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Sales Data Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: Pokémon BDSP (13.97M), Mario Party Superstars (5.43M), Metroid Dread (2.74M), and more

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Mekanos said:
I thought Dread hit 2.7 million?
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I read in the other thread that it was 2.7m shipped, 2.3m sold. Someone can correct me if that's wrong.

Anyway, just went and looked up Samus Returns sales. For the grand return of 2d Metroid, that sure was a dud. 500k.

In comparison to that, this is an enormous success and I'm quite sure it'll be getting a sequel, which is what matters. My concern at the sales is more about getting more people's hands on such a phenomenal game.
 
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jariw said:
Have anyone checked how BOTW, Smash Ultimate and AC:NH are doing compared to the collective sales of the previous 3D Zeldas/Smash games/mainline ACs?
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from install base:

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Skyward Sword not really blowing up is not surprising tbh. It's a barebones quality re-release of a game that has a poor reputation, sold at full price. That's not going to entice a lot of people to try it out, and I imagine it was further undercut by streamers and others struggling with the controls.
 
Animal Crossing become 3rd best selling Nintendo exclusive, Pokemon Sword/Shield become 2nd best selling Pokemon game. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold 4.6m only last quarter.
 
I'm always amazed by the sales of the evergreens. For example, Mario Kart has a >40% in a console wit an install base above 100m. I think this is unprecedented (for a non bundled game). And these sales are even more amazing when most of these games have been selling at full price, aside from the occasional small discount or bundle.
 
Mekanos said:
Skyward Sword's numbers make sense to me given that this was a game already on a huge install base with the Wii, even if it was a decade ago. I doubt there's much room for growth there. Nintendo didn't really advertise it much either, to be honest.

Personally as someone who bought it on Wii, there wasn't enough added to warrant a 60 dollar price tag. I wonder how many felt similarly.
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I personally expected it will be 5m+ seller, but even 4m+ seller is still very good result for remaster of not exactly most popular Zelda game,
Zelda SS is very different even compared to other Zelda games not to mention Zelda BotW.
 
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If one day Nintendo decides to give us a new Nintendo selects collection I'm sure Dread could potentially reach 4-5M, for now we're aiming at 3M+ lifespan I think.
 
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Looking at it all, City Folk has gotta be one of Nintendo‘s biggest missed opportunities. Had they actually gone about it right, animal crossing could have absolutely exploded on the Wii
 
Sad to see Splatoon 2 out of the top 10 but with a new Pokemon game and Ring Fit's legs it was inevitable. I also thought 3D World was going to be a bigger hit, at least at 10 million by now. It's going to have great legs but it's probably capping out at around half of Odyssey's LTD sales unless it's the next Mario Kart.

BDSP overperformed compared to my expectations. The thing is much like NSMBU it won't last. I do think its legs will be somewhat more significant than Let's Go's but not by a significant margin and with Legends Arceus last week, Zelda in November, Gen 9 looming on the horizon and possibly even Mario Kart 9 if rumors are to be believed, anything below Odyssey has its days numbered. I'd have bet on Super Mario Party putting up a good fight if it hadn't been for Superstars. Also no Mario Maker in the million sellers, that game was done dirty by its devs and audience alike.
 
Insanely impressive. So glad to see smaller titles getting massive success such as Wario and Dread. This is the best Nintendo timeline lol.

Although I really wish we could see updated numbers for Xenoblade Chronicles DE, 2 and Fire Emblem Three Houses.

Mario Kart 8 though...what in the actual...I have no words for that monstrous game.
 
It's going to be interesting how Nintendo follows up New Horizons. That game has reached basically the biggest audience it could have had, and probably two thirds of them were new to the series. As a result, I'm not sure if the typical Animal Crossing sequel formula of mild tweaks will be enough to entice all those people back, yet I'm also totally unsure what they could add - other than improved social dynamics between villagers, which is the opposite direction they've been taking the series for some time.

I will say that New Horizons innovation of letting you design the entire island was absolutely inspired. Everything about it was.
 
Phendrift said:
Yeah after those SSHD numbers Nintendo would be insane to charge $60 for WW and TP because SS hadn’t even been ported before.

They need to double pack or charge less.

It’s not bad numbers, but that’s what it means to me.
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Two double packs, A hero of time bundle with HD versions of the 3DS OoT/MM and WW/ TP in the other. There’s no reason to not do it like that. Those will sell like crazy.
 
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Wockio said:
Sad to see Splatoon 2 out of the top 10 but with a new Pokemon game and Ring Fit's legs it was inevitable. I also thought 3D World was going to be a bigger hit, at least at 10 million by now. It's going to have great legs but it's probably capping out at around half of Odyssey's LTD sales unless it's the next Mario Kart.

BDSP overperformed compared to my expectations. The thing is much like NSMBU it won't last. I do think its legs will be somewhat more significant than Let's Go's but not by a significant margin and with Legends Arceus last week, Zelda in November, Gen 9 looming on the horizon and possibly even Mario Kart 9 if rumors are to be believed, anything below Odyssey has its days numbered. I'd have bet on Super Mario Party putting up a good fight if it hadn't been for Superstars. Also no Mario Maker in the million sellers, that game was done dirty by its devs and audience alike.
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Half of Odyssey’s sales for 3D World makes sense given that’s about the drop off from Galaxy 1 > 2.
 
YoboD said:
Great to see Dread is already nearly the best selling game in the series. WarioWare passing a million is nice too.

Hopefully with the success of Dread and partnering with Nintendo Mercury Steam realise they need to be treating their employees better.
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Yeah I doubt that is gonna happen from them unfortunately

Edit: also for Metroid the test will be Prime 4 to see if there is any retention. Still think it needs to do some things for better legs and reach
 
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Heron said:
It's going to be interesting how Nintendo follows up New Horizons. That game has reached basically the biggest audience it could have had, and probably two thirds of them were new to the series. As a result, I'm not sure if the typical Animal Crossing sequel formula of mild tweaks will be enough to entice all those people back, yet I'm also totally unsure what they could add - other than improved social dynamics between villagers, which is the opposite direction they've been taking the series for some time.
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I think part of why New Horizons did so well is it already deliberately avoided the previous problem you just described of Animal crossing titles only being mild tweaks.

It's by far the biggest change the series has ever undergone with the focus on being able to design everything outdoors and new things like the crafting system that now forms a fair chunk of the game.

If I was Nintendo, the things I'd go for in a sequel are more interesting interactions with items between both your character and the villagers (there's already some of this in pocket camp), and then take a little more inspiration from other titles in the genre, improving social dynamics like you said, but also things like being able to get pets (hey, we can eat fish now, pets would be less offensive to some of the villagers than that!), maybe improved farming type mechanics, though the deliberate minimalism they went for maybe precludes them from building too far on that.

Maybe a better inclusion of existing NPCs too than just shoving a bunch of them off to a separate island/city street/inside the museum because you added them later and couldn't expect people to upend their islands to try and fit them all in.
 
Mekanos said:
Half of Odyssey’s sales for 3D World makes sense given that’s about the drop off from Galaxy 1 > 2.
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I thought the gap would be a lot closer because both games are pretty unique takes on 3D Mario and that multiplayer alone would be enough of a hook to get people who played Odyssey to double dip, unlike Galaxy where people may go "I got my fill of that". I'm still pretty confident it's going to outsell NSMBUDX even though that has pretty good legs.

fwd-bwd said:
Super Mario Maker 2 sold over 7 million copies
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Yeah I know, I just meant that it didn't quite make it to 1 million just for this Q1-Q3 period when I remember it showing up last year. We still got another quarter left so hopefully it makes it even if just barely.
 
Josh5890 said:
I would have thought Skyward Sword had a good chance of matching Links Awakening at 5.7m.

Now I'm not so sure.
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I doubt it will. Personally I'd expect it to land somewhere in the 4.5 million range by next spring. Link's Awakening's opening shipments were lower than SS:HD, but it did 1 million in the Christmas quarter while SS:HD has only done 250k.
Phendrift said:
Yeah after those SSHD numbers Nintendo would be insane to charge $60 for WW and TP because SS hadn’t even been ported before.

They need to double pack or charge less.

It’s not bad numbers, but that’s what it means to me.
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I don't think we can extrapolate much from Skyward Sword for other Zelda titles, to be honest, and I don't expect Nintendo to adjust their approach to solo released remasters. Selling in the 4 to 5 million range, for example, as SS:HD eventually will, still means the re-releases are performing as well as the series traditionally did. They were both more popular titles than SS at the time of their original launch, too, and by September 2023, Wind Waker HD will be a decade old. There'd be every chance of the game matching or outdoing the original's (GC) 4.5 million and making Nintendo a tidy profit.

Funnily enough, along with Link's Awakening (2019), only the Switch re-releases of Zelda titles have actually outsold the original releases.
 
Phendrift said:
Yeah after those SSHD numbers Nintendo would be insane to charge $60 for WW and TP because SS hadn’t even been ported before.

They need to double pack or charge less.

It’s not bad numbers, but that’s what it means to me.
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It's the only Zelda remaster that outsold the original 😬

Ocarina of Time - 7,6m
Ocarina of Time 3D - 6,22m

Majora's Mask - 3,36m
Majora's Mask 3D - 3,28m

Wind Waker - 4,43m
Wind Waker HD - 2,35m

Twilight Princess - 8,69m
Twilight Princess HD - 1,13m

Skyward Sword - 3,67m
Skyward Sword HD - 3,85m

Which mainly goes to show how relatively unsuccessful the original was
 
On the topic of Skyword HD sales, I think it's a mixed bag. On the one hand, it has the second worst ratio of units sold given the install base of all 3D Zelda titles - and that is, by no means, a bad output. On the other hand, it is the only remaster that has surpassed its original release, it is the second most sold remaster of them all and... well, the only other Zelda title with an even worse ratio than it it's the OG Skyward Sword. Anyway, it should be noted that this numbers are just of the first six months of the HD version, but given the drastic decline on sales on its second quarter on the market, it's safe to assume that they are not gonna change a lot.

I've compiled the data, based on the numbers of Megamondo, in a table for an easier look and comparison:

Original​
Remaster​
OG sales/consoles​
Remaster sales/consoles
OG console software ratio​
Remaster console software ratio​
Ocarina of Time​
7,6​
6,22​
23,08%​
8,19%​
6,8318​
5,1092​
Majora's Mask​
3,36​
3,28​
10,20%​
4,32%​
6,8318​
5,1092​
Wind Waker​
4,43​
2,35​
20,38%​
17,33%​
9,5938​
7,6268​
Twilight Princess​
7,26​
1,43​
7,14%​
10,55%​
9,0706​
7,6268​
Skyward Sword​
3,67​
3,85​
3,61%​
3,72%​
9,0706​
7,4021​

So, all in all, not a bad output, but I wouldn't call it an amazing one.


Edit: Oh, I was not the fastest one on this, it seems. At least the ratios may be of help to some.
 
Only 2.7 millions in 3 months after all that push? New F-Zero would do double of that easily

joking aside this is good since it's a 2D game, Prime 4 was always the game to look forward to in term of how much the Metroid serie can grow
 
Ohhh wait, I just realized, no NSO and Expansion Pack sub numbers? Are they saving that for the full FY report?
 
BotW being in the top 4 best selling Switch games is completely ridiculous if you look at the sales for older Zelda games. Heck, it's ridiculous - full stop.

I wouldn't take SS, AoC or LA sales too seriously as an indicator for BotW2's success. It's clear as day that these are quite different compared to BotW and people are aware of that. Also just look at how much legs BotW still has. The audience is there and hungry.

SS' so-so sales don't really surprise me: it's the most niche of the mainline Zelda games with it's nearly total focus on puzzle box design. A treat for puzzle dungeon crawlers - which isn't that big of an audience.
 
Phendrift said:
Yeah after those SSHD numbers Nintendo would be insane to charge $60 for WW and TP because SS hadn’t even been ported before.

They need to double pack or charge less.

It’s not bad numbers, but that’s what it means to me.
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You talking like almost 4m (it will be 4m+ LT) is bad number for remaster, that good number even for brand new game not to mentione remaster,
they would probably made nice profit even with only 1m sold copies.

But I think that WW/TP HD will be double pack in any case.
 
Wockio said:
Ohhh wait, I just realized, no NSO and Expansion Pack sub numbers? Are they saving that for the full FY report?
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They don't consistently release figures for subscribers. I do think the odds of updated figures are higher in May, though.
 
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Despite knowing it's a pretty good number, i wished Dread would've broken the 3 million by the time the data for the report was gathered.

Basically complaining at a very high level. ^^
 
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xghost777 said:
Does anyone have the Metroid series sales data? Mainly just curious what’s ahead of Dread at this point.
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from install base:

Metroid lifetime-to-date shipments:

Metroid Prime (GC): 2.84 million
Metroid Dread (NSW): 2.74 million
Metroid (NES): 2.73 million
Metroid 2 Return of Samus (GB): 1.72 million
Metroid Fusion (GBA): 1.60 million
Super Metroid (SNES): 1.42 million
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption (Wii): 1.41 million
Metroid Prime 2 (GC): 1.10 million
Metroid Prime Hunters (DS): 1.08 million

Below 1 million:
Metroid Zero Mission (GBA) (482K in USA, 85K in Japan)
Metroid Other M (Wii) (349K in USA, 76K in Japan)
Metroid Samus Returns (3DS) (42K in Japan)
Metroid Prime Pinball (DS) (172K in USA, 15K in Japan)
Metroid Prime Federation Force (3DS) (6K in Japan)
 
jariw said:
Have anyone checked how BOTW, Smash Ultimate and AC:NH are doing compared to the collective sales of the previous 3D Zeldas/Smash games/mainline ACs?
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All those 3 have destroyed the sales of their predecessors.
Brawl was around 13M and Twilight Princess like 8-9M without including the remaster.
Someone will most likely provide the exact numbers.
 
Heron said:
I think you make a good point that this is a 2d game. It can't be compared to the Prime series, which probably have a far higher sales potential. I was taking the series as a whole and not making that distinction.

We're also in an era where 2d games are seen as lesser value, and rarely cost $60. So I was hoping this would be Metroid's "Fire Emblem Awakening" moment, where sales jump 2-3 times previous highs, but I suppose if you look solely at the 2d Metroids, this is close to that.

That's good perspective. I do hope Prime 4 (if a good game) would push 5 million. You see Luigi's Mansion, a strange, niche kind of game selling 11m+ and you feel like any critically acclaimed Nintendo game should be able to get to 5m lol

Still though. 2.3m sell through. I wanted more.
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2d Zeldas average like 3-5M so Dread getting close to that is amazing. Luigi's Masion 3 is a high budget game with one of the most popular video character. Not actually niche. Prime is gonna be interesting cuz imo it needs a bigger shake up to its formula than Dread did to reach crazier sale figures.
 
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Assuming Prime 4 satisfies audiences as well as Dread did, I think it’ll clear 5 million but I can’t predict much more until we get a better look at the game. But a slow-paced, moody single player sci-fi shooter is still gonna have a ceiling with general audiences, especially without a strong Japanese userbase buying in. Like if it’s an absolute triumph of gaming and generally seen as a GOTG candidate, maybe it can get to something like 6-7 million, but basically no chance it comes close to something like Luigi’s Mansion IMO.
 
Dark Cloud said:
Yeah SSHD is also disappointing. Don’t expect sales to do much more.
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That's good news on my book, shows Nintendo they might have to do a little more of they want remastered Wii games to be a big hit. Doubt they would sell WW and TP separately now like people were afraid.
 
Leo said:
That's good news on my book, shows Nintendo they might have to do a little more of they want remastered Wii games to be a big hit. Doubt they would sell WW and TP separately now like people were afraid.
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I wished they would do more. XenoblaDE was very satisfying and Super Mario 3D World, but these remasters are in the minority.
 
3D World's Switch port packing in a solid 5-10 hour subgame makes it a very good value for double dippers, not even factoring in all the QOL additions to 3D World as well as online multiplayer. I would have probably bought SS for 40 bucks, but 60 was just not happening.

A WW/TP double pack would be great, but I'm still not sure what they're gonna do with those games. Guess we'll see.
 
Mekanos said:
3D World's Switch port packing in a solid 5-10 hour subgame makes it a very good value for double dippers, not even factoring in all the QOL additions to 3D World as well as online multiplayer. I would have probably bought SS for 40 bucks, but 60 was just not happening.

A WW/TP double pack would be great, but I'm still not sure what they're gonna do with those games. Guess we'll see.
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I don’t think they’re doing to double pack them. Why double them when you can sell them separately for $60? I mean how many more copies would a double pack sell compared to these two separately?

I don’t see a double pack happening.
 
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