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Totally, but it would be worse to NOT have a successor then for it to sell less then switch. Even with its first party software the switch simply wont sell that much anymore, third party will dry up, and they cant sustain themselves only with first party releases.I feel some people overestimates the potential success of the next gen console. It will be near impossible to make a system as popular as the Switch, but having big third party support is definitely a must.
The GPU would draw similar power consumption as the DLSS test showed, if TSMC 4N, which Thraktor has completely convinced me on, also yeah 3.456TFLOPs Ampere would be in the neighborhood of XBSS's 4TFLOPs, especially thanks to DLSS. It can do some things better, and some things worse, targeting higher resolutions should be less of an issue for "Switch 2" but given that XBSS is ~70w and this is ~13w, I think that is more than a fair trade off. (This is largely because ARM and Ampere are far more efficient per flop/performance and the node is far better than TSMC's 7nm that XBSS is built on.Entertaining the slight possibility this leak is real, for the fun of it...
With this power draw what are the power levels, can you do your amazing analysis for us? Would we be looking at a dreamy 3.X Teraflop Switch 2? Also portable TF levels? Was he right in saying (with those numbers) it is comparable to a Series S, ish?
Market is still growing in size, India, Indonesia, South America might be add numbers in 2028 the current Switch couldn't yet reach.I feel some people overestimates the potential success of the next gen console. It will be near impossible to make a system as popular as the Switch, but having big third party support is definitely a must.
It's gonna be announced in 2024 and release in 2025. There is no other way.Longtime Industry Observer Admits He Has No Idea What Nintendo Is Doing
Take a look at Rob Fahey’s opinion piece at Gameindustry.biz. My first take is, “This guy is STILL THERE?” Rob Fahey has been doing opinion pieces at Gameindustry.biz as long as I…seanmalstrom.wordpress.com
Sean Malstrom is #Team2025 going into #Team2026. Sean can be a broken clock but I think he makes some pretty good points here. (this can't be worse than linking to 4chan, can it?)
First, thanks everyone who reached out privately. Ya'll are cool.
Second, let's do some speculating/wishing. What do ya'll want from the next console other than performance. Squishy triggers? A 1080p screen? A second screen? New colors? It can be literally anything.
The rules are - reply to this message directly, but no judging each other's picks. No telling folks why it's not possible, or what it's unlikely, or why the shouldn't want it. I just want people to say what they imagine the next thing might have. It's cool if it's a weird niche thing, it's cool if it's boring. Just let me know. I'm a little tired of this rut of "the same but better" and odds are Nintendo has one surprise cooking, and if it's yours, I want to celebrate that you get your weird niche thing!
The opening paragraph goes for Malstrom himself as well, of course; he's still on his blog?!Longtime Industry Observer Admits He Has No Idea What Nintendo Is Doing
Take a look at Rob Fahey’s opinion piece at Gameindustry.biz. My first take is, “This guy is STILL THERE?” Rob Fahey has been doing opinion pieces at Gameindustry.biz as long as I…seanmalstrom.wordpress.com
Sean Malstrom is #Team2025 going into #Team2026. Sean can be a broken clock but I think he makes some pretty good points here. (this can't be worse than linking to 4chan, can it?)
I thought this age group does not use Facebook anymore?! Anyway, it was just a suggestion, as this stats are REALLY off and anecdotal experience is not really a proof (not that I doubt your experience, but its also just a thesis as mine)i frequent two Facebook groups focused on Nintendo and most of the user theres is around this age, this infografic Nintendo showed us
Hey, I somewhat remember you. You had the whole thing where backwards compatibility couldn't happen on anything but maxwell right? -Not trying to bash you btw, welcome back. I could be wrong of course.Light correction, Nintendo doesn't actually run their devkits at higher clocks by default, it's something application devs can explicitly opt into if they wish (on NX it's enabled by callingnn::oe::SetCpuOverclockEnabled(bool)
, which sets a 1785MHz overclock. The 1224MHz profiles are unused.)
So if real those would likely be the normal operating wattages.
4chan leak is 100% fake imo.
The devkit in Spain leak may be legit.
read through it... i completly disagree with his position.Longtime Industry Observer Admits He Has No Idea What Nintendo Is Doing
Take a look at Rob Fahey’s opinion piece at Gameindustry.biz. My first take is, “This guy is STILL THERE?” Rob Fahey has been doing opinion pieces at Gameindustry.biz as long as I…seanmalstrom.wordpress.com
Sean Malstrom is #Team2025 going into #Team2026. Sean can be a broken clock but I think he makes some pretty good points here. (this can't be worse than linking to 4chan, can it?)
Oh that to? yeah, no, this opinion is more trash than any 4chan leak, at least those are amusing and creative half the time, this is just uninformed and narrow mindedThe opening paragraph goes for Malstrom himself as well, of course; he's still on his blog?!
Anyways, I don't think our alt-right sympathising little friend has considered the notion of cross-gen. That'd be a first for Nintendo, but has been standard practice for both big competitors this gen, and the mobile market for many years.
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I actually wanted a higher resolution screen just in case they decide to bring back Labo VR on the NX2 since 720p wasn't good on it. Actually bought a 3rd party headset that supported the Switch because I wanted something more sturdy than cardboard. It was good for a laugh but also as someone who had a Virtual Boy, I just liked the idea of 3D stereoscopic visuals in gaming, feeling Virtual Boy did it better than 3DS.First, thanks everyone who reached out privately. Ya'll are cool.
Second, let's do some speculating/wishing. What do ya'll want from the next console other than performance. Squishy triggers? A 1080p screen? A second screen? New colors? It can be literally anything.
The rules are - reply to this message directly, but no judging each other's picks. No telling folks why it's not possible, or what it's unlikely, or why the shouldn't want it. I just want people to say what they imagine the next thing might have. It's cool if it's a weird niche thing, it's cool if it's boring. Just let me know. I'm a little tired of this rut of "the same but better" and odds are Nintendo has one surprise cooking, and if it's yours, I want to celebrate that you get your weird niche thing!
I like you. Though the problem at this point is how to streamline all of this without being confusing for the average joe (many can find Mario Artist confusing honestly).I actually wanted a higher resolution screen just in case they decide to bring back Labo VR on the NX2 since 720p wasn't good on it. Actually bought a 3rd party headset that supported the Switch because I wanted something more sturdy than cardboard. It was good for a laugh but also as someone who had a Virtual Boy, I just liked the idea of 3D stereoscopic visuals in gaming, feeling Virtual Boy did it better than 3DS.
There are other features from other Nintendo consoles I wouldn't mind seeing, like maybe an updated IR sensor the Wii pulled off so well, though seeing how I game via a projector, it's hard to tell how much mileage I get from this since my setup is pointing away from the console. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing a more practical way of bringing back lightgun games or even the possibility of having a home port of the Luigi's Mansion arcade happen at some point. Also if it was possible to integrate a biometric sensor on the joycon or pro controller and see if they had other ways of implementing the Bio Tetris sensor in others games, like a Zelda game that reacts to the player's fear or a WarioWare game that encourages mind-over-matter.
I like to imagine the ideal Nintendo console is something that attempts to "do it all," which a lot like the NES, SNES and Wii specifically seemed fairly capable in terms of peripherals and such. So many different ways to play and accessories to boot. Down to the point where a second screen-type peripheral like a drawing tablet or successor to the Wii U gamepad might be more affordable these days. Seeing a Mario Artist/Mario Paint follow-up even if as an update/expansion to Game Builder Garage would be killing two birds with one stone and it'd be nice to paint more intuitively than a controller while also having the screen display freely and available for families and friends. Heck it doesn't have to be a peripheral, it could also be in the form of an app that streams to devices and controls the game directly, like a certain cancelled game console aspired to try.
I do also wonder if a successor to the Switch could bring back cameras and have apps and games that implement them. Like a follow-up to Game Boy Camera comes to mind but also on the Mario Artist thing, I could see the camera (and SD card slot) doing the things the capture cartridge was supposed to provide but on a more streamlined scale. People posting their faces on models, using photos as textures or skyboxes, etc.,
Heck, I'm already asking for the moon but if GameCube style pressure triggers were to come back, ZL and ZR seem right for it as a way of having one's cake and eating it too. Splatoon always reminded me of Mario Sunshine, so a 4th installment using the ZL+ZR triggers sounds like a plan if they can pull off the durability just right.
Just the idea of a Nintendo console that can do whatever's needed for just about any game you can throw at it. Kind of like an Omnibus of Nintendo consoles, while still pushing for the future.
Why not ? It's never too late to learn a thing or three about biology.WHY WOULD I ZOOM IN ON A LYNAL'S CROTCH MID COMBAT. WHY DO YOU THINK I WANT TO DO THAT???
One has to wonder if Nintendo went horse or humanoid down thereWhy not ? It's never too late to learn a thing or three about biology.
Why not ? It's never too late to learn a thing or three about biology.
I concur. I’ve been using my Zelda OLED’s Joycons, but I want a Pro Controller. I’m 100% convinced to get the Zelda themed one, and if I can’t find one, I’ll get another themed one, ‘cause honestly, the basic Pro Controller is just that: too basic. For a $69.99 product, I wouldn’t feel satisfied spending that amount of money for something that doesn’t enamore me.I want colour, so bored of completely black consoles, black controllers (talking about Pro controllers),
Great breakdown, he's always had a way of "bending" the facts to his narrative, often even contradicting himself from post to post.Oh that to? yeah, no, this opinion is more trash than any 4chan leak, at least those are amusing and creative half the time, this is just uninformed and narrow minded
Oh , i get how he could have been a breath of fresh air back then.Great breakdown, he's always had a way of "bending" the facts to his narrative, often even contradicting himself from post to post.
He was a breath of fresh air in the Wii era - when the IGNs and GameSpots of the world were at the peak of their PS360 "hardcore gamers" era - writing about the Iwata era business strategy. I fell off when he started flirting with that gamer gatin', women bashin', Trump praisin' lifestyle (and gradually found out he wasn't particularly concerned with facts if it didn't suit him). Maybe he's changed but probably not, based scrolling his blog .
This is a quote from a news article about Nintendo strong sales during the 2009 Holiday Season. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nintendo-shares-idINTRE6050QB20100106read through it... i completly disagree with his position.
"2D Mario helps reinvigorate a consoles decline"... New Mario Bros Wii was in wiis third year, long before the decline was, New super mario bros wii u was a Launch Title, and on the DS/3DS it was a mid lifespan release.
As for the DS, it and the PSP went toe to toe for a moment until the pendulum definitely started swinging towards the DS, ircc this was around the release of the DS Lite which launched with NSMB. So the pattern of NSMB reinvigorating hardware (or handheld market share in the case of DS) might not be 4/4 but it's 2/4.Shares in Nintendo Co Ltd 7974.OS jumped 7 percent on Wednesday after strong holiday sales in the United States helped erase market concerns that momentum for its Wii game console had peaked.
You're quoting him wrong here, he says a new live service title signals that Nintendo will keep the system around for at least another 5 years (which is backed up by the infamous Switch is in the half of its life-cycle quote) and that it doesn't make sense to release a successor a year after its release, not that Splatoon will get supported for 5 years or that it won't get announced before the support is over.The jump from "Splatoon 2 was 5 years later, so they expect splatoon 3 to life for exactly 5 years more" ignoring the options that 3 years are maybe enough, that it wont imediately die when the successor is released, and that maybe it works just as well on the successor?
Having live service titles could suggest the successor is backwards compatible. Why alienate existing services with a new hardware?he says a new live service title signals that Nintendo will keep the system around for at least another 5 years
With a 20% price cut... i dont think its wrong to say it helped push the console, but thats something you can say about any big first party release. If a console has no games, sales drop, if it has many great game,s sales are strong.This is a quote from a news article about Nintendo strong sales during the 2009 Holiday Season. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nintendo-shares-idINTRE6050QB20100106
Here i would say the revision was such a huge step, that it cant be simply counted towards new super mario bros, and how do you "reguvinate" sales when you literary launch a new revision that by default will do that. I really dont see a parallel to >help a revision early in its life< to revitalizing a platform that is on a natural fall of because of saturation.As for the DS, it and the PSP went toe to toe for a moment until the pendulum definitely started swinging towards the DS, ircc this was around the release of the DS Lite which launched with NSMB. So the pattern of NSMB reinvigorating hardware (or handheld market share in the case of DS) might not be 4/4 but it's 2/4.
And what is his reasoning if its a cross gen title? not talking about that, not even taking it into account, and ignoring that even if a platform is launched, most Switch players wont have it in the first year (impossible, supply constrained), meaning for the first years it will still have an audience of 120M Switches out there as the main switch console in the household...You're quoting him wrong here, he says a new live service title signals that Nintendo will keep the system around for at least another 5 years (which is backed up by the infamous Switch is in the half of its life-cycle quote) and that it doesn't make sense to release a successor a year after its release, not that Splatoon will get supported for 5 years or that it won't get announced before the support is over.
VR support at launch, with an accessory that turns the "tablet" into a VR Headset, and camera joycons on the tips for high-quality motion capture.First, thanks everyone who reached out privately. Ya'll are cool.
Second, let's do some speculating/wishing. What do ya'll want from the next console other than performance. Squishy triggers? A 1080p screen? A second screen? New colors? It can be literally anything.
The rules are - reply to this message directly, but no judging each other's picks. No telling folks why it's not possible, or what it's unlikely, or why the shouldn't want it. I just want people to say what they imagine the next thing might have. It's cool if it's a weird niche thing, it's cool if it's boring. Just let me know. I'm a little tired of this rut of "the same but better" and odds are Nintendo has one surprise cooking, and if it's yours, I want to celebrate that you get your weird niche thing!
I feel some people overestimates the potential success of the next gen console. It will be near impossible to make a system as popular as the Switch, but having big third party support is definitely a must.
Could I interest you in capacitive shoulder buttons instead? Same input capabilities, but with even more possibilities! (There's also less to break and doesn't mess with the plain L and R presses.)You really want me to say it, don't you? Okay, i'm not going to disappoint the expecations put on me.
Scrollwheel Shoulderbuttons.
A virtual boy dock with tripod that doesn't strap to your head!VR support at launch, with an accessory that turns the "tablet" into a VR Headset, and camera joycons on the tips for high-quality motion capture.
The hardware wasn't just handed down to them from Zeus. If continuing development primarily on the old machine while allowing it to look better on the new machine was something they wanted, they could've made it happen. Yet they have repeatedly chosen not to. And Wii and Wii U were very much built on the shoulders of their predecessors.This should be obvious,
Completely different architectures. They needed completely disparate development teams to make the 3ds game or the Wii U game, and then port it to the DS/Wii. Too much divergent development. Main reasons why the combined handheld/home development in the first place.
TOTK is maybe one of the better examples against this, I think. In a weirder world, a lot of Switch games still could've functioned as simultaneous Wii U releases. But TOTK is an example of building onto a Wii U release so much that a Wii U version would no longer be feasible. Easy easy to imagine the same happening for the next game, even if they didn't change graphical complexity much.They can make epic/grand ToTK sized games for the next 5 years.
Cardboard VR/Smartphone VR died in the 2010s.A virtual boy dock with tripod that doesn't strap to your head!
It'd be cool if at least they had the labo cardboard headset built into the packaging for the new system.
How do you propose this works? I know there's stuff like Apple's solid-state trackpad, but I don't think I've seen anyone combine that tech with a physical button. Unless you're saying they go with solid-state shoulder buttons.Could I interest you in capacitive shoulder buttons instead? Same input capabilities, but with even more possibilities! (There's also less to break and doesn't mess with the plain L and R presses.)
He does consider the possibility of a MK1 situation where it's just a Switch port of games available ont he current gen.I was watching it, and got to almost 3 minutes. I’m going to be honest, I think he’s misinterpreting that part that included the switch. The switch was simply an example, as it is a current gen console and they are looking for people with experience shipping games on consoles or PC. Switch being included widens their reach of potential people and makes the search more favorable to appear for people who are looking for a job.
Saying “(PlayStation 5, XBox Series or Switch)” I think makes it pretty clear.
They need people pretty much for this development studio. And of course, they are hiring more people. So, when you have a dev studio looking for people, they’ll attempt to make it more favorable/likely.
It’s like a reverse filter in a sense.
I wouldn’t read much into this or these job listings as “oh it means it’ll include the switch or switch 2”, but as “they’re looking for anyone that fits this job perfectly, even those that have developed or delivered with the switch, it’s not limited to just PS5/XBS and PC”
Typically, key partners will have a devkit for about a yr ahead of launch. Others will get access closer to launch or after launch due to limited devkit supply and being a low priority.
I think a higher refresh rate (e.g. 120 Hz) is also a must for VR.I actually wanted a higher resolution screen just in case they decide to bring back Labo VR on the NX2 since 720p wasn't good on it.
Could I interest you in capacitive shoulder buttons instead? Same input capabilities, but with even more possibilities! (There's also less to break and doesn't mess with the plain L and R presses.)
I see, huge thanks for explaining <3
As much as I dislike "Meta" (facebook xd), since Threads will be integrating Fediverse (Mastodon, lemmy, bluesky, etc) a bit after launch, I have hope in it bringing the fediverse to the mainstream and popularising it enough to the point I can stick to Mastodon and not really miss anything I wanna see on Threads (ex. posts from big companies who only use big mainstream platforms to post official updates like Nintendo or Sony). I rarely give props to Meta but if this is pulled off well I can see the success of Threads being a win-win for everyone on the internet, including those who want a more privacy-sane internet.
A folding console with 1080p screen, that will use DLSS on portable mode. R and L scroll buttons and ZL and ZR Trigger Buttons. Some kind of tech on controller to replace the Infrared to make possible a perfect pointer. New and improved analog sticks and rumble tech. Bigger joycons than current models to a better grip.First, thanks everyone who reached out privately. Ya'll are cool.
Second, let's do some speculating/wishing. What do ya'll want from the next console other than performance. Squishy triggers? A 1080p screen? A second screen? New colors? It can be literally anything.
The rules are - reply to this message directly, but no judging each other's picks. No telling folks why it's not possible, or what it's unlikely, or why the shouldn't want it. I just want people to say what they imagine the next thing might have. It's cool if it's a weird niche thing, it's cool if it's boring. Just let me know. I'm a little tired of this rut of "the same but better" and odds are Nintendo has one surprise cooking, and if it's yours, I want to celebrate that you get your weird niche thing!
Gonna delurk here...this isn't true. The "original" New Super Mario Bros. came out around the time the DS was really taking off. NSMB Wii came out maybe a little after the Wii's peak as a fad but before any major decline. The 3DS game was a fairly early release and the Wii U was launch. A 2D Mario coming out this late in a system's life is, well, "uncharted territory." Though actually, if you count Yoshi's Island that came out in 1995, the SNES's final year before the 64...but there isn't really a consistent pattern to all this.2d Mario has a reputation for reinvigorating a console’s decline. This happened with the DS and the Wii. The fact that Super Mario Wonder is not being on Switch 2 tells me that Nintendo plans for Switch to stick around longer.
And Switch can already barely run it as it is, let's not ignore the million framedrops... Whatever next gen exclusive Nintendo makes for Drake will make it look insanely primitive, and will NOT get ported at all. Computionally speaking, this is a ludicrous jump that rivals the likes of leaving PS3 for a PS4 without its biggest bottlenecks like CPU while bringing dedicated hardware to the table, not counting docked mode. The 6x GPU figures alone are already huge by themselves, but when you remember Ampere tflops basically play at a different league... Pretending the Switch will be able to run any of its exclusives to begin with is ridiculous, especially if DLSS and raytracing is already a factor day one.The hardware wasn't just handed down to them from Zeus. If continuing development primarily on the old machine while allowing it to look better on the new machine was something they wanted, they could've made it happen. Yet they have repeatedly chosen not to. And Wii and Wii U were very much built on the shoulders of their predecessors.
TOTK is maybe one of the better examples against this, I think. In a weirder world, a lot of Switch games still could've functioned as simultaneous Wii U releases. But TOTK is an example of building onto a Wii U release so much that a Wii U version would no longer be feasible. Easy easy to imagine the same happening for the next game, even if they didn't change graphical complexity much.
After reading this article Ampere has its shader array underutilize many of the times as SM occupancy is pretty low. It's worth mentioning that they're using the giant 3090 in the test, and smaller cards would have better shader utilization. Still I'm thinking about Drake and its rather big GPU (for its class) and wonder if Drake would be bottlenecked in the same way as I mentioned above, or devs would find a way to better fill all those hungry 12SMs, or maybe Nvidia and Nintendo has done some micro customization to the architecture that alleviates the problem. What are your insights on this @Thraktor @oldpuck as this is pretty much out of my realm of understanding since I'm not a game developers nor a hardware architect.
Also I'm going to Japan this month and I might visit Kyoto which has Nintendo Co. Ltd main headquarter lol
maybe add a camera/microphone just in case Nintendo decided to revive the Nintendogs IPShould they get rid of the IR camera to cut costs? The number of games that use it is very small.
in the ongoing discussion about storage and whether or not SD cards will be fast enough, here's a notorious game for asset loading, Star Citizen, running on an SD card. the uploader says he's getting 20-40 fps, so whether or not that's from asset loading or just steam deck performance we don't know
for comparison, here's the game in an HDD, Sata SSD, and NVME SSD