• Hey everyone, staff have documented a list of banned content and subject matter that we feel are not consistent with site values, and don't make sense to host discussion of on Famiboards. This list (and the relevant reasoning per item) is viewable here.
  • Do you have audio editing experience and want to help out with the Famiboards Discussion Club Podcast? If so, we're looking for help and would love to have you on the team! Just let us know in the Podcast Thread if you are interested!

Reviews Xenoblade Chronicles 3 | Review Thread (see staff post)

Reader mode
WestEgg said:
More surprised Torna is only 80, that’s potentially the least divisive one of the lot.
Click to expand...
Same. Possibly because it's an expansion sold as a stand-alone, and so tightly integrated into the lore of XC2? Most folks I talk to seem to think it's the best execution of the concepts introduced in that game.
 
0
WestEgg said:
More surprised Torna is only 80, that’s potentially the least divisive one of the lot.
Click to expand...

I guess it's the sidequest thing, people seem to REALLY hate being forced to do stuff like that

the completionist in me will never agree with that since I pretty much do them all anyways but it is what it is
 
Chaos Theory said:
Quite interesting for someone to throw out the word 'dumb', in a Metacritic thread, in defence of a series where the first entry scored 92 and the second scored 83 — a 9 point drop.
Click to expand...

Metacritic can often be meaningless. XC Definitve Edition I would consider superior to the Wii version in every way and it scored in the 80's.

XC2 is like only 6 points beneath. So using your Metacritic score logic, I think you mean you hope the series stays "on track."

That is if we think these sites that average review scores have any bearing on how games like this land with their core audience in the first place.
 
Mr.Fletcher said:
Reading reviews is fun, but let’s not take them too seriously. How this game lands with its core audience is more important than what 100ish people think.
Click to expand...

it always strikes me as a bit silly when people get super serious about whether an aggregate score will end up in the low 80s versus the mid 80s or high 80s

I am looking forward to reading some impressions of the game though
 
Warlord said:
Tbf about torna, having to do boring sidequests to progress the story is a horrible design decision that I can see annoying quite a few people.
Click to expand...
Yeah, especially if you're a reviewer under a timeline who's probably avoiding most side quests up till that point and is further punished for ignoring them.
 
BradenAndEggs said:
Metacritic can often be meaningless. XC Definitve Edition I would consider superior to the Wii version in every way and it scored in the 80's.

XC2 is like only 6 points beneath. So using your Metacritic score logic, I think you mean you hope the series stays "on track."

That is if we think these sites that average review scores have any bearing on how games like this land with their core audience in the first place.
Click to expand...

Yes, metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes, which are usually penalised temporally because story moments do not hit as hard or because state-of-the-art features have since become the status quo. Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).

To pretend that the 9 point drop from 92 to 83 isn't a fall from grace is ludicrous — that is two points greater difference between the 7 points dropped between Halo 3 and 4, and we've all seen the state the Halo series is in now.

If BotW 2 scored in the mid/low 80s, Anouma would be chased down the street.
 
Chaos Theory said:
Quite interesting for someone to throw out the word 'dumb', in a Metacritic thread, in defence of a series where the first entry scored 92 and the second scored 83 — a 9 point drop.
Click to expand...

How will Xenoblade survive now that the third entry has a smaller meaningless number, it will surely stop having fans :cry:

If he was still alive trains would arrive on time Xenoblade would be a 92 MC only franchise…
 
0
Chaos Theory said:
Yes, metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes, which are usually penalised temporally because story moments do not hit as hard or because state-of-the-art features have since become the status quo. Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community.

To pretend that the 9 point drop from 92 to 83 isn't a fall from grace is ludicrous — that is two points greater difference between the 7 points dropped between Halo 3 and 4, and we've all seen the state the Halo series is in now.

If BotW 2 scored in the mid/low 80s, Anouma would be chased down the street.
Click to expand...
This is why # review scores need to be abolished and replaced with no tl;dr summary or a general "recommend or don't recommend".
 
There's no way this will score below 2, it just wouldn't make sense. Reviews are obviously not going to prevent fans of the series from enjoying the game obviously but scoring worse than 2 would bring the trolls out in full force.
 
Chaos Theory said:
Yes, metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes, which are usually penalised temporally because story moments do not hit as hard or because state-of-the-art features have since become the status quo. Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).

To pretend that the 9 point drop from 92 to 83 isn't a fall from grace is ludicrous — that is two points greater difference between the 7 points dropped between Halo 3 and 4, and we've all seen the state the Halo series is in now.

If BotW 2 scored in the mid/low 80s, Anouma would be chased down the street.
Click to expand...
I think you could argue that XC2 significantly outselling every other Xeno-title is probably the only validation it needs.

Dunban said:
There's no way this will score below 2, it just wouldn't make sense. Reviews are obviously not going to prevent fans of the series from enjoying the game obviously but scoring worse than 2 would bring the trolls out in full force.
Click to expand...
I agree that a 1 or 0 Metascore would be very disappointing.
 
0
Chaos Theory said:
Yes, metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes, which are usually penalised temporally because story moments do not hit as hard or because state-of-the-art features have since become the status quo. Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).
Click to expand...
Wish I had had a drink so I could have choked on it (before reading this post, that is).
 
Chaos Theory said:
Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch
Click to expand...

rovakook.gif
 
Chaos Theory said:
Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).
Click to expand...
…Tropical Freeze is widely regarded as one of the best platformers ever made.
 
Brock Reiher said:
I don't know, this is why I love them. You get posts like the one you quoted lmao
Click to expand...
I didn't even process the post I quoted fully when it said "tropical freeze deserved average 7/10 review scores" or I would have posted the same gif mighty poo did.
 
Chaos Theory said:
Yes, metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes, which are usually penalised temporally because story moments do not hit as hard or because state-of-the-art features have since become the status quo. Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).

To pretend that the 9 point drop from 92 to 83 isn't a fall from grace is ludicrous — that is two points greater difference between the 7 points dropped between Halo 3 and 4, and we've all seen the state the Halo series is in now.

If BotW 2 scored in the mid/low 80s, Anouma would be chased down the street.
Click to expand...

Oh, Metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes. Got it. I didn't realize that. Anything else I should arbitrarily ignore?

Also, a less than ten-point drop being considered a "fall from grace" just made my day. Thank you!
 
BradenAndEggs said:
Oh, Metacritic scores are meaningless for remakes. Got it. I didn't realize that. Anything else I should arbitrarily ignore?

Also, a less than ten-point drop being considered a "fall from grace" just made my day. Thank you!
Click to expand...

So if the second remake of TLOU is panned because of its high price point and short time since the last remake, then that makes the original TLOU a terrible game?

lol?

But, of course, that is an arbitrary criteria apparently, and yet the difference between 10 points and 9 points somehow isn't...
 
0
Chaos Theory said:
Take also into account games such as Tropical Freeze, rightly given average scores by big publications (Edge, 7; Eurogamer, 7) on launch, but, in Eurogamer's case, were pressured by the fans to 'correct' their original opinion, lest face the wrath of the community (not that it saved TF in the end, mind).
Click to expand...
What are you even on about? A different member of staff reviewed the Switch version of the game 5 years later and had a different opinion to a different person from 5 years ago, who played the game in a different context on different hardware.

Xenoblade threads bring out the worst takes without even being pure Xenoblade discourse.
 
Hoping this does well and people are happy with the game. This has been a weird but understated and solid year for the Switch and adding another quality game to the year would be great to see.

Brock Reiher said:
It inspired the "best jrpg of all time" Xenoblade 3
Click to expand...
Ok I LOLed
 
MisterSpo said:
What are you even on about? A different member of staff reviewed the Switch version of the game 5 years later and had a different opinion to a different person from 5 years ago, who played the game in a different context on different hardware.

Xenoblade threads bring out the worst takes without even being pure Xenoblade discourse.
Click to expand...
Here let me throw out some more fun hot takes just to get them in the thread

Xenoblade 2 would have scored better if it toned down the anime tiddy

Xenoblade 2 only scored as well as it did due to anime tiddy

There now everyone is upset
 
i sense that were getting way too off-topic here. let's bring the discussion back to reviews of xenoblade 3 which will be out in a few minutes.
 
BassForever said:
Here let me throw out some more fun hot takes just to get them in the thread

Xenoblade 2 would have scored better if it toned down the anime tiddy

Xenoblade 2 only scored as well as it did due to anime tiddy

There now everyone is upset
Click to expand...
Xenoblade 3 only scored as well as it did because it rejected everything about Xenoblade 2 and returned to the principles of the first game

Xenoblade 3 only scored as well as it did because it rejected everything about Xenoblade 1 and returned to the principles of Xenoblade 2

Xenoblade 3 only scored as well as it did because the series finally acknowledged Xenoblade X

now all the bases are covered
 
Reader mode
You must log in or register to reply here.
Please see the threadmarked staff post. Thank you.


Back
Top Bottom