StarTopic Nintendo General Discussion |ST5 Feb. 2022| Xenodelayed Chronicles 3

[Legion of Primes]

So that's your game Skittzo? Farming Yeah's?

I see you

Yeah Simulator 2022

 

[Josh5890]

I'm already figuring out how to afford all of these games, Not sure if I'm able to drop another $350~$400 on a hardware revision lol.

 

[Amadeus]

I want this to be the case. But my on cynicism makes me thinks it's not going to be as big of a jump as we're all hoping

Well, going from Skyward Sword to Breath of the Wild was a big jump and it took the team 5 years. They could totally reiterate especially when they know they have to carry on Botw's legacy, they can't do a simple sequel.

 

[Plum]

Apologies for not posting much recently - this Ukraine situation has me in tatters. Just had one of the biggest panic attacks of my life (probably the biggest) cause of it - the sheer terror I have of what might happen, and what is happening, are just too much. It's taking enough of my mental energy to just play some goddamn Elden Ring, let alone make funny/insightful posts for an internet board

Spoiler

I genuinely can't get that excited for BotW2, Gen 9, etc at the end of this year because my brain's convinced me that there isn't going to be an "end of this year.

 

[Legion of Primes]

I'm already figuring out how to afford all of these games, Not sure if I'm able to drop another $350~$400 on a hardware revision lol.

I'm trying to save money these next few months for it

Though I am going to get an autograph from an actor I like soon from sn online event

 

[Linkstrikesback]

For scrubs who didn't want to make it on the playground, perhaps.

Clearly my school was a tier above because People knew the need for a more balanced team even if that definitely meant the 4 legendaries including Mewtwo with a overabundance of flying.

 

[Skittzo]

So that's your game Skittzo? Farming Yeah's?

I see you

Not farming, hunting.

 

[meatbag]

TFW you realize Nintendo could have 8 exclusive RPGs on Switch this year...

Switch truly is the weeb console

Apologies for not posting much recently - this Ukraine situation has me in tatters. Just had one of the biggest panic attacks of my life (probably the biggest) cause of it - the sheer terror I have of what might happen, and what is happening, are just too much. It's taking enough of my mental energy to just play some goddamn Elden Ring, let alone make funny/insightful posts for an internet board

The Ukraine situation sucks and we all hope it gets resolved soon, but frankly there's not much we can do about it. Send some money or goods their way, then look out for your own health. That's the best thing to do.

 

[Deleted member 887]

Apologies for not posting much recently - this Ukraine situation has me in tatters. Just had one of the biggest panic attacks of my life (probably the biggest) cause of it - the sheer terror I have of what might happen, and what is happening, are just too much. It's taking enough of my mental energy to just play some goddamn Elden Ring, let alone make funny/insightful posts for an internet board

living around the corner from the pentagon during a nuclear high alert has got my shit all fucked up. You’re not alone

 

[ngpdrew]

This tweet speaks to me on such a fundamental level I'm almost feeling watched

Same.

The screenshot on the right has become an instant nope for me. I don't have time for all of that nonsense.

 

[Amadeus]

The new Pokémon games look good to me especially when you know GameFreak was working on Arceus in the same time period.
Arceus was a big step up from Sword and Shield but now it just looks like a tech demo for the big chads Violet and Scarlet.
The artstyle grew on me and now I find Arceus way less impressive lol

 

[Raccoon]

Satoru Iwata had this to say in 1999

“Also, I think today’s games are too often asking players to be completely passive entities. They reward your progress with event cutscenes, and it sort of becomes like, ‘Hey, you wanna see the next awesome movie we made, right? then go do this!’ The player ends up feeling like the developers’ little errand boy. I don’t want to make games like that. I want the player to be able to find his own way to enjoy the game.

“I realise that puts a certain demand on players. However, if the industry continues down the path we’re on now, where games are simply about collecting rewards, and gameplay itself becomes stale and formulaic, and the important thing is not having any mistakes or flaws in your game… if we go down that path, there will be no end to it, and games will ultimately all become the same—and very boring.

“Let us therefore sing the praises of the new and the different. (laughs) You know, whenever I talk to games journalists, I always talk about this. But I think it’s a critical issue for the gaming industry.”

Old Satoru Iwata Interview Shows How Little The Games Industry Has Changed | Nintendo Insider

We took a moment to remember late Nintendo president Satoru Iwata last week, which had marked a year since he had sadly passed away.

www.nintendo-insider.com

 

[shoptroll]

Satoru Iwata had this to say in 1999

I Iwata and I don’t necessarily disagree with him but that has a strong whiff of Yamauchi’s “RPGs are for friendless basement dwellers” diss at the PS1 library. Which you know… Nintendo totally cultivated on the NES & SNES.

 

[totofogo]

This tweet speaks to me on such a fundamental level I'm almost feeling watched

I assume that's farcry on the right? Absolutely horrific

 

[mazi]

This tweet speaks to me on such a fundamental level I'm almost feeling watched

YUP

this is what people who have been seething about botw's reception for 5 years don't get. when they call it just another open world game and a ubi-clone, or when they don't get what sets elden ring apart, they're just overlooking this basic difference.

 

[Skittzo]

Satoru Iwata had this to say in 1999

Old Satoru Iwata Interview Shows How Little The Games Industry Has Changed | Nintendo Insider

We took a moment to remember late Nintendo president Satoru Iwata last week, which had marked a year since he had sadly passed away.

www.nintendo-insider.com

Yep. AAA industry has always tried too hard to emulate Hollywood when gaming and movies are totally different media and should be treated as such.

Thankfully there's a lot more to the gaming industry than the usual AAA publishers.

 

[Leo]

Satoru Iwata had this to say in 1999

Old Satoru Iwata Interview Shows How Little The Games Industry Has Changed | Nintendo Insider

We took a moment to remember late Nintendo president Satoru Iwata last week, which had marked a year since he had sadly passed away.

www.nintendo-insider.com

Tbf, when I read that "errand boy" part it does remind more of gaming in 1999 than now. The PS2 generation was full of busywork games with lots of tedious gameplay sections and fetchquests. As much as I like the Square Enix games from that era, doing boring stuff to get to see the next movie does sound familiar when I think of them.

I think games today respect your time much more and give you many options to approach things that aren't necessarily how the devs intended. We are also seeing a lot of gameplay innovation that wasn't possible with past hardware. Or maybe that's because of the types of games I'm exposed to, but that's how I feel anyway.

 

[totofogo]

I'm having an absolutely great monday morning

and yet I still want to falcon punch the person doing this voice over




Thank god we're back to the good pac man design but where the hell are the pac man worlds

 

[MarcelRguez]

Tbf, when I read that "errand boy" part it does remind more of gaming in 1999 than now. The PS2 generation was full of busywork games with lots of tedious gameplay sections and fetchquests. As much as I like the Square Enix games from that era, doing boring stuff to get to see the next movie does sound familiar when I think of them.

I think games today respect your time much more and give you many options to approach things that aren't necessarily how the devs intended. We are also seeing a lot of gameplay innovation that wasn't possible with past hardware. Or maybe that's because of the types of games I'm exposed to, but that's how I feel anyway.

Yup, my mind immediately went to Square's games as well, which are much better at this than they used to.

Playing FFVIIR right now, and it's very obvious how much the devs' priorities have changed in terms of presentation and having at least some player input during narrative segments. By and large, games in which you just drop the controller to watch a >10' cutscene seem to not be that big a thing anymore, in-engine cutscenes with player input are much more prevalent now. This isn't ideal at times either (I hate the all-too-common walk-and-talk segments, for example), but at the very least it adds variety.

 

[shoptroll]

Yep. AAA industry has always tried too hard to emulate Hollywood when gaming and movies are totally different media and should be treated as such.

Yea, there’s a bit of a shift when games went to 3D. Like JRPGs went from feeling like stage plays to movies in the way things were structured and framed. And not just in the cutscenes.

 

[Derachi]

GOOD MORNING!!!! It's Monday! Let's do some POSTING.

Pokemon Scarlet/Violet looks genuinely great and that red starter is a baby goblin and I love him

hope it learned some lessons from Arceus!!!!!

@Derachi I just finished Kamen Rider Blade and that ending sent a dagger through my chest

(last time I tag you about toku nonsense I promise)

(maybe)

Blade is easily my favoruite Heisei Phase 1 show. It's SOOOO weird and textural and genuinely really really interesting and good. It's about where Rider's mid-aughts J-Drama to Sci-Fi-Hero transition was at it's perfect 50/50 equilibrium and it creates a really interesting feeling to the show. Cannot recommend it enough even if the first dozen or so episodes are a bit rough.

I'm always down to talk toku tho never think I'm not!

 

[Dardan Sandiego]

I feel like every generation (or rather "phase") has its own game design sins and it's not like Nintendo has never released games with shallow busywork lmao

 

[shoptroll]

I feel like every generation (or rather "phase") has its own game design sins and it's not like Nintendo has never released games with shallow busywork lmao

Legend of Zelda: Link’s Lawnmower Service

 

[MisterSpo]

Triangle Strategy is pretty tough, but I am annoyed that no small part of my current difficulty is RNG resulting in four missed attacks in a turn.

 

[Skittzo]

I feel like every generation (or rather "phase") has its own game design sins and it's not like Nintendo has never released games with shallow busywork lmao

Or as I like to call it, Animal Crossing.

 

[Mandos]

Since some people seem to overlook this, I do want to point out the point of Xenoblade Chronicles 2’a gacha system is not to get them all(in the first playthrough at least) but rather to give each player a unique first playthrough with a varied side cast each with their own unique story

Are warriors games commonly considered RPGs? I always thought they were considered action games, although they have character leveling up and strategy elements that I could see it counting.

Depends on the game but the modern licensed ones definitely fall under action rpgs. Least it makes more sense on your list than advance wars

 

[Dardan Sandiego]

Or as I like to call it, Animal Crossing.

lmao I'd rather not get into this

 

[totofogo]

GOOD MORNING!!!! It's Monday! Let's do some POSTING.

This is giving over-excited coworker on the Slack random channel and I love it

i.e. me at my company

 

[Legion of Primes]

Going through some motivational issues trying to start a new game again. I want to player either dying light or forbidden west side I haven’t touched either and hesitant to pick up a controller. Happens to me from time to time

I hoped to try and beat either one before triangle strategy but who knows

 

[ngpdrew]

I feel like every generation (or rather "phase") has its own game design sins and it's not like Nintendo has never released games with shallow busywork lmao

Xenoblade: Running errands for your family and friends, the video game.

 

[Legion of Primes]

Thinking about going digital for some upcoming games, I’ve mainly just had issues of games not getting here in time that I order online lately.

I still like having a big physical collection but digital could ge better for a while in some ways anyway

 

[Derachi]

is "pokemon is certainly november therefore botw2 delayed" a topic we've covered? I wasn't here yesterday

 

[Mr_No_U]

Triangle Strategy or as I like to call it

Tri Strat

 

[chocolate_supra]

Xenoblade: Running errands for your family and friends, the video game.

Killing god with the power of friendship errands!!

is "pokemon is certainly november therefore botw2 delayed" a topic we've covered? I wasn't here yesterday

That topic was covered so much that the thread got a visit:

Spoiler

 

[Red Monster]

I'm already figuring out how to afford all of these games, Not sure if I'm able to drop another $350~$400 on a hardware revision lol.

I’m working out how to afford PSVR2. A new Switch will just have to wait!

 

[MisterSpo]

is "pokemon is certainly november therefore botw2 delayed" a topic we've covered? I wasn't here yesterday

There's a whole thread about how Zelda is delayed because Pokemon is coming and because Elden Ring is great.

 

[Skittzo]

is "pokemon is certainly november therefore botw2 delayed" a topic we've covered? I wasn't here yesterday

There's a whole thread about it where I posted a mega-yeah'd rebuttal of the OP.

 

[Derachi]

There's a whole thread about how Zelda is delayed because Pokemon is coming and because Elden Ring is great.

lol


for the record I think botw 2 is March 2023 but I think it was that regardless of pokemon

 

[Derachi]

There's a whole thread about it where I posted a mega-yeah'd rebuttal of the OP.

have another yeah

 

[Skittzo]

have another yeah

Yeah

 

[MisterSpo]

lol


for the record I think botw 2 is March 2023 but I think it was that regardless of pokemon

I'm 100% OK with people thinking Zelda won't launch this year, but I'm not going to lie: I'm also completely sick of how any and all developments in gaming mean that Zelda is delayed. It's been like this within days of Nintendo setting a 2022 date.

 

[Derachi]

I'm 100% OK with people thinking Zelda won't launch this year, but I'm not going to lie: I'm also completely sick of how any and all developments in gaming mean that Zelda is delayed. It's been like this within days of Nintendo setting a 2022 date.

I should clarify I'm like 66% confident it's not this year. It totally could be, but in my mind they've got enough going on in 2022 already that the grandslam of BOTW2 just isn't needed. They sit on finished games all the time. Not to mention BOTW2 is a game-likers' game, that does not need black friday/holiday shopping rush to sell a butt-ton of copies. It's a game that can come out in March and still sell incredibly well because the people that buy Zelda games buy games all year round. They go to Zelda, they do not need Zelda to go to them.

also it's gonna launch with the switch pro in march obviously!!!!!!

 

[Josh5890]

I’m working out how to afford PSVR2. A new Switch will just have to wait!

I'm glad I have zero interest in VR. That saves me big time.

The one thing that gives me some peace of mind is that I know I am not replacing my PS5 or Series S for several years so Picking up new hardware in the (possibly) near future won't be much of a back breaker. The only other hardware I kind of have my eye on is an Analogue Pocket but I know I would use it sparingly at best so I'm holding off for now.

 

[Derachi]

If I keep talking as if a Switch Pro is coming then it HAS to come eventually right????!?!?! Right?!?!?!?!

 

[Skittzo]

If I keep talking as if a Switch Pro is coming then it HAS to come eventually right????!?!?! Right?!?!?!?!

The trick is to stop calling it a Switch Pro and just call it a Future Nintendo Gaming Console.

Then you can't be wrong!

 

[Magic-Man]

 

[totofogo]

Oh cool, the nintendo store has a wishlist feature now and it merges with the eshop one

that makes sense of why they've had two different wishlist pages for a year or so

 

[HockeyBird]

Folks, I have a very original thread idea. It's something that no one else has done before. I just wanted to share my new idea before I make the thread. The thread will be called:

"I think Zelda BOTW 2 will be delayed to 2023".

The content:

Please don't steal. I would hate for this original thread idea to be copied by others.

 

[Magic-Man]

This tweet speaks to me on such a fundamental level I'm almost feeling watched

I don't get why devs don't realize absolutely no one likes seeing a ton of map markers. Such a turn off.

 

[Derachi]

I really hate bringing up Nintendo's next console so much but every time I play anything with a sub 30 frame rate I cannot help myself but desire a new, more performant unit more than anything ever regarding games hardware. I started up SMT V this weekend and I'm really enjoying it (the demon recruitment dialog is incredible) but damn every time the frame rate dips I just sigh.

Like, I don't even want 4K 60 FPS HDR VRR V-Sync Free-Sync Kitchen-Sync FSR DLSS Ray Tracing etc, I just want a rock solid stable 1080p (even a locked 720p would be ok) 30fps minimum. That's it!