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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%
  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%
  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%
  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%

  • Total voters
    258
  • Poll closed .
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I checked it out :). Was fun to see him play. And I can imagine it was also a bit stresfull maybe that people were watching but I think he did great. Happy he managed to defeat the guardian, haha.
Thanks so much! Was great to have you.
 
I saw a post of Nate’s about it but don’t know if I interpreted it right.

About it being a Mini possibly, did he mean from what he knows that he wouldn’t call it that or what???
 
If they want to remake a Mother game, it should be Mother 3 with all necessary dialogue changes. I’m open to an RPG with a modern setting.
I think the only two unquestionably necessary changes is the sprite for the Reggie character, and the scene where Lucas learns how to use PK magic. For the most part everything else would be fine as is
 
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I really don't understand why Grezzo would be working on a new IP or a sequel to Ever Oasis when they could make a 2D Zelda game that would sell 5x more, it makes no sense to me.
 
I really don't understand why Grezzo would be working on a new IP or a sequel to Ever Oasis when they could make a 2D Zelda game that would sell 5x more, it makes no sense to me.
Because they're an independent studio, not a subsidiary being told what to do, and Nintendo don't just greenlight the games that are guaranteed hits.
 
The implication there is that it seems like it's not a mini to him
Then I wonder what game(s) he knows will be there to dictate it’s a general direct. He doesn’t seem to know DK is coming. Fire Emblem he’s said is coming, but has said it could be saved for September. Does he know for sure we’re getting BotW 2 info? Does he know a brand new mainline Mario game is getting announced?
 
Then I wonder what game he knows will be there to dictate it’s a general direct. He doesn’t seem to know DK is coming. Fire Emblem he’s said is coming, but has said it could be saved for September. Does he know for sure we’re getting BotW 2 info? Does he know a brand new mainline Mario game is getting announced?
Could simply be that the number of third parties and indies waiting on a Direct reveal is high and suggests a lengthy broadcast is coming, too. I mean yeah, I get the logic with the first party titles, though.
 
While sequels and remasters are good, from here on out, Directs are going to be a bit less exciting because most of the announcements are going to be for been-there-done-that sequels and remasters. The big fresh graphically impressive games using new tech and engines are currently in production for the next console and we won't see those until mid 2023 at least.
 
Because they're an independent studio, not a subsidiary being told what to do, and Nintendo don't just greenlight the games that are guaranteed hits.
Ever Oasis is co-owned by Nintendo so they need Nintendo to greenlight a sequel (not like I think they wouldnt due to Zelda remakes making more money). If it’s another new IP that could change tho if there is no Nintendo involvement
 
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That is all one in the same… to me. I wish Nintendo would release Pikmin 4 and have for last the last three years. I’m not losing any sleep over it though. I’m not attacking Emily or Nate over it. It doesn’t mess with my day. To me any of those thing means taking the “speculation” too seriously.

Right, if you're simply saying people shouldn't be attacking insiders, then we're on the same page.

I thought you were implying that nobody should take what they say into consideration when discussing potential upcoming reveals and events. It seems like I was wrong, though.
 
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Because they're an independent studio, not a subsidiary being told what to do, and Nintendo don't just greenlight the games that are guaranteed hits.
But why would Nintendo greenlight the sequel to a game that flopped hard over a new game in one of the their most beloved franchise ? Especially when their last game was a remake to the same franchise.

I understand that they're an independent studio but they have worked exclusively with Nintendo since the beginning. Their first game in 2010 was under Nintendo and their next game will probably be with them too.
 
But why would Nintendo greenlight the sequel to a game that flopped hard over a new game in one of the their most beloved franchise ? Especially when their last game was a remake to the same franchise.

I understand that they're an independent studio but they have worked exclusively with Nintendo since the beginning. Their first game was under Nintendo and their next game will probably be with them too.
They have worked for other studios like FurYu before, they don’t only work for Nintendo even if it’s their more common partner. https://www.grezzo.co.jp/en/game

Also if Nintendo thinks Ever Oasis has potential on the Switch they might still invest on it or other Grezzo IPs. (Ever Oasis released too late on the 3DS lifespan all non-Pokemon games flopped by that point)
 
But why would Nintendo greenlight the sequel to a game that flopped hard over a new game in one of the their most beloved franchise ? Especially when their last game was a remake to the same franchise.

I understand that they're an independent studio but they have worked exclusively with Nintendo since the beginning. Their first game in 2010 was under Nintendo and their next game will probably be with them too.
Because like I said, Nintendo don't always push ahead with projects that are guaranteed hits. Keeping the partnership with Grezzo going also depends on what Grezzo themselves want to do. Why do Ever Oasis after Ocarina and MM 3D sold 10 million copies between them?
 
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I don’t see Nintendo green lighting a sequel to a failure like Ever Oasis. 2D Zelda is due for a brand new game. Mercury Steam did Samus Returns to Metroid Dread. I could see Grezzo getting experience for 2D Zelda to try a new one.
 
They worked with FuRYu to provide assistance in game design exclusively yes but it's quite different than their relationship with Nintendo.
I feel like Grezzo has enough talent and has worked for Nintendo enough for Nintendo to greenlight a new IP or a bigger Ever Oasis game to create a series. This would also tie Grezzo with Nintendo for the future so it’s also a good move by Nintendo part and is not like they need another remake this late on Switch lifespan
 
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Hey Nate, what day will you start referring to the direct as “soon” instead of “soon-ish”? That should keep us busy for awhile so we don’t have to actually play games
 
Hey Nate, what day will you start referring to the direct as “soon” instead of “soon-ish”? That should keep us busy for awhile so we don’t have to actually play games
My guess would be next weekend, since the only two remaining possibilities seem to be 22/23 or 29/30
 
A lot of questioning about why Nintendo would ever approve of a sequel to Ever Oasis coming from folks that regularly demands Nintendo make more F-Zero and Metroid games.
 
Given that we are very late into the switch's life, we should expect to see mostly ports/remasters/iterative sequels that heavily reuse engines. And this is exactly what we have been seeing so far this year, with lower budget titles like switch sports, mario strikers and iterative sequels like Splatoon 3 and Xenoblade 3 that reuse engines on the same console.

So games I think we have a decent chance of seeing
WWHD
Metroid Prime 1 remake
Tomodachi life
Updates for stuff like Mario Party/Switch Sports/Mario Strikers/Mario Kart
Yoshi's Wooly World
2D Zelda remake
 
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While sequels and remasters are good, from here on out, Directs are going to be a bit less exciting because most of the announcements are going to be for been-there-done-that sequels and remasters. The big fresh graphically impressive games using new tech and engines are currently in production for the next console and we won't see those until mid 2023 at least.

Nintendo didn’t have a huge leap in graphics between Wii U and Switch. What makes you think they can’t create something new and exciting for the current system?

My gut says both Mario and Zelda aren’t going to feel like ‘been-there-done-that’ sequels after we get our hands on them.
 
I just bought a couple of indie games last night, so expect a Direct any time now with some awesome, irresistible shadow drops because that’s what happens to me every time. You’re welcome.
 
While sequels and remasters are good, from here on out, Directs are going to be a bit less exciting because most of the announcements are going to be for been-there-done-that sequels and remasters. The big fresh graphically impressive games using new tech and engines are currently in production for the next console and we won't see those until mid 2023 at least.
Nintendo wants to release games now that will keep selling in 4-5 years even with a new console, so the titles released will be more than just budget releases (like cheap remasters) and derivative sequels imo. I think Nintendo wants the release of new hardware to affect the software output as little as possible
 
Nintendo didn’t have a huge leap in graphics between Wii U and Switch. What makes you think they can’t create something new and exciting for the current system?

My gut says both Mario and Zelda aren’t going to feel like ‘been-there-done-that’ sequels after we get our hands on them.
It's not that they cant make a good sequel on the same console, it's that they need to focus development resources on making games for the first 2-3 years of the next console. Games have to be front loaded or people wont buy into the console. Consumers don't buy consoles for the hope games might be there eventually, but to play games that exist right now. Breath of the Wild 2 is probably going to be an exception to this rule, and likely mostly because it was supposed to come out earlier. I'm sure they didn't expect an iterative sequel on the same console to take so much time to develop, but covid messed a lot of things up and it sounds like they had a lot of ideas beyond what they originally planned. But there's little reason to think there will be any other big games until the next console launches.
 
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sorry to bother you but do you know if the rumors that Persona 5 Royal will be announced for Switch/Xbox/PC are true?
Xbox is harder to believe than Switch, frankly, but P3/P4/P5 will definitely be ported elsewhere in the near future; and not just PS ports for the former two. One of those cases where to most people it seems unlikely until it happens and seems obvious in retrospect.

Personally i'd rather see them do a collection with P1 and the P2s.
 
@NateDrake

sorry to bother you but do you know if the rumors that Persona 5 Royal will be announced for Switch/Xbox/PC are true?
Say what

If XBox manages to show Persona 5 R and Silksong then I don't think there's anything a Direct could do to top that. But I'm really doubtful on Persona, I don't trust Atlus to port that for another 7 years or so
 
Nintendo wants to release games now that will keep selling in 4-5 years even with a new console, so the titles released will be more than just budget release and derivative sequels imo. I think Nintendo wants the release of new hardware to affect the software output as little as possible
This. I think it's counterproductive to view Switch as a platform which is coming to a discrete end; there's going to be a cross-gen period and Nintendo are preparing for that. They'll want the software to continue to sell.

Plus, I'm not sure I'd look at Splatoon 3 and Xenoblade 3 and assume they're either less ambitious or less costly than previous games. Splatoon 2 was an iterative sequel made on a quick turn around. Xenoblade 2 also had a relatively short production cycle versus X and 3; we also have NoA describing XBC 3 as open world, so it's a large scale game.

Finally, we've had Nintendo talking to their investors about increasing costs per software title partially because Switch is so successful. I think we'll keep seeing the mix we see every year on Switch, where the lower cost, middle tier stuff and re-releases come along side games that were bigger budget and had longer development cycles.
 
OLED/Switch are still selling amazing better than PS4/XboxOne during their peak years (not together ofc), a new Nintendo console would sell even better as we saw OLED boosting Switch sales. They don’t need an specific exclusive console seller at release date, these games will come to the platform slowly with the months after release, at the moment Switch OG lineup (and new release) is already enough to carry sales
 
Say what

If XBox manages to show Persona 5 R and Silksong then I don't think there's anything a Direct could do to top that. But I'm really doubtful on Persona, I don't trust Atlus to port that for another 7 years or so

A port of an enhanced version of a 2017 game and a game that was announced for the Switch 3 years ago is a really low bar you have
 
Say what

If XBox manages to show Persona 5 R and Silksong then I don't think there's anything a Direct could do to top that. But I'm really doubtful on Persona, I don't trust Atlus to port that for another 7 years or so
Well, if P5R is announced for Xbox it'll absolutely also come on the Switch, and regardless of who announced it first, I guarantee that the Switch version will be the one that generate the most buzz and the most sales
 
Say what

If XBox manages to show Persona 5 R and Silksong then I don't think there's anything a Direct could do to top that. But I'm really doubtful on Persona, I don't trust Atlus to port that for another 7 years or so
I totally expect Xbox to focus more on ports/remakes while Direct to show off never games like Megaman or Mana. Small Ip, new game >>> Bigger IP re-release for me.

So I hope Vanillaware shows off a new game at the Direct instead of ports of Dragon's Crown or Odin Sphere.
 
They don’t need an specific exclusive console seller at release date
That depends on what audience they're targeting. If they're targeting the hardcore audience with their next device then I agree with you it doesn't need any exclusive games at all. The hardcore audience will buy whatever Nintendo shovels out. The OLED barely changed anything and people still bought it. However if they're targeting a broader audience than the OLED does, including more casual consumers, then they will want system sellers. Because grandma don't care about a nicer screen.
 
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Well, if P5R is announced for Xbox it'll absolutely also come on the Switch, and regardless of who announced it first, I guarantee that the Switch version will be the one that generate the most buzz and the most sales
Why? Like if the port only exists because Microsoft is paying for PC/Xbox ports that doesn’t mean is coming to Switch if nobody pays for it
 
sorry to bother you but do you know if the rumors that Persona 5 Royal will be announced for Switch/Xbox/PC are true?
Remember the rumors only taked about Xbox/PC, not Switch. I know it would make 100% sense to also port Persona mainline titles to Switch, but Atlus is Atlus.

There is also the chance they prioritize persona ports on xbox first (due to microsoft money) and then by 2023 on switch.
 
A port of an enhanced version of a 2017 game and a game that was announced for the Switch 3 years ago is a really low bar you have
...fair, but I can't really think of anything that would excite me, personally, more

Maybe a BoTW2 blowout? But I'm not really expecting that here.
 
Why are you all scaring me with Direct mini talk?
It's not gonna be a mini, I can say that confidently. Because a mini would be too small to show already existing games. They need to show Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayo and updates to several existing games. That would be one big ass mini.
 
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Honestly if Nintendo has big plans for Mother that would be quite big and good, I think Nintendo should start focusing on making even more 1st party games with the current situation of the industry. They already don't rely on 3rd parties but having even more games should be important for them in the future with JP publisher support being never a thing Nintendo has for granted since the SFC days
If Nintendo is going to become even more 1st party reliant then they’ll probably need to be at least triple the size they currently are now.
Nintendo wants to release games now that will keep selling in 4-5 years even with a new console, so the titles released will be more than just budget releases (like cheap remasters) and derivative sequels imo. I think Nintendo wants the release of new hardware to affect the software output as little as possible
I think Nintendo really should start looking into turning quite a bit of their franchises into long term gaas titles.
 
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