I mean it should be fairly obvious that whoever is developing this is pushing a visual style that's got to be faithful to the original game and so the art direction for this is quite different the Party series.i looks much much worse than any ndcube game
They showed the scene of Bowser yelling at Mario that only he's allowed to kidnap Peach in the reveal trailer. I would be shocked if any of the games goofy moments are cut.
I’m feeling pretty good this is very faithful from the trailers and is being handled with immense care (down to stuff like Peach’s Castle matching the overworld for example). They showed far more of the game than I would have expected which really gave a great sense about what’s the same and what’s been tweaked. Biggest unknown left is the script, but it’s super beloved so I can’t imagine they’d touch too much of it. Only a slight worry on the content that seems a bit spicy for Nintendo today, but eh probably good.
We already know they're using Peach instead of Toadstool from the combat clip of her in the party. I think the biggest question is the Japanese script, as there were more blatant pop culture references to things like Sailor Moon and JoJo.
Ooh didn’t catch that with Peach. I’m cool with that. Also that’s amazing they had anime/manga references in there in the original script. Would love to learn more one day.
Fwiw there is a relocalization hack
Yeah, I've been saying that the two big things missing for me on Switch is a traditional Mario RPG and a new DK. A SMRPG remake is good enough for me to count it as the former. If we get the latter, I will forgive Nintendo forever, until the next time they screw up.I played a good bit of this game but never beat it. I was a Mario RPG kid who loved paper Mario and M&L around 2008-9 and I tried it on Wii VC but it was a bit aged for me to get into. As I got older I was able to get into more retro games, including even Square’s other SNES RPG classics FF6 and Chrono Trigger, but I never went back to it.
This remake just ignited a spark in me that I’d been missing for so long. It’s hitting me that there’s a Mario RPG with unique OCs and story that I’ve just never finished and now it looks modern which just feels surreal. Sure I know the gist of it just from being online in gaming communities but so much of the nitty gritty will be new for me. It feels insane to see something like this and I’m genuinely more excited for this than I am when a brand new Paper Mario game is announced. I’m so happy that this will probably finally scratch that itch that I’ve been missing from Mario for so long
Here's a good article about it:
legendsoflocalization.com
Same. Though a part of me hopes they retain Exor's mouth being called "Neosquid", just for the hell of it.
For those of you who buy games on Amazon for release-day shipping, do they normally do a good job of making that deadline? Or should I stick with my Best Buy in-store pickup preorders?
It's a crapshoot. Sometimes I get it day one, sometimes not until the following Monday or Tuesday, if not later.
Amazon delivered Final Fantasy yesterday, but I haven't used them enough times to have a good sample size.
Canadian prime user here. They ship their games day of release, which , means you may get it the next day from their contract delivery drivers if you are luckly. They usually give me a 2-3 day shipping wait when i put in an order, and i've never held on a to a pre-order that long to see if that's actually what happens or if they end up shipping them to me sooner. I usually just avoid the hassle and pre-order for pickup at Bestbuy or Gamestop. In both cases, i can just pick up day of release and i get to go to the mall for a change.
Like others have said, it's a crapshoot.
Thank you for all the feedback! I used to preorder from Amazon all the time but post-COVID they have definitely become more inconsistent with their delivery. In-store pickup it is! Nobody's stopping me from playing Mario Wonder and Mario RPG day one, haha
Wokeness has claimed Nintendo:
Yeah, I've been saying that the two big things missing for me on Switch is a traditional Mario RPG and a new DK. A SMRPG remake is good enough for me to count it as the former. If we get the latter, I will forgive Nintendo forever, until the next time they screw up.
Here's a good article about it:
Legends of Localization: The Pop Culture-Obsessed Monsters in Japanese Super Mario RPG
The Japanese version of Super Mario RPG is filled with references that were lost in translation.
Geno is the doll character with the blue hat/cape. He has a not too deep, but good enough story and presence. The main thing is he’s just pretty darn cool as most of his attacks see his arms shoot out bullets and rockets and his specials have him shooting lasers, throwing DBZ-like Destructo Disks, and raining down rainbow death beams from the sky. They actually show the latter in the trailer.
Seems like a lock! In Booster Tower if you look at Booster’s toy box there’s a Samus doll in there that I never knew about because of how pixelated it was originally.
He's the Boba Fett of Super Mario. Fans basically invented a personality for him because he doesn't really have one in the game.
Ah okay. I thought it was the little white puffy character but then I saw he's called Mallow and was greatly confused as to where "Geno" came from.
My ideal would be neither of them. I'd take Jonathan Jones and/or Boshi any day over Geno!
You would not care about or notice this if Arlo or whoever didn't make a video about it.
What brand mandate?
Oh I get it. You just want the first two games in the series again.
Battles have been completely different for every single game since the first two games.
As opposed to what? Walking in a line from left to right? What kind of complaint is this
No idea what you're talking about.
No idea what you're talking about
The idea that ndcube is behind this is hilarious. They are a fine developer, but they make stuff like Mario Party and Clubhouse games. Remaking an rpg is really outside of their wheelhouse.
I disliked the aesthetic as soon as I saw watched announcement trailer for Color Splash in 2016. It's pretty presumptuous to say I got my opinion from an eceleb.
The brand mandate that clamped down on creating original characters or designing nonconformist looks for traditional Mario characters, like Toads/Goombas/Koopas/etc. An IP restriction that was confirmed by multiple insiders like Aquamarine, journalists like Imran Khan, and even Nintendo themselves:
Granted, we don't know the specifics. It doesn't seems to apply as much to internally developed games (like Odyssey and Wonder) since they're full of original designs. But even then, those games aren't modifying the base designs of existing characters like Toads/Goombas/Koopas etc, so perhaps that's still off limits. My best guess is external developers can't create original characters that "touch on" (i.e. resemble) the Mario universe, but internal developers can. And modifying the the base designs for generic characters is off limits for everyone.
Yes. They were the best ones.
Yes and that's my point. The Sticker Star Trilogy has diverged so much from the original games that they have almost nothing in common at this point.
It's JRPG level design vs puzzle-focused action adventure level design.
Replay the games, it's just a difference in writing/humor styles. I don't think TOK is poorly written and it has its moments. But I don't like the meta humor and paper jokes as much as the more traditional, less in-your-face comedy of the originals games.
Ask Tanabe, he outright says as much:
I want a sequel to those games that improves and iterates upon their formula and style, correct. They were the best entries and the new games are a disappointing downgrade in every department.
Sorry for having an opinion. I dislike seeing a series I used to love become a shell of it's former shelf.
You know I find it interesting because elaborate story isn't really a restriction put on the Mario games in my opinion. In pretty much every case it seems to be that Nintendo developers do not have a big interest in it and prefer to focus their efforts on the gameplay. Tanabe is one of the rare EPD producers that seems to care about stories in video games alongside Koizumi and I feel like the reason he decide to make simpler ones in Paper Mario going forward (just like Koizumi with 3D Mario) is by simple respect of what Miyamoto told him about it (altho it can be argued Origami King has an actually significant amount of story, and lore on its own, so who knows...).
Agreed. Koizumi and Tanabe are some of the bigger producers that care about stories.
I feel like Miyamoto gave him a favor because he didn't want all the hard work he did to go down the bin. If we do try to look a bit more on Miyamoto's thoughts on story, he doesn't seem to actually mind them as long as they... well don't get any kind of elaborate stuff to them. But we do have multiple interviews/BTS stuff indicating he probably thinks of more elaborate ones as a burden on pure gameplay-concentrated experiences, which, I guess could be argued is true. It has to be able to be resumed in two or three lines and that's it. I personally would take simple stories with a hint of complexity, but a lot of the time, it amounts to Peach has been kidnapped by Bowser, go save her (which I'm glad they're moving away from after the movie with the Peach game and Wonder)There's bit of a common misconception that Koizumi "snuck the Rosalina story behind Miyamoto's back".
It IS true that Koizumi created Rosalina's backstory in his spare time without Miyamoto and the crew knowing...but the thing is, he did present it to Miyamoto and he didn't seem to actually mind it, which is why it was included in the final game.
I feel like some Nintendo fans overthink what Miyamoto is actually thinking lol
Maybe we are. Heh. Seems like a guy who prioritize fun, first and foremost.
The thing is that absolutely no one can call the Rosalina thing a complex story or one that gets in the way of gameplay though. It is in fact the polar opposite of both of those things and I know some folks who flat out never engaged with it due to not knowing about it, so it is super weird for people to think Miyamoto was against it.
