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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%
  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%
  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%
  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%

  • Total voters
    258
  • Poll closed .
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I know others have said this, but if that's the case then why is XB3 releasing now? If ever there were a Nintendo franchise that needed help from new hardware, it's Xenoblade. If they're holding games back for Drake I'd strongly expect Xenoblade to be one of them, and yet..? 🤷‍♂️
It'll be interesting to see if, once that game is out, people can datamine DLSS code out of it. It'll be very telling (if the new unit isn't announced by then)
 
It of course kinda sucks that we won't get news on BOTW2, Metroid games or anything else Nintendo has in development but those games will come out eventually, and news will come in due time. Patience is a virtue my friends!

This new positive mindset of mine is very weird, do I need to go see a physician
 
Nintendo is not holding off Metroid Prime Remake, new Fire Emblem and Everybody Switch for some simultaneous hardware announcement as they don't really push the hardware in any meaningful way (especially compared to games like XC3 and Bayonetta 3).

They still need to fill next year with games other than BotW2 and that's the very simple and likely reason.
 
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The stacked first party published line up

July- Xenoblade 3
August- nothing
September- Splatoon 3
October- nothing
November- Pokémon S/V
December- nothing

I’ll give you Mario + Rabbids for one of the months. Still Nintendo published multiple games in the holidays in the past. It’s not stacked. There are heavy hitters for sure.
 
I'm just gonna assume from the start from now on that any Direct Nate teases is a Partner Showcase because I refuse to go through rollercoasters like that again.

Not that it being a Partner Showcase bothers me, we could still get some cool announcements there, but I like Directs mainly for Nintendo related announcements and being told for almost a month there's a Direct coming only to be told last minute it's a Partner or a Mini is bothering me.

It's not against you Nate, it's the "process".
 
Different question Nate than my previous one. When you say "Doesn't mean Nintendo has no presence", do you mean actual in house development like a Metroid Prime DE/HD or Nintendo presence in the way Mario + Rabbids or a Bayonetta 3 is technically Nintendo being present?

The latter.

@NateDrake

Can you please clarify this. I’ve seen a couple of posts say you heard a possible first party presentation is coming in the future. I assumed you were just speculating.

Consider it speculation.
 
I wonder what are the chances that Capcom will announce the new Mega Man game they've been working on during a partner direct...
 
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At the risk of being one of THOSE guys, a third-party focused Direct would have been much more exciting for me before the one-two punch of my Steam Deck shipping and the Steam summer sale starting.

However I'm very curious to see Arkham Knight running on the Switch if that rumor is true. To this day the detail in Knight is mind-blowing.
 
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I saw the Tom Henderson's tweet and immediately new this place was going to be on shambles. We should all calm down, and wait a little longer
 
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The stacked first party published line up

July- Xenoblade 3
August- nothing
September- Splatoon 3
October- nothing
November- Pokémon S/V
December- nothing

I’ll give you Mario + Rabbids for one of the months. Still Nintendo published multiple games in the holidays in the past. It’s not stacked. There are heavy hitters for sure.
July - Live A Live, Xenoblade 3
August - Advance Wars
September - Splatoon 3
October - Bayo 3
November - Pokémon
December - They don't always have something for december but maybe Fire Emblem?

Currently they have 6 games for 6 months, and they still can announce more. Splat and Pokémon will break sales records, there's absolutely no reason for Nintendo to get concerned.
 
Applying the "Age of Calamity is a partner game" logic Nitendo used, the Partner will/could include:

Bayonetta 3 (Platinumgames)
Mario+Rabbids (Ubisoft)
Fire Emblem 18 (IntSys/Gust)
Generally any game not made by a Nintendo-owned studio

If we get just Bayo 3 and M+R dated this year I'm honestly satisfied for the rest of 2022 from Nintendo considering we also have Pokémon and Splatoon.
 
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July - Live A Live, Xenoblade 3
August - Advance Wars
September - Splatoon 3
October - Bayo 3
November - Pokémon
December - They don't always have something for december but maybe Fire Emblem?

Currently they have 6 games for 6 months, and they still can announce more. Splat and Pokémon will break sales records, there's absolutely no reason for Nintendo to get concerned.
Why would I give a crap who breaks sales records? Bayonetta 3 can definitely be delayed. Fire Emblem is a rumor. Doesn’t mean it’ll come this year. I can easily see it as a 2023 game
 
My god, at this moment in time I just want it to happen no matter how it does. We’ve been a long time speculating, I’m tired 😅
 
The flaw with it is how liberal they opt to be with the term "Partner". Fire Emblem, being a KT developed game, could fall under the category.
Nate ignore me if it’s too much but are you still confident about Metroid Prime releasing this year?
 
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leaks are an inherently unreliable process. to engage you have to be ready for anything
Well, leaks or not, since this is the "e3" period, wether it happens or not, this is the season where publishers open the gates.

So contrary to 2020, I expected Nintendo to be "there", e3 or not. You expect to get updates on THEIR upcoming games like, I dunno, BotW 2 or anything Metroid related (new update for Dread, teaser / comment about Prime 4 dev, also the reveal -FINALLY- of "Sylux Legacy: Of Love and Bullets", an adventure game with Sylux and some Federation Soldiers with romances (and yes, you can date Ridley).
 
Tbh I understand people who are frustrated when these Nintendo "Insiders" have been saying a propper direct is happening this month for past couple of weeks then all of sudden the last 2 weeks of June they all back track or saying "Plans have change".
i recall seeing some aggressive comments toward people who showed concern of a general Direct happening after Xenoblade Direct was announced lol

Personally I think its time to stop listening to these "insiders" , but if people want to keep getting disappointed repeatedly by misleading informations that are "technically" not misleading informations then all power to them
 
Another way to look at this is that Nintendo’s next 9 months are pretty stacked from a first-party perspective, so in order to give 3rd parties room to breathe, they separate the directs.
 
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The stacked first party published line up

July- Xenoblade 3
August- nothing
September- Splatoon 3
October- nothing
November- Pokémon S/V
December- nothing

I’ll give you Mario + Rabbids for one of the months. Still Nintendo published multiple games in the holidays in the past. It’s not stacked. There are heavy hitters for sure.

I think Nintendo considers that stacked and yes, they consider Mario + Rabbids just as major as a release as any other major spin-off Mario game release.

As for Nintendo having released multiple games in one month/week in the past, I'll refer to the post I made yesterday:
Unrelated to the event next week and rather related to the topic a few pages back about why Nintendo is holding off games/announcements, I have a theory which directly relates to Nintendo's release schedule strategy in general which sprung to mind when Emily in the not-so-distant past remarked that (paraphrasing here) "maybe Nintendo tries to publish two games every month in 2022."

I was quite surprised by her saying that as Nintendo since consolidating for the Switch has always came off to me as trying very hard to spread out their first-party published games (whereas in the past their first-party games overlapped because they saw their previously seperated console and handheld console strategy as two completely different markets). Spreading them out in such a way that they do not overlap in one month other when absolutely necessary - in which case one title is clearly in the casual-oriented and the other clearly core-oriented spectrum (or its just some remasters/ports).

Why are they sitting on games and even announcements like the new Fire Emblem, Metroid Prime Remake and Everybody Switch? Because the release schedule this year is full enough from their point of view and next year other months/periods devoid of first-party releases need to be filled. as a result, a few of the games can be announced in the fall Direct. It's as simple as that.

It all boils down to this: people look back on the days where A Link Between Worlds and 3D World released in the same month (nevermind same day) and envision that future for the Switch, but Nintendo has been completely distancing themselves from such a strategy since their handheld and console market consolidated into one single market and platform. Instead they give each and every single first-party release the most potential breathing room and therefore selling power while simultaneously (trying) to keep third-party partners and developers happy that don't want to get overshadowed.

Other signs that may point to this strategy are unexpected moves like Nintendo seemingly not publishing/co-developing Good-Feel's next major release after doing so since their inception while Good-Feel is seemingly developing their new game as a Switch exclusive still. In this scenario Nintendo saw their Switch publishing schedule for the next few years after Crafted World finished development as full in their view and just didn't sign off their next pitch.

That's what makes most sense to me when looking at everything generally. Nintendo is probably also (close to) sitting on EPD Tokyo's game because I cannot imagine them taking longer than 5 years for a new release even accounting for COVID for example. Tokyo has been the most consistent studio at Nintendo since they were created.

We wondered if 2022 could be a repeat of 2017, but I don't think that Nintendo actively pursues a year like that other than for their console launch windows now to get the ball rolling.
 
The flaw with it is how liberal they opt to be with the term "Partner". Fire Emblem, being a KT developed game, could fall under the category.
No I think if it's a first party game published by Nintendo it won't show up. Age of Calamity made sense because it's a Koei game published by them in Japan. Cadence of Hyrule was a licensing deal with an indie company.

Bayonetta maybe if we really stretch the definition, but I seriously doubt Fire Emblem would show up. That's a pure Nintendo product (and it's a bit close to Three Hopes).
 
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Dang didn't know no e3 would mean no general direct, this sucks. At this point I'm just going to play the entire prime trilogy now. Done holding out for the remaster/remasters.
 
The way I see it there are too possibilities. Either Nintendo has simply stopped making big internal games or a new console is coming within the next 2 years. There really is no other explanation for why we see no Mario Kart 9, next 3D Mario, Metroid Prime 4, etc at this point. They've all obviously been in development for at least 4 years so there's 0 reason they couldn't have SOMETHING to tease us with by now. And if they did, they wouldn't be functionally skipping their yearly summer direct.
 
Jumping into the thread for the first time today.

Like I said yesterday, I think a Direct focused on third-party stuff has a lot of potential. But that's coming from someone who only owns a Switch, so I understand how multiplatform owners can be frustrated.

Plus, Nintendo already has a lot of games with their involvement coming out between now and the end of the year. Would I like more? Sure, I will always take more good games! But the lineup we already have in place is strong. That cannot be denied.
 
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Why would I give a crap who breaks sales records? Bayonetta 3 can definitely be delayed. Fire Emblem is a rumor. Doesn’t mean it’ll come this year. I can easily see it as a 2023 game
Literally nothing indicates Bayo 3 delay, no rumors at all. It'll definitely be there. Even without FE, they have 6 games lined up for this year. That's better than 2018 and 2020 H2 lineups.
 
Tbh I understand people who are frustrated when these Nintendo "Insiders" have been saying a propper direct is happening this month for past couple of weeks then all of sudden the last 2 weeks of June they all back track or saying "Plans have change".
This happens with Nintendo all the time because nobody gets all the information. They know about one thing or a handful of things being shown and then use that to predict what kind is event we’re getting. First party stuff tends to start pretty locked down.
 
Dragon Quest 3 remake isn’t announced for the West right? Nah, that won’t happen…

The flaw with it is how liberal they opt to be with the term "Partner". Fire Emblem, being a KT developed game, could fall under the category.

I think a main line Fire Emblem would be too far afield for a Partner Direct, even if it is being developed by KT. That is a huge IP for Nintendo, and so, it probably won’t show up until Nintendo’s next real Direct. At this point, it looks like a 2023 game, so they have time to unveil it.

Now, Partners working on spin off/side games with Nintendo IP (Hyrule Warriors, Cadence of Hyrule, Mario + Rabbids, etc.)? Sure, that can and will show here.
 
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The way I see it there are too possibilities. Either Nintendo has simply stopped making big internal games or a new console is coming within the next 2 years. There really is no other explanation for why we see no Mario Kart 9, next 3D Mario, Metroid Prime 4, etc at this point. They've all obviously been in development for at least 4 years so there's 0 reason they couldn't have SOMETHING to tease us with by now. And if they did, they wouldn't be functionally skipping their yearly summer direct.
Nintendo hasn't stopped making big internal games, no offense but that's just ridiculous. Mario Kart 9 is probably in development but we're not seeing a new Mario Kart until at least 2024, given they're busy with the DLC until the end of 2023. Metroid Prime 4 will show up when it's ready, presumably alongside Metroid Prime DE/HD. 3D Mario is probably at some point in development, you are however assuming these games have been in development for 4 plus years without any issue, and funnily enough including MP4 with those games, which was rebooted 3 and a half years ago.
 
And the Legacy of Iwata is long gone too. Directs in 2011-2014 were a frequent and great way to communicate with the fans. What Nintendo’s doing lately doesn’t really fit that imo.
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Like I get people don’t like the news of a potential “Mini Partner” but Nintendo has absolutely been communicating with Directs. You just had a game focused one with an Indie showcase not long before that.
 
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I must say though that this is a very different year from 2020. This is a year where Nintendo could easily have recorded a Direct in studio and revealed games for 2023, as they usually do. It’s extremely weird that they’re deciding to separate the announcements and deep dives on upcoming games.

Why is Nintendo holding their cards close the chest? I can’t help but wonder if a hardware announcement might be coming, in which it would make sense to show new trailers along with it to drive hype for the hardware.

I might be reading too much into it, though.
 
I'm just curious now as to why Nintendo would bring back Partner Directs after this long.

Marketing deals with 3rd party devs were signed before E3 got cancelled and Nintendo is honoring this deals.
For their own games they may feel there is no reason to show them now.
 
I gonna laugh so hard and would be so happy if it ending be a General Direct, Maybe their Sources don't know because the Sources they have are 3rd party?
I don't know, I'm not doupting Nate at all, I still hope it's gonna be a Happy end...
 
The flaw with it is how liberal they opt to be with the term "Partner". Fire Emblem, being a KT developed game, could fall under the category.
Would they really reveal the big new mainline FE at a Mini Partner Direct, though? That definitely seems like something they'd save for a general, especially since the big opening reveal of the last general was a FE spinoff.
 
Metroid Prime Remaster has been complete since last year. If there’s no new hardware coming I could see Nintendo announcing it in a September Direct for November or December release. At the end of the day it’s not a brand new title.
 
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