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Zelda isn't just for the pre-established Nintendo fanbase at this point, though. It's a 30m+ per entry series now.BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
Zelda isn't just for the pre-established Nintendo fanbase at this point, though. It's a 30m+ per entry series now.BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
It’s the biggest wild card for sure. Hard to imagine a mech game bring a huge hit, but we’re in the midst of a CRPG going mainstream so anything’s possible. Would probably drop FFXVI if it does squeeze in, if I had to guess.Here's a question: Do you guys think Armored Core is going to get a nomination?
For the overall metrics it has going for it ... My best guess is that it won't be quite as much of a breakout as Baldur's Gate 3, but that discussion around it will be very similar (maybe less of a blindside for console oriented players though). Unpopular franchise in """niche""" genre gets a new entry after a long period of time that reviews well and sells well and is a big hit (in this case, relative to the series). I don't think it sells nearly as well as Baldur's Gate, but it's also a more niche genre so.
I don't know, in a year with a lot of FFXVI / Spider-Man 2's / Street Fighter 6's, I wouldn't be that surprised if Armored Core sneaks in there and replaces one of the more iterative / derivative games. Even if it's less well-received.
I’m all for Larian getting a slam dunk hit, and I’m a fair bit lower on Tears of the Kingdom than most of this board. But come on now.BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
I could see it going either way. FromSoft is great, but this is very different from their usual output for the past decade, and even then previous AC games got a pretty tepid reception.Here's a question: Do you guys think Armored Core is going to get a nomination?
For the overall metrics it has going for it ... My best guess is that it won't be quite as much of a breakout as Baldur's Gate 3, but that discussion around it will be very similar (maybe less of a blindside for console oriented players though). Unpopular franchise in """niche""" genre gets a new entry after a long period of time that reviews well and sells well and is a big hit (in this case, relative to the series). I don't think it sells nearly as well as Baldur's Gate, but it's also a more niche genre so.
I don't know, in a year with a lot of FFXVI / Spider-Man 2's / Street Fighter 6's, I wouldn't be that surprised if Armored Core sneaks in there and replaces one of the more iterative / derivative games. Even if it's less well-received.
I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?It’s the biggest wild card for sure. Hard to imagine a mech game bring a huge hit, but we’re in the midst of a CRPG going mainstream so anything’s possible. Would probably drop FFXVI if it does squeeze in, if I had to guess.
I’m all for Larian getting a slam dunk hit, and I’m a fair bit lower on Tears of the Kingdom than most of this board. But come on now.
Calling it just for Nintendo fans is uhhhh......BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
Okay, that is not fair to say... it is a great game but I think a bit overinflated?Calling it just for Nintendo fans is uhhhh......
It sold 18 million copies in under two months and currently is the second highest reviewed game to come out this year. It's not overinflated.Okay, that is not fair to say... it is a great game but I think a bit overinflated?
Obviously profitableIt sold 18 million copies in under two months and currently is the second highest reviewed game to come out this year. It's not overinflated.
What kinda conspiracy nonsense is this? Nothing about this is "orchestrated". It's a great game that tons of people adore. It probably won't be my pick for GOTY, but it would 100% deserve the win if it does get it.I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?
What? No. The game is good. Nothing is orchestrated about it.I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?
I believe Xythereal meant "biased" in this context.What? No. The game is good. Nothing is orchestrated about it.
It's not biased either.I believe Xythereal meant "biased" in this context.
Look, and I’m not trying to attack you or anything here, but you have 20 posts on this entire forum and literally all of them are in this thread praising BG3 and trying to downplay and backhand-compliment basically every other game. Which is fine and you’re entitled to your opinion but… maybe dial it back a bit? We get it.BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
I'm afraid that in this year when you have BG3 and Starfield in all the RPG categories, Octopath 2 is going to be largely forgotten when it comes to awards. And that's not even including FF16 (which I largely agree with you about). Just feels like Octopath 2 has little chance of winning much of anything. Same with Chained Echoes (since it came out in December 2022 it counts for this year's awards for most outlets).If there was any justice in the world, Octopath 2 would take every nomination that's supposed to be going to FF16
It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)I'm afraid that in this year when you have BG3 and Starfield in all the RPG categories, Octopath 2 is going to be largely forgotten when it comes to awards. And that's not even including FF16 (which I largely agree with you about). Just feels like Octopath 2 has little chance of winning much of anything. Same with Chained Echoes (since it came out in December 2022 it counts for this year's awards for most outlets).
Chained Echoes might be able to nab some Indie categories, but you're right Sea of Stars will probably take those spots, if it's good. My main hope is that Octopath 2 at least gets a best music nomination, as it's still my pick for best OST this year so far.It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)
That's my feeling too. Diablo 4 and FF16 both have cooled quite a bit in the critical and general public sense, it seems like from what I'm seeing lately. Releasing BG3 early in early August and giving it a full month pre-Starfield has been a massive success for Larian and really given it a lot more exposure than it might have had otherwise.Yeah I am leaning towards BG3 getting a nom here, certainly over Diablo 4 at least. I haven't seen the conversation around a game like this since Elden Ring (and TOTK but that was more expected).
I think FF16 will still get nominated because of brand recognition and genre bias (a cinematic single player RPG is more likely to get nominated than say, Street Fighter 6), but who knows what's in store for the rest of the year.That's my feeling too. Diablo 4 and FF16 both have cooled quite a bit in the critical and general public sense, it seems like from what I'm seeing lately. Releasing BG3 early in early August and giving it a full month pre-Starfield has been a massive success for Larian and really given it a lot more exposure than it might have had otherwise.
Spider-man 2FF16 will get in as the de facto Sony entry if nothing else
Right now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)
If I was in charge, I'd up the number of minimum noms per category from 5 to 6It'd be really funny if they expanded the number of noms just to accommodate how insane this year has been.
tbh that's the most reasonable baldur gate fanboy I've seenLook, and I’m not trying to attack you or anything here, but you have 20 posts on this entire forum and literally all of them are in this thread praising BG3 and trying to downplay and backhand-compliment basically every other game. Which is fine and you’re entitled to your opinion but… maybe dial it back a bit? We get it.
Probably old votes that were never changed. We're only two years off from Arkane having a GOTY nominee.It is interesting that Redfall has 7 votes but somehow still isn't even the lowest option on the poll.
Why would FFXVI not be in the RPG category as well? Just because Octopath is more of an RPG? Branding is just as important for categories and most judges are probably people that still remember when Final Fantasy was the defacto console RPGRight now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:
-Baldur's Gate 3
-Diablo 4
-Octopath Traveler 2
-Sea of Stars
-Starfield
FF16 will be relegated to "Best Action Game". The win will either go to Starfield or BG3.
Right, let's not forget that Sifu got into that Fighting Game category last year. FF16 will probably still get in there even though the RPG elements are lighter than usual.Why would FFXVI not be in the RPG category as well? Just because Octopath is more of an RPG? Branding is just as important for categories and most judges are probably people that still remember when Final Fantasy was the defacto console RPG
Think you quoted the wrong post but I know what you're referring to lol.Probably old votes that were never changed. We're only two years off from Arkane having a GOTY nominee.
It obviously flopped hard, but it had a better chance than Dead Island 2 ever did.
If FF gets nominated, it will for sure be in the RPG category. I don’t think people quite understand that TGA goes off the genre the developer/publisher lists the game as, not what normal people think it should be considered.Right now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:
-Baldur's Gate 3
-Diablo 4
-Octopath Traveler 2
-Sea of Stars
-Starfield
FF16 will be relegated to "Best Action Game". The win will either go to Starfield or BG3.
If we're being honest, it might be the move for the longterm. 2023 is incredible, but I think that has more to do with the industry finally hitting its stride again after COVID more than anything. Just looking at 2024 right now:It'd be really funny if they expanded the number of noms just to accommodate how insane this year has been.
3 games that we have little reference to what the actual reception will be yet?ff16 is almost definitely getting locked out of goty. spiderman 2, armored core and starfield will keep out of the running. its just way too mid for this year.
If this board picked the nominees, then yes FF16 would likely come in around 73rd place right below Gollum. Outside this bubble, including critics like you say, it's been really well regarded. Hell the User Score on Metacritic is pretty much the same as it is for TOTK.I feel like this board has a pretty significant disconnect when it comes to FFXVI. We're not the ones voting in the nominees. Critics are, and they loved it.
I'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut.
Yeah it's ridiculous. What surprises me most of all especially is the fact that some people think FFXVI has no chance but thar Spider-Man 2 is a lock. Frankly even if Spider-Man 2 reviews higher, FFXVI being a reinvention of the franchise with a mature story is a big thing going for it. Right now I'd put both at about as likely to be nominated, with XVI being a bit more likely. The one ball in Spider-Man 2's court is that it is launching closer to the Game Awards, so it will probably be in critics consciousness more.I feel like this board has a pretty significant disconnect when it comes to FFXVI. We're not the ones voting in the nominees. Critics are, and they loved it.
I'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut.
I'm not saying thinking 16 might not get nominated is ridiculous. People have been talking about that possibility for multiple pages and no one objected. I actually think that could happen and it's a fairly reasonable prediction. I think saying that it's almost certainly getting locked out because it's so mid is the ridiculous part. As someone who does think the game is kind of mid, that's just not how criticis viewed the title, hence its kind of a silly and ridiculous take.Particularly with how strong the competition is this year I’m not sure what’s so ridiculous about suggesting it might not get nominated.
There’s absolutely no guarantee Armored Core will get nominated. It’s a niche series in a rather unpopular genre.ff16 is almost definitely getting locked out of goty. spiderman 2, armored core and starfield will keep out of the running. its just way too mid for this year.