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gnetc said:
Don’t worry guys they’ll tell us at the investor meeting that they will give us more details in March… Right?
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Eh. It'll come when it comes. All jokes aside, I'm excited for the system and all of tech powering it, but I can wait. It's this year, and that's good enough for me.

I just think the idea of marching into another company's investors' meeting and going "Ayy chief you hear anything about the Switch 2?" is fucking hilarious. I mean I get it; if Nintendo won't give you anything, try to get the info from somewhere else (although ig bro forgot NDAs exist???), but it's still funny.
 
Now that you mention it, it IS funny that a third party developer executive is getting asked about the next hot console to release lmao

It also goes to show how secretive Nintendo can be
 
gnetc said:
Don’t worry guys they’ll tell us at the investor meeting that they will give us more details in March… Right?
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Shuntaro Furukawa: Nintendo is always looking/working into new technologies for future hardware, sorry i cant comment now on future hardware plans, stay tuned for future information regarding Switch, proceed with this ad eternum
 
kingman said:
Thanks. Is it possible for developers to disable RT while in handheld mode?


I would highly doubt it, honestly. Even if Switch 2/3/4/etc. don't sell nearly as well as the Switch, DS, 3DS or even Gameboy Advance, the fact that people want a handheld would give Nintendo a guaranteed number of high sales. Something that is absolutely NOT guaranteed if they release a separate console. Plus, this current paradigm allows them to consolidate all their teams to one platform and thus won't be spreading their developers too thin.

Personally, I'm fine with them going in this direction for the reasons mentioned above, even though I am saddened that doing so will always limit their system's power in comparison to the competition.
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They can turn it off, but you would already break the parity between modes, p3 reload has RT on series X but it has it turn it off in Series S is not a significance thing but it will look weird going from a game with RT to a game without it once you undock the switch so is pretty likely that either the game has RT in both modes or neither of them
 
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lattjeful said:
Nintendo is taking so long to announce this thing that other companies are being asked about it in investor Q&As

El-oh-fucking-el.
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Meanwhile in shareholder land:

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So are we sure that those 8 inch LCD displays aren't going to be used in a budget priced Switch XL model that launches in September for like $199.99? Sort of how we got that ugly fisher price looking 2DS near the end of the 3DS lifetime?

I made a joke about Nintendo giving us this instead of a Switch 2 over in the Direct thread but the more I actually thought about it, the more it sounded like something I could see actually happening.

I think the Investor Meeting and hopefully a Direct will give us hints toward a Switch 2 or if the Switcg lineup this year looks full and healthy after the next Direct, I may be inclined to believe we aren't getting a Switch 2 this year after all. I hope I'm wrong!
 
Kevin said:
So are we sure that those 8 inch LCD displays aren't going to be used in a budget priced Switch XL model that launches in September for like $199.99? Sort of how we got that ugly fisher price looking 2DS near the end of the 3DS lifetime?

I made a joke about Nintendo giving us this instead of a Switch 2 over in the Direct thread but the more I actually thought about it, the more it sounded like something I could see actually happening.

I think the Investor Meeting and hopefully a Direct will give us hints toward a Switch 2 or if the Switcg lineup this year looks full and healthy after the next Direct, I may be inclined to believe we aren't getting a Switch 2 this year after all. I hope I'm wrong!
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Given the aforementioned bezel issue, they'd have to make an entirely new case to accommodate an 8" (technically 7.91" but whatever) screen, which doesn't exactly sound "budget" to me.
 
Erika said:
Funcles were accurate OLED model leakers.
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What details did they leak other than an OLED model exists?

Am curious what we would have learned of Switch successor from those hypothetical leaks. We know a successor is coming, but what else would we potentially learn from the "funcles"?
 
From EA I am only excited for Respawn Entertainment output (nowdays they are their best studio, hopefully Star Wars Jedi duology come sooner than later in Switch 2) but can't be blind to admit their portfolio of IPs (Dead Space, Battlefield, Dragon Age, FC/NFL/NHL/UFC/etc, Mass Effect, Sims, Need for Speed, Codemasters titles) are a great benefit for western markets and big appeal for non-hardcore gamers. Thus, its good priority for Nintendo to secure those titles same day as other systems. (Same with Ubisoft)
 
darthdiablo said:
What details did they leak other than an OLED model exists?

Am curious what we would have learned of Switch successor from those hypothetical leaks. We know a successor is coming, but what else would we potentially learn from the "funcles"?
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I don’t remember. Maybe some size/form description.

If nvidia leak doesn’t exist, the most valuable information we could get from funcles is the next Nintendo console is still a switch, a tablet with 2 joycons.
 
Kevin said:
So are we sure that those 8 inch LCD displays aren't going to be used in a budget priced Switch XL model that launches in September for like $199.99? Sort of how we got that ugly fisher price looking 2DS near the end of the 3DS lifetime?

I made a joke about Nintendo giving us this instead of a Switch 2 over in the Direct thread but the more I actually thought about it, the more it sounded like something I could see actually happening.

I think the Investor Meeting and hopefully a Direct will give us hints toward a Switch 2 or if the Switcg lineup this year looks full and healthy after the next Direct, I may be inclined to believe we aren't getting a Switch 2 this year after all. I hope I'm wrong!
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the fact that they’re 1080p kind of rules that out.
 
LoneRanger said:
From EA I am only excited for Respawn Entertainment output (nowdays they are their best studio, hopefully Star Wars Jedi duology come sooner than later in Switch 2) but can't be blind to admit their portfolio of IPs (Dead Space, Battlefield, Dragon Age, FC/NFL/NHL/UFC/etc, Mass Effect, Sims, Need for Speed, Codemasters titles) are a great benefit for western markets and big appeal for non-hardcore gamers. Thus, its good priority for Nintendo to secure those titles same day as other systems. (Same with Ubisoft)
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the thing with Respawn is that they need to slow down. Cook their next Star Wars Jedi game a little longer. I think EA is trying to milk them too much.
 
SunnyDays said:
I really want VR to take off, but it just feels like nobody's really putting in investment enough to have groundbreaking products that really justify VR. So much of what the space celebrates amounts to mere amusement park "experiences". Beat Saber is fantastic, and fully justifies and proves that VR can have awesome experiences that don't really fit elsewhere (even on a motion controlled flat-panel platform like the wii), but beyond that? Heck, even Alyx ended up getting a Desktop mode mod.

I want to love VR, but a lot of it just feels to me like regular video games getting VR tacked on and made worse and less convenient to play.
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Perhaps the tech isn't there yet to truly take advantage of what VR has to offer? Either that, or we just have to wait for some developer to come along and do something truly unique (if that hasn't happened already, that is, I don't really follow the VR scene). Bringing the topic back to Nintendo, I suspect we'll see some sort of sequel/spiritual successor to Labo that will showcase VR's potential, even if the tech present may not be as advanced as PSVR or Quest.

Reminds me of an old video regarding Nintendo and VR that I found interesting. Perhaps we can expect something of this ilk in the future?

 
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lattjeful said:
Nintendo is taking so long to announce this thing that other companies are being asked about it in investor Q&As

El-oh-fucking-el.
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Has Squeenix been asked yet?! WILL YUJI HORII SPILL THE BEANS AGAIN, AS WAS PROPHESIED?!?!?!?!
 
New article from Bloomberg about investors and analysts believing stock is overvalued for Nintendo and Switch 2 won't be able to keep up with Switch success no matter what. Also Mochi mentions on Twitter that he has no clue about Switch 2 as of now.

Interested to hear @Shareholder Chad 's opinion on this. (I tend to agree with it personally.)

www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo’s Record Gain Tested in Wait for ‘Switch 2’: Tech Watch

Nintendo Co.’s recent climb to a record high is looking increasingly stretched as investors wait for news on the successor to its aging Switch game console.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
 
thegodsend said:
New article from Bloomberg about investors and analysts believing stock is overvalued for Nintendo and Switch 2 won't be able to keep up with Switch success no matter what. Also Mochi mentions on Twitter that he has no clue about Switch 2 as of now.

Interested to hear @Shareholder Chad 's opinion on this. (I tend to agree with it personally.)

www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo’s Record Gain Tested in Wait for ‘Switch 2’: Tech Watch

Nintendo Co.’s recent climb to a record high is looking increasingly stretched as investors wait for news on the successor to its aging Switch game console.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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If anyone thinks the Switch 2 will replicate the Switch's success... Well they need to change their expectations. Nintendo is like the only major game company to not lay anyone off in the great game dev purge right? I think they understand the pandemic caused once-in-a-lifetime success, but I'm not sure if shareholders will be as understanding.
 
carbvan said:
If anyone thinks the Switch 2 will replicate the Switch's success... Well they need to change their expectations. Nintendo is like the only major game company to not lay anyone off in the great game dev purge right? I think they understand the pandemic caused once-in-a-lifetime success, but I'm not sure if shareholders will be as understanding.
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I think it could be expected to break 100m lifetime though. If nothing else, carry on the Switch admirably, even if it doesn't have a pandemic to bolster it's sales.
 
I mean, yeah Switch 2 will struggle to sell Switch 1 units for sure. But there is always the multimedia thing. Nintendo still gets some proceeds from those and there is room to grow.
 
bmfrosty said:
I think it could be expected to break 100m lifetime though. If nothing else, carry on the Switch admirably, even if it doesn't have a pandemic to bolster it's sales.
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I think 100m is doable, but line must go up so there's bound to be people who don't see 140m+ sales as a success.
 
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Kevin said:
So are we sure that those 8 inch LCD displays aren't going to be used in a budget priced Switch XL model that launches in September for like $199.99? Sort of how we got that ugly fisher price looking 2DS near the end of the 3DS lifetime?
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There are few things that I'm 100% on, but this is one of them. Nintendo won't be putting an 8" 1080p LCD into a Switch XL. The Switch is 720p, 8" 1080p LCDs aren't an off-the-shelf product. Nintendo wouldn't have a custom screen designed at the wrong resolution.

VGC says "Hey, developers are saying maybe an LCD." Immediately we get a rumor that says "7.91in LCD from Tianma and Innolux." Months later, analyst who covers small-to-medium screen producers (like Tianma and Innolux) says Nintendo is planning on buying something like 14 million 8 inch LCDs for their new system launching for the holiday. Then a customs record is turned up for a 7.91 inch Innolux LCD being shipped to the Nvidia branch in India working on the Switch 2 prototype, marked as "for development and testing purposes."

It's a shitload of smoke.

Side note: man, Nintendo, if you give us an OLED model later, it better be smaller.

ziggyrivers said:
I wonder how the speculation would have behaved if we hadn't had the Nvidia leak
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D36 said:
I've never been on NeoGaf, but I'm assuming something close to WUST, which I have heard nothing but bad things about?
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I wasn't around for WUST, but I skimmed it in a fit of idleness awhile back. I doubt it would be that bad.

The chip name got leaked, even if the Nvidia hack hadn't happened. Which would have lead to the Linux commits the same way they did in this timeline. If no chip name had been released, I think the datamining community would have figured it out, but it probably wouldn't have crossed over to here, as they play their cards a bit closer to their chest.

But @Dakhil basically had it right from the beginning - he saw Orin coming, figured Nintendo would replicate the formfactor, and that Orin would be the technological basis, and that DLSS would be the killer feature. He had that basically in 2019.

WUST had the Wii to go on, and was speculating on a "Wii HD." While a couple people might have thought of second screen gaming from the DS/3DS, I think basically no one banked on a second reboot of the formfactor to eat up costs. And in the WUST era, console GPUs and CPUs were still using weird bespoke designs, and off-the-shell SOCs were still in their relative infancy.

More info, a saner community (mostly ;) ), a more predictable Nintendo (again, mostly) in a far more standardized tech environment. I mean, let's not count our chickens until they're leaked by Digital Foundry, but I don't think WUST was ever on the table.
 
oldpuck said:
There are few things that I'm 100% on, but this is one of them. Nintendo won't be putting an 8" 1080p LCD into a Switch XL. The Switch is 720p, 8" 1080p LCDs aren't an off-the-shelf product. Nintendo wouldn't have a custom screen designed at the wrong resolution.

VGC says "Hey, developers are saying maybe an LCD." Immediately we get a rumor that says "7.91in LCD from Tianma and Innolux." Months later, analyst who covers small-to-medium screen producers (like Tianma and Innolux) says Nintendo is planning on buying something like 14 million 8 inch LCDs for their new system launching for the holiday. Then a customs record is turned up for a 7.91 inch Innolux LCD being shipped to the Nvidia branch in India working on the Switch 2 prototype, marked as "for development and testing purposes."

It's a shitload of smoke.

Side note: man, Nintendo, if you give us an OLED model later, it better be smaller.



I wasn't around for WUST, but I skimmed it in a fit of idleness awhile back. I doubt it would be that bad.

The chip name got leaked, even if the Nvidia hack hadn't happened. Which would have lead to the Linux commits the same way they did in this timeline. If no chip name had been released, I think the datamining community would have figured it out, but it probably wouldn't have crossed over to here, as they play their cards a bit closer to their chest.

But @Dakhil basically had it right from the beginning - he saw Orin coming, figured Nintendo would replicate the formfactor, and that Orin would be the technological basis, and that DLSS would be the killer feature. He had that basically in 2019.

WUST had the Wii to go on, and was speculating on a "Wii HD." While a couple people might have thought of second screen gaming from the DS/3DS, I think basically no one banked on a second reboot of the formfactor to eat up costs. And in the WUST era, console GPUs and CPUs were still using weird bespoke designs, and off-the-shell SOCs were still in their relative infancy.

More info, a saner community (mostly ;) ), a more predictable Nintendo (again, mostly) in a far more standardized tech environment. I mean, let's not count our chickens until they're leaked by Digital Foundry, but I don't think WUST was ever on the table.
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Thanks for the feedback. In oldpuck I trust. Also welcome back! :)
 
Atheerios said:
What WiFi generation do you guys think Nintendo will implement? Crossing my fingers they can get WiFi 7 in time, but honestly doubt it.
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6, I'm betting. They used a combined BlueTooth/WiFi module from Broadcom for the Switch. Broadcom has a WiFi 6 module that succeeds it, but their WiFi 7 module is still listed as in "preliminary" stages, and while there are some products out there that are compliant with the likely standard, I don't think it's set for ratification till the end of this year.

This is probably the actual hardware that will be used.
 
thegodsend said:
New article from Bloomberg about investors and analysts believing stock is overvalued for Nintendo and Switch 2 won't be able to keep up with Switch success no matter what. Also Mochi mentions on Twitter that he has no clue about Switch 2 as of now.

Interested to hear @Shareholder Chad 's opinion on this. (I tend to agree with it personally.)

www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo’s Record Gain Tested in Wait for ‘Switch 2’: Tech Watch

Nintendo Co.’s recent climb to a record high is looking increasingly stretched as investors wait for news on the successor to its aging Switch game console.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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While they’re likely right that the next system won’t do what the Switch did, Nintendo has changed a ton since the release of the Switch overall. There wasn’t any movies or theme parks to speak of, like Nintendo said themselves they’re trying to become an entertainment company not just a gaming company.

I’m really not sure why they don’t include that into future growth prospects, yes the new console is a huge deal but it’s not the only thing they’re relying on anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Universal park becomes way bigger than anyone is anticipating.
 
thegodsend said:
New article from Bloomberg about investors and analysts believing stock is overvalued for Nintendo and Switch 2 won't be able to keep up with Switch success no matter what. Also Mochi mentions on Twitter that he has no clue about Switch 2 as of now.

Interested to hear @Shareholder Chad 's opinion on this. (I tend to agree with it personally.)

www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo’s Record Gain Tested in Wait for ‘Switch 2’: Tech Watch

Nintendo Co.’s recent climb to a record high is looking increasingly stretched as investors wait for news on the successor to its aging Switch game console.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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Who cares?
 
thegodsend said:
New article from Bloomberg about investors and analysts believing stock is overvalued for Nintendo and Switch 2 won't be able to keep up with Switch success no matter what. Also Mochi mentions on Twitter that he has no clue about Switch 2 as of now.

Interested to hear @Shareholder Chad 's opinion on this. (I tend to agree with it personally.)

www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo’s Record Gain Tested in Wait for ‘Switch 2’: Tech Watch

Nintendo Co.’s recent climb to a record high is looking increasingly stretched as investors wait for news on the successor to its aging Switch game console.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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Not saying it‘ll outsell Switch, but these people were already wrong on the Switch. The cycle of analysts.
 
anybody else think a 12 or 13 inch screen tablet would actually be better

I'd actually love something in a roughly laptop shape that slides into a laptop pocket in a backpack or a laptop bag and is strictly played in tabletop

some sort of thin controller would be nice for that configuration. maybe something that unfolds
 
yes such a switch would be like twice the price but ugh whatever y'know

I'd pay for it, leave it for the hardcore fans
 
Raccoon said:
anybody else think a 12 or 13 inch screen tablet would actually be better

I'd actually love something in a roughly laptop shape that slides into a laptop pocket in a backpack or a laptop bag and is strictly played in tabletop

some sort of thin controller would be nice for that configuration. maybe something that unfolds
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A Switch 2 XL that's a side bump comparable to 3ds to 3ds XL wouldn't work, but I think this could if they do go down that route. Would be tough making a dock and accessories for it tho.
 
oldpuck said:
6, I'm betting. They used a combined BlueTooth/WiFi module from Broadcom for the Switch. Broadcom has a WiFi 6 module that succeeds it, but their WiFi 7 module is still listed as in "preliminary" stages, and while there are some products out there that are compliant with the likely standard, I don't think it's set for ratification till the end of this year.

This is probably the actual hardware that will be used.
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Dumb question, but if Switch 2 got WiFi 6/6E, if a Switch 2 Pro came along could it justify WiFi 7 if they wanted to upgrade that part? Or would require games to have a whole other online protocol thing to take full advantage of data speeds?
 
Atheerios said:
What WiFi generation do you guys think Nintendo will implement? Crossing my fingers they can get WiFi 7 in time, but honestly doubt it.
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Most likely 6.
They'll probably use the BCM4375 (Wi-Fi 6 / BT5.x) from Boradcom as it seems an updated version of the one they are currently using on Switch (BCM4356). Or they could maybe use the BCM4389 (Wi-Fi 6E / BT5.x) but I doubt it as it seems just extra cost for no real reason* (plus it's newer so less time to test it?).

www.broadcom.com

BCM4375

The BCM4375 simultaneously implements two streams of 802
www.broadcom.com www.broadcom.com

www.broadcom.com

BCM4389

Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.0 combo chip designed for ultra-low power mobile device applications
www.broadcom.com www.broadcom.com

Edit: * aside from potentially better battery life

Edit 2: Changed Bluetooth version to 5.x refer to this comment: https://famiboards.com/threads/futu...-staff-posts-before-commenting.55/post-974210

honestly I waste too much time and effort doing research before and after posting something
 
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NateDrake said:
Dave got a boost of "credibility" for reading LinkedIn profiles and saying Prime 4 would release this year... something that was said throughout 2023... and used that to say Switch 2 is using a Samsung SoC equipped with an AMD GPU. ffs.
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Wait what?! Are you telling me that honest Dave is lying that Switch 2 is using an AMD Gpu on Samsung node???

🤪🤪🤪
 
carbvan said:
If anyone thinks the Switch 2 will replicate the Switch's success... Well they need to change their expectations. Nintendo is like the only major game company to not lay anyone off in the great game dev purge right? I think they understand the pandemic caused once-in-a-lifetime success, but I'm not sure if shareholders will be as understanding.
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I mean, the Switch is likely at 140 million units sold, almost at PS2/DS level, even Sony hasn't been able to outsell the PS2.

It's kind of annoying but if the Switch 2 only sells 100 million people will call it a failure.
 
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Raccoon said:
anybody else think a 12 or 13 inch screen tablet would actually be better

I'd actually love something in a roughly laptop shape that slides into a laptop pocket in a backpack or a laptop bag and is strictly played in tabletop

some sort of thin controller would be nice for that configuration. maybe something that unfolds
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Going from TeamSameSize to TeamFuckinHuge, huh? All or nothing? Gonna leave me alone down here, I guess.

Seriously though, yeah context matters! If you're buying a handheld it aughta have a certain smallness and portability to it, but if you're buying Nintendo Laptop™ that's a whole other set of expectations and is actually a neater idea imo than Switch-but-more-bigger.

You may be on to something here.


Also, sorry but I gotta:
Raccoon said:
if it's not thicker it could just slot into the dock like a little man with a big hat
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