Microsoft is already developing an Xbox version, so they'd just port it. Why would they let them do that? Same reason as thousands of other non-Nintendo games.
The difference is that GoldenEye 007 was a system seller for Nintendo. It's very strongly associated with Nintendo and the N64. There's value in that. Sure, maybe they worked out an agreement so that MS can publish it on Switch. Maybe there's a big revenue share going Nintendo's way. Nintendo does like money, but I doubt they'd let Microsoft control GoldenEye on their own platform.
That’s funny. You may be right. But I’m convinced this will NOT be part of NSO. Even if it is just a rom dump. I personally believe that all the parties will want their piece of the money. EON, Nintendo, MS and I am not sure but Amazon May be involved.
It's the most likely outcome, though. Banjo also is a rom dump on NSO rather than Xbox's better HD remaster.
Your theory is sound, and I understand where you are coming from. I felt after the Nintendo Direct and Mario Kart Dlc, that this is how nintendo will add "value" to NSO going forward and after the 30 or so "leaked N64" games are added, they probably will stop the ROM dumps and add DLC.
I very much doubt this. Goldeneye 64 is 100% Nintendo property. This situation is Nintendo giving something to Microsoft, not the other way around.
You should learn a thing or two about EON and the James Bond rights regarding everything like videogames & movies.
If Nintendo can get the HD remaster without developing anything, that would work out a lot better for them than having a rom dump on NSO. If both versions exist, people are going to be signing up to NSO expansion pack in droves to play the inferior version.
Oh I know about licenses and everything. Nintendo itself own the game but without the license it's nothing they cannot re-release the game. Microsoft and Rare tried to remaster the game for Xbox 360 but since Nintendo is the sole owner of the game they blocked the re-release stating "A Nintendo game cannot appear on other consoles". (that person was believed to be Iwata). Nintendo never bothered to negotiate with EON again for a re-release, might have thought it wasn't worth it but by the looks of it they do now.
Nintendo has published many third party games' Switch versions--I'm sure they could do that with a GoldenEye remaster too if it was a sticking point. Specifically rejecting any remastered version seems like shooting oneself in the foot, leaving MS with the better version just to give slightly more attention to the nostalgia version.
I think this is a pretty different case. Banjo remaster came out 13+ years ago on Xbox and been available since, so it becoming available again another way isn't such a big deal. It also isn't currently/recently in development, so porting it would be a whole new thing versus a modern GoldenEye remaster which could be built towards multiplatform from the start.
That's true but the point there is Nintendo being ok with the re-release being NSO N64 app only.
Buuuut unless they get MS to cancel the Xbox version, that's not happening.
but Nintendo has no control over Banjo. MS apparently needs them in order to release this remaster of GE, so Nintendo can make sure it's on their console as well. BK was just solely owned by MS at this point and Nintendo has no cards to play.
I’m not saying it’s a sticking point, I’m saying that’s not what Nintendo wants for N64 games, so if they have the choice (and they would), they’d prefer to put the N64 ROM on NSO.
That's just how the apps work. Kind of like how they didn't port the Mario All-Stars versions of the Mario games to the NES app, because they're not on NES. They then ported them with the SNES app. Nintendo can add a DS or 3DS app for the games you mentioned, but they aren't going to add any Xbox apps to get Goldeneye. If Nintendo does in fact have a choice, there is no way they're going to go with a far inferior version that will absolutely be much less popular. It's possible they end up doing both however.
I don't understand your point here with the apps. No, they can't bring SNES games to the NES app or add an Xbox app. My point was about how we keep expecting things for no reason that Nintendo never delivers.
My point about the apps is that they're simply putting N64 games on the N64 app. You're saying they have superior versions of Mario 64 (def not superior), Zelda OoT and Star Fox, not a single person expects those games on the N64 app because they're DS and 3DS games. Those will come to their respective apps if/when they arrive.
Plopping SM64, Zelda, Star Fox into an emulator is much easier than porting DS/3DS versions back to Switch, yes. But they also weren't allowing Microsoft to develop and release competing 2020s versions while rejecting a multiplatform release of them.
We might have similar expectations. I'm not expecting Nintendo to DEVELOP the Switch version of Goldeneye, I'm expecting MS to do it. If Nintendo has to do it then I'd agree they'd go with the NSO version because that's within the scope of what they're willing to do.
. Lots of games play better on Xbox. There's N64 games on Switch that have better versions on other Nintendo platforms. There are games on Switch that played better on Wii U.
No one owns a Wii U and not one will buy it to play N64 games. Switch is their current console, so that's what people will play. Tons of games do play better on Xbox (and PS) and many of those games outsell their Switch counterparts. Games where performance isn't a big issue seem to do better on Switch (like indie games) and bigger games trend in the other direction.I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that
Yeah I thought you were referring to what people wanted to play rather than what Nintendo was willing to do.
Fair enough. I think we agree that both Nintendo and Microsoft will decide what's best for their business, but I still think that when it comes to N64 games Nintendo would rather use them to drive $50/year subscriptions to NSO.
Is there something special about March 8? I'm not sure I follow. I mean, everything that happens will either be before March 8 or on/after it.
Nintendo's social media went dark early into the invasion. I have no doubt that F-Zero was always the intended releases.
Yeah and they’re still only adding N64 games that were promised in the original announcement.
