StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

[Ojoloco]

Remember the rumors only taked about Xbox/PC, not Switch. I know it would make 100% sense to also port Persona mainline titles to Switch, but Atlus is Atlus.

There is also the chance they prioritize persona ports on xbox first (due to microsoft money) and then by 2023 on switch.

I remember that Nate in the past mentioned that persona 5 on Switch it was also a matter of time.

That's why I ask Nate, because now ports of persona 5 have been rumored again.

I hope he can answer me.

 

[HockeyBird]

Why are you all scaring me with Direct mini talk?

We are at the point of discussion where people are actively looking for any bit of news to get themselves depressed so they are focusing on someone predicting that it would be a mini and interpreting that as a confirmation.

 

[Blue Monty]

If Nintendo is going to become even more 1st party reliant then they’ll probably need to be at least triple the size they currently are now.

I meant 1st+common partners (I dont expect them to make everything in-house) but is what they are already doing at the moment, if all the studios expand like Monolith Soft has it could be huge for Nintendo. I think almost all common partners Nintendo can rely on them but 3rd party support of non-Nintendo games is something Nintendo has to avoid relying on to cover some spots on their lineup

 

[9-Volt]

I remember that Nate in the past mentioned that persona 5 on Switch it was also a matter of time.

Wasn't that for Persona 4 Golden? I vaguely remember him saying P4G Switch release scheduled for this year after P4 Arena ultimax.

 

[Ojoloco]

Wasn't that for Persona 4 Golden? I vaguely remember him saying P4G Switch release scheduled for this year after P4 Arena ultimax.

No, for Persona 5, on Resetera, a few time ago

 

[HockeyBird]

I could see Persona 5 coming to Xbox and not Switch simply because Phil Spencer has been given the authority to write giant checks to other game companies, even if it the costs far outweigh the benefits.

 

[LoneRanger]

Wasn't that for Persona 4 Golden? I vaguely remember him saying P4G Switch release scheduled for this year after P4 Arena ultimax.

I remember that too. Nate was extreme sure that Persona 4 Golden is coming at least to PS4/Switch this year.

 

[carlosfilho]

Wasn't that for Persona 4 Golden? I vaguely remember him saying P4G Switch release scheduled for this year after P4 Arena ultimax.

I don't know about Persona 5, but he did mention Persona 4 Golden on Switch (and Playstation) some months ago

 

[BobNintendofan]

We've likely already seen most games coming out in this financial year, although I'd expect a couple more ports (like Tomodachi life or WWHD) and potentially Donkey Kong to round out the holidays along with Pokemon. There's just not much more space for games right now.

 

[ILikeFeet]

Xbox is harder to believe than Switch, frankly, but P3/P4/P5 will definitely be ported elsewhere in the near future; and not just PS ports for the former two. One of those cases where to most people it seems unlikely until it happens and seems obvious in retrospect.

Personally i'd rather see them do a collection with P1 and the P2s.

Well, if P5R is announced for Xbox it'll absolutely also come on the Switch, and regardless of who announced it first, I guarantee that the Switch version will be the one that generate the most buzz and the most sales

all me to introduce myself

 

[Blue Monty]

I think Nintendo really should start looking into turning quite a bit of their franchises into long term gaas titles.

They already said that was one of their plans early on Switch lifespan, to extend the lifespan of their games with post-release support (they showed Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2 and other titles). The thing is that Nintendo view on GaaS is pretty different than the usual, they want to extend the lifespan of games so they keep selling more long-term but not that much to push MTX or battle passes (they still want to sell DLC/NSO expansion pass but that is quite different still from most GaaS titles)

 

[Tentacle-tropes]

I meant 1st+common partners (I dont expect them to make everything in-house) but is what they are already doing at the moment, if all the studios expand like Monolith Soft has it could be huge for Nintendo. I think almost all common partners Nintendo can rely on them but 3rd party support of non-Nintendo games is something Nintendo has to avoid relying on to cover some spots on their lineup

While they have been expanding (the correct course), I would say even with common partners they would still probably need to be about 2x bigger then they currently to help facilitate their various titles. Not just creating them but also supporting post-launch. At this point indies are probably their most reliable 3rd party who they should be nurturing into the next NLG or Camelot much like how mobile/PC have their crop of exclusive developers that develop solely for those systems.

 

[SammyJ9]

We've likely already seen most games coming out in this financial year, although I'd expect a couple more ports (like Tomodachi life or WWHD) and potentially Donkey Kong to round out the holidays along with Pokemon. There's just not much more space for games right now.

I doubt we've seen 'most' of the games coming for the entire rest of the fiscal year. Some, sure, but there's bound to be surprises in there. If you include heavily rumored games like MP1, FE, etc., then maybe we're most of the way there. but there's always multiple things that no one expects

 

[BobNintendofan]

I doubt we've seen 'most' of the games coming for the entire rest of the fiscal year. Some, sure, but there's bound to be surprises in there. If you include heavily rumored games like MP1, FE, etc., then maybe we're most of the way there. but there's always multiple things that no one expects

Usually there are a bunch of things people don't expect but Nintendo has already announced a lot of their games for the year. Starting from July (they're not gonna announce anything substantial and release it in the next 2 weeks) there's 9 months left in the financial year and already so many games announced for it. I do think we will see a few things, but mostly ports/remasters/remakes. In terms of new games, probably not much.

 

[Skittzo]

We've likely already seen most games coming out in this financial year, although I'd expect a couple more ports (like Tomodachi life or WWHD) and potentially Donkey Kong to round out the holidays along with Pokemon. There's just not much more space for games right now.

They have 4 games dated. There are 9 more months in the rest of the FY. They normally release 18-25 games per FY.

You do the math.

 

[Party Sklar]

Why? Like if the port only exists because Microsoft is paying for PC/Xbox ports that doesn’t mean is coming to Switch if nobody pays for it

You could be right, but unless Microsoft paid and signed an exclusivity deal with SEGA saying “don’t put this on the Switch”, it’ll probably come on the Switch. I know SEGA ain’t always acting very logically, but even they should see that putting P5R on the Switch could generate a lot of sales, more than enough to compensate Nintendo’s money

 

[Dark Cloud]

Getting a little tired of this narrative of we have so many titles for the rest of the year there’s not much more to show for a direct.

Xenoblade 3- July 29
Splatoon 3- September
Pokémon- November 18

Wow looks like the schedule is set for the next 9 months

 

[BobNintendofan]

They have 3 games dated. There are 9 more months in the rest of the FY. They normally release 18-25 games per FY.

You do the math.

Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayo, BotW, Pokemon, Fire Emblem Warriors, Advance Wars
Then you have Mario+Rabbids which is not made by them but uses their major IP, so I'm sure Nintendo considers it an important release.
That's 8 games for 9 months. I'm actually being generous here and assuming Nintendo is willing to really stack the schedule so we'll see Donkey Kong and some remakes/ports (Metroid prime 1 and maybe whatever Grezzo is working on).

 

[BobNintendofan]

Getting a little tired of this narrative of we have so many titles for the rest of the year there’s not much more to show for a direct.

Xenoblade 3- July 29
Splatoon 3- September
Pokémon- November 18

Wow looks like the schedule is set for the next 9 months

Obviously if it doesn't have a release date now it doesn't count as a game in this financial year.

 

[Ojoloco]

Getting a little tired of this narrative of we have so many titles for the rest of the year there’s not much more to show for a direct.

Xenoblade 3- July 29
Splatoon 3- September
Pokémon- November 18

Wow looks like the schedule is set for the next 9 months

I don't understand why there is doubt about a nintendo direct, when Nate has already told us that there is one this month, and we have rumored possible announcements like Metroid Prime Remake, and there are also games that should be given a date and more info like Bayonetta 3 .

 

[Party Sklar]

all me to introduce myself

SH2 is precisely the reason I doubt Atlus would skip Nintendo in favor of Microsoft for P5R.

I mean, if that’s the numbers on PlayStation, can’t imagine what they look like on Xbox

 

[AllEchse]

You could be right, but unless Microsoft paid and signed an exclusivity deal with SEGA saying “don’t put this on the Switch”, it’ll probably come on the Switch. I know SEGA ain’t always acting very logically, but even they should see that putting P5R on the Switch could generate a lot of sales, more than enough to compensate Nintendo’s money

Sega is weirs themselves, they only released Sakura Wars on PS4 an extremely japan centrix franchise, even thoufh it's tbe handheld country.

Maybe the game also kinda flopped and they never got to port it or Valkyria Chronicles didnt do aswell on Switch as they hoped, so they didnt bother here, but its weird.

Who knows of Switch will even get Soul Hackers 2.

Atleast there's 13 Sentinels and I love it.

 

[Tentacle-tropes]

They already said that was one of their plans early on Switch lifespan, to extend the lifespan of their games with post-release support (they showed Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2 and other titles). The thing is that Nintendo view on GaaS is pretty different than the usual, they want to extend the lifespan of games so they keep selling more long-term but not that much to push MTX or battle passes (they still want to sell DLC/NSO expansion pass but that is quite different still from most GaaS titles)

Sure but I think they could be doing better in helping various studios or teams create longer tails of content than they currently are. Games like Mario Party, Mario Sports, Animal Crossing, and Mario Maker to name a few could have been supported with more content or even changed how they have rolled out some content for these titles. While they aren’t focused on mtx or battle pass they could be doing more stuff like say the expansion for MK with MP in selling older updated boards, mini-games, & older modes with free costumes as an example.

 

[NabiscoFelt]

SH2 is precisely the reason I doubt Atlus would skip Nintendo in favor of Microsoft for P5R.

I mean, if that’s the numbers on PlayStation, can’t imagine what they look like on Xbox

Pfft you think Atlus would be convinced by something as silly as hard evidence that a Switch port would be an extremely financially viable decision?

 

[Skittzo]

Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayo, BotW, Pokemon, Fire Emblem Warriors, Advance Wars
Then you have Mario+Rabbids which is not made by them but uses their major IP, so I'm sure Nintendo considers it an important release.
That's 8 games for 9 months. I'm actually being generous here and assuming Nintendo is willing to really stack the schedule so we'll see Donkey Kong and some remakes/ports (Metroid prime 1 and maybe whatever Grezzo is working on).

You caught me pre edit, I forgot about FEWTH. But the point stands, none of the others are confirmed for this FY until they're given solid release dates. BotW 2 was delayed to spring which according to Nintendo typically means between April and June.

There is a ton for them to announce at a direct, including a ton of new game announcements. They always have plenty of those, every single year barring 2020.

 

[BobNintendofan]

You caught me pre edit, I forgot about FEWTH. But the point stands, none of the others are confirmed for this FY until they're given solid release dates. BotW 2 was delayed to spring which according to Nintendo typically means between April and June.

There is a ton for them to announce at a direct, including a ton of new game announcements. They always have plenty of those, every single year barring 2020.

It's true they could delay half these games I'm just not expecting them to.
A trend also doesn't always have to be followed. It's possible that Nintendo was willing to announce games earlier than they normally would have because they wanted to use the hype to sell the OLED.

 

[ZaWams]

Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayo, BotW, Pokemon, Fire Emblem Warriors, Advance Wars
Then you have Mario+Rabbids which is not made by them but uses their major IP, so I'm sure Nintendo considers it an important release.
That's 8 games for 9 months. I'm actually being generous here and assuming Nintendo is willing to really stack the schedule so we'll see Donkey Kong and some remakes/ports (Metroid prime 1 and maybe whatever Grezzo is working on).

Aren’t they also publishing Live A Live in the West?

 

[Blue Monty]

You could be right, but unless Microsoft paid and signed an exclusivity deal with SEGA saying “don’t put this on the Switch”, it’ll probably come on the Switch. I know SEGA ain’t always acting very logically, but even they should see that putting P5R on the Switch could generate a lot of sales, more than enough to compensate Nintendo’s money

My idea is more than It’s coming to Xbox/PC just because Xbox is paying for it and that Atlus will not bother to make a Switch port without Nintendo paying for it. Xbox doesnt need to sign a deal to avoid a Switch release because Atlus will just not make the port imo

Sega is weirs themselves, they only released Sakura Wars on PS4 an extremely japan centrix franchise, even thoufh it's tbe handheld country.

Maybe the game also kinda flopped and they never got to port it or Valkyria Chronicles didnt do aswell on Switch as they hoped, so they didnt bother here, but its weird.

Who knows of Switch will even get Soul Hackers 2.

Atleast there's 13 Sentinels and I love it.

Atlus is independent from SEGA decision wise, both make awful decisions marketing and platform wise but is more a case of both being weird than one having influence on the other

 

[Magic-Man]

We're gonna get more Switch announcements from an Xbox event than from Summer Game Fest lol

 

[Hidden04]

At least Geoff organized most of the events into June, but he could be responsible for all these leaks, from Sonic to Silksong.

 

[Sol]

I'm so glad E3 was cancelled. A big week jam packed full of exciting new game announcements and presentations was getting really old.

 

[ILikeFeet]

SH2 is precisely the reason I doubt Atlus would skip Nintendo in favor of Microsoft for P5R.

I mean, if that’s the numbers on PlayStation, can’t imagine what they look like on Xbox

if they didn't realize this part way into development (after the switch proven itself to be a runaway train), then I doubt its actual sales performance is gonna change.

 

[NateDrake]

@NateDrake

sorry to bother you but do you know if the rumors that Persona 5 Royal will be announced for Switch/Xbox/PC are true?

Nothing to share on that. Would certainly welcome it. There is a lot of talk/chatter in the background about Persona going to non-Sony platforms but when is tough to find an answer to.

Hey Nate, what day will you start referring to the direct as “soon” instead of “soon-ish”? That should keep us busy for awhile so we don’t have to actually play games

When the day gets more near.

 

[MondoMega]

all me to introduce myself

Hey, if you don't want to take my word for it, take the word of the Era poster who was right about P4AU being ported to PS4/Switch/PC (and other things like the recent Taiko releases). They aren't sure about P5 but the other two are definitely headed everywhere. Safe to bet on P5R too though, i'd say.

 

[Ojoloco]

Nothing to share on that. Would certainly welcome it. There is a lot of talk/chatter in the background about Persona going to non-Sony platforms but when is tough to find an answer to.


When the day gets more near.

Thank you nate!

 

[Blue Monty]

if they didn't realize this part way into development (after the switch proven itself to be a runaway train), then I doubt its actual sales performance is gonna change.

Spending one year making next-gen versions=
Spending that year also making a Switch port or outsourcing it =
(This is BNS case not Atlus but I’d imagine is the same case Lol)

 

[Skittzo]

When the day gets more near.

Aha! So it's happening on a day, eh?

 

[NateDrake]

Hey, if you don't want to take my word for it, take the word of the Era poster who was right about P4AU being ported to PS4/Switch/PC (and other things like the recent Taiko releases). They aren't sure about P5 but the other two are definitely headed everywhere. Safe to bet on P5R too though, i'd say.

This is largely accurate.

Timing is the only uncertainty.

 

[Kevin]

Nothing to share on that. Would certainly welcome it. There is a lot of talk/chatter in the background about Persona going to non-Sony platforms but when is tough to find an answer to.


When the day gets more near.

I really hope your Banjo-Kazooie rumor is real. Either a remake of the first two games or a proper third game. I've been waiting since I was basically a kid and now I'm a middle aged man. So hope you're right on this one.

 

[Dark Cloud]

My god if we get Persona on Switch…it’ll be one of the best with the other Nintendo first party games I think we’ll get.

 

[Smash Kirby]

SH2 is precisely the reason I doubt Atlus would skip Nintendo in favor of Microsoft for P5R.

I mean, if that’s the numbers on PlayStation, can’t imagine what they look like on Xbox

I wonder if MS is paying for Game Pass for Soul Hackers? Strange the game is also on the MS Store.

 

[Ojoloco]

I wonder if MS is paying for Game Pass for Soul Hackers? Strange the game is also on the MS Store.

Probably Soul Hackers on Gamepass would be a announcement on the No-E3 event

 

[Blue Monty]

Probably Soul Hackers on Gamepass would be a announcement on the No-E3 event

Sony has a marketing deal for the game in Japan, would surprise me if there is GP day 1.

 

[Magic-Man]

Imagine waking up tomorrow morning, checking the e-shop, and seeing Goldeneye, Silksong, and three mainline Persona games on the Featured section. I'd lose my mind.

 

[Ojoloco]

Sony has a marketing deal for the game in Japan, would surprise me if there is GP day 1.

having a marketing agreement in a particular territory does not invalidate that MS could have another agreement to put it on their service.

 

[NateDrake]

I really hope your Banjo-Kazooie rumor is real. Either a remake of the first two games or a proper third game. I've been waiting since I was basically a kid and now I'm a middle aged man. So hope you're right on this one.

The info of the project being real is solid. Timing of reveal? We'll see. Let's hope this weekend but could be a later time/event.

 

[Dragoncaine]

I really hope your Banjo-Kazooie rumor is real. Either a remake of the first two games or a proper third game. I've been waiting since I was basically a kid and now I'm a middle aged man. So hope you're right on this one.

From what MVG and Nate know, it sounds like a Banjo-Kazooie project is in active development for sure. It's just a matter of when Xbox decides to show it off. I'm also really, really hoping it's tomorrow. The first game is one of my all-time favorites.

EDIT: The man himself beat me to the punch lol

 

[Blue Monty]

having a marketing agreement in a particular territory does not invalidate that MS could have another agreement to put it on their service.

Sony marketing deals for what we know thanks to the Capcom leak usually imply one year of the game not being on sub services of Sony competition, that is why I think it would be weird.
Also they showed the game on SFG, if Xbox had a deal why they wouldnt wait to show it on Xbox event where it probably have more time? (it had sub 50 sec in SFG)

 

[Dark Cloud]

The info of the project being real is solid. Timing of reveal? We'll see. Let's hope this weekend but could be a later time/event.

Did you see Tom Henderson said Avowed won’t be there? I wanted to see it after you talked about it

 

[Kevin]

The info of the project being real is solid. Timing of reveal? We'll see. Let's hope this weekend but could be a later time/event.

A Summer Christmas miracle! As always Nate, I appreciate your work. Thanks!