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Discussion What will be the 6 GOTY nominations at The Game Awards 2023?

(PICK 6) What will be the 6 GOTY nominations at The Game Awards 2023?

  • Fire Emblem Engage

    Votes: 10 1.9%

  • Dead Space

    Votes: 22 4.2%

  • Resident Evil 4

    Votes: 329 62.8%

  • Dead Island 2

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Star Wars Jedi: Survivor

    Votes: 98 18.7%

  • Redfall

    Votes: 7 1.3%

  • The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

    Votes: 516 98.5%

  • Street Fighter 6

    Votes: 129 24.6%

  • Diablo 4

    Votes: 184 35.1%

  • Final Fantasy 16

    Votes: 386 73.7%

  • Hollow Knight: Silksong

    Votes: 114 21.8%

  • Pikmin 4

    Votes: 28 5.3%

  • Starfield

    Votes: 418 79.8%

  • Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon

    Votes: 94 17.9%

  • Assassin’s Creed Mirage

    Votes: 11 2.1%

  • Marvel’s Spider-Man 2

    Votes: 383 73.1%

  • Other (comment below)

    Votes: 31 5.9%

  • (edit) Super Mario Bros. Wonder

    Votes: 49 9.4%

  • (edit) Baldur's Gate 3

    Votes: 85 16.2%

  • (edit) Hi-Fi Rush

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Total voters
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Here's a question: Do you guys think Armored Core is going to get a nomination?

For the overall metrics it has going for it ... My best guess is that it won't be quite as much of a breakout as Baldur's Gate 3, but that discussion around it will be very similar (maybe less of a blindside for console oriented players though). Unpopular franchise in """niche""" genre gets a new entry after a long period of time that reviews well and sells well and is a big hit (in this case, relative to the series). I don't think it sells nearly as well as Baldur's Gate, but it's also a more niche genre so.

I don't know, in a year with a lot of FFXVI / Spider-Man 2's / Street Fighter 6's, I wouldn't be that surprised if Armored Core sneaks in there and replaces one of the more iterative / derivative games. Even if it's less well-received.
 
AngryAlchemist said:
Here's a question: Do you guys think Armored Core is going to get a nomination?

For the overall metrics it has going for it ... My best guess is that it won't be quite as much of a breakout as Baldur's Gate 3, but that discussion around it will be very similar (maybe less of a blindside for console oriented players though). Unpopular franchise in """niche""" genre gets a new entry after a long period of time that reviews well and sells well and is a big hit (in this case, relative to the series). I don't think it sells nearly as well as Baldur's Gate, but it's also a more niche genre so.

I don't know, in a year with a lot of FFXVI / Spider-Man 2's / Street Fighter 6's, I wouldn't be that surprised if Armored Core sneaks in there and replaces one of the more iterative / derivative games. Even if it's less well-received.
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It’s the biggest wild card for sure. Hard to imagine a mech game bring a huge hit, but we’re in the midst of a CRPG going mainstream so anything’s possible. Would probably drop FFXVI if it does squeeze in, if I had to guess.

Xythereal said:
BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
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I’m all for Larian getting a slam dunk hit, and I’m a fair bit lower on Tears of the Kingdom than most of this board. But come on now.
 
AngryAlchemist said:
Here's a question: Do you guys think Armored Core is going to get a nomination?

For the overall metrics it has going for it ... My best guess is that it won't be quite as much of a breakout as Baldur's Gate 3, but that discussion around it will be very similar (maybe less of a blindside for console oriented players though). Unpopular franchise in """niche""" genre gets a new entry after a long period of time that reviews well and sells well and is a big hit (in this case, relative to the series). I don't think it sells nearly as well as Baldur's Gate, but it's also a more niche genre so.

I don't know, in a year with a lot of FFXVI / Spider-Man 2's / Street Fighter 6's, I wouldn't be that surprised if Armored Core sneaks in there and replaces one of the more iterative / derivative games. Even if it's less well-received.
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I could see it going either way. FromSoft is great, but this is very different from their usual output for the past decade, and even then previous AC games got a pretty tepid reception.
A lot of the previews I read for AC6 weren't quite as glowingly positive as one might expect.
 
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Thunder84 said:
It’s the biggest wild card for sure. Hard to imagine a mech game bring a huge hit, but we’re in the midst of a CRPG going mainstream so anything’s possible. Would probably drop FFXVI if it does squeeze in, if I had to guess.


I’m all for Larian getting a slam dunk hit, and I’m a fair bit lower on Tears of the Kingdom than most of this board. But come on now.
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I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?
 
Xythereal said:
I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?
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What kinda conspiracy nonsense is this? Nothing about this is "orchestrated". It's a great game that tons of people adore. It probably won't be my pick for GOTY, but it would 100% deserve the win if it does get it.
 
Xythereal said:
I "think" it is mandatory that Nintendo "gets on the board". There is a balance between gaming platforms that needs to be maintained. Great game, but I also think it is a bit orchestrated that it is nominated or even wins?
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What? No. The game is good. Nothing is orchestrated about it.
 
  • Tears of the Kingdom;
  • Baldur's Gate 3;
  • Super Mario Bros. Wonder;
  • Final Fantasy XVI;
  • Starfield;
  • Street Fighter VI.
 
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I'm wondering if FF16 even makes it at this point. People put it there by default but if great games keep coming out it could get overshadowed pretty thoroughly.

For BG3, it's definitely having a moment and is starting to look like a GOTY winner. What will be interesting is if Starfield is as good as it could, like 90+, it could split up the CRPG vote. Unless BG3 just eats it up, kind of how Witcher 3 ate up Fallout 4.
 
Dont think FF16 has a chance. Pikmin 4 was a more visually impressive game than FF and Jedi. Baldurs Gate had a chance if it came to Switch but alas.
 
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Xythereal said:
BG3 will win reviewers as a very solid, revolutionized RPG. It isn't just for a DnD fan base. Unlike Zelda for Nintendo
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Look, and I’m not trying to attack you or anything here, but you have 20 posts on this entire forum and literally all of them are in this thread praising BG3 and trying to downplay and backhand-compliment basically every other game. Which is fine and you’re entitled to your opinion but… maybe dial it back a bit? We get it.
 
Phantom Thief said:
If there was any justice in the world, Octopath 2 would take every nomination that's supposed to be going to FF16
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I'm afraid that in this year when you have BG3 and Starfield in all the RPG categories, Octopath 2 is going to be largely forgotten when it comes to awards. And that's not even including FF16 (which I largely agree with you about). Just feels like Octopath 2 has little chance of winning much of anything. Same with Chained Echoes (since it came out in December 2022 it counts for this year's awards for most outlets).
 
SammyJ9 said:
I'm afraid that in this year when you have BG3 and Starfield in all the RPG categories, Octopath 2 is going to be largely forgotten when it comes to awards. And that's not even including FF16 (which I largely agree with you about). Just feels like Octopath 2 has little chance of winning much of anything. Same with Chained Echoes (since it came out in December 2022 it counts for this year's awards for most outlets).
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It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)
 
I would be surprised if Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield don't cannibalize each other's votes, leading to a Zelda win. In a year with only Starfield or only Baldur's Gate 3 going against Zelda, it would be a lot more evenly matched.

At the beginning of the year I thought Zelda had it locked, and the fact that it's not as locked as I thought is a really good thing for the industry.
 
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Phantom Thief said:
It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)
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Chained Echoes might be able to nab some Indie categories, but you're right Sea of Stars will probably take those spots, if it's good. My main hope is that Octopath 2 at least gets a best music nomination, as it's still my pick for best OST this year so far.

Another 'game' that will probably get absolutely no recognition due to it being an expansion, sort of kind of technically? Is Xenoblade 3 Future Redeemed, which I admittedly haven't played yet myself but has gotten a ton of praise and is very high in review scores.

Basically, this year is just way too stacked for RPGs with all the big heavy hitters arriving and the smaller gems are going to get left out, unfortunately. In other years they'd get more spotlight.
 
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Yeah I am leaning towards BG3 getting a nom here, certainly over Diablo 4 at least. I haven't seen the conversation around a game like this since Elden Ring (and TOTK but that was more expected).
 
It’s kinda cool to see unexpected surprises when it comes to what can secure the win at TGA. Granted, I don’t follow every game out there but it’s definitely nice to see compared to some previous years, where you can kinda expect who‘d win

TotK, possibly Starfield, and BG3
 
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This year is nuts, and we still have over 4 months to go!

In my book, all of these games are deserving of GOTY nomination:
  • TotK
  • BG3
  • FFXVI
  • RE4R
  • Pikmin 4
  • SF6
  • Octopath 2
  • Diablo 4
…and it’s likely I’ll be adding Spider-Man 2, Starfield, and Mario Wonder to this list. Plus I’m sure there have been some great indie games I’m not familiar with.

Just a banger year for the gaming industry.
 
Mekanos said:
Yeah I am leaning towards BG3 getting a nom here, certainly over Diablo 4 at least. I haven't seen the conversation around a game like this since Elden Ring (and TOTK but that was more expected).
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That's my feeling too. Diablo 4 and FF16 both have cooled quite a bit in the critical and general public sense, it seems like from what I'm seeing lately. Releasing BG3 early in early August and giving it a full month pre-Starfield has been a massive success for Larian and really given it a lot more exposure than it might have had otherwise.
 
SammyJ9 said:
That's my feeling too. Diablo 4 and FF16 both have cooled quite a bit in the critical and general public sense, it seems like from what I'm seeing lately. Releasing BG3 early in early August and giving it a full month pre-Starfield has been a massive success for Larian and really given it a lot more exposure than it might have had otherwise.
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I think FF16 will still get nominated because of brand recognition and genre bias (a cinematic single player RPG is more likely to get nominated than say, Street Fighter 6), but who knows what's in store for the rest of the year.
 
Phantom Thief said:
It will be, yeah. The "small RPG" nods will probably go to something like Sea of Stars, and Octopath 2 will basically be snubbed wholesale by the awards. Which is actually flabbergasting when you consider how fucking good it is, it would be like Persona pre-5 getting snubbed at game awards (which to be fair also happened, so I guess I should not be surprised)
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Right now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:
-Baldur's Gate 3
-Diablo 4
-Octopath Traveler 2
-Sea of Stars
-Starfield
FF16 will be relegated to "Best Action Game". The win will either go to Starfield or BG3.
 
I’m starting to have a gut feeling that Spider-Man 2 is going to underwhelm. I have no reason for this.
 
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SammyJ9 said:
Look, and I’m not trying to attack you or anything here, but you have 20 posts on this entire forum and literally all of them are in this thread praising BG3 and trying to downplay and backhand-compliment basically every other game. Which is fine and you’re entitled to your opinion but… maybe dial it back a bit? We get it.
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tbh that's the most reasonable baldur gate fanboy I've seen
 
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JorgenRaft said:
It is interesting that Redfall has 7 votes but somehow still isn't even the lowest option on the poll.
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Probably old votes that were never changed. We're only two years off from Arkane having a GOTY nominee.

It obviously flopped hard, but it had a better chance than Dead Island 2 ever did.
 
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ThanatosIntern said:
Right now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:
-Baldur's Gate 3
-Diablo 4
-Octopath Traveler 2
-Sea of Stars
-Starfield
FF16 will be relegated to "Best Action Game". The win will either go to Starfield or BG3.
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Why would FFXVI not be in the RPG category as well? Just because Octopath is more of an RPG? Branding is just as important for categories and most judges are probably people that still remember when Final Fantasy was the defacto console RPG
 
AngryAlchemist said:
Why would FFXVI not be in the RPG category as well? Just because Octopath is more of an RPG? Branding is just as important for categories and most judges are probably people that still remember when Final Fantasy was the defacto console RPG
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Right, let's not forget that Sifu got into that Fighting Game category last year. FF16 will probably still get in there even though the RPG elements are lighter than usual.
 
Thunder84 said:
Probably old votes that were never changed. We're only two years off from Arkane having a GOTY nominee.

It obviously flopped hard, but it had a better chance than Dead Island 2 ever did.
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Think you quoted the wrong post but I know what you're referring to lol.

But yeah, that's what I figure as well. If/when I make a follow up to this, those two will likely not be included in a revised poll along with a handful of others.
 
ThanatosIntern said:
Right now, I think the "Best RPG" noms will be:
-Baldur's Gate 3
-Diablo 4
-Octopath Traveler 2
-Sea of Stars
-Starfield
FF16 will be relegated to "Best Action Game". The win will either go to Starfield or BG3.
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If FF gets nominated, it will for sure be in the RPG category. I don’t think people quite understand that TGA goes off the genre the developer/publisher lists the game as, not what normal people think it should be considered.

For example, God of War Ragnarok is about as RPG as you can get, but Sony doesn’t consider it an RPG so it wasn’t nominated for RPG of the year last year.
 
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I feel like this board has a pretty significant disconnect when it comes to FFXVI. We're not the ones voting in the nominees. Critics are, and they loved it.

I'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut.
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
It'd be really funny if they expanded the number of noms just to accommodate how insane this year has been.
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If we're being honest, it might be the move for the longterm. 2023 is incredible, but I think that has more to do with the industry finally hitting its stride again after COVID more than anything. Just looking at 2024 right now:
  • Hades 2
  • Earthblade
  • Metaphor: ReFantazio
  • Rise of the Ronin
  • Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
  • Avowed
  • Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
  • Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
  • Star Wars Outlaws
  • Metroid Prime 4(?)
  • Hollow Knight: Silksong(?)
  • 3D Mario(?)
  • Grand Theft Auto VI(?)
  • New Monster Hunter(?)
Plus more that I might be forgetting, along with a slew of other likely excellent games that aren't really GOTY nominees on paper. Not to mention any additional announcements that we could see, such as something else from Nintendo, Xbox, or Sony (maybe Wolverine), along with any assortment of 3rd party announcements. It's not slowing down any time soon.
 
thoughthaver said:
ff16 is almost definitely getting locked out of goty. spiderman 2, armored core and starfield will keep out of the running. its just way too mid for this year.
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3 games that we have little reference to what the actual reception will be yet?

Thunder84 said:
I feel like this board has a pretty significant disconnect when it comes to FFXVI. We're not the ones voting in the nominees. Critics are, and they loved it.

I'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut.
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If this board picked the nominees, then yes FF16 would likely come in around 73rd place right below Gollum. Outside this bubble, including critics like you say, it's been really well regarded. Hell the User Score on Metacritic is pretty much the same as it is for TOTK.
 
Thunder84 said:
I feel like this board has a pretty significant disconnect when it comes to FFXVI. We're not the ones voting in the nominees. Critics are, and they loved it.

I'd be very surprised if it doesn't make the cut.
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Yeah it's ridiculous. What surprises me most of all especially is the fact that some people think FFXVI has no chance but thar Spider-Man 2 is a lock. Frankly even if Spider-Man 2 reviews higher, FFXVI being a reinvention of the franchise with a mature story is a big thing going for it. Right now I'd put both at about as likely to be nominated, with XVI being a bit more likely. The one ball in Spider-Man 2's court is that it is launching closer to the Game Awards, so it will probably be in critics consciousness more.
 
I don’t think anyone’s saying FF16 isn’t well regarded, but fact is there is a limited number of slots and it’s reception hasn’t been so overwhelming that it’s guaranteed a spot. Particularly with how strong the competition is this year I’m not sure what’s so ridiculous about suggesting it might not get nominated. That’s not a slight on Final Fantasy, just acknowledging how stacked the year is.
 
YoboD said:
Particularly with how strong the competition is this year I’m not sure what’s so ridiculous about suggesting it might not get nominated.
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I'm not saying thinking 16 might not get nominated is ridiculous. People have been talking about that possibility for multiple pages and no one objected. I actually think that could happen and it's a fairly reasonable prediction. I think saying that it's almost certainly getting locked out because it's so mid is the ridiculous part. As someone who does think the game is kind of mid, that's just not how criticis viewed the title, hence its kind of a silly and ridiculous take.
 
thoughthaver said:
ff16 is almost definitely getting locked out of goty. spiderman 2, armored core and starfield will keep out of the running. its just way too mid for this year.
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There’s absolutely no guarantee Armored Core will get nominated. It’s a niche series in a rather unpopular genre.
 
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