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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%
  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%
  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%
  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%

  • Total voters
    258
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Anyone here think it’s about time we see a glimpse of that DK game that had rumors rumbling heavily this time last year? Would be interesting. As a huge DK fan, I welcome more games from this franchise. We simply don’t have enough!
 
If I was a betting man, and (sometimes I am.) I would expect them to announce the Direct the week of June 6th thru the 8th. For a Direct the following week. If they adhere to the same week as Xbox as previous E3's.

Side thought: One would think if the rumors are true about some MS owned IP coming to Nintendo this holiday, they would want both the Xbox and Nintendo event close together to make those announcements.

Tina Turner probably is not available... I wonder who they could get to sing?
Can you put a source or link please?
 
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Anyone here think it’s about time we see a glimpse of that DK game that had rumors rumbling heavily this time last year? Would be interesting. As a huge DK fan, I welcome more games from this franchise. We simply don’t have enough!
I think it's worth digging into this a little bit, because DK Vine were the original source for this and they claim that Donkey Kong began development at EPD four or five years ago:
Development of the new Donkey Kong game purportedly began around 2017 or 2018, when Nintendo decided to bring Donkey Kong back internally for the first time since Nintendo EAD's Donkey Kong Jungle Beat... although Jungle Beat was more of a stopgap than a permanent status quo.
And Nintendo wouldn't be waiting for Retro to circle back around to Donkey Kong. Shortly thereafter, a new Donkey Kong game entered development by an outside studio for the Nintendo Switch. While little is known about this project, Nintendo decided to go in an entirely different direction around mid-to-late 2017. Led by Shigeru Miyamoto's desire for the Donkey Kong franchise to come home, and championed by younger EPD devs who grew up with the Super Donkey Kong series (as Donkey Kong Country is known in Japan), the decision was made for Nintendo EPD to take over the DK series. This timeframe also corresponds with when Nintendo's merchandising department split off the Donkey Kong brand from Super Mario, making it a separate entity for the first time in nearly 20 years.

As they were starting over from scratch, more stopgaps were devised. Tropical Freeze was announced for the Nintendo Switch in early 2018, as was the Donkey Kong Adventure DLC for Ubisoft's Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle. But by that point, Donkey Kong was firmly ensconced in his new home in Japan. And that's the abbreviated history of why there hasn't been a new Donkey Kong game since 2014. So Nintendo Life, what do the rumors say?
DK Vine's claim of the game being in the works since 2017 or 18 is interesting; how I'd personally interpret this is that while a decision was made for Donkey Kong to become an internal EPD property at that time, and that prototyping began, we're likely not looking at a game entering full production at EPD in 2017 or 2018. It's entirely possible the game - and perhaps other projects at EPD - has had a turbulent development, if it exists. Personally, given how EPD works - lots of prototype ideas, relatively few projects in full scale production at a time - my assumption (and it's only an assumption) is that there was probably a lengthy protoyping period by a small team. Given it would be the first internal DK title since 2004, I think Nintendo would want to get it right; and if Miyamoto has been involved (likely, given DK is one of his babies), then he may well have been fairly demanding or particular about the direction taken.

Nintendo Life's report on the matter was far less detailed, but it did specify the game was 2D and in the works at EPD in Tokyo (the location 3D Mario is made and home to EPD 8):
YouTuber LonelyGoomba has mentioned the rumour in passing on social media and other sources have also discussed it, but Nintendo Life can confirm that it has heard the same rumour from an independent (and very trusted) source, which would appear to lend this report some degree of legitimacy. However, our source claims that the game will be 2D (or 2.5D, if you prefer) and not 3D.
Now, if we're wondering whether there's potentially any credence to the idea of a 2D DK in development at EPD 8, we know that EPD 8 hired designers for a 2D game starting in August 2020. That's well after DK Vine's claimed development start for DK, but like I said, given how EPD works, it could well be that a decision was made to bring DK back to internal development well before a full production team was available, or even well before Nintendo decided to assemble a full team. Hiring calls also indicate EPD 8 are working on a 3D game (hiring began October 2019), and the credits for 3D World + Bowser's Fury also indicate EPD 8's involvement in that project was minimal, with the bulk of the staff coming from NST and 1-UP. That's a fair indication EPD 8 are busy working something else, or perhaps more than one something else given the two different hiring calls.

While Nintendo Life define EPD Tokyo as 'the Super Mario Odyssey team', that's a little misleading. 3D Mario absolutely is EPD Tokyo's calling card, but EPD groups can and do handle multiple franchises, meaning production groups can be home to two franchises handled by different teams within the production group. Most notably we see this with EPD 5, which is home to both Splatoon and Animal Crossing, which are the responsibility of different teams. Given we now know a major goal of Nintendo's is to expand internal development, it's not a wild reach to assume that increasing the number of franchises handled internally could be part of that goal. While a lot of investment is targeting Kyoto, the main development hub, EPD 8 in Tokyo were moved into new, larger offices a few years ago (shortly before the 3D game hiring call in 2019, I think); and the historic reason Nintendo established a production group in Tokyo was to take advantage of the local talent and outsourcing scene there, in order to take some pressure off resources in Kyoto. That logic likely still applies to EPD in Tokyo today.

TL;DR: it's not real until it's real, but a DK game made in Tokyo by EPD 8 has more than the DK Vine and Nintendo Life reports; it's feasible given DK's historic popularity and status; it's feasible given EPD 8's recent expansion and their recent hiring calls; it's feasible given recent activity around the DK brand in the form of the theme park and a potential movie.

But it ain't real till it's real. Personally, given the August 2020 hiring call, I think DK could be 2023 or 2024, if it's real.
 
It’s not just DK Vine and Nintendo Life. Nate Drake said he heard about the DK game too. It’s time to show it. I think that will be our holiday game next to Pokémon.

A DK game announced in June and released in October is a good 4 months. It would be similar to Metroid Dread. That’s enough time I’d say from announcement to release.

The Fire Emblem being announced in June and released in let’s say December could work too.
 
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Anyone here think it’s about time we see a glimpse of that DK game that had rumors rumbling heavily this time last year? Would be interesting. As a huge DK fan, I welcome more games from this franchise. We simply don’t have enough!
Lack of DK games keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in 8 years!

In all seriousness though, I wish there was more transparency with this IP. 8 years and counting is way too damn long to be radio silent toward an extremely popular franchise such as DK.
 
Time for a DK game in October (of next year)!!!

+ a Yoshi's Woolly World port for January.

Also, Wave Race and Pikmin 4 for next summer, please
 
Lack of DK games keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in 8 years!

In all seriousness though, I wish there was more transparency with this IP. 8 years and counting is way too damn long to be radio silent toward an extremely popular franchise such as DK.
The franchise should’ve had a permanent home just like Mario and Zelda
 
The franchise should’ve had a permanent home just like Mario and Zelda
Nintendo certainly should've planned it out better. They had 2 decades to figure it out after RARE left. It's a shame it took them this long to realize transferring the IP to developer to developer wasn't going to cut it. Assuming this rumor has any credibility. Who knows, they might not have figured it out yet. 😑

I guess Retro was going to be that studio, but it just wasn't the case unfortunately.
 
Lack of DK games keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in 8 years!

In all seriousness though, I wish there was more transparency with this IP. 8 years and counting is way too damn long to be radio silent toward an extremely popular franchise such as DK.

There is a DK roller coaster coming to Universal theme parks. What more do you want??????

Hopefully we get a new game soon
 
Nintendo certainly should've planned it out better. They had 2 decades to figure it out after RARE left. It's a shame it took them this long to realize transferring the IP to developer to developer wasn't going to cut it. Assuming this rumor has any credibility. Who knows, they might not have figured it out yet. 😑

I guess Retro was going to be that studio, but it just wasn't the case unfortunately.
I thought it was going to be Retro. I think Retro wanted to do something new though and they only have one team. Then they had issues and couldn’t put out a new IP or any kind of new game. That’s a whole issue there with them.

That just left DK in peril. Now it’s supposedly back at EPD. But will this be permanent or just another stop for DK before he goes to another developer?
 
Hopefully the ride has obstacles.

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Hopefully the ride has obstacles.

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I like when they take pictures on the ride and when you exit the ride they have the monitors to show the picture they captured of you. I hope they have a part where you’re grabbing a KONG letter or a banana and they snap the picture there. I’d probably buy it lol.
 
I'm not against another 2D DK, but we really need a 3D DK for the culture.

I'm a DK 64 hater, but it's been 25 years. I want to see what EAD can come up with for 3D DK now.
 
Whether it's Rare, Retro or Nintendo taking over the DK franchise, to me the heart and soul of the games is the music of David Wise. It would be a tragedy to not have him do the music of this new game, whatever form it takes.
 
Lack of DK games keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in 8 years!

In all seriousness though, I wish there was more transparency with this IP. 8 years and counting is way too damn long to be radio silent toward an extremely popular franchise such as DK.
Oh, absolutely - I feel the same exact way. I thought about how Donkey Kong as a character has such brand recognition that it’s almost bizarre to me that Nintendo doesn’t do more with this IP. I remember listening to the DK Vine Podcast episode about their findings of this new game rumor and I would love to see what EAD could do with DK - and plus, it would feel great to see DK developed in house at Nintendo again.
 
Oh, absolutely - I feel the same exact way. I thought about how Donkey Kong as a character has such brand recognition that it’s almost bizarre to me that Nintendo doesn’t do more with this IP. I remember listening to the DK Vine Podcast episode about their findings of this new game rumor and I would love to see what EAD could do with DK - and plus, it would feel great to see DK developed in house at Nintendo again.
But last DK games were also developed in-house 🧐
 
But last DK games were also developed in-house 🧐
Oh! Well what I mean by that technically is developed in house at Nintendo of Japan, like basically at the origin point - instead of leasing it out to UK or Texas haha (the Country games are my favorite, but I’d love to see what the Mario Odyssey team could do with DK!)
 
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Nintendo granting their wholly owned subsidiaries a seat on the council but denying them the rank of master will come back to bite them in the ass eventually.
 
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Lack of DK games keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in 8 years!

In all seriousness though, I wish there was more transparency with this IP. 8 years and counting is way too damn long to be radio silent toward an extremely popular franchise such as DK.

If there’s still no whisper of DK by the end of the year I almost feel like there’s going to have to start being some Operation Rainfall-style campaign to get a new game out.
 
I want to plan a small party with some close friends to watch the not-E3 Nintendo Direct. I hope we get some clues soon as to when it’s coming so I can start planning a date!

I’d hate to invite everyone super short-notice if Nintendo only gives us 36 hours notice.
 
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If I had to guess, the direct will take place between the 13th and the 16th. It's the week after Strikers and the week before Fire Emblem Warriors. It's after the Xbox event too. Makes the most sense.
 
Yep. A direct will happen, but since E3 is cancelled we don’t know what date it will happen on.
I wouldn’t expect there’s much wiggle room for them to delay due to traditional September directs. I personally expect a Direct in the June 7-14 range.
 
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Any how, yes...one is Goldeneye, @NateDrake . I had heard it was NOT a ROM dump onto NSO, but a physical release for this Fall. The Russia situation may complicate things. But, with the Starfield delay, I suspect they make a big deal about it. It is also the original games' anniversary.
I doubt that Goldeneye remaster happening anymore after the Amazon takeover of MGM. Amazon now owns the rights to all movies and games. Not sure if they want to go on with that since it wouldn't be published by Amazon.

IO's Bond project shouldn't be affected by this as it's a new title, not based on any past movies or games.
 
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If there’s still no whisper of DK by the end of the year I almost feel like there’s going to have to start being some Operation Rainfall-style campaign to get a new game out.
DK is probably a game next year where it will be closer to the DK theme park expansion and rumored spinoff movie. Maybe we see it in September the earliest, but I’m not feeling June. Always possible though.
 
To be fair, not even I have a ton of faith in that date since so many others make way more sense. But it's still funny.
I have two staff that got summons this same week and now I have to rework schedules I made months out. Better be something to this date.
 
I have two staff that got summons this same week and now I have to rework schedules I made months out. Better be something to this date.
So now there are three different people who all have jury duty the week of June 6th? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

(seriously though the week after that makes a lot more sense for so many reasons)
 
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I wonder if the next Mario game will have a Chris Pratt cameo?

Maybe he can be playable in a future Kart/Party/sports game?
 
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