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Discussion Nate Drake hints about F zero in 2023.

If this is just an F-Zero GX port I'm gonna be kinda sad. Nintendo would be fumbling not to cash in on Captain Falcons smash bros fame. F-Zero x GTA lite where falcon just beats mfs up on the side while racing in GP's, Street Races etc. Hopefully whatever it is makes them try to do more with the IP
 
If I remember correctly, it didn't sell that bad for GameCube standards, it's just Nintendo abandoned "hard" games when the Wii era, started IMO. (not talking about the portable ones, those sold very poorly, but f zero has always been about spectacle, so, handhelds didn't offer that until the switch)
 
John_DF said:
If I remember correctly, it didn't sell that bad for GameCube standards, it's just Nintendo abandoned "hard" games when the Wii era, started IMO. (not talking about the portable ones, those sold very poorly, but f zero has always been about spectacle, so, handhelds didn't offer that until the switch)
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all we know is that GX sold under 1M on GCN. it probably wasn't a cheap game to make, which is why it got put on ice

as for handheld spectacle, I'd argue the 3DS would have been the perfect device for it. downporting GX and adding 3D would have made eyeballs pop out of heads
 
John_DF said:
If I remember correctly, it didn't sell that bad for GameCube standards, it's just Nintendo abandoned "hard" games when the Wii era, started IMO. (not talking about the portable ones, those sold very poorly, but f zero has always been about spectacle, so, handhelds didn't offer that until the switch)
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It sold pretty bad even for a gamecube game. The biggest problem with the series is that it has been in a downward spiral since the beginning (with every game selling less and less ending with the disaster that were the GBA games) so it just wasn't a priority
Tbh the fact that it never had a WiiU hd game is kind of strange but looking at games like star fox zero it probably was for the better, with the focus switch we had from the wii era to the switch I think now is the perfect time to give hd f-zero a shot.
 
Kartina said:
It sold pretty bad even for a gamecube game. The biggest problem with the series is that it has been in a downward spiral since the beginning (with every game selling less and less ending with the disaster that were the GBA games) so it just wasn't a priority
Tbh the fact that it never had a WiiU hd game is kind of strange but looking at games like star fox zero it probably was for the better, with the focus switch we had from the wii era to the switch I think now is the perfect time to give hd f-zero a shot.
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Given the downward spiraling sales, it's not that strange. The series wasn't selling well and no one with clout felt like championing a brand new one.
 
Hailinel said:
Given the downward spiraling sales, it's not that strange. The series wasn't selling well and no one with clout felt like championing a brand new one.
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Yeah even if an f-zero hd would have been a good point to bring back the series it just shows how low priority f-zero has become from Nintendo
 
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Who do we think would be remastering GX? Tantalus? Shin'en remastering it with Fast RMX graphics is my fanfic dream but I know ain't happening.
 
I don't know why people bring up Shin'en. FAST isn't even close to be as good. RGG or bust.
Edit: Also legit would be Sumo Digital.
 
People just need to give up the fantasy of Shin'en making F-Zero. They have explicitly said they don't want to make F-Zero.
 
MondoMega said:
Seeing as Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe is completely revamping the visual look of that game in favor of something more stylized (applying to even the key art), I wouldn't rule out of possibility of an F-Zero GX rerelease trying the same thing. I think fully embracing the American comic book aesthetic the series has always aimed for could look stunning; though it really depends on the scope of the project, and if they plan on remaking all of those pre-rendered videos.
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A visual revamp that also includes some changes in style and art would be the dream!!
I'm mostly expecting more of an upres with new lighting and textures, but seeing how Nintendo is handling the remaster of a newer Wii game, it kinda gives me some hope of a more ambitious remaster.
 
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ILikeFeet said:
Tantalus would be a good option. Shinen has said they don't want to work on F-Zero. besides they don't have the manpower for that
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Tantalus sounds like a very good candidate to me and they haven't done anything for Nintendo since Skyward Sword HD (an incredible job btw).
 
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So, could we possibly get

Nintendo Direct Mini in January - I say mini as it would be Fire Emblem Engage, Metroid Prime HD, F-Zero GX HD and the Kirby remake HD and then maybe a couple third party ports.

Nintendo Direct in March that is mainly focused on TotK

Nintendo Direct in June for E3 to showcase Pikmin 4 and the rest of the 2nd half 2023 line up.
 
ITSMILNER said:
So, could we possibly get

Nintendo Direct Mini in January - I say mini as it would be Fire Emblem Engage, Metroid Prime HD, F-Zero GX HD and the Kirby remake HD and then maybe a couple third party ports.

Nintendo Direct in March that is mainly focused on TotK

Nintendo Direct in June for E3 to showcase Pikmin 4 and the rest of the 2nd half 2023 line up.
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I wouldn't be against it, but I don't see why they wouldn't go with a general direct right away in January.
 
Marce-chan said:
I wouldn't be against it, but I don't see why they wouldn't go with a general direct right away in January.
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Same, the only reason they would do a Mini with so much quality content would be to prevent people from expecting ToTK at this Direct. And, I just thought about it but the Mini format is used to show games coming very soon, and ToTK is coming very soon, so I don't know.

But a Mini could still be a good way to prevent people from expecting ToTK at this Direct, and announce games coming after ToTK so they can fully focus on it once they're ready.

But I feel like we won't have to wait a lot more, they won't wait until march to show it again, lmao. I expect two main trailers (after all the teasers we got), one this month and one in march/april, without counting some small trailers mixing new footage and old footage.
 
I don't feel that a GX Remaster/Remake makes any sense. The amount of work that would have to go into making it look impressive on the Switch might as well go towards an iterative sequel with a new name that could very well reuse the vehicles, tracks, and systems of GX/AX (while dropping all the story mode stuff).
 
em said:
I don't feel that a GX Remaster/Remake makes any sense. The amount of work that would have to go into making it look impressive on the Switch might as well go towards an iterative sequel with a new name that could very well reuse the vehicles, tracks, and systems of GX/AX (while dropping all the story mode stuff).
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if they have access to the source code, I could see a Crisis Core Reunion-esque glow-up
 
catonkatonk said:
The mention of source mode makes me wonder about Sega's involvement...
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Yeah, SEGA co-owns the source code (the game runs on the same engine as Monkey Ball, after all) and the new elements introduced to the series.

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But I wouldn't worry about it; they are pretty happy to give the license of their own IPs (see Shenmue, Wonder Boy). If Nintendo wants to make F-Zero GX R, it's only free money for SEGA.
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
Who are you referring to? I agree the cheesiness is 100% intentional but wasn't aware of any hate behind it.
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Nagoshi isn't particularly interested in Nintendo hardware. he did say he was open to do a remake of GX but one could assume that was just him being open to a paycheck
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
Who are you referring to? I agree the cheesiness is 100% intentional but wasn't aware of any hate behind it.
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There isn't. People just like to make baseless conjecture about GX's producer Toshihiro Nagoshi because he doesn't think the Switch is an attractive platform.
 
I wonder who’s making it. A GX remake doesn’t really excite me that much, but like all remakes I hope it becomes a Samus Returns situation where it is used as training wheels for a development to make their own entry. Still really holding out for that to be true with 2D Zelda and Grezzo too.
 
em said:
I don't feel that a GX Remaster/Remake makes any sense. The amount of work that would have to go into making it look impressive on the Switch might as well go towards an iterative sequel with a new name that could very well reuse the vehicles, tracks, and systems of GX/AX (while dropping all the story mode stuff).
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It's not that tough to get GX looking impressive even today. Run it at high resolution, replace at least some of the textures. Certainly a lot easier to do simply and well than designing a bunch of new content.
 
ILikeFeet said:
all we know is that GX sold under 1M on GCN. it probably wasn't a cheap game to make, which is why it got put on ice

as for handheld spectacle, I'd argue the 3DS would have been the perfect device for it. downporting GX and adding 3D would have made eyeballs pop out of heads
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F-Zero GX later got a Player's Choice label, which means it probably passed a million copies. Nagoshi said it got to 1.5 million.
 
carlosfilho said:
F-Zero GX later got a Player's Choice label, which means it probably passed a million copies. Nagoshi said it got to 1.5 million.
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The players choice branding had a lower threshold then. Nintendo never reported the game selling over 1M units so Nagoshi was wrong
 
ViewtifulCereza said:
Utter nonesense, Nagoshi said he would love to work on another F-Zero. Beside he left Sega. if anything Sega was involved it would be current RGG without him. Maybe it was Sega holding back though? Maybe he can do it know...
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but before those Switch comments came out I always felt that whoever made the F-Zero GX story mode was taking the piss. Especially with the later stages.
 
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ViewtifulCereza said:
Utter nonesense, Nagoshi said he would love to work on another F-Zero. Beside he left Sega. if anything Sega was involved it would be current RGG without him. Maybe it was Sega holding back though? Maybe he can do it know...
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work on games for Switch? nah, that was Nagoshi. he was in charge of many games and could have had switch versions for them but didn't
 
I could see this being a Tantalus job, but I'm hoping Nintendo have contracted somebody else. A new partnership might result in other fun things down the line, while with Tantalus it seems we get fairly light touch remasters. I'm sure that's down to what Nintendo want from Tantalus, of course.

Somebody here mentioned Sumo Digital as a possibility - that'd be pretty interesting and a good fit. They're a fairly large developer, too, so an ongoing partnership with Nintendo could be on the cards even without Sumo needing to give up their other work.
 
Sure Nate.

The dude has less credibility in mind at this point than your random Redditor who claims that has an uncle working at Nintendo.
 
MisterSpo said:
I could see this being a Tantalus job, but I'm hoping Nintendo have contracted somebody else. A new partnership might result in other fun things down the line, while with Tantalus it seems we get fairly light touch remasters. I'm sure that's down to what Nintendo want from Tantalus, of course.

Somebody here mentioned Sumo Digital as a possibility - that'd be pretty interesting and a good fit. They're a fairly large developer, too, so an ongoing partnership with Nintendo could be on the cards even without Sumo needing to give up their other work.
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I don't see Sumo giving anything Tantalus couldn't give. Nintendo wanted something specific for Twilight Princess HD, and they might ask the same here.

that said, if there's an F-Zero GX remaster, I wonder if it will follow in the footsteps of Kirby Return to Dreamland, Advance Wars, and Metroid Prime 1. in that these are enhanced ports/remakes with new assets
 
ILikeFeet said:
I don't see Sumo giving anything Tantalus couldn't give. Nintendo wanted something specific for Twilight Princess HD, and they might ask the same here.

that said, if there's an F-Zero GX remaster, I wonder if it will follow in the footsteps of Kirby Return to Dreamland, Advance Wars, and Metroid Prime 1. in that these are enhanced ports/remakes with new assets
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Well yeah, I'm assuming that if someone else is doing it, it's because they either had a particular pitch that Nintendo liked, or because Nintendo felt that company had something unique to offer.
 
Arrietty said:
Honestly a shame none of the games in the SNES catalogue got a 3D Classics remake. I can't believe they wasted one on Urban Champions of all things.
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That's the best one! The progression really elevates it, put probably 4 or 5 hours in last year alone. I'd say the worst is probably Kirby's Adventure from a 3D aspect, but Kirby's Adventure is a great game regardless.
 
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