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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 192 57.8%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 39 11.7%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 50 15.1%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 24 7.2%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 27 8.1%
  • Total voters
    332
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BassForever said:
We already know that "no more big games on Switch" is wrong (again) as Legends Z was just announced yesterday for 2025. Legends Arceus is over 14 million copies, odds are Legends Z will >10 million as well.

"But Legends Z could be cross gen"

It can also be playable via bc on the successor, or it could launch before the successor does. Either way it's another big Switch 1 game.
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Semantics, Pokemon isn't a Nintendo game, at least not directly. ;]

And, after Game Freaks somewhat embarrassing stance on Switch early on, i actually could see this being a cross-gen game. A game "not being finished" hasn't stopped Game Freak from releasing it so far, so there's definitely one (or multiple) reasons they're willing to miss out a year this time.
 
Bonejack said:
Semantics, Pokemon isn't a Nintendo game, at least not directly. ;]

And, after Game Freaks somewhat embarrassing stance on Switch early on, i actually could see this being a cross-gen game. A game "not being finished" hasn't stopped Game Freak from releasing it so far, so there's definitely one (or multiple) reasons they're willing to miss out a year this time.
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There's also a theory the 2024 Pokemon game was going to be a Switch 2 exclusive (lets go johto), but since Switch 2 is delayed, LGJ was delayed. GF has never done a cross gen game, and the only time the Pokemon brand has was Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue. GF is historically the last company to make the jump to new hardware see them announcing a Switch 1 exclusive for 2025.

It's more likely Pokemon has a Switch 1 exclusive in 2026 then there being a cross gen Pokemon game.
 
BassForever said:
There's also a theory the 2024 Pokemon game was going to be a Switch 2 exclusive (lets go johto), but since Switch 2 is delayed, LGJ was delayed. GF has never done a cross gen game, and the only time the Pokemon brand has was Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue. GF is historically the last company to make the jump to new hardware see them announcing a Switch 1 exclusive for 2025.

It's more likely Pokemon has a Switch 1 exclusive in 2026 then there being a cross gen Pokemon game.
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Nah. Also, things can change.

Atlus used to not develop multiplatform (mostly), DQ usually was exclusive to the highest selling and most popular system of the gen in Japan. For example.
 
Bonejack said:
Nah. Also, things can change.

Atlus used to not develop multiplatform (mostly), DQ usually was exclusive to the highest selling and most popular system of the gen in Japan. For example.
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I'm willing to meet you half way on this and agree LZ will either be cross gen or advertised as "improved on Switch 2" if you're willing to accept Switch 2 was delayed till 2025.
 
BassForever said:
I'm willing to meet you half way on this and agree LZ will either be cross gen or advertised as "improved on Switch 2" if you're willing to accept Switch 2 was delayed till 2025.
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If March ends without a reveal, or anything more than a little PR announcement, that's the moment i accept the delay.
 
MeowMix said:
Wouldn't it be cool if the Switch 2 dock removed the front panel? That way, you could play tabletop mode and recharge the battery at the same time 🤓
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There's a reason Nintendo designed the docks that way. To make them less prone to accidents. Removing the front and thus making it easier for the console to fall out of the dock is something they will never do.

Darknut85 said:
Same boat, and CMB-CPU X6 popping up in the custom date’d be the final nail in the coffin
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Weren't the rumors that the design/tests are done though?
 
Bonejack said:
There's a reason Nintendo designed the docks that way. To make them less prone to accidents. Removing the front and thus making it easier for the console to fall out of the dock is something they will never do.



Weren't the rumors that the design/tests are done though?
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Well, if they‘ve delayed it few months, they’d probably want to use the time as good as possible and a new revision could still be worth it (even with only marginal improvements), since manufacturing will start a bit later too. It‘s not necessary, but if we got X6 I‘d also swap to #Team H1 2025, same if March ends without an announcement.
 
Mango said:
I kinda hope not. I know that's the precedent, but I had hoped the momentum would carry on into the Switch 2.

Without a Pokemon release tho I'm stumped for what they could have.
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Yeah it don't look too good. I wouldn't expect any big ips. I guess epople should be happy with Pokemon
 
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Sin & Punishment said:
I believe the way it was phrased (this was from Brazil, wasn't it?) was there are no big Switch games coming out this year. I don't think there was anything said about beyond 2024.
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I believe Bone was referencing the comments from last year about TotK being the last "big" Switch game in terms of sales. That's now been doubly wrong.
 
MeowMix said:
Wouldn't it be cool if the Switch 2 dock removed the front panel? That way, you could play tabletop mode and recharge the battery at the same time 🤓
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That wouldn't be tabletop mode though. Any time it's in the dock connected to HDMI, the system is designed to output to docked resolution. This seems like it would create additional headaches swapping from TV to portable, the one thing you shouldn't do with a hybrid.

Side note- what you're trying to do already exists:

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BassForever said:
I believe Bone was referencing the comments from last year about TotK being the last "big" Switch game in terms of sales. That's now been doubly wrong.
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Oh thanks for the clarification. I wasn't familiar with that.

That seems more like uninformed speculation. Anyone last year would've known at least one more Pokemon game would be releasing and that's guaranteed to be a big seller every time.

Brazil, a few weeks ago, said no big Switch games this year and so far that's been true.
 
Sin & Punishment said:
Brazil, a few weeks ago, said no big Switch games this year and so far that's been true.
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Clarification from Brazil :

Just to clarify one particular point, though: at no point have I ever had, and certainly don't currently have, knowledge of the entire line-up of upcoming Nintendo games, so I don't claim to know for a fact that it's all smaller games from now on until the Switch 2 is out. The games I do know about, though, are all what you'd call smaller titles.
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famiboards.com

According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

Oof that would be pretty rough, especially if they don't release anything big in the meantime. Which a potential Partner Showcase isn't a good sign for Though I guess we learned last year that journalist "big" can mean anything up to a new 2D Mario so I guess we're fine
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For Metroid Prime 4 :

If you want my purely guessing-based prediction, though, I fully believe it’s coming out this year on Switch 1.
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Wait did Pyroro just shoot down Endless Ocean? ☹️ Oh well least my disappointment is now instead of Wednesday. I may still be scared of the ocean but I still wanted it announced.
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gadgettendency.com

Samsung has introduced a microSD card with data transfer speeds of up to 800 MB/s. It’s faster than any SATA SSD

Samsung Electronics has introduced the industry’s first microSD memory card supporting SD Express. The data transfer speed of this card reaches an impressive 800 MB/s. This is more than any SATA SSD can provide and is four times faster than UHS-1 cards (up to 200 MB/s). Samsung specifically...
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Just stumbled upon this on reddit. Micro SD cards with SSD speeds? Wonder if that has anything to do with the new Switch?

I don't really frequent the HW thread, so no idea if this is old news but it seems pretty interesting and the timing is kinda perculiar, isn't it?
 
Ylork said:
Clarification from Brazil :



famiboards.com

According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

Oof that would be pretty rough, especially if they don't release anything big in the meantime. Which a potential Partner Showcase isn't a good sign for Though I guess we learned last year that journalist "big" can mean anything up to a new 2D Mario so I guess we're fine
famiboards.com famiboards.com

For Metroid Prime 4 :



famiboards.com

Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST7| It’s Showtime People! Famiboards Productions Proudly Presents: What Lies Beyond The Door? Act II - Rebirth

Wait did Pyroro just shoot down Endless Ocean? ☹️ Oh well least my disappointment is now instead of Wednesday. I may still be scared of the ocean but I still wanted it announced.
famiboards.com famiboards.com
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Thanks for the clarification.

Basically he has no knowledge of Prime 4 then. Since the games he knows about are all smaller titles.
 
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oomoepoo said:
gadgettendency.com

Samsung has introduced a microSD card with data transfer speeds of up to 800 MB/s. It’s faster than any SATA SSD

Samsung Electronics has introduced the industry’s first microSD memory card supporting SD Express. The data transfer speed of this card reaches an impressive 800 MB/s. This is more than any SATA SSD can provide and is four times faster than UHS-1 cards (up to 200 MB/s). Samsung specifically...
gadgettendency.com gadgettendency.com

Just stumbled upon this on reddit. Micro SD cards with SSD speeds? Wonder if that has anything to do with the new Switch?

I don't really frequent the HW thread, so no idea if this is old news but it seems pretty interesting and the timing is kinda perculiar, isn't it?
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It isn't too old, but it is a nice standard and those speeds are much better than what the current switch is capable of.
 
oomoepoo said:
I don't really frequent the HW thread, so no idea if this is old news but it seems pretty interesting and the timing is kinda perculiar, isn't it?
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This post is 5 hours old, so even if it came up in the hardware thread (it did) it would hardly be old. :)

SD Express MicroSD cards don't exist, and not just because the name is awful. The standard is 5 years old, but with phones dropping expandable storage, the market for it just didn't exist. If a company needed these cards to exist, they would absolutely need to convince a manufacturer to bring them to market.

Despite the fact that up till now no one has made these cards, we know that Nvidia made sure they work on Switch 2. So it's certainly possible that this was developed for Nintendo.
 
oldpuck said:
This post is 5 hours old, so even if it came up in the hardware thread (it did) it would hardly be old. :)

SD Express MicroSD cards don't exist, and not just because the name is awful. The standard is 5 years old, but with phones dropping expandable storage, the market for it just didn't exist. If a company needed these cards to exist, they would absolutely need to convince a manufacturer to bring them to market.

Despite the fact that up till now no one has made these cards, we know that Nvidia made sure they work on Switch 2. So it's certainly possible that this was developed for Nintendo.
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Thanks for the insight! Nintendo would certainly be big enough to convince someone to invest into manufacturing such cards I guess. Although wouldn't that lead to a situation similar to the PS Vita where you had to buy expensive proprietary memory cards 🤔 ?
 
oomoepoo said:
Thanks for the insight! Nintendo would certainly be big enough to convince someone to invest into manufacturing such cards I guess. Although wouldn't that lead to a situation similar to the PS Vita where you had to buy expensive proprietary memory cards 🤔 ?
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No, but also yes, but also no.

No, because the SD Express MicroSD (truly the worst name) is an open standard, so anyone could make them, without having to talk to Nintendo. Whoever Samsung's customer is, there is just enough market out there for the cards that they're making a public announcement. That could help drive down costs.

Yes, because Nintendo isn't that big. Assuming half of people buy MicroSD Express cards for their Switch, that's 5-10 million a year in sales, but MicroSD cards themselves, overall, much larger market. So yeah, you'll probably end up paying a premium price for the extra speed that the cards offer.

No, again, because one of the advantages of the Express standard is you can use your existing MicroSD cards in the same slot. Express cards are just faster. Assuming that most games don't require the super fast speeds to work, you should be able to reuse whatever card you're currently using.

The reason to offer something like this is because Nintendo wants game developers to be able to use Super Fast Storage. Nintendo can guarantee the onboard storage is fast, they can make cartridges fast, but there wasn't a good solution to "fast expansion storage" that would work in a handheld.

Resurrecting an old, but failed, standard that is backwards compatible with the old system is probably the best bet
 
512GB Samsung Pro MicroSD card retails for about $40USD on Amazon

1TB SanDisk MicroSD card is about $98USD on Amazon.

What could be an estimated MSRP for these SD Express cards for equivalent data storage? Double, or even triple the cost? Assuming they might not fall in price so rapidly if they're slow to adopt
 
Brofield said:
512GB Samsung Pro MicroSD card retails for about $40USD on Amazon

1TB SanDisk MicroSD card is about $98USD on Amazon.

What could be an estimated MSRP for these SD Express cards for equivalent data storage? Double, or even triple the cost? Assuming they might not fall in price so rapidly if they're slow to adopt
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Well the term "custom" appears ... a lot ... in those reports about that Samsung thing ... almost makes me think you could say it's "proprietary".

And we know from the Vita that "proprietary" equals expensive.

But that's my gut feeling, i know shit about this and how pricing might end up.
 
Steve said:
How so because he seems to have a surprisingly high audience compare to most leaker (example NateTheHate). I'm not very aware of him and i've been hearing a lot of people talking about him with the recent video he made.
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says A LOT of bullshit

like A LOT

and people just focus on what he got right. high audience doesn't mean reputable. it can also mean being a successful snake oil salesman who fails his way up, which is what MLID is
 
ILikeFeet said:
says A LOT of bullshit

like A LOT

and people just focus on what he got right. high audience doesn't mean reputable. it can also mean being a successful snake oil salesman who fails his way up, which is what MLID is
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Makes sense, also thank for answering my question. Was only wondering because a different forum was talking like he's the gospel, makes sense since we still have no new news on the switch 2, hopefully we'll hear something around march.
 
I am started to come around to the "Legends ZA is not only a cross-gen title, but is also the sole first party launch game for next gen, like Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild, and Nintendo delayed next gen to give Game Freak enough time for polish" crowd.

It needs a better and shorter name than mine though.
 
Semi Lazy Gamer said:
I am started to come around to the "Legends ZA is not only a cross-gen title, but is also the sole first party launch game for next gen, like Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild, and Nintendo delayed next gen to give Game Freak enough time for polish" crowd.

It needs a better and shorter name than mine though.
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Every Nintendo system has launched with at least two first party games though. Keep in mind that the Switch launched with BOTW and 1,2 Switch.
 
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