tho.
 
Ketwick9844 said:
I could be wrong people, but I see alot more fanart(really good) of Frye than Shiver on Twitter. You would think with the reactions, it would be the other way around.
P.S: I already like Frye more than I ever did Pearl.
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Hopefully, Nintendo is paying attention to the positive reception it's few Black characters receive, and will begin to diversify The Mushroom Kingdom (ideally, and ASAP), along with their other franchises.
 
GriffMendez said:
Hopefully, Nintendo is paying attention to the positive reception it's few Black characters receive, and will begin to diversify The Mushroom Kingdom (ideally, and ASAP), along with their other franchises.
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I wouldn't say Frye is black/African American like Marina. If you look at her more closely, she's more Middle Eastern(Arabian specifically). But yeah I see what you're saying and I hope so as well.
 
I just realized I've only been commenting on others' thoughts, so take this hodgepodge of a post:

-Overall I'm very excited and expect to pour hundreds of hours into this. Having a natural reset point for my friends that fell off 2 and one that never tried it to jump in and play together is great, and a significant portion of this excitement.
-I've called it more of the same, but across the board, that's not a bad thing. Every mode is pretty great.
-Three Way battles look like they'll be utter chaos that I can't wait to get in on.
-I do wish there was a mode with a new gameplay objective, perhaps focused on yet another player grouping. A multiplayer campaign, or a mode with even more players... something.
-Bro there's a drink dispenser
-BIG MAN
-In retrospect, the announcement trailer was just the Splatoon marketing team doing their thing, but it really seems it sent the wrong message. So many people were expecting a huge twist on the single player mode that doesn't seem to be here. I wonder how much of the disappointment in this thread traces back to hopes stemming from that trailer.
-The rainmaker has check points. That's a big change. I'll need to play it to get a feel for it.
-The Lobby is great. Everything about it. It's very easy to play with friends now in every mode.
-"Large-scale expansion" is interesting phrasing to me that makes me wonder if it's bigger than Octo Expansion was; it's also interesting that they're not currently trying to associate it with single player. (I did go back and check, and Octo Expansion was described as a "hefty single player mode". It was also called the "first paid DLC" for Splatoon 2, I had forgotten they implied more was on the way.)
-Anarchy (Open) is great. I can actually play my favorite modes with friends without asking them to get to rank B- by themselves when they're not that interested in playing alone.

I think that's most of the stuff on my mind.
 
Ketwick9844 said:
I wouldn't say Frye is black/African American like Marina. If you look at her more closely, she's more Middle Eastern(Arabian specifically). But yeah I see what you're saying and I hope so as well.
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She's definitely Black, but yeah, I love the style they gave her (more African/Afro-Arab/Afro-Latina than Afro-American, I think). Love that they went in that direction.

Idk. She looks like people I know, am family with, and been around, so it's nice. ☺️
 
Lucyfer said:
I'm genuinely excited for Splatoon 3 to be a staple of general directs for the next 2 years
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Oh shoot, it will be, won't it. I forgot how prevalent Splatoon 2 updates were. I still have some hope for a new multiplayer mode like Clam Blitz came late, but even without that, the Expansion, 3.0, and 4.0 updates were all pretty exciting without modes.

Raccoon said:
oh fuck I didn't even think about this

finally I'm in the right place at the right time
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I forgot myself and I was there for 2's lifetime and half of 1's. The community is very fun when the updates are streaming in.
 
Jersh said:
-In retrospect, the announcement trailer was just the Splatoon marketing team doing their thing, but it really seems it sent the wrong message. So many people were expecting a huge twist on the single player mode that doesn't seem to be here. I wonder how much of the disappointment in this thread traces back to hopes stemming from that trailer.
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Lol, when 3D All-Stars was announced, so many speculated and/or concluded that Galaxy 2 was being added as paid DLC, and that the games would sell, individually, in the eshop.

Nintendo fans have a tendency to think up whatever is possible, and then convince themselves that their ideas are plausible.
 
GriffMendez said:
Lol, when 3D All-Stars was announced, so many speculated and/or concluded that Galaxy 2 was being added as paid DLC, and that the games would sell, individually, in the eshop.

Nintendo fans have a tendency to think up whatever is possible, and then convince themselves that their ideas are plausible.
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Eh, in this case, I'll contend that what we saw in that trailer before Splattsville is pretty different from anything we've seen in marketing since. There was reason to think it was significant, as it was gameplay footage (or at least appeared to be at parts; it did have the disclaimer at the bottom).

But unfortunately I think it was just the intro/tutorial sequence before you get to the plaza, which is a rather bizarre thing to show off in a trailer (but again, in retrospect, you can tell what they were actually going for).
 
GriffMendez said:
Hopefully, Nintendo is paying attention to the positive reception it's few Black characters receive, and will begin to diversify The Mushroom Kingdom (ideally, and ASAP), along with their other franchises.
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I agree, although sadly I don't think it's going to be as quick as we would like. :(
 
Mbolibombo said:
Yeah I'm probably in the minority here but

I dont really see why I need to buy Splatoon 3 based on this presentation.. I only ever really care for the multiplayer which will still will be fun, but what enhances Splatoon 3 over 2 here, I didnt see. And all the stuff around it just doesnt do it for me,
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Here's what I see being the big differences:
  • Skipping the news: #1 change for me
  • The squid jump/ink deflection: this is going to make 3 feel completely different bc skilled players will be even harder to hit.
  • The speed-up wall jump: will make the game play faster and enhance overall movement.
  • The friend-joining features: by making this dynamic, it'll be easy to check out what your friends are doing and squad up. There's already a group of ppl here sharing codes, and I'm interested to see how far they'll go with this.
  • Enhanced training features: this stood out to me bc one of the things I asked for in a separate thread. The target dummies, ability to scout stages, and the ability to watch replays will help players improve without the pressure of live combat.
  • New gear/flair options: I'm curious how far they go with this, but adding emotes, nicknames, and locker personalization is going to give the game even more personality.
  • 3-way Splatfests: this looks like pure chaos.
  • New maps and weapons: these are the least significant changes to me bc they're the most iterative
  • New card game: I hate this, but lol some ppl liked that game in Bravely Default 2 so I'm sure a lot of ppl will enjoy it.
Overall, I'm more questioning if I'll like what all these changes will do to the feel of the game. The Splatfest at the end of the month is going to be important in that regard, so my enthusiasm may be tempered.
 
GriffMendez said:
She's definitely Black, but yeah, I love the style they gave her (more African/Afro-Arab/Afro-Latina than Afro-American, I think). Love that they went in that direction.

Idk. She looks like people I know, am family with, and been around, so it's nice. ☺️
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Oh I didn't think about her being Afro-Arab. Now that I look at her again, you might be onto something.
 
Jersh said:
But unfortunately I think it was just the intro/tutorial sequence before you get to the plaza, which is a rather bizarre thing to show off in a trailer (but again, in retrospect, you can tell what they were actually going for).
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True. At the time, many were wondering if there would be an extensive/expansive campaign mode, after seeing the teaser.
 
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GriffMendez said:
If you've completed the base game campaign mode, I'm more than confident that you'll be able to play through the expansion. I'd say it's challenging, but far from hard.
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There are a few levels there that made me pull my hair. I think it made many pull their hair these certain levels.

Also, Agent 3 I feel is a wall. Both versions, but especially the re-match. That was such a roadblock for me. The re-match I couldn’t even beat.
 
LukasManak22 said:
I just want to say that am not playing clam blitz once again. Just no.
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I have good news.

Apparently the 2 Anarchy modes actually have different modes in them. Meaning that there are consistently 2 different ranked modes you can play. As long as you aren't fussed about playing with friends..... You will never have to play Clam Blitz again.
 
GriffMendez said:
Hopefully, Nintendo is paying attention to the positive reception it's few Black characters receive, and will begin to diversify The Mushroom Kingdom (ideally, and ASAP), along with their other franchises.
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Other franchises will probably happen as we have seen with Xenoblade but Mario they have already shown they don’t want to diversify from the established cast which are the ones that they are pushing always .
 
Blue Monty said:
Other franchises will probably happen as we have seen with Xenoblade but Mario they have already shown they don’t want to diversify from the established cast which are the ones that they are pushing always .
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They add new characters with every game. Rosalina and Pauline were both brand new cast members at the times of their games.

Edit: Did not know Pauline was from deep in the lore. Still think it was an opportunity to create a new character.
 
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RochHoch said:
Bro

That post was from months ago. The Direct was great, exactly what I wanted to see.
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I don't know how to delete posts (have since edited out my response -sorry), and clicked the wrong topic. Thought I was in the Direct response. My apologies.
 
Well, if no beacons and roller and/or kraken, then I don't know if I'll find my groove as along with the roller this is the only way I enjoy playing. So fingers and fins crossed that the full weapons options do end up more to my taste.

I will say this though, the Splatfest carnival looked just brilliant.
 
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This Direct was a hype deflator personally. Consider my expectations managed.

This seems like even more “more of the same” than 2 was, that at least introduced Salmon Run.

This is just, more Turf War, the same four ranked (anarchy) modes, more Salmon Run, a new single player that looks the same as the other two (floating platforms, octarians, collect the Zapfish…).

The new content is just minor stuff, a board game, customisable victory emotes, a locker. The biggest new thing is that 3 team turf war, which is locked behind Splatfests.

I guess I just don’t get why this game even needs to exist. Should have made a spin-off and put this on the next console if they’re just going to do minor iterational releases.

The DLC is where the actual meat will be here, so why not just make another DLC for 2?
 
By the way, do people actually think the singleplayer won't be anything big just because they said you can use it as a tutorial? Did you not see the cutscenes they showed? Did you not see the octo expansion-like levels? It's going to be a whole experience. Why do people praise Octo Expansion so much, and then turn around to say "eh the singleplayer just looks like more floating platforms". OE was that too?
 
GriffMendez said:
Wait til you find out about this thing called "You don't have to buy it, play it, talk about it, or think about it, if it's not for you."
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I want to bring attention to this sentiment. I feel it's not the correct answer all the time, and just serves to shut down any criticism without leaving room to discuss further.

People like to point out that it's weird we look forward to Nintendo's "glorified commercials" - and yes, while this is an effort by a corporation to get us to hand over money for a product, there's nothing wrong with wanting to see a product you consider to be worth $60. The fact that you can save your money on a game you were looking forward to because it's not what you thought it was doesn't necessarily replace the value of what you were expecting to be available. Basically - keeping the $60 doesn't mean you'll be able to purchase something else that you'll be as satisfied with, game or otherwise.

All of this is ignoring that that particular user has repeatedly stated that the game is still for them and they expect to enjoy it regardless of it falling short of their particular expectations. They were just hoping to get even more out of it.
 
Blue Monty said:
Other franchises will probably happen as we have seen with Xenoblade but Mario they have already shown they don’t want to diversify from the established cast which are the ones that they are pushing always .
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I remember when it seemed like each 3D game added more recurring characters to the universe. A model following that would be the perfect opportunity to expand the diversity. Sadly they stopped doing that, and spinoff games are more restrictive. Alas.
Lucyfer said:
By the way, do people actually think the singleplayer won't be anything big just because they said you can use it as a tutorial? Did you not see the cutscenes they showed? Did you not see the octo expansion-like levels? It's going to be a whole experience. Why do people praise Octo Expansion so much, and then turn around to say "eh the singleplayer just looks like more floating platforms". OE was that too?
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I expect something along the lines of Splatoon 2's base single player, but the cutscenes already look like a step up, which is super exciting.
 
You know what? I'm with Jersh as of right now. We need to lay off some of the dismissive commentary and absolutism( that includes me). I'm talking about both sides. It's gone on for FAR too long. It's starting to look WAY too much like the many Pokemon discussions nowadays. As fans of this series(or any series for that matter), let's discuss but also RESPECT differing opinions(as long as it's not toxic).
 
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Lucyfer said:
By the way, do people actually think the singleplayer won't be anything big just because they said you can use it as a tutorial? Did you not see the cutscenes they showed? Did you not see the octo expansion-like levels? It's going to be a whole experience. Why do people praise Octo Expansion so much, and then turn around to say "eh the singleplayer just looks like more floating platforms". OE was that too?
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I'm fully expecting single player to have more than meets the eye, but that "I guess single player exists; moving on!" in the Direct feels like it was engineered in a lab to stoke fanxiety lol
 
Lucyfer said:
By the way, do people actually think the singleplayer won't be anything big just because they said you can use it as a tutorial? Did you not see the cutscenes they showed? Did you not see the octo expansion-like levels? It's going to be a whole experience. Why do people praise Octo Expansion so much, and then turn around to say "eh the singleplayer just looks like more floating platforms". OE was that too?
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With how coy Nintendo usually is with their narratives in marketing I'm holding out hope that they're doing that again here and Octo Expansion levels of care has become the template for Splatoon single player. Some stuff in the Direct snippet looked promising - cutscenes, some more grounded environments (also in the Rise of the Mammalians trailer), others less so, so we'll have to wait and see, but I'm keeping an open mind.

Also the single player campaign's title is used extensively in marketing, bringing to mind Octo Expansion.
 
Lucyfer said:
By the way, do people actually think the singleplayer won't be anything big just because they said you can use it as a tutorial? Did you not see the cutscenes they showed? Did you not see the octo expansion-like levels? It's going to be a whole experience.
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Besides comments coming from people who just don't play Splatoon, it seems like some have just forgotten what the other two story modes were like, because Splatoon 3's clearly has a lot more going on. The premise of Hero Mode in 1 is "the Octarians are up to no good." In 2 it's "Callie has been kidnapped." There's really nothing more to them than that. Just from the glimpses we've gotten of the new mode in 3, the plot involves some or all of the following: the return of mammals to the world and the mysterious goop everywhere (with the mode being called Return of the Mammalians instead of just Hero Mode again), and something's going on with Salmonids that's led you to team up with what's normally an enemy you fight; Callie/Marie/Cuttlefish/Agent 3 are there and so are Shiver/Frye/Big Man, Octavio is there but he might be an ally, and something happens that causes your own character's appearance to change between the Hero costume and the obviously chaos/apocalypse-based look. There's the motif of the rocket in the hub area and a voice doing a launch countdown in the background. There's the potential to elaborate on things that were part of the Octo Expansion. There are cutscenes, something the previous base games didn't have. As far as the actual content goes, it's going to be a mix of longer traditional levels and shorter challenge levels inspired by the Octo Expansion, but there are also some new things, like the snippet of a level we saw with the more cinematic camera. And finally, there are elements we know will be there, but they haven't even shown a hint of yet, like bosses and "bot" enemies, so we don't know how they've been changed.

Despite all that, will this live up to some people's expectations? Apparently not. But the story mode is still not the point of the game and never will be, and that's the sole reason it's not focused on as much in the trailers (in addition to saving some surprises in terms of the levels and obviously the plot). Compared to Splatoon 2, which has essentially the same story mode as the first game with a couple new level gimmicks, this game's has clearly evolved both in presentation/plot and in gameplay, and it will likely end up as a clear marriage between the structure of Hero Mode and the creativity of Octo Expansion, which is exactly what I wanted. And I think most players, who weren't biasing themselves from the get-go with these "marketing strategy-based takes" we're seeing a lot, are going to end up praising it as such.
 
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