Pre-Release The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Pre-Release Discussion Thread

[Serif]

The last trailer didn't show momentum reversal either.

The patents contained a lot of implementation detail, including when and where these abilities can be used, and use cases (like using phasing to enter underground caves or locked houses). Presumably the new environments and puzzles would be designed around them. I would think if they were encountering limitations with an ability, they would design around them, rather than scrapping a feature they spent time developing and actively showed in trailers.

 

[hk-rara]

I am sure when we get the bigger trailer, it will contain at least a 2 second clip of all the mechanics we have seen in past trailers and any potential other mechanics they want to showcase prior to release. But in terms of them removing mechanics we saw in past trailers, I don't think they would have showed it if they were not sure it would work and may have to be removed

 

[JoRu]

I guess if it's true that they have a public demo at PAX East ... around that time, i'd say.

I feel like I've missed something, is there an indication that there will be a demo there (I know Nintendo will be there, but that doesn't mean there will be a demo for people to play)?

 

[Nakapol]

I feel like I've missed something, is there an indication that there will be a demo there (I know Nintendo will be there, but that doesn't mean there will be a demo for people to play)?

it just they usually have something there

 

[Awesomegames23]

There's a lot of stuff they need to still show and PAX is scheduled at a date when it's reasonable to announce/show some of these things: Zelda OLED, more amiibo (maybe), story trailer, and gameplay. I don't think people will be allowed to play TotK at PAX, but think they'll announce the Zelda OLED around PAX, and maybe give a treehouse date for TotK, I think TotK gameplay/Treehouse for early April is very reasonable. If Nintendo does have more amiibo, which I'm 50/50 on, I think they'll announce those when they announce the Zelda OLED, but they could just be shadow dropped.

But it's Nintendo so who knows.

 

[spelga51]

I feel like I've missed something, is there an indication that there will be a demo there (I know Nintendo will be there, but that doesn't mean there will be a demo for people to play)?

sadly I think it'll just be the most recent trailer on a loop on a big screen, knowing Nintendo.

 

[Vash]

On the morning of May 12th, I will attempt to break the Walmart Electronics Section Speed Run record.

Nope I took that day off work. That means it's digitally downloaded and mashing the A button on game icon at 11:58pm May 11th

 

[Serif]

Considering BotW has sold roughly 30 mil copies with a conservative play through being 100 hours, collectively as a group we have played BotW for 3 Billion hours and not one of us thought to explore typhlo ruins more in depth. Granted it was covered in darkness and no one would be actively looking for a Gleeok until after the last trailer. I’m pretty sure this is the first mention of that 3 headed dragon statue by anyone, otherwise we would have already had a Zelda YouTuber‘s 3 hour analysis on ”The mystery of the Zonai Gleeok, and how it will effect TotK,“ video out long ago.

2:00
Those three statues were covered with leaves which you could burn for additional visibility when the ruins are shrouded, creating the appearance of three flaming dragon heads i.e.

 

[Dardan Sandiego]

2:00
Those three statues were covered with leaves which you could burn for additional visibility when the ruins are shrouded, creating the appearance of three flaming dragon heads i.e.

Unironically #DeepestLore

 

[chocolate_supra]

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the No Darkness

 

[Bonejack]

Just as OoT needed a way to unfreeze the Zora Domain, BotW needed a way to un-dark those ruins. Even if it was post-game.

 

[Vash]

I don’t know if this is a function of me getting older, but the build up to this game has felt much less like one of escalating hype, as was the case with Breath of the Wild, and more like a cozy anticipation? Like, I love Zelda, easily my favorite series, but I just feel kind of “Oh, it will be nice when I get to play this new game!” Rather than “I WANT IT NOW!”

Im the opposite. From the first E3 2019 trailer onwards, this has been an excruciating wait.

 

[SMALLVILLE BOY]

We are almost there, just 2 months and 11 days. I can't wait!

 

[Awesomegames23]

If Robbie and Purah are up to new stuff, and we know that we can make Zonai vehicles, we might be able to make new sheikah based vehicles too. Or maybe Sheikah attachments to Zonai vehicles. Guardian arms would be a cool attachment for vehicles for instance.

 

[Deleted member 2]

I don’t know if this is a function of me getting older, but the build up to this game has felt much less like one of escalating hype, as was the case with Breath of the Wild, and more like a cozy anticipation? Like, I love Zelda, easily my favorite series, but I just feel kind of “Oh, it will be nice when I get to play this new game!” Rather than “I WANT IT NOW!”

"cozy anticipation" is a good way to describe it for me.

Up until the art book leak. It's been a lot harder to wait since then.

 

[Awesomegames23]

Nintendo updated the TotK website to clarify about the DLC lmao scroll to the bottom: https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/

they added the bold, "**Full version of game required to use DLC for that game. Sold separately."

 

[Dark Cloud]

Wow

 

[Awesomegames23]

Wow

Nintendo doesn't often clarify unless we make dumb enough takes.

 

[Stinky Horse]

lol well that was underwhelming

Nintendo doesn't often clarify unless we make dumb enough takes.

well they had missed the corresponding single and double asterisk from the main text, they are there now.
at least that's how I remember it when I'd previously tried to find them.

 

[Serif]

Nintendo updated the TotK website to clarify about the DLC lmao scroll to the bottom: https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/

they added the bold, "**Full version of game required to use DLC for that game. Sold separately."

This has been entertaining to see in real-time.

Footnote has been there since the Direct with two asterisks ** in the gold points section.

At some point the asterisks got inexplicably removed (some poor fellow made a typo, most likely), the footnotes remained.

Someone just noticed the footnote in the past few days, many posts are made and a bunch of sites report on it without doing a modicum of research.

The asterisks are added back in a few days ago, and now this additional clarification.

Lmao

 

[Awesomegames23]

Here come the, "Nintendo Updates TotK DLC" articles that gives you a recap of their article confirming DLC to just then let you know this clarification means DLC isn't confirmed and they're sorry, but will make this exact mistake again to double dip on the clicks.

 

[Serif]

Here come the, "Nintendo Updates TotK DLC" articles that gives you a recap of their article confirming DLC to just then let you know this clarification means DLC isn't confirmed and they're sorry, but will make this exact mistake again to double dip on the clicks.

I'll do you one better - "Nintendo confirms no DLC for TotK".

 

[Stinky Horse]

DLC cancelled

 

[Dardan Sandiego]

"Zelda DLC Cancelled! Nintendo dropping support in anticipation for Switch 2?!"

 

[Awesomegames23]

"Nintendo's Cancellation of TotK DLC Confirms it is BoTW DLC?"

 

[Dark Cloud]

 

[Skittzo]

Nintendo doesn't often clarify unless we make dumb enough takes.

Quick we need to make a couple hundred videos about why vehicles surely cannot be modularly constructed

 

[Awesomegames23]

Quick we need to make a couple hundred videos about why vehicles surely cannot be modularly constructed

You know, modular vehicles isn't a horrible way for Zelda to enter Lego...

 

[Serif]

With the more in-depth construction and crafting this game is offering, I expect some kind of building customization using the Bolson construction blocks.

 

[LukasManak22]

I am crying how they uploaded the site in regards of DLC. Top stuff.

 

[DecoReturns]

Can anyone explain the DLC thing?

Think I missed something

 

[Boyfriend]

Can anyone explain the DLC thing?

Think I missed something

people misread the gold points disclaimer as a confirmation that TOTK was getting DLC, even though it's just a bog standard statement about buying DLC for anything off the eshop with the gold points.

it went back and forth for a while of being reworded and clarified on the site because people can't be trusted to read

 

[Serif]

I reread Creating a Champion and in regards to timeline, it really wants to have its cake and eat it too. Referencing the 'good ending' of Ocarina:

"Ganondorf, king of the Gerudo, transforms into Dark Beast Garron and threatens Hyrule. The princess of Hyrule and the chosen hero combine their power to seal Ganon."

(could this also describe the events that led to Downfall? Maybe, but that doesn't seem to be the implication.)

But also a cycle of constant Ganon revivals, which lines up with Downfall better, and is unlikely to have happened in the Adult timeline as (a) Ganondorf himself is at the bottom of the sea with the Master Sword stabbed in his forehead (b) the Adult timeline currently ends in Spirit Tracks which is in New Hyrule and BotW's world is Old Hyrule

"In a seemingly endless cycle of darkness and light, Ganon continues to be revived and then sealed away."

However, there may be way for BotW to be in the Adult Timeline. Some dialogue from the Great Deku Tree in Wind Waker, suggesting a 'restoration' of Hyrule.

"Every year after the Koroks perform this ceremony, they fly off to the distant islands on the sea and plant my seeds in the hopes that new forests will grow." — Great Deku Tree (The Wind Waker)

"Forests hold great power: they can change one tiny island into a much larger island. Soon, a day will come when all the islands are one, connected by earth and grove. And the people who live on that great island will be able to join hands and, together, create a better world. Such is my dream." — Great Deku Tree (The Wind Waker)

Despite the founding of New Hyrule in Spirit Tracks, perhaps generations after once the islands of Old Hyrule are 'pulled together' and the sea levels changed, members of the Sheikah tribe returned and stared to form their advanced civilization, and there was an exodus of Hylians 'back to the homeland' so to say.

If one argues that this narratively goes against the ending of Wind Waker - I'm inclined to agree with you, though, it could still work in the sense that all these new islands coming together are still a 'rebirth' of Hyrule, and not strictly a restoration of the old one.

Eh, just an idea. Personally, I think process of elimination leads to Downfall. I just thought these quotes were interesting, as my memories of Wind Waker are foggy.

 

[hk-rara]

So I just rewatched the botw trailers followed by the totk trailers and the general vibes of mystery and not really showing much story wise (just some landscapes and a few basic mechanics but nothing too specific) is the general theme for both game trailers. It wasn't until the last botw 4 min trailer where any real story beats and characters were properly shown. From memory it did seem like a similar approach, but after watching them in a row it really falls under the same concept even more. Can't wait to see totk's next trailer. I am betting on it being released on March 22nd!

 

[TheCongressman]

However, there may be way for BotW to be in the Adult Timeline. Some dialogue from the Great Deku Tree in Wind Waker, suggesting a 'restoration' of Hyrule.

Speaking of the Deku Tree, this is pretty interesting:




It's not a new concept, like recently Elden Ring's Erd Tree, so it's surprising to me I hadn't considered it before. Deku Tree could be seen as Hyrule's World Tree.

That quote from WW is interesting in this context as well. The Deku Tree obviously couldn't spread root under the sea floor, so he needs to start new forests. And I think the wording is important, forests, not to grow individual new Deku trees.

 

[BY2K]

Speaking of the Deku Tree, this is pretty interesting:




It's not a new concept, like recently Elden Ring's Erd Tree, so it's surprising to me I hadn't considered it before. Deku Tree could be seen as Hyrule's World Tree.

That quote from WW is interesting in this context as well. The Deku Tree obviously couldn't spread root under the sea floor, so he needs to start new forests. And I think the wording is important, forests, not to grow individual new Deku trees.

The last segment is pretty depressing considering we have yet to catch a single glimpse of the Deku Tree in TotK trailers.

 

[Kevin360]

Eventide Islamd.

I just spent all last night and tonight playing around on that island having a blast, and decided to go ahead and finish it up. Then the Hinox one shots me with a bit stomp? I have like 20 hearts. WTF.

I literally sat there in complete shock.

 

[HockeyBird]

"Nintendo's Cancellation of TotK DLC Confirms it is BoTW DLC?"

If Nintendo is cancelling DLC and TotK is DLC, does that mean TotK has been cancelled?

 

[Serif]

Interesting,.this indicates portions of Akkala Citadel have been rebuilt.

 

[chocolate_supra]

If Nintendo is cancelling DLC and TotK is DLC, does that mean TotK has been cancelled?

goddamn cancel culture smh my head

 

[Dardan Sandiego]

Good video, though I'm not really sure I buy the theory that Akkala Citadel was rebuilt and fell into decay again.

 

[Stinky Horse]

This location confirms that the moon is travelling through the south of the sky too. Not too surprising, but in the bokoblin plateau scenes, the moonlight is coming from the north.

 

[Serif]

This location confirms that the moon is travelling through the south of the sky too. Not too surprising, but in the bokoblin plateau scenes, the moonlight is coming from the north.

The Plateau seems to have been in an earlier state in those scenes too, before falling into decay.

I think some of what we're seen is flashbacks, but as Looyigi Bros pointed out this new structure in Akkala and a new road in Hyrule Field, parts of Hyrule are definitely being rebuilt.

 

[Bonejack]

Good video, though I'm not really sure I buy the theory that Akkala Citadel was rebuilt and fell into decay again.

Imagine Zelda tasked Bolson with rebuilding it, who of course delegates it to Hudson, right after he built a whole fucking town. Then, after he's done restoring Akkala Fortress, Mummydorf comes and destroys it.

BotW 3 villain origin story, right there.

 

[spelga51]

can someone explain the sun/moon location changes?

 

[Stinky Horse]

can someone explain the sun/moon location changes?

In Botw, sun and moon go across the north of the sky from east to west, In what they've shown of Totk they go across the south of the sky instead, so all the shadows are different.
Good job the sun was in the right place when those shadow puzzles appeared

 

[LukasManak22]

PAX is 21 days from now, so Treehouse gameplay from Nintendo before it. Pretty good if you ask me.

 

[LukasManak22]

All the trailers from 2021 onwards have sort of "two phases".

E3 2021 - Link's arm gets destroyed, malice, Zelda is falling.
September 2022 - Pictures on the wall.
February 2023 - Ganon is pissed and everything else.

Pretty safe to say that the last trailer will also have these "two phases."

 

[SMALLVILLE BOY]

The shoot of link observing the blood moon is from akkala citadel ruins not from the temple of time.

Toldya.

 

[Awesomegames23]

Wondering if Aonuma will present the Zelda OLED like how he presented the skyward sword edition joycons.