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Rumour Metroid Prime remaster/remake planned for 2022 (UPDATE: new rumor from Jeff Grubb, see threadmarks)

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Selarmor said:
That doesn't make any sense. It's a GameCube game. It's design is clearly not constrained by the base Switch since it was developed with 2001 hardware in mind. Just crank up the resolution/framerate/effects on the new model.
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Is Prime 4 a GameCube game?
 
Blue Monty said:
Early on the resources were split between finishing Prime 1 HD remaster and Prime 4, I think the game will not come until 2024 especially because Retro at the start wasn’t big enough to support such a big project and it has needed to be on a constant hiring spree to achieve the size needed.
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Add COVID delays to that as well. Not only just due to the expected issues there, but also the difficulty in onboarding a lot of new people has they staffed up for Prime 4. Definitely wouldn't be surprised if it's a 2024 game.

Blue Monty said:
Considering the game has been in development at first with Switch in mind don’t think making it Drake exclusive would change anything important, Switch can’t hold back the game when the game was made for it
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Kind of a weird situation though. Given that Prime 1 was still in dev at least until late last year, then not much may have been done on Prime 4 until the remake was complete. In context of that, coupled with COVID, and what we know about dev kits, it could be that Prime 4 has become a Switch 2 exclusive. I doubt it, but it's definitely had a weird dev cycle so who knows.
 
Instro said:
Kind of a weird situation though. Given that Prime 1 was still in dev at least until late last year, then not much may have been done on Prime 4 until the remake was complete. In context of that, coupled with COVID, and what we know about dev kits, it could be that Prime 4 has become a Switch 2 exclusive. I doubt it, but it's definitely had a weird dev cycle so who knows.
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I don't know that making it exclusive to the Switch successor would be a logical move, from a financial standpoint. They wouldn't sacrifice the existing Switch install base, especially considering the amount of time and money they've put into the project, right? The game needs to sell well, at least by Metroid standards.
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
So what Nintendo actually is doing is waiting for each game's respective 20th anniversary to release it's corresponding remaster. This will be mixed in with spinoffs and mainline entries and we are going to be eating yearly Metroid for the rest of the decade.

Metroid Prime Remastered: 2022
Metroid Prime 4: 2023
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes Remastered: 2024
Metroid 6: 2025
Metroid Tomagotchi by Bandai Namco: 2026
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption Remastered: 2027
Metroid Prime 5: 2028
Metroid 7: 2029
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My god... it's beautiful
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
So what Nintendo actually is doing is waiting for each game's respective 20th anniversary to release it's corresponding remaster. This will be mixed in with spinoffs and mainline entries and we are going to be eating yearly Metroid for the rest of the decade.

Metroid Prime Remastered: 2022
Metroid Prime 4: 2023
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes Remastered: 2024
Metroid 6: 2025
Metroid Tomagotchi by Bandai Namco: 2026
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption Remastered: 2027
Metroid Prime 5: 2028
Metroid 7: 2029
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We do not deserve this timeline.
 
byDoS said:
Now that he's done with the Metroid arc/saga, do you guys think Sakamoto will change the name of the future games?

Samus' Adventure: Departure
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Seriously doubt Nintendo will allow a title change for metroid

Koren Lesthe said:
Oh, so you’re working on Metroid 6 ? Can you tell us more, please ?
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I can tell you that Sakamoto's games are rife with plot inconsistencies and constant lore changes which has been the case for the last 20 years, even without considering the disaster which was other M's internal consistency with the rest of the series.
 
Zeal543 said:
Seriously doubt Nintendo will allow a title change for metroid


I can tell you that Sakamoto's games are rife with plot inconsistencies and constant lore changes which has been the case for the last 20 years, even without considering the disaster which was other M's internal consistency with the rest of the series.
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Sakamoto is mediocre writer at best and a disaster at worse. When is Warren Spector coming to retro smh
 
Mr Doggo said:
Sakamoto is mediocre writer at best and a disaster at worse. When is Warren Spector coming to retro smh
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Nintendo has access to multiple of the best writers in the industry, they just don’t care about the history of the games more than to use it as a tool to justify the world of the game.
 
Zeal543 said:
Seriously doubt Nintendo will allow a title change for metroid


I can tell you that Sakamoto's games are rife with plot inconsistencies and constant lore changes which has been the case for the last 20 years, even without considering the disaster which was other M's internal consistency with the rest of the series.
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I remember an interview where retro presented their take on bounty hunting with samus to NOJ, and there ended up being mass confusion, apparently, bounty hunter as a concept was just a cooler sounding word for super hero to Nintendo of Japan, so they had extreme distaste for samus getting paid to be a hero as a job, instead of just seeking out and righting injustice wherever she goes, cause she's a hero and that's what heroes do, as Sakamoto had to come in to explain.

Something I always found a little strange, as I remember this being just a little while after cowboy bebop exploded.

That being said I don't know how I'd feel about having to catch space pirates and turn them in, so I can keep a steady supply of beef and peppers for samus to subsist on.
 
byDoS said:
Now that he's done with the Metroid arc/saga, do you guys think Sakamoto will change the name of the future games?

Samus' Adventure: Departure
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Samus is now the last Metroid, so they can keep the name and have it make sense, even if the floating alien parasites themselves never actually show up again.
Zeal543 said:
I can tell you that Sakamoto's games are rife with plot inconsistencies and constant lore changes which has been the case for the last 20 years, even without considering the disaster which was other M's internal consistency with the rest of the series.
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That's more an issue with the series as a whole, honestly. Not really fair to place lore breaks, canon violations, and inconsistencies on Sakamoto alone, when Prime 1 shipped two different versions, each with their own different lore scans, and there's still, to this day, no concrete answer as to the origins of the Metroid inside Tallon IV's Leviathan. If it came from Phaaze, that doesn't really line up with the Thoha creating them on SR388.
 
Josh5890 said:
We do not deserve this timeline.
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Speak for yourself, I have been a very good boy the last 21 years and I demand compensation

byDoS said:
Now that he's done with the Metroid arc/saga, do you guys think Sakamoto will change the name of the future games?

Samus' Adventure: Departure
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He's bringing on Tetsuya Nomura as co-writer for Metroid 6: Federation Hearts - 358/2 Cycles
 
ElisaurusWrecks said:
I think just a solid modern remastering of the original tracks would be plenty. Uncivilized G'rooves is still the GOAT sample pack and the Prime games would be practically unrecognizable without them.
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Yeah. A remastered soundtrack would be my choice. The music, hell the entire soundscape are still second to none. They did an amazing job on that.
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
So what Nintendo actually is doing is waiting for each game's respective 20th anniversary to release it's corresponding remaster. This will be mixed in with spinoffs and mainline entries and we are going to be eating yearly Metroid for the rest of the decade.

Metroid Prime Remastered: 2022
Metroid Prime 4: 2023
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes Remastered: 2024
Metroid 6: 2025
Metroid Tomagotchi by Bandai Namco: 2026
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption Remastered: 2027
Metroid Prime 5: 2028
Metroid 7: 2029
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A Metroid Tamagotchi would be fire.

Remember to feed... THE BABY...
 
ElisaurusWrecks said:
Speak for yourself, I have been a very good boy the last 21 years and I demand compensation


He's bringing on Tetsuya Nomura as co-writer for Metroid 6: Federation Hearts - 358/2 Cycles
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The only suitable successor! Either him or neil druckmann will be making a surprise appearance...

Crusters said:
I remember an interview where retro presented their take on bounty hunting with samus to NOJ, and there ended up being mass confusion, apparently, bounty hunter as a concept was just a cooler sounding word for super hero to Nintendo of Japan, so they had extreme distaste for samus getting paid to be a hero as a job, instead of just seeking out and righting injustice wherever she goes, cause she's a hero and that's what heroes do, as Sakamoto had to come in to explain.

Something I always found a little strange, as I remember this being just a little while after cowboy bebop exploded.

That being said I don't know how I'd feel about having to catch space pirates and turn them in, so I can keep a steady supply of beef and peppers for samus to subsist on.
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Honestly i dont really care for the idea either. I dont want metroid to be a simple mission based series. That doesnt mean i dont want mp4 to break free from series conventions tho
 
Olinad said:
A Metroid Tamagotchi would be fire.

Remember to feed... THE BABY...
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Aurc said:
Samus is now the last Metroid, so they can keep the name and have it make sense, even if the floating alien parasites themselves never actually show up again.

That's more an issue with the series as a whole, honestly. Not really fair to place lore breaks, canon violations, and inconsistencies on Sakamoto alone, when Prime 1 shipped two different versions, each with their own different lore scans, and there's still, to this day, no concrete answer as to the origins of the Metroid inside Tallon IV's Leviathan. If it came from Phaaze, that doesn't really line up with the Thoha creating them on SR388.
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Prime 1's metroid getting into to crater is the only inconsistency that raises an eyebrow in prime, otherwise the prime games (or at least the trilogy didn't play fed force and forgot about hunters plot) tell a good story without constant plot/lore scrambles which has been the case for the non-prime games since fusion
 
ILikeFeet said:
Metroid could stand to start trying different things after Dread and MP4 though. I always thought there was a bit of a cap on the potential of the series
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If it weren't for the fact 3d metroid likes are still more rare than an albino unicorn and the Metroid prime games themselves make up 90% of the genre across all platforms in existence I would have been here like, a decade ago.
 
Crusters said:
If it weren't for the fact 3d metroid likes are still more rare than an albino unicorn and the Metroid prime games themselves make up 90% of the genre across all platforms in existence I would have been here like, a decade ago.
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The lack of competition isn’t something that I think affects Nintendo/Retro’s idea of switching the formula if they think is for the better for the franchise. Of course they wouldn’t chase trends and make Prime a FPS but there is the chance that future Prime games have nothing to do with what we have right now.
 
ILikeFeet said:
Metroid could stand to start trying different things after Dread and MP4 though. I always thought there was a bit of a cap on the potential of the series
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Even if I wasn't blown away by the execution, I did appreciate Metroid Prime 2 and 3 attempting to add to the Metroid formula a bit with the dark world mechanic and the ability to travel to multiple different planets, respectively. Even with Dread, while it felt mostly like a straightforward evolution, I thought the EMMI encounters were a nice addition that introduced some variation into the gameplay. But yeah, I'd definitely be interested to see them go further with experimenting with new ideas in future games.
 
Any hot takes on the Fallout show? I've always sort of thought Fallout is what Metroid would be if Nintendo didn't make it lol.
 
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Aurc said:
Samus is now the last Metroid, so they can keep the name and have it make sense, even if the floating alien parasites themselves never actually show up again.

That's more an issue with the series as a whole, honestly. Not really fair to place lore breaks, canon violations, and inconsistencies on Sakamoto alone, when Prime 1 shipped two different versions, each with their own different lore scans, and there's still, to this day, no concrete answer as to the origins of the Metroid inside Tallon IV's Leviathan. If it came from Phaaze, that doesn't really line up with the Thoha creating them on SR388.
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On that note? That's another reason I'm eager to see what happens with Metroid (Re-)Prime. Not every day you get a possible third whack at trying to make your game's lore make sense within the series!

If it were me? All you have to do is say that "The Worm" was indeed just some unforeseen parasitic lifeform that originated from Phaaze, and the Tallon IV Chozo just called it "Metroid", because it certainly fits the title of being an "Ultimate Warrior", for all the power it had.

After the few Tallon IV survivors evacuated the planet and it became a black site, many years later, the idea of making an "ultimate lifeform" of their own was thought up as a "Good" idea by the Thoha to handle the X. Hence, how the Thoha got the idea to create Metroids, based off of THE Metroid sealed on Tallon IV. Which would be retrofitted to be called "Prime", to indicate that everything ELSE was derived from it.

...or something like that!
 
TreIII said:
On that note? That's another reason I'm eager to see what happens with Metroid (Re-)Prime. Not every day you get a possible third whack at trying to make your game's lore make sense within the series!

If it were me? All you have to do is say that "The Worm" was indeed just some unforeseen parasitic lifeform that originated from Phaaze, and the Tallon IV Chozo just called it "Metroid", because it certainly fits the title of being an "Ultimate Warrior", for all the power it had.

After the few Tallon IV survivors evacuated the planet and it became a black site, many years later, the idea of making an "ultimate lifeform" of their own was thought up as a "Good" idea by the Thoha to handle the X. Hence, how the Thoha got the idea to create Metroids, based off of THE Metroid sealed on Tallon IV. Which would be retrofitted to be called "Prime", to indicate that everything ELSE was derived from it.

...or something like that!
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I think the "worm" is covered by the leviathan cores in prime 3. It can't not be a metroid, it summons them mid battle
 
I feel like the main plothole to fill would just be some reason a Metroid got to Phaaze in the first place.

Maybe it was being transported on a Chozo or Pirate ship that was attacked and it fell there or something? Not super plausible but from there everything else has no reason it couldn't have happened.
 
ElisaurusWrecks said:
I feel like the main plothole to fill would just be some reason a Metroid got to Phaaze in the first place.

Maybe it was being transported on a Chozo or Pirate ship that was attacked and it fell there or something? Not super plausible but from there everything else has no reason it couldn't have happened.
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My theory/explanation is that it was a metroid brought by space pirates mutated to a phazon metroid which phased through the chozo barrier into the core getting taken over by the leviathan core. Doesn't explain how the weapons got attached to it though, would be unreasonable to think it carried them from the pirate base along with it when it went through.
 
ElisaurusWrecks said:
I feel like the main plothole to fill would just be some reason a Metroid got to Phaaze in the first place.

Maybe it was being transported on a Chozo or Pirate ship that was attacked and it fell there or something? Not super plausible but from there everything else has no reason it couldn't have happened.
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I almost feel like if MP4 really does involve the original rumored ideas of some funky new planet that would allow Samus (and others?) to travel through time, that could be the ultimate handwave you need.

For example: Imagine if the reason Sylux nabbed the newly hatched Metroid from Federation Force's stinger was because he wanted to make sure a Metroid could be prepped and then sent back in time? Which in turn could be sent off to Phaze, and then become the Metroid Prime that would make life hell for the galaxy many years later?

It's silly, but that's the kind of thing I could see happening on Tanabe's watch. This dude was involved with the scripts for both LTTP and OoT, and well, we at least already got the "Light/Dark World" game out of the way!
 
TreIII said:
I almost feel like if MP4 really does involve the original rumored ideas of some funky new planet that would allow Samus (and others?) to travel through time, that could be the ultimate handwave you need.

For example: Imagine if the reason Sylux nabbed the newly hatched Metroid from Federation Force's stinger was because he wanted to make sure a Metroid could be prepped and then sent back in time? Which in turn could be sent off to Phaze, and then become the Metroid Prime that would make life hell for the galaxy many years later?

It's silly, but that's the kind of thing I could see happening on Tanabe's watch. This dude was involved with the scripts for both LTTP and OoT, and well, we at least already got the "Light/Dark World" game out of the way!
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I generally hate time travel goofiness in most anything but Metroid is often just as campy as Zelda which has it so whatever I guess, good enough!

And like you said the light/dark multiverse thing is not necessarily any less goofy than time travel.
 
byDoS said:
Now that he's done with the Metroid arc/saga, do you guys think Sakamoto will change the name of the future games?

Samus' Adventure: Departure
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I do wonder if he'll continue with numbered entries. I wonder if they might just call the next game "Metroid" because of, ya know, the ending to Dread. Kinda similar to God of War, it's a good opportunity to take the series in a new direction.

Mr Doggo said:
The only suitable successor! Either him or neil druckmann will be making a surprise appearance...


Honestly i dont really care for the idea either. I dont want metroid to be a simple mission based series. That doesnt mean i dont want mp4 to break free from series conventions tho
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Hasn't it been like two decades since Spector has done anything great (shame about SS3)? Druckmann needs to stay as far as Metroid as humanly possible, even though I really appreciate his games. How bout we get Kojima in on some Metroid action! JK. Also, I believe in the Kiwi Talkz interviews it was clarified that the bounty hunting thing would have just been optional side missions you could take on as you went through the main story, not that the whole game would be mission based.

ILikeFeet said:
Sakamoto doesn't have a hand in Prime's story arc. that's all tanabe
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The main narrative yes. But Retro seems to have quite a bit of leeway on the scan entries/lore and world building aspect. To me, that is by far the most interesting aspect of the Prime series narratives.
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
(shame about SS3)
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I know it's off topic but I just want to say I'm still fucking mad about this and I really really hope the original project he mentioned gets off the ground. Feels like everytime there's some good developments around a niche series I love after decades, they immediately are buried in garbage

Anyway Metroid
 
Aurc said:
Hey, this isn't bad! I went through a huge synthwave phase, some years back. Gunship, The Midnight, Perturbator, Waveshaper, Mega Drive, and plenty more, were among my most listened to artists. Good times.
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Great taste! I still keep most if not all of those on my enormous 30k+ song library on Spotify. Once in a blue moon the sheer volume of random nonsense will shuffle just right to give me a song or two lol
 
ElisaurusWrecks said:
Bump for peace in space




I need it

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There's a lot of vivid imagery that's been going through my imagination recently, in regards to a potential Metroid anime. I know it's unfortunately not something likely to manifest, but if it ever did, I'm really set on a structure that includes a decent number of flashbacks to Samus's childhood, her time spent on Zebes, and among the Chozo. A partial adaptation of the manga, in a sense, but with new story, too.

The present day storyline, I'd hope, would be something more akin to certain Samurai Jack episodes: exciting action, solitude, and minimal dialogue.
 
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