StarTopic Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass |ST| Doubled Dash!! [WAVE 6 AVAILABLE NOW]

[Gartooth]

While many of 7’s tracks will make the jump to Tour and 8 by the end of 2023, I wouldn’t really say any of them were “remade” outside of the ones in base MK8 + Neo Bowser City (unless we see anti grav in future courses) so I think it’d be unfair to disqualify them on that basis. Nor do I think they should discount courses used in the BCP for the next MK game. What courses would be left in that case?

If they only need to fill the usual 16 tracks in the vanilla game then it's super easy. Even Deluxe only had 23 retro tracks before the BCP which also I think there's easy room here. Here's what currently isn't playable in 7, 8D, or Tour. (and I do think those 3 games will still get tracks which is why I set aside 4 for them in my example out of 16 total)

SNES -- Koopa Beach 1, Mario Circuit 4, Ghost Valley 3, Bowser's Castle 1, 2, 3

N64 -- Moo Moo Farm, Mario Raceway, Wario Stadium, Sherbet Land, Bowser's Castle, Banshee Boardwalk, DK's Jungle Parkway

GBA -- Peach Circuit, Shy Guy Beach, Riverside Park, Boo Lake, Luigi Circuit, Snow Land, Yoshi Desert, Lakeside Park, Broken Pier, Rainbow Road, Bowser's Castle 3, 4

GCN -- Luigi Circuit, Peach Beach, Mushroom Bridge, Mario Circuit, Waluigi Stadium, Mushroom City, DK Mountain, Wario Colosseum, Bowser's Castle, Rainbow Road

DS -- Figure 8 Circuit, Yoshi Falls, Desert Hills, Delfino Square, Mario Circuit, Peach Gardens, Bowser's Castle, Rainbow Road

Wii -- Luigi Circuit, Toad's Factory, Mario Circuit, Daisy Circuit, Dry Dry Ruins, Moonview Highway, Bowser's Castle, Rainbow Road

 

[Apopheniac]

re: the next Mario Kart game, I would imagine that they'd overhaul all the returning courses similar to what base MK8 did, probably with whatever gimmick that game introduces. Courses that have yet to be remade will probably have more priority and courses already remade with anti-grav etc will probably have less, but I doubt that the presence of store brand Kalimari Desert in Tour is going to invalidate its chances of getting a new game glowup.

 

[Gartooth]

re: the next Mario Kart game, I would imagine that they'd overhaul all the returning courses similar to what base MK8 did, probably with whatever gimmick that game introduces. Courses that have yet to be remade will probably have more priority and courses already remade with anti-grav etc will probably have less, but I doubt that the presence of store brand Kalimari Desert in Tour is going to invalidate its chances of getting a new game glowup.

Kalimari Desert has been in MK7 and Tour, and is favored for the BCP because this DLC favors tracks that have already been added to Tour. So if it has been in 3 consecutive games then it's probably time to give it a break for a while even though I think it's one of MK64's better tracks.

Nintendo's designers can still pick these tracks that have appeared a ton in the modern games, but it's a personal hope of mine that they don't fill the next game with mostly them, because there's some older courses I'm dying to see back.

 

[Apopheniac]

Kalimari Desert has been in MK7 and Tour, and is favored for the BCP because this DLC favors tracks that have already been added to Tour. So if it has been in 3 consecutive games then it's probably time to give it a break for a while even though I think it's one of MK64's better tracks.

Nintendo's designers can still pick these tracks that have appeared a ton in the modern games, but it's a personal hope of mine that they don't fill the next game with mostly them, because there's some older courses I'm dying to see back.

Mario Kart 7 is already 10 years old, I don't think it'll factor into any decisions for a new Mario Kart. Maybe Kalimari Desert makes it as DLC for this game, maybe it doesn't, but if they cross off every fan favorite that's shown up in Tour they're not gonna have many options left outside of bottom barrel picks.

 

[LoneRanger]

This is a possible dumb question, if I buy the NSO expansion on other country, can i download mk8dx booster pass on usa eshop?

 

[Leo]

This is a possible dumb question, if I buy the NSO expansion on other country, can i download mk8dx booster pass on usa eshop?

I think so, I'm in a family plan from another country and I downloaded the DLC just fine.

 

[ILikeFeet]

I know the courses aren't built for 200cc, but Tour courses are on some other shit

 

[Skipper93653]

I know the courses aren't built for 200cc, but Tour courses are on some other shit

If anything, I'd say so far, this DLC is built for 200cc. Every track is bliss on 200cc.

 

[MondoMega]

N64 Yoshi Valley is coming to Tour in two weeks! Doesn't mean anything for 8DX of course, since that game already has it, but I do have to update my list anyway. Will wait to see if anything else is datamined first though!

 

[stingylettuce]

N64 Yoshi Valley is coming to Tour in two weeks! Doesn't mean anything for 8DX of course, since that game already has it, but I do have to update my list anyway. Will wait to see if anything else is datamined first though!

Is this the first de-make of a course from 8?

 

[AllEchse]

Is this the first de-make of a course from 8?

Don't know about any others but both Tour and 8 already have the GCN Yoshi Circuit, so this is not the first time.
Which was also already remade in MKDS.
Is there any track that got more remakes?
I guess some SNES one like Rainbow Road.

 

[MrGab]

Yeah this helps highlight it. A few of these courses may surprise us like Shroom Ridge and sneak in, but most of these tracks aren't getting added to the DLC since the focus will be on recycling all of Tour's brand new tracks along with retro tracks that were in Tour like Choco Mountain or Sky Garden.

What I think the designers should do is focus on the initial 16 retro tracks for the next game having as little overlap with Tour and MK8D as possible. A track like SNES Rainbow Road for example has been playable in the 3 latest Mario Karts now, being MK7, MK8, and Tour and I hope they avoid using those types of tracks yet again to give us a refresh. Basically pick from the above list of unused tracks, add some of 8's originals to be remade, and also go back to some retro tracks that were last used in MKDS and MK Wii's retro cups since we haven't seen those in ages either.

I think at least 1 Bowser Castle and 1 Rainbow Road from list from courses not remade will make into the Booster Course Pass, because it's have much Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road yet.

 

[Hermii]

has it been announced when the next round is releasing?

 

[Leo]

has it been announced when the next round is releasing?

What fun would that be if we can't speculate it to death?

 

[Apopheniac]

the Tour courses are easy on 200cc because they're easy courses. the best 200cc courses are the ones where you actually need the B button

 

[LoneRanger]

has it been announced when the next round is releasing

Likely by summer. Announcing between E3 (mid june) to fall direct (early september)

btw, by datamining we know that they are planning to release future unreleased Tour tracks, can it be based on latest Switch Mario games ? Like Mario Odyssey, Luigis Mansion 3 or Mario 3D World + Bowsers Fury?

 

[Boyfriend]

Likely by summer. Announcing between E3 (mid june) to fall direct (early september)

btw, by datamining we know that they are planning to release future unreleased Tour tracks, can it be based on latest Switch Mario games ? Like Mario Odyssey, Luigis Mansion 3 or Mario 3D World + Bowsers Fury?

nothing's impossible, but currently the tour original tracks have been city courses, merry mountain for the holidays, and ninja hideaway out of nowhere. nothing game related so far

they don't seem very interested in using tour as a marketing vehicle

Is this the first de-make of a course from 8?

in addition to the aforementioned Yoshi Circuit, royal raceway in tour is directly lifted from 8

 

[Dr_Phishshoe]

Is this the first de-make of a course from 8?

Neo Bowser City
Yoshi Circuit
Roayl Raceway

Were all already demaked for Tour

 

[Boyfriend]

Neo Bowser City

neo bowser city is more of a weird case where they didn't downgrade the version from 8 but rather upscaled the version from 7

 

[Jahranimo]

has it been announced when the next round is releasing?

Safe to assume the announcements will be in each of their general directs with a possible release a month after.

 

[jnWake]

in addition to the aforementioned Yoshi Circuit, royal raceway in tour is directly lifted from 8

I wouldn't say "directly" lifted since they changed the trees/bushes from the "realistic" ones in MK8 to the cartoony ones in Tour (and also in the Booster Pass).

 

[Boyfriend]

I wouldn't say "directly" lifted since they changed the trees/bushes from the "realistic" ones in MK8 to the cartoony ones in Tour (and also in the Booster Pass).

well, the same is true of yoshi circuit in that case, but it's pretty obvious what the source for both of them are

 

[Magic-Man]

 

[MondoMega]

Ha, I made the Delfino Square comparison image they use in this thread. Not really convinced about that one; could easily just be a new city course we haven't seen yet, or something entirely different; very blurry!

 

[Magic-Man]

We might get an Odyssey-themed course after all. If that ice cream course is truly new (it might just be a unseen Tour course), that means those unknown courses are most likely all brand new. So 7 total new courses.

 

[Apopheniac]

Made an attempt to guess/predict/wish the rest of the Pass based on the known leaks/datamines.

Spoiler

Turnip Cup:
Tour Los Angeles Laps
SNES Mario Circuit 1
N64 Kalimari Desert
DS Waluigi Pinball

Propeller Cup:
Tour London Loop
GBA Bowser's Castle 2
Wii Maple Treeway
Tour New York Minute

Rock Cup:
Tour Vancouver Velocity
DS DK Pass
GBA Cheep Cheep Island
3DS Wario Shipyard

Moon Cup:
Tour Merry Mountain
GCN Waluigi Stadium
N64 Banshee Boardwalk
3DS Rainbow Road

Berry Cup:
Tour Sydney Sprint
Wii Koopa Cape
DS Airship Fortress
N64 Bowser's Castle

Boomerang Cup:
Tour Berlin Byways
GCN Daisy Cruiser
GBA Sunset Wilds
Tour Singapore Speedway

Feather Cup:
Tour Bangkok
Wii Mushroom Gorge
GBA Yoshi Desert
Tour Athens

Cherry Cup:
Tour Amsterdam
GCN Dino Dino Jungle
SNES Vanilla Lake 1
Tour mu

Acorn Cup:
Tour md
Wii DK Summit
DS Luigi's Mansion
Tour nu

Spiny Cup:
Tour yi
GCN Mushroom City
3DS Bowser's Castle
Wii Rainbow Road

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I wanted to do three Bowser's Castles and one Rainbow Road to mirror the base game, but ended up with two Rainbow Roads, since I like the idea of Wii Rainbow Road as ending the Spiny Cup. I decided to fill in the remaining Tour courses by slotting them in the end of cups where the game of origin wasn't tagged, similar to how the Lucky Cat Cup works, with the other unknowns being used to fill out some more personal picks. Not sure how the difficulty is going to scale or whether they'll want to burn more or fewer fan faves on DLC versus saving them for a new game, but that's beyond the scope of this exercise to figure out.

 

[MondoMega]

We might get an Odyssey-themed course after all. If that ice cream course is truly new (it might just be a unseen Tour course), that means those unknown courses are most likely all brand new. So 7 total new courses.

The sweets-themed track is absolutely an unseen Tour course; all of the images on the banner are Tour promo shots. Only question is when it shows up.

Made an attempt to guess/predict/wish the rest of the Pass based on the known leaks/datamines.

Spoiler

Propeller Cup:
Tour London Loop
GBA Bowser's Castle 2
Wii Maple Treeway
Tour New York Minute

Rock Cup:
Tour Vancouver Velocity
DS DK Pass
GBA Cheep Cheep Island
3DS Wario Shipyard

Moon Cup:
Tour Merry Mountain
GCN Waluigi Stadium
N64 Banshee Boardwalk
3DS Rainbow Road

Berry Cup:
Tour Sydney Sprint
Wii Koopa Cape
DS Airship Fortress
N64 Bowser's Castle

Boomerang Cup:
Tour Berlin Byways
GCN Daisy Cruiser
GBA Sunset Wilds
Tour Singapore Speedway

Feather Cup:
Tour Bangkok
Wii Mushroom Gorge
GBA Yoshi Desert
Tour Athens

Cherry Cup:
Tour Amsterdam
GCN Dino Dino Jungle
SNES Vanilla Lake 1
Tour mu

Acorn Cup:
Tour md
Wii DK Summit
DS Luigi's Mansion
Tour nu

Spiny Cup:
Tour yi
GCN Mushroom City
3DS Bowser's Castle
Wii Rainbow Road

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I wanted to do three Bowser's Castles and one Rainbow Road to mirror the base game, but ended up with two Rainbow Roads, since I like the idea of Wii Rainbow Road as ending the Spiny Cup. I decided to fill in the remaining Tour courses by slotting them in the end of cups where the game of origin wasn't tagged, similar to how the Lucky Cat Cup works, with the other unknowns being used to fill out some more personal picks. Not sure how the difficulty is going to scale or whether they'll want to burn more or fewer fan faves on DLC versus saving them for a new game, but that's beyond the scope of this exercise to figure out.

You forgot to include the Turnip Cup!

 

[Leo]

I've been trying to checklist everything in the game lately and man, getting three stars in every cup in 200cc is hard. The first two races are fine, but for the last two ones you really have to play your A game in the insane speed or you're toast.

 

[xghost777]

I think the 7 ? courses are new courses like Ninja Hideaway. The ones marked Tour are just the city courses and are marked as such so the route change gimmick is noted.

One of the seven is probably Merry Mountain so that leaves six new courses. Some will be from Tour, but I think there is a good chance we’ll get some designed for Mario Kart 8 first that then wind up in Tour (or blur the line by hitting Tour and Mario Kart 8 around the same time). My biggest hope is one is a crossover track, maybe with Kirby?

 

[Apopheniac]

You forgot to include the Turnip Cup!

damn, must've pasted it wrong

 

[Magic-Man]

I think the 7 ? courses are new courses like Ninja Hideaway. The ones marked Tour are just the city courses and are marked as such so the route change gimmick is noted.

One of the seven is probably Merry Mountain so that leaves six new courses. Some will be from Tour, but I think there is a good chance we’ll get some designed for Mario Kart 8 first that then wind up in Tour (or blur the line by hitting Tour and Mario Kart 8 around the same time). My biggest hope is one is a crossover track, maybe with Kirby?

That leaves the game with 14 Tour city courses and 8 unknown courses (I'm assuming Ninja Hideaway was counted as a Tour course and not an unknown on previous lists). So if I'm remembering everything correctly....

TOUR:

1. Paris
2. Tokyo
3. Los Angeles
4. Sydney
5. New York
6. Vancouver
7. Berlin
8. Singapore
9. Amsterdam
10. Bangkok
11. Athens
12. London
13. ??
14. ??

UNKNOWN:

1. Ninja Hideaway
2. Merry Mountain
3. Unknown ice cream course
4. ??
5. ??
6. ??
7. ??
8. ??

 

[MondoMega]

I'm not really convinced that all of the blanks are Tour original tracks, for reasons i've said in this thread before. Not convinced that Ninja Hideaway not being marked as a Tour track in-game is intentional either; though again, we'll have to wait for the next patch to prove this for certain.

What I do think is that perhaps some of the tracks will release in 8DX and Tour around the same time. In the in-game news post for the current Samurai Tour they promote the Booster Course Pass and make a big deal out of Ninja Hideaway being playable in both games.

Of course, Ninja Hideaway was introduced in Tour last year, so it isn't new to that game; but I could still easily see that scenario happening with a totally new course (or perhaps an upcoming known remake like Waluigi Stadium or Koopa Cape).

 

[shoptroll]

Likely by summer. Announcing between E3 (mid june) to fall direct (early september)

I really hope it’s not early September. With 5 more drops before end of 2023 I would expect them to have a fairly even release cadence over the next 20 months or so. I think something every 3-4 months is reasonable barring events out of their control.

 

[xghost777]

I'm not really convinced that all of the blanks are Tour original tracks, for reasons i've said in this thread before. Not convinced that Ninja Hideaway not being marked as a Tour track in-game is intentional either; though again, we'll have to wait for the next patch to prove this for certain.

What I do think is that perhaps some of the tracks will release in 8DX and Tour around the same time. In the in-game news post for the current Samurai Tour they promote the Booster Course Pass and make a big deal out of Ninja Hideaway being playable in both games.

Of course, Ninja Hideaway was introduced in Tour last year, so it isn't new to that game; but I could still easily see that scenario happening with a totally new course (or perhaps an upcoming known remake like Waluigi Stadium or Koopa Cape).

Yeah speculation on this hinges whether Ninja Hideaway not being marked Tour was a mistake or not. Just feels like a weird oversight if it wasn’t intended, but IIRC Smash had weird bits like this that got patched later so it’s not impossible.

 

[LoneRanger]

That leaves the game with 14 Tour city courses and 8 unknown courses (I'm assuming Ninja Hideaway was counted as a Tour course and not an unknown on previous lists). So if I'm remembering everything correctly....

TOUR:

1. Paris
2. Tokyo
3. Los Angeles
4. Sydney
5. New York
6. Vancouver
7. Berlin
8. Singapore
9. Amsterdam
10. Bangkok
11. Athens
12. London
13. ??
14. ??

UNKNOWN:

1. Ninja Hideaway
2. Merry Mountain
3. Unknown ice cream course
4. ??
5. ??
6. ??
7. ??
8. ??

Last two circuits from world real locations I hope they are Rio de Janeiro (south america representation) and last one I’m between Barcelona or Rome, or Beijing/Shanghai to get more Asia representation.

As of unknown category, my hope is something from Mario Odyssey, Luigis Mansion 3, Zelda botw 2 and Splatoon 3.

 

[Magic-Man]

Last two circuits from world real locations I hope they are Rio de Janeiro (south america representation) and last one I’m between Barcelona or Rome, or Beijing/Shanghai to get more Asia representation.

As of unknown category, my hope is something from Mario Odyssey, Luigis Mansion 3, Zelda botw 2 and Splatoon 3.

I was thinking Barcelona and Hong Kong/Seoul personally, although yours are good picks too. However, unless Link and the Inklings are coming to Tour I can't see any crossover tracks in this DLC. All tracks will come to Tour before, same time, or after they come in the DLC.

 

[VolcanicDynamo]

So I'm currently thinking about how to set up a future tournament. You see, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe does have a built-in tournament mode for online play, and we could set that up open for a time period for something quick and dirty, kinda like the Nintendo open tournaments. Lets people jump in, perform their races, and be done with it, assuming people are online at the time. But we got a lot more options with friend room tournaments - it feels more hype to be in a deliberately planned room, and more importantly it can be beneficial for a multi stage tournament. One possibility is using the official tournament mode as a qualifier and then have a more traditional final round.

A lot of MK8D competitive is 6v6 competition, deliberately not using the built-in team settings to force friendly fire, requiring a lot more care. Would people want teams over free-for-alls? The teams could be assigned randomly based on who enters (or people can team up beforehand, I guess) - could even have assigned team leaders for some extra smack talk and fun, kinda thinking of that tournament Alpharad did a month ago, but I might be getting in over my head there, lol - they also had a more casual ruleset going on too with the traditional team set up. From there we could do a bracket or a pool system. I also imagine region may be an issue, mostly for the sake of time zones, but we can talk it out and see when people are free.

All things being equal, if we do have a tournament, I wanna have some fin and entertaining most of all, even if it means things are slightly less competitive. Or maybe we'll end up with all-Waluigi lobbies, I dunno. I'd love to hear people's thoughts!

 

[Discokuningas]

I'm not really convinced that all of the blanks are Tour original tracks, for reasons i've said in this thread before. Not convinced that Ninja Hideaway not being marked as a Tour track in-game is intentional either; though again, we'll have to wait for the next patch to prove this for certain.

What I do think is that perhaps some of the tracks will release in 8DX and Tour around the same time. In the in-game news post for the current Samurai Tour they promote the Booster Course Pass and make a big deal out of Ninja Hideaway being playable in both games.

Of course, Ninja Hideaway was introduced in Tour last year, so it isn't new to that game; but I could still easily see that scenario happening with a totally new course (or perhaps an upcoming known remake like Waluigi Stadium or Koopa Cape).

I think that Ninja hideaway was originally meant to be simultaneous release on both platforms or first as MK8 dlc track. Maybe there was a delay of dlc.

 

[Leo]

Last two circuits from world real locations I hope they are Rio de Janeiro (south america representation) and last one I’m between Barcelona or Rome, or Beijing/Shanghai to get more Asia representation.

As of unknown category, my hope is something from Mario Odyssey, Luigis Mansion 3, Zelda botw 2 and Splatoon 3.

I think they will probably avoid Rio because its most iconic landmark is a religious figure, and Nintendo avoids those in their games.

 

[Hermii]

I think they will probably avoid Rio because its most iconic landmark is a religious figure, and Nintendo avoids those in their games.

Tjue could nintendofy it. Make it a banana statue or something.

Or just ignore it completely, there is plenty of other landmarks there.

 

[megashock5]

I'm still hoping one of the waves will have Daisy Cruiser from Double Dash. Pretty unique and memorable track, IMO.

 

[shoptroll]

I think they will probably avoid Rio because its most iconic landmark is a religious figure, and Nintendo avoids those in their games.

If I recall correctly (and I'm not entirely sure I am) it was one of the landmarks you had to recover in Mario is Missing

 

[Hermii]

If I recall correctly (and I'm not entirely sure I am) it was one of the landmarks you had to recover in Mario is Missing

Mario is missing is not canon.

 

[Leo]

I don't remember any Nintendo games showing any religious iconography in a long time, and there's actually instance of them removing it (that Muslim symbol in OoT), so I really don't think they would show the Christ. I also don't see them changing it to something else (would be way more problematic) and I don't think don't they would do Rio without it at all, but I hope to be wrong, would love to see my country represented

 

[totofogo]

Lmao major Rorschach Test vibes

 

[bloopland33]

How are the other city courses from Tour? I like Paris and Tokyo well enough, but not nearly enough for a dozen more.

The sweets-themed track is absolutely an unseen Tour course; all of the images on the banner are Tour promo shots. Only question is when it shows up.


You forgot to include the Turnip Cup!

Would absolutely be down for another sweets course, I love dessert worlds in games/movies! It will be really hard to not compare it to Sweet Sweet Canyon with its fidelity right there, though.

 

[MrGab]

I'm not really convinced that all of the blanks are Tour original tracks, for reasons i've said in this thread before. Not convinced that Ninja Hideaway not being marked as a Tour track in-game is intentional either; though again, we'll have to wait for the next patch to prove this for certain.

What I do think is that perhaps some of the tracks will release in 8DX and Tour around the same time. In the in-game news post for the current Samurai Tour they promote the Booster Course Pass and make a big deal out of Ninja Hideaway being playable in both games.

Of course, Ninja Hideaway was introduced in Tour last year, so it isn't new to that game; but I could still easily see that scenario happening with a totally new course (or perhaps an upcoming known remake like Waluigi Stadium or Koopa Cape).

@MondoMega if you could, make a image with the 75 remaining courses possible for 40 courses of DLC, without the remix courses, like that image you make in a thread earlier.

 

[Magic-Man]

How are the other city courses from Tour? I like Paris and Tokyo well enough, but not nearly enough for a dozen more.


Would absolutely be down for another sweets course, I love dessert worlds in games/movies! It will be really hard to not compare it to Sweet Sweet Canyon with its fidelity right there, though.

The other courses do get better (Vancouver and Berlin are supposed to be super good), but the original courses are and will continue to be much better.

 

[MondoMega]

How are the other city courses from Tour? I like Paris and Tokyo well enough, but not nearly enough for a dozen more.

Tokyo and Paris are probably the weakest of the city tracks, so things will only go up from here. Vancouver is the best of them; on-par with some of the best past console tracks. Singapore and Los Angeles are one tier behind that; they’ll both be great in 8DX. Sydney, New York and Berlin are okay; and i’m kinda mixed on London. They’re all more interesting than Tokyo and Paris though.

The other non-city Tour original, Merry Mountain, is pretty good too; not as good as Ninja Hideaway (a lot more straightforward, only a few short alternate routes), but still fine.

 

[BlooBeary]

So kinda off topic but does anyone specifically have a transparent version of the Turnip Cup and Propeller Cup icons like the ones featured on page 1 of the thread? I saw that there was the 6 for the other cups but I didn’t see one for Turnip and Propeller.

Also, what’s the font that VolcanicDynamo used in the image for the thread?