Kise Ryota
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posting and downloading roms online isn't preservation. accessibility sure but preservation is a far more rigorous and involved academic affair or at least it should be. someone actually preserving totk will not just want the rom but to play it on its original state, meticulously cataloging it and placing it within the greater context of the industry and society as well as interviewing those involved in it. and then there's the pesky upkeep of the materials you are preserving too which no one wants to think about. those are all things that people preserving art pieces for institutions do already. whatever the yuzu guys were doing wasn't it and the people pirating definitely aren't doing shit for preservation either.I am going to say something somewhat controversial on this forum, but preservation for current media by consumers tends to not really exist without there also being a demand for piracy. You really can't have one without the other.
I'm not here trying to tell you piracy is great or anything, but if you are pro preservation of modern media you have to grapple with the fact piracy is going to come along with that in some capacity. It's why I always get weirded out when people talk about "preservation" in a nebulous sense like it's purely academic. Historically in other media this is not the case, and fan preservation that is adjacent to piracy has always been part of it. I've said it before but I'll say it again, I wouldn't let pirates trying to morally shield themselves by invoking the term preservation really weigh too heavy on how I feel about this kinda thing.
I do generally agree Yuzu kinda stuck their whole ass out there and caused problems for everybody, don't get me wrong. I get why they did it, but it was clearly the wrong move to be so brazen and frankly stupid to go as far as they did. Just, I do kinda wanna put it there to untangle this specific line of thinking that there is a kind of nuance in the grey area between piracy and preservation.
Would love to play a pirated version of that in 4K on my PC.Hope that 2.4 million is used to release master mode in TOTK.
Anyone who plays TotK Master Mode before me gets permed, no exceptions.Would love to play a pirated version of that in 4K on my PC.
Mods: This was a joke.
I always lol at this. You think there is a better system that works. Tell me?Fuck capitalism.
Let’s not do this in this thread.I always lol at this. You think there is a better system that works. Tell me?
With Nintendo, at least from what I've seen, and I may be wrong, so someone please correct me if I am, it tends to be they target things that are replacements or alternatives to what they currently offer, which Nintendo also believes infringes on their IP.Likewise, fangames that directly utilize original game assets, such as ZeldaClassic, have been around for over 25 years.
Nintendo keeps their litigation hand strong, no doubt, but standing back, you get a bit more of a view of what and where they may "look the other way for".
I’m not a mod, just very aware of where that will lead.Edit: Mod spoke same time as me. Shutting up now.
"Yuzu's support of Citra" is what's being discontinued. Afaict the actual dev teams only ever overlapped on Bunnei (who might also have been doing some technical things wrt social media and blogs), meaning the project itself probably isn't dead.
Citra (3DS Emulator) is also going down.
A shame. Nintendo should have absolutely obliterated them.
I will not be taking any questions.
There's no better bootlicking than defending a multibillionaire company shutting down an entire project because they did an oopsie even though they didn't share pirated copies or firmware/keys nor did they promote people/websites that did."Everybody who disagrees with me is a corporate bootlicker"
You don't know the full scope of what Nintendo had on Yuzu already, or what would have been discovered during discovery. If they were helping to promote illegal stuff, even if it was unintentional, it's still a crime.There's no better bootlicking than defending a multibillionaire company shutting down an entire project because they did an oopsie even though they didn't share pirated copies or firmware/keys nor did they promote people/websites that did.
I don't really want to downplay the major efforts made by people who want to actively engage in the levels of preservation that need to happen to keep things preserved in as much historical context as possible. I do really understand what that is. Still, I think trying to untie what having pirated media in active circulation does for preservation and media access in general from an academic setting is kinda foolish. I understand the notion of some random person going on the internet and downloading an NES rom to throw on their smartphone and going "I'm a preservationist" is really dumb. That still doesn't divorce the fact that keeping media that is no longer sold or easily accessible in circulation has been an important part of media being preserved since forever. There are several examples of film, music, and TV that would be considered lost media today if not for pirated copies of said media having existed around the time of release. Games aren't any different really.posting and downloading roms online isn't preservation. accessibility sure but preservation is a far more rigorous and involved academic affair or at least it should be. someone actually preserving totk will not just want the rom but to play it on its original state, meticulously cataloging it and placing it within the greater context of the industry and society as well as interviewing those involved in it. and then there's the pesky upkeep of the materials you are preserving too which no one wants to think about. those are all things that people preserving art pieces for institutions do already. whatever the yuzu guys were doing wasn't it and the people pirating definitely aren't doing shit for preservation either.
I'd rather be a bootlicker than a thief.
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I don't think overtly moralistic statements like this are really helpfulI'd rather be a bootlicker than a thief.
lolI'd rather be a bootlicker than a thief.
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The OP was vague, so I won't claim what they were thinking. But if this project was potentially endangering the already fine line emulation stands on, then yeah it's fine to criticize them.There's no better bootlicking than defending a multibillionaire company shutting down an entire project because they did an oopsie even though they didn't share pirated copies or firmware/keys nor did they promote people/websites that did.
Can't say I agree thereI'd rather be a bootlicker than a thief.
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What, by taking over the northern kremisphere? You're not fooling anyone K. Roolenstein.Chump change for Nintendo. I would make better use of that 2.4 million.
beat me to this jokeWell folks it’s OK that Citra is gone. I’ll just legally purchase all of my 3DS Software from the Nintendo 3DS eSho—
Banned for what? You know damn well that 99% of people using emulators are not using "the original files from the game they own." Just calling a spade a spade.lol
you should be banned, but whatever
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you should be banned, but whatever
With my wife's best pots and pans to bootWhat, by taking over the northern kremisphere? You're not fooling anyone K. Roolenstein.
Banned for what? You know damn well that 99% of people using emulators are not using "the original files from the game they own." Just calling a spade a spade.
I'm sorry, what? They have a made a large number of their first party catalog available on their current platform by either NSO or remakes, so I disagree. Could they do better? Sure, but I wouldn't say they "hate" letting people play their older games given the current NSO offerings.Damn straight.
So let's fuck preservation of games forever because Nintendo hates letting people play older Nintendo games.