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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 253 56.9%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 52 11.7%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 73 16.4%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 28 6.3%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 39 8.8%
  • Total voters
    445
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More reflective of how bad the industry is at this point in time, but I can't believe how well everything is shaping up for Nintendo and the Switch 2.

  • Pretty competitive hardware based on the leaks and shipment docs that showcase some very capable tech between PS4 Pro and Series S
  • Square going aggressive with AAA multiplats on Switch 2
  • Microsoft going full 3rd party with their first party games on Switch 2
  • Call of Duty contractually signed to come to Switch 2 for 10 years
  • Xbox Series S making it so much easier for Switch 2 to get multiplats due to compatibility requirement for all Xbox games, making the gap from the "lowest power console hardware" to Switch 2 incredibly small compared to PS4/PS5 to OG Switch. It wouldn't take a second thought to lower the game specs a tiny bit more to get a brand new huge audience on the Nintendo console since they already have to do it for Series S. And Switch 2 would have more RAM as well
  • Japan essentially being in the palm of their hand
  • Indies thrive off Nintendo hardware, maybe more than any other console platform

This may be the most diversely supported Nintendo hardware ever
 
Procheno said:
More reflective of how bad the industry is at this point in time, but I can't believe how well everything is shaping up for Nintendo and the Switch 2.

  • Pretty competitive hardware based on the leaks and shipment docs that showcase some very capable tech between PS4 Pro and Series S
  • Square going aggressive with AAA multiplats on Switch 2
  • Microsoft going full 3rd party with their first party games on Switch 2
  • Call of Duty contractually signed to come to Switch 2 for 10 years
  • Xbox Series S making it so much easier for Switch 2 to get multiplats due to compatibility requirement for all Xbox games, making the gap from the "lowest power console hardware" to Switch 2 incredibly small compared to PS4/PS5 to OG Switch. It wouldn't take a second thought to lower the game specs a tiny bit more to get a brand new huge audience on the Nintendo console since they already have to do it for Series S. And Switch 2 would have more RAM as well
  • Japan essentially being in the palm of their hand
  • Indies thrive off Nintendo hardware, maybe more than any other console platform

This may be the most diversely supported Nintendo hardware ever
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And the only thing I can think is : “how they will ruin this opportunity” 🤣
 
Procheno said:
More reflective of how bad the industry is at this point in time, but I can't believe how well everything is shaping up for Nintendo and the Switch 2.

  • Pretty competitive hardware based on the leaks and shipment docs that showcase some very capable tech between PS4 Pro and Series S
  • Square going aggressive with AAA multiplats on Switch 2
  • Microsoft going full 3rd party with their first party games on Switch 2
  • Call of Duty contractually signed to come to Switch 2 for 10 years
  • Xbox Series S making it so much easier for Switch 2 to get multiplats due to compatibility requirement for all Xbox games, making the gap from the "lowest power console hardware" to Switch 2 incredibly small compared to PS4/PS5 to OG Switch. It wouldn't take a second thought to lower the game specs a tiny bit more to get a brand new huge audience on the Nintendo console since they already have to do it for Series S. And Switch 2 would have more RAM as well
  • Japan essentially being in the palm of their hand
  • Indies thrive off Nintendo hardware, maybe more than any other console platform

This may be the most diversely supported Nintendo hardware ever
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Another nail in the coffin of this being a Wii U situation. Switch 2 is coming in right int he middle of the cycle for the other 2. Wii U was first out of the gate and was overshadowed by Sony/MS a year later. 3DS too, as Sony waited for its reveal to announce the Vita.

A LOT can still go wrong, but it does feel like Nintendo's timing is pretty good.
 
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Procheno said:
More reflective of how bad the industry is at this point in time, but I can't believe how well everything is shaping up for Nintendo and the Switch 2.

  • Pretty competitive hardware based on the leaks and shipment docs that showcase some very capable tech between PS4 Pro and Series S
  • Square going aggressive with AAA multiplats on Switch 2
  • Microsoft going full 3rd party with their first party games on Switch 2
  • Call of Duty contractually signed to come to Switch 2 for 10 years
  • Xbox Series S making it so much easier for Switch 2 to get multiplats due to compatibility requirement for all Xbox games, making the gap from the "lowest power console hardware" to Switch 2 incredibly small compared to PS4/PS5 to OG Switch. It wouldn't take a second thought to lower the game specs a tiny bit more to get a brand new huge audience on the Nintendo console since they already have to do it for Series S. And Switch 2 would have more RAM as well
  • Japan essentially being in the palm of their hand
  • Indies thrive off Nintendo hardware, maybe more than any other console platform

This may be the most diversely supported Nintendo hardware ever
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To add to this, Xbox is going down the drain and probably won't be a viable console in five years, leaving a revenue gap that companies need to fill. GTA6 will probably come to the platform alongside the PC port.
 
I know there are a lot opportunities, still keep expectations in check;

1) Expect GTA VI not to arrive on the platform.
2) Bamco’s non-anime releases won’t hit the system. And if they arrive, it won’t be until much later.
3) RTG Studios about not releasing on Switch 2: yeah, well, we’ll think of some bullshit reason why we do not feel like releasing on a Nintendo system.
4) EA apparantly have sons called Luigi.

I know pessimistic, but unless Harada or whoever is in charge of RGT Studios aren’t taken kicking and screaming, they’ll keep their games on the same platform.
 
Sadist said:
I know there are a lot opportunities, still keep expectations in check;

1) Expect GTA VI not to arrive on the platform.
2) Bamco’s non-anime releases won’t hit the system. And if they arrive, it won’t be until much later.
3) RTG Studios about not releasing on Switch 2: yeah, well, we’ll think of some bullshit reason why we do not feel like releasing on a Nintendo system.
4) EA apparantly have sons called Luigi.

I know pessimistic, but unless Harada or whoever is in charge of RGT Studios aren’t taken kicking and screaming, they’ll keep their games on the same platform.
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Why would GTA6 not come over? If the Series S can handle it the Switch 2 will be able to (with graphical downgrades of course). Apparently GTAV didn't come for storage reasons as opposed to graphical reasons.
 
Serif said:
Switch 2 is most clear. The argument of 'Nintendo doesn't use numbers' is (a) untrue [Super Game Boy 2], (b) sure, they don't do it - until they do it. This is uncharted territory, one of their most profitable consoles ever, but also now their only device on the market. The sting of the Wii U remains. It is possible to use a name like 'Switch Ultra' and have the marketing effectively convey it is a next-gen console - or just use 'Switch 2' and have that immediately understood by everyone. The layperson understands sequential ordering and the association between +1 and 'next-generation/better'.

The perception of it being a 'boring' name is not particularly a compelling reason either, what name did Nintendo give one of their best-selling, innovative consoles with standout features? 'DS'. Names are marketing. 'Switch' was extremely popular'. 'Switch 2' is eyecatching because it indicates a follow-up to one of the most popular consoles of all time. The number '2' brings excitement when what proceeds it was well received.

I am not convinced that Nintendo is allergic to numbers or that using it is some betrayal of their creative spark.
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I genuinely believe that anything other Switch 2 will do worse than it.


Anything else diminishes from the switch brand. When you've nailed the core of your product the most intuitive way to go is the numbering system.

Naming it "Super Switch" distinguishes the product more than is needed. It also has old gaming system vibes which I don't think is a strength. Switch is an innovative gadget that happens to support the best 1st party gaming software exclusively.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why would GTA6 not come over? If the Series S can handle it the Switch 2 will be able to (with graphical downgrades of course). Apparently GTAV didn't come for storage reasons as opposed to graphical reasons.
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I think GTAV didn't release on Switch because of the Online. Like Witcher 3 is a meaty 39GB.

Like red dead redemption arrived on Switch because the Online is non existent.
If Switch 2 is capable of good online for GTA6, it'll arrive on the Switch 2 immediately, like the online of GTA 5 has received almost 8 Billion dollar in revenue, like i can see it happening, especially when the Xbox brand is kinda in the dirt.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why would GTA6 not come over? If the Series S can handle it the Switch 2 will be able to (with graphical downgrades of course). Apparently GTAV didn't come for storage reasons as opposed to graphical reasons.
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I've pointed out Storage as a possible concern if GTA6 is unsually large and they can't get it to fit into 256GB storage that comes with the system (assuming it really is 256) but Nintendo and 2K would have to be talking right now, and probably for a long time and each side knows if the game is coming or not at this point.

GTA6 on Switch2 is the games equivalent of the SoC node process, people will just talk in circles until facts are revealed or it gets announced and either skips Switch 2 or does't. There's good arguments on both sides, and people have been conditioned to be very pessimistic when it comes to R* games on Nintendo platforms, despite an uptick in recent support. There;s always a reason why things don't count.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why would GTA6 not come over? If the Series S can handle it the Switch 2 will be able to (with graphical downgrades of course). Apparently GTAV didn't come for storage reasons as opposed to graphical reasons.
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I could see CPU constraints being a big limiter, since this game will have a massive ton of things going on at once on and around the screen, along with the behavior and physics of those things being much more complex than gta 5. Lots and lots of fun and exciting math crunching that may go over and beyond the Switch 2 CPU's carrying capacity

But if gta 6 DOES somehow make it to the switch 2 though I'd gladly eat my words, for now I'm gonna set the expectation that it won't to prevent any future disappointment.
 
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Dekuman said:
I've pointed out Storage as a possible concern if GTA6 is unsually large and they can't get it to fit into 256GB storage that comes with the system (assuming it really is 256) but Nintendo and 2K would have to be talking right now, and probably for a long time and each side knows if the game is coming or not at this point.

GTA6 on Switch2 is the games equivalent of the SoC node process, people will just talk in circles until facts are revealed or it gets announced and either skips Switch 2 or does't. There's good arguments on both sides, and people have been conditioned to be very pessimistic when it comes to R* games on Nintendo platforms, despite an uptick in recent support. There;s always a reason why things don't count.
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I really don't think GTA6 will be over 200GB (and definitely not 250GB). Is there any game that large? Even COD and Destiny 2 aren't, and those are the biggest games I know of.
 
LoneRanger said:
Well tomorrow next Assasins Creed will be officially announced, lets see if Ubisoft will mention a Switch 2 version existance or will have to wait for some insider/journalist to say lt.

Of course if there are plans of one…
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it would be nice, but I think we'll have to wait until summer
 
LoneRanger said:
Well tomorrow next Assasins Creed will be officially announced, lets see if Ubisoft will mention a Switch 2 version existance or will have to wait for some insider/journalist to say lt.

Of course if there are plans of one…
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Think Ubisoft will be one of the biggest supporters of Switch 2. Lots of ports and new games they can bring.
 
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Procheno said:
I don't think they'll outwardly announce it for Switch 2
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They can say next gen switch system. I mean either you say it or not. And if you want to be on the Nintendo next gen train you will announce it’s coming to Switch 2 right now. These third party companies can’t wait. If they’re allowed to announce Switch 2 games then they need to do it in instances like this
 
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LoneRanger said:
Well tomorrow next Assasins Creed will be officially announced, lets see if Ubisoft will mention a Switch 2 version existance or will have to wait for some insider/journalist to say lt.

Of course if there are plans of one…
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They won't say anything about it, because the game is due out this year and the Switch 2 definitely isn't.
 
Sadist said:
3) RTG Studios about not releasing on Switch 2: yeah, well, we’ll think of some bullshit reason why we do not feel like releasing on a Nintendo system.
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There's no way they can afford to keep ignoring the Switch from now on. They can't count solely on the PS5 to sell their games, especially in Japan which is their biggest audience.
 
Leo said:
There's no way they can afford to keep ignoring the Switch from now on. They can't count solely on the PS5 to sell their games, especially in Japan which is their biggest audience.
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if they change, I suspect it'll be forced on them from the top of Sega. if they feel like the west can continue to pick up the slack, they'll continue on their course until the bottom falls out or Sega puts their foot down. and I suspect the latter will happen given what Midori has said
 
Dekuman said:
To answer the question posed in that closed thread, i do believe the Twitter announcement is basically Nintendo beginning the production process and knowing leaks will happen and getting ahead of it. They also know that with the media cycles ramping up for 3rd parties around the former E3 months in June, games are going to get announced where Switch 2 is one of the platforms so i think 3rd parties wanted/nintendo wanted Switch 2 to be mentioned along side.

And to answer the new poll question about How confident I am that I will have a Switch 2 by April 2025, i would say I'm fairly confident the Switch 2 will be out by then. I'm a bit less confident that I will have one, as I am worried about scalpers and shortages. That said, Nintendo did say they plan to have a lot of inventory on hand for the launch. So maybe it will not be as hard to find especially if they are aiming for a 10 million unit launch.

Finally can i say what a relief this has finally been announced? feels like we've been let ouf of purgatory.
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I'm starting to wonder about this, 3rd parties wo7ld probably want a "logo" to go with it. That means atleast a codename probably. We knew the switch as NX for years which provided a perfect little logo 3rd parties could put in the lettering at the bottom
 
Foxuzamakk said:
I'm starting to wonder about this, 3rd parties wo7ld probably want a "logo" to go with it. That means atleast a codename probably. We knew the switch as NX for years which provided a perfect little logo 3rd parties could put in the lettering at the bottom
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it's quite possible we don't get logos attached until much later this year when the official reveal happens, but what it may allow right now is for devs to openly talk about next gen Switch being one of the target platforms.

The AC announcement could be the template for some of the games being announced. They will confirm for existing platforms first
 
I have to say that I took a look at wiiu st the other day and I realized that almost everyone at the time was very confident about the release of gta5 on wiiu
As for me, I think GTA 6 will still land on Switch 2. Unlike the Wii, Rockstar has already tasted success on the Switch
 
gonanzir said:
I have to say that I took a look at wiiu st the other day and I realized that almost everyone at the time was very confident about the release of gta5 on wiiu
As for me, I think GTA 6 will still land on Switch 2. Unlike the Wii, Rockstar has already tasted success on the Switch
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Rockstar had modest successes on Wii as well. At least as far as you can get with the limited selection they offered. Table Tennis and Bully probably did fine for the late releases they were. Manhunt 2 probably bombed out everywhere
 
ILikeFeet said:
Rockstar had modest successes on Wii as well. At least as far as you can get with the limited selection they offered. Table Tennis and Bully probably did fine for the late releases they were. Manhunt 2 probably bombed out everywhere
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How mach bully's sales?
If gta6 does not announce that it will land on switch2 after the release of the host, I think it is no more
 
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I'm fairly certain most big Japanese publishers will take the Switch 2 very seriously. The likes of Square, Sega, Capcom, Bandai etc will release many more of their games on Switch 2.

Western publishers are more unsure, many more western studios like to push graphics hard so some like GTA 6 and other big AAA western games may still just skip Switch 2 in the future.
 
Leo said:
There's no way they can afford to keep ignoring the Switch from now on. They can't count solely on the PS5 to sell their games, especially in Japan which is their biggest audience.
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They can probably survive fine just off PS5 + PC sales. PC is a big market for them, especially in the West.
 
The Switch had a bigger third party support from Western Publishers (indies and BIG studios) than the Japanese side.

Bethesda, Ubisoft, 2K, Rockstar, Blizzard were all there first year. Epic ported Fortnite as fast as they could (got there by June 2018). That’s their flagship title.

Sega didn’t move. Level-5 basically abandoned Nintendo despite how huge their games were on the 3DS. Square Enix said you’re only getting AA titles and ports of old AA titles. Capcom basically did the same thing. Made the Switch a dumping ground. They took years to get an actual MH game on the Switch.

Even Gamefreak said it’s a flop.

The Western side was way more optimistic about the Switch.
 
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Bold name prediction based on a fake NX leak I saw 8 years ago:

The system’s name will include the word “Duo” (either Nintendo Switch Duo or Nintendo Duo).

This will be done as Duo means “a pair of two” (emphasizing its successor role) while having double meaning to the two magnetic Joy-Cons - with the attraction and repulsion of the duo bring a core part of the logo and accompanying animation.
 
TheMindOfThomas said:
Bold name prediction based on a fake NX leak I saw 8 years ago:

The system’s name will include the word “Duo” (either Nintendo Switch Duo or Nintendo Duo).

This will be done as Duo means “a pair of two” (emphasizing its successor role) while having double meaning to the two magnetic Joy-Cons - with the attraction and repulsion of the duo bring a core part of the logo and accompanying animation.
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I like it, I can imagine the commercials yelling 'Switch Du-oooo'. It's cute, and most people will get it means '2'. Also calls back to the out of box multiplayer.
 
Multiverse said:
The Switch had a bigger third party support from Western Publishers (indies and BIG studios) than the Japanese side.

Bethesda, Ubisoft, 2K, Rockstar, Blizzard were all there first year. Epic ported Fortnite as fast as they could (got there by June 2018). That’s their flagship title.

Sega didn’t move. Level-5 basically abandoned Nintendo despite how huge their games were on the 3DS. Square Enix said you’re only getting AA titles and ports of old AA titles. Capcom basically did the same thing. Made the Switch a dumping ground. They took years to get an actual MH game on the Switch.

Even Gamefreak said it’s a flop.

The Western side was way more optimistic about the Switch.
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Yes but that will change with the Switch 2, the Japanese publishers need the money even more. Western games like GTA can easily skip Nintendo hardware for all time. Can the next Final Fantasy skip Nintendo? That is very much more unclear.

And most big Japanese studios don't push graphics to extreme levels like the western studios do. I mean they continue making games for PS4 and continues to use Unreal engine 4 like nothing is changing. Making it easy for them to just release most of their games on Switch 2 as well.
 
One of the weirder skippers of the OG Switch was Aquaplus, no idea why they skipped porting Utawarerumono series to Switch. Sold pretty well on Vita back in the day. I guess they wanted to focus on the mobile game instead. Well, would be cool to see a port of Monochrome Mobius on Switch 2.
 
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I've been thinking to myself.. Nintendo has conditioned their audience to not care about specs, technical details and such.. (and I'm very thankful for that, for the matter), very rarely they mention stuff like that and often avoid the terminology that can scare the wider public in their marketing; Even in situations like Skyward Sword HD, which was clearly updated to 60fps vs. 30fps from the Wii original, they didn't mention at all until the press had the chance to play it.

I don't think the improvements and the specs leap from Switch 1 to Switch 2 is a simple task to market for them, coming from that context. Sure, they can show some of the side by side comparisons, they have done that with New 3DS load times vs. older models... but I don't think resolution up to 4K, ray tracing and the like will be a thing in their advertisements. It's going to be a thing more when you analyze it further yourself.. They really will try to go for more tangible stuff that anyone can notice.
 
CyberWolfBia said:
I've been thinking to myself.. Nintendo has conditioned their audience to not care about specs, technical details and such.. (and I'm very thankful for that, for the matter), very rarely they mention stuff like that and often avoid the terminology that can scare the wider public in their marketing; Even in situations like Skyward Sword HD, which was clearly updated to 60fps vs. 30fps from the Wii original, they didn't mention at all until the press had the chance to play it.

I don't think the improvements and the specs leap from Switch 1 to Switch 2 is a simple task to market for them, coming from that context. Sure, they can show some of the side by side comparisons, they have done that with New 3DS load times vs. older models... but I don't think resolution up to 4K, ray tracing and the like will be a thing in their advertisements. It's going to be a thing more when you analyze it further yourself.. They really will try to go for more tangible stuff that anyone can notice.
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Sure, they will probably focus more on how new tech makes new and better gameplay possible on Switch 2, rather than just making the improved graphics the selling point like Sony usually does.
 
Promoting technical improvements from one product to another isn’t that hard. If Apple can get dozens of million of consumers to upgrade on a yearly basis in an era when smartphone evolution has peaked, Nintendo can certainly upsell a successor console to a nine year old machine
 
ziggyrivers said:
Promoting technical improvements from one product to another isn’t that hard. If Apple can get dozens of million of consumers to upgrade on a yearly basis in an era when smartphone evolution has peaked, Nintendo can certainly upsell a successor console to a nine year old machine
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I'm pretty sure Apple has done this ever since its debut with the older computers; way before the iPhone line.. their customers do care about specs and technical lingo for the most part. For Nintendo, is a very particular situation, but I do agree with @Danny above; they probably will show what the system can do for the games themselves, things they couldn't achieve before on the design level and not the surface stuff like performance and such.
 
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I see them advertising QoL features like faster loading and quick resume between multiple games (which I hope is a feature). 4K will be a bullet point on the box just like HD was - it's less about advertising 2160p resolutions and more about 'hey this works great on your new shiny TV'.
 
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