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Rumour Pokémon Scarlet and Violet Leaks/Spoilers

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Is there any footage of these ability nerfs in action? I'm hearing lots of conflicting things.

Edit: Protean did get nerfed.

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Bonejack said:
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Looks like Intimidate wasn't nerfed?
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I've been told neither Defiant oor Contrary are actually nerfed so I'm waiting until I see proof. Intimidate being nerfed doesn't really make sense to me anyways, no on-entry ability has ever functioned like that and it'd be more like a consumable item at that point (which could still be the case, just seems odd)
 
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Hah, he Bisharp evo has a special ability that makes it's Atk and SpA stronger the more Pokemon in your team have been defeated.

Basically, it's a revenge Pokemon to come in and clear after everything else failed.
 
Bonejack said:
Hah, he Bisharp evo has a special ability that makes it's Atk and SpA stronger the more Pokemon in your team have been defeated.

Basically, it's a revenge Pokemon to come in and clear after everything else failed.
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Woah. That sounds OP.
 
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Leica said:
Is there any footage of these ability nerfs in action? I'm hearing lots of conflicting things.

Edit: Protean did get nerfed.

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My first thought was "oof, that makes Meowscarada significantly less good competitively" but then I thought for a second and realized, no, it's just a natural-born scarfer
 
Leica said:
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Intimidate lives. Incineroar and Landorus-T rejoice.
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Funny that they would nerf Protean and not Intimidate. Though the Protean change could also be argued as a bit of a buff for defensive uses.

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So once but it resets with withdraw? Interesting. With that and the obvious Grass/Dark weakness that @hologram pointed out earlier in the thread, seems like Meowscarada might be a switch-in/switch-out dance in VGC.
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Could be fun if it gets Parting Shot.
 
Weebos said:
Funny that they would nerf Protean and not Intimidate. Though the Protean change could also be argued as a bit of a buff for defensive uses.
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I don't think the purported Intimidate nerf made sense. Abilities always are entry-based, not a use-it-once-and-it's-done thing

Protean, Contrary and Defiant hurt a little, but I can understand the decision
 
hologram said:
My first thought was "oof, that makes Meowscarada significantly less good competitively" but then I thought for a second and realized, no, it's just a natural-born scarfer
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Yeah, for singles it's not actually that significant of a nerf, Greninja was often used as a scarfer already anyways. Hurts Cinderace some though.
 
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hologram said:
I don't think the purported Intimidate nerf made sense. Abilities always are entry-based, not a use-it-once-and-it's-done thing

Protean, Contrary and Defiant hurt a little, but I can understand the decision
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Mechanically I agree, but from a power perspective Intimidate is arguably the strongest ability in VGC, so it makes sense they would want to try to nerf it again (after adding Intimidate immunity to a bunch of abilities in Gen 8).
 
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hologram said:
I don't think the purported Intimidate nerf made sense. Abilities always are entry-based, not a use-it-once-and-it's-done thing

Protean, Contrary and Defiant hurt a little, but I can understand the decision
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Contrary and Defiant are unchanged AFAIK.
 
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Looks like Battle Bond is still in the game, which I assume confirms Greninja is in (even if only HOME transferable), and implies that Delphox and Chesnaught will make it too.
 
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Hang on, Primordial Sea is also shown in one of the screenshots. I assume this is an ingame menu, maybe it's just showing all abilities coded in.

That or Primal Kyogre is back (or they replaced Drizzle for Kyogre).
 
Weebos said:
Hang on, Primordial Sea is also shown in one of the screenshots. I assume this is an ingame menu, maybe it's just showing all abilities coded in.

That or Primal Kyogre is back (or they replaced Drizzle for Kyogre).
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I've read a tweet that said that all non-regional Paldeadex Pokemon are going to be Home transferable. So this could be GF building ahead by already supporting all existing abilities?
 
Bonejack said:
I've read a tweet that said that all non-regional Paldeadex Pokemon are going to be Home transferable. So this could be GF building ahead by already supporting all existing abilities?
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It's possible it's just that, especially considering this isn't the launch version of the game.

It's just odd they would include Primordial Sea specifically because it's tied to a mechanic they excluded from Sword and Shield.

I could also see them just giving the Primal abilities to the Weather trio to buff them up (not that Kyogre or Groudon need it).
 
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Yeah thats possible. They've also changed Battle Bond, it's just a spectrum stat buff after defeating an enemy now.
 
Watched a bit of one of the streams, looks like the central crater is called Area Zero, and you need to complete all three paths in order to go there (Arven mentions needing a team of people, that just so happens to line up with the main NPCs of each path).
 
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Hail was bad because it only benefitted Ice-types and Ice is a bad defensive type, Aurora Veil was big because you set it up with Ice-types and then good Pokémon could use it. Don't see snow as being better unless it can provided benefits for non Ice-types, though lack of chip is arguably a plus in that respect
 
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Weebos said:
Holy shit, Tropius is standing on the ground in battle! The curse of XY may be over?
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it's so weird that tropious was flying in its animation anyway. i get that flying is it's schtick, but still. it looks so silly with its legs up and it's leaf wings straight out like that.
 
Bonejack said:
Yeah thats possible. They've also changed Battle Bond, it's just a spectrum stat buff after defeating an enemy now.
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I'm not sure they have changed Battle Bond, I think it's just a wording change (unless theres footage of it in which case I'm wrong)
 
Leica said:
I'm not sure they have changed Battle Bond, I think it's just a wording change (unless theres footage of it in which case I'm wrong)
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Apparently Ash-Greninja doesn't even have data in the game, so it does appear to have changed
 
The streamer just got attacked by a Scream Tail in Area Zero, seems they weren't allowed to catch it. It's part of the story progression down there.
 
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Lots of Pokemon I love in the dex, but come onnnnn full datamine. I want to see the stats/abilities/movepools!
 
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are the paradox mons gonna be catchable like how the distortion mons were in arceus? hopefully not. If there's one thing I didn't like about arceus it was waiting for those darn distortions to spawn and then hoping the rng gods showed mercy and gave you the distortion mon you were looking for.
 
Red Monster said:
are the paradox mons gonna be catchable like how the distortion mons were in arceus? hopefully not. If there's one thing I didn't like about arceus it was waiting for those darn distortions to spawn and then hoping the rng gods showed mercy and gave you the distortion mon you were looking for.
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They seemed to just be wild like other Pokemon so far, they haven't completed this story yet though.

Also Slither Wing stands on two legs lmao.

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The streamer has hit the real big plot spoilers, so I'd be careful if you care about that.
 
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I've only been glancing at the stream here and there, but it's wild that they followed up SwSh with this. From what I've seen, this story is on a whole different level and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up the best Pokemon story
 
V_ac said:
Is there a full Pokedex list yet?

I've already seen all the new ones, I just want know which of my old Pokemon are coming back.
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Not yet, I don't think the proper datamining has begun (or at least it hasn't been made public yet).
 
NabiscoFelt said:
I've only been glancing at the stream here and there, but it's wild that they followed up SwSh with this. From what I've seen, this story is on a whole different level and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up the best Pokemon story
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as long as radicalsoda isn't able to make a four hour video about why the story in sv sucks then i feel like game freak has succeeded
 
It's disappointing you can't really enter any houses and that all shops just default to menu screens instead of having an interior. Just from watching the stream the world is kind of what I feared, very dead/uninteractive.

Edit: I don't think there's any explorable interiors which is kinda weird but whatever lol.
 
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SammyJ9 said:
WE HAVE STATS

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What's the source on these? Very similar to gen 7 where the majority of Pokemon have awful stats except for the batch of postgame ones that are pretty minmaxed. Tinkaton is tragic if this is real.
 
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