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Off the back of IGN’s comments on E3, who has said Nintendo has no big games to show there hence they weren’t going anyway? Or is this still the same comments from early this year?
 
MisterSpo said:
If Nintendo really have pulled out of E3 then I think the odds of this Direct having multiple announcements are higher. While there's the 'Nintendo no games' stuff floating around, the odds of their release calendar being actually empty after Zelda are slim to none; but outside of Pikmin 4 and maybe Advance Wars, there's nothing announced right now that seems a likely late 2023 title. In other words, if there's no E3 in June and Nintendo decide not to do a general presentation featuring their own games in the summer, they'd need to talk shop now.
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That’s what I said earlier. Because they might not really care to do anything big in June/July. They might just do a Mini then and we we get more than the usual announcements now that fill out most of the year. Though, to make sure we’re all on the same page it’s “no major titles after TOTK”.

Honestly, what “major” titles would we be expecting other than 3D Mario or 2D Mario? Every other major Nintendo franchise got a game and is too soon to get another one. Smash, AC, Splatoon, Mario Kart, Luigi’s Mansion are all here. Pokémon, will most likely be dlc.

I’m not sure if they think Metroid Prime 4 is a major title. I feel like that’s not coming until 2024 anyway. 2D Zelda I guess could be considered major depending on the person.
 
ITSMILNER said:
Off the back of IGN’s comments on E3, who has said Nintendo has no big games to show there hence they weren’t going anyway? Or is this still the same comments from early this year?
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Andy Robinson is the guy. “Not enough major titles to justify significant event space.” is the quote.
 
9-Volt said:
99% at Direct. So far all of their remaster announcements with exception of Tactics Ogre happened at Directs.

I expect 3 things from Square at the Direct:
  • Saga Emerald Beyond reveal
  • Dragon Quest III remake re-reveal and release date
  • Final Fantasy Tactics remaster reveal
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Agreed! After all, Square Enix has been having like, 3 to 5 announcements for every Direct. Except I'll be more conservative and say we'll get 1/2 of those tops; we are (almost) always surprised with stuff that hasn't been trademarked and/or leaked before.
 
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I think we’ll have a full-ish year for Nintendo still even if only one traditional Mario / DK game is the only five to ten million seller or whatever after Zelda.

I don’t really care for predicting the E3/June show until we see what we get here especially when we are seemingly less than ten days away at most from the current show. Like we’ll all finally be able to judge for ourselves soon how this year is actually shaping up which is cool.
 
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Dark Cloud said:
That’s what I said earlier. Because they might not really care to do anything big in June/July. They might just do a Mini then and we we get more than the usual announcements now that fill out most of the year. Though, to make sure we’re all on the same page it’s “no major titles after TOTK”.

Honestly, what “major” titles would we be expecting other than 3D Mario or 2D Mario? Every other major Nintendo franchise got a game and is too soon to get another one. Smash, AC, Splatoon, Mario Kart, Luigi’s Mansion are all here. Pokémon, will most likely be dlc.

I’m not sure if they think Metroid Prime 4 is a major title. I feel like that’s not coming until 2024 anyway. 2D Zelda I guess could be considered major depending on the person.
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I mean, I think 2D Mario is likely and is a major title. It's probably one of the biggest sellers Nintendo could bring out. I'm also wary of taking 'no major games after Zelda' at face value; plus you have Andy Robinson on Twitter saying "I understand Nintendo feels it doesn't have enough major releases ready to show that would justify significant event space." Frankly I'm not really convinced by this kind of argument; Nintendo have built an E3 booth around a single game in the past. I suspect it's moreso what IGN are saying (publisher relationships with ESA breaking down) and Nintendo being content and confident to do their own thing in their own time.

The things I could see are titles targeting the family market but which won't excite critics - a new Tomodachi has a real shot at being a 5 to 10 million seller; Mario Party has been huge on Switch and NdCube are probably due another game; if NdCube aren't on Mario Party, then I could see their next game being an Animal Crossing spin off and that would be a big hit. Would Tomodachi, Mario Party, or an Animal Crossing spin-off be counted as 'major titles'? I'm not sure. So I suspect that's what the second-half 2023 brings - mainstream, family market titles, DLC and remasters of stuff like Metroid Prime and perhaps F ZERO GX.

I do think there's a likelihood now that big titles like EPD DK, the next 3D Mario etc are 2024 for new hardware/cross-gen. I think the point I'm trying to make is Nintendo could easily have titles with mainstream, commercial appeal, but that they're not the core-facing journalist's idea of 'major titles', nor are they necessarily titles that would be a great fit for E3.
 
HockeyBird said:
E3 may be done.
To make room for the sequel
Now introducing the E4!
The Electronic Entertainment Expo...

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I miss Tak Fuji, he's such a ncie guy.
 
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The other funny point for me is: if Nintendo genuinely are in a position where they didn't have many major titles, then going so big in 2022 seems even odder. Though I guess we can now say the Zelda launch timing makes more sense - it's there in May because they're spacing out flagship launches.

I'm more and more of the mind that the year-end titles are going to be a mix out of 2D Mario, Tomodachi, and something from NdCube. Pikmin 4 hopefully makes it out in September, just ahead of holiday madness.

Edit - forgot Prime HD. I think October might be Metroid and Mario.
 
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Don’t forget, Andy Robinson also said Zelda TP/WW HD was 100% coming out last year…….. don’t put too much stock in these comments, we will have content from Nintendo throughout the year.
 
Half 2 is probably
Pikmin 4
2D Mario
Mario Party
Tomadachi Life 2
Metroid Prime Remaster
Detective Pikachu 2
Pokémon S/V dlc
Baten Kaitos Remake/Remaster
 
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that "Nintendo not having much after Zelda" actually coming from Chris Dring?
 
Us not getting a full direct does mean there's potential for the Spring direct to be beefier.

Though it also means the earlier this direct is, the longer we're gonna be going dry until September.

That said, it's our time to shine TEAM APRIL.
 
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Bonejack said:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that "Nintendo not having much after Zelda" actually coming from Chris Dring?
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Andy Robinson has said Nintendo pulled out of E3 because they didn't have many major titles for their potential booth.
 
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I talked to VGC and they say that while they can't offer me any legal tender as compensation, they can give me a hefty Famicoin bonus for publicly backing Robinson's doom.

With that being said, it's probably accurate. The Switch is actually on its way out, and with Tokyo saving their next game for new hardware options for significant software are limited. I suspect that the increased production is due to a doubling down on the OLED model, rather than compelling software.

(Now I wait for the wire transfer!)
 
Guys, this might be it.

According to at least 20 people, we might get a Nintendo Direct pretty soon.




If the Turrican Anthology patches are on their way "soon", then the Direct must be sooner than soon.
 
Pokemaniac said:
I really don't buy the narrative that Nintendo skipping E3 is because they don't have anything to show. That just reads like typical game journalist dooming around Nintendo wrt E3. If they felt the need to actually pull out, then it's probably either primarily because they have other plans or some beef with the organizers and/or the ESA about the event.
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My terrible hot take is that there are basically two ways to handle the end of a console (and subsequent transition to the next one): on a high (playstation style) or on a whimper (traditional Nintendo style). With TotK releasing in May and early rumblings for a Switch 2 release this year, I hoped they learned from Sony, who used TLoU and TLoU pt 2 to create sustained hype for the brand. But now that TotK seems to be a year out at least from a successor console, I think Nintendo is squarely in its old ways. Let the console die out and focus on a bang for the new one. So no big games after TotK.

For E3 though, I think that's only a small part of the reason. In general with Nintendo's success of using prerecorded Directs, as well as the rise of Keighley's venues and Gamescom, E3 probably just became way too expensive with too little RoI for the big three.
 
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I mean, Nintendo has showed up to E3 with way worse lineups in the past so I don't think it's that sole reason necessarily, either.

It could be part of the reason as showing up with a smaller lineup at a much less relevant show in 2023 may be less enticing for them to spend money on.
 
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I expect only Pikmin 4, new Mario Party and a couple of remasters for the rest of the year (Baten Kaitos, Metroid Prime, F-Zero and hopefully Kid Icarus Uprising).
 
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Similarly to the MK8D + DLC package that was new a few days ago, this just popped up overnight. I would expect this is a tweet today.

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I just think Nintendo may just have never liked E3 that much and just would love to do stuff on their terms, and may just seize opportunities such as how much of a joke E3 was for the last few years
 
If it was their choice, they would probably only have 2 general directs a year.

I suppose the more interesting factor at the moment is Kit's take in saying Nintendo/E3 are very tight and that he thinks there is likely more to the story.
 
JorgenRaft said:
If it was their choice, they would probably only have 2 general directs a year.

I suppose the more interesting factor at the moment is Kit's take in saying Nintendo/E3 are very tight and that he thinks there is likely more to the story.
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Oh, is that so? Then maybe it has to do with how E3 management has changed, IIRC they rely on the same guys who manages New York Comic Con and the likes and maybe Nintendo is not as much of a fan for probably private reasons and probably some "clashing"
 
So what if it's the other way around and they have so much stuff to show E3 would be too small of an event for it 🤔
 
Today's direct announcement will symbolize the union of #TeamJanuary and #TeamFebruary as we will get the announcement in January and the show in February. Both teams win. World peace is achieved. Humanity will reach type 1 civilization.
 
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