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I doubt that will stop people, they'll just lament that it's weaker than consoles from 2020, that the latest Xenoblade doesn't look as good than the latest first party PS5 blockbuster, and that the specs are holding back whatever the next big EAD game is, and we'll be back where we started.With the chip shortage and cross multiplaform support for last gen lasting way longer than expected, it could take a while before we get a pro console for Sony and MS. Maybe not at all. Not to mention inflation and Sony increasing PS5 price.
Also, the pro consoles will likely just focus on 4k resolution while games will still be focused the base ones. Would be pretty expensive too with the chip shortage.
Sure, devs will keep pushing consoles to limit, but Its going to be different this time for 1st party games at least. The PS4 is and always has been a 1080p machine, and Drake will likely follow in a similar fashion. We also have DLSS as well.I doubt that will stop people, they'll just lament that it's weaker than consoles from 2020, that the latest Xenoblade doesn't look as good than the latest first party PS5 blockbuster, and that the specs are holding back whatever the next big EAD game is, and we'll be back where we started.
Logically yes, the reality of hardware means its silly to hold a hybrid device to the standard of dedicated home consoles, but that never stopped people before.Sure, devs will keep pushing consoles to limit, but Its going to be different this time for 1st party games at least. The PS4 is and always has been a 1080p machine, and Drake will likely follow in a similar fashion. We also have DLSS as well.
And Nintendo consoles will always be weaker. There isn't much changing that.
how will we be back where we started when nintendo will have more horsepower to play withI doubt that will stop people, they'll just lament that it's weaker than consoles from 2020, that the latest Xenoblade doesn't look as good than the latest first party PS5 blockbuster, and that the specs are holding back whatever the next big EAD game is, and we'll be back where we started.
Especially now that we are reaching diminishing returns. I've yet to see a PS5 game that would be fully impossible to make run in a PS4 pro. The jump is not that obvious for now and PS4 level games are good enough. Nintendo's knowledge of their own tech and good artistic direction has given us some amazing looking games in the Switch (BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Astral Chain, Luigi's Mansion 3, Animal Crossing, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Splatoon 3).how will we be back where we started when nintendo will have more horsepower to play with
exactly, nintendo is already getting a ton of bang for their buck, as it were, and the rumored boost could have huge impact to "ooooh pretty" even if it's still miles behindEspecially now that we are reaching diminishing returns. I've yet to see a PS5 game that would be fully impossible to make run in a PS4 pro. The jump is not that obvious for now and PS4 level games are good enough. Nintendo's knowledge of their own tech and good artistic direction has given us some amazing looking games in the Switch (BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Astral Chain, Luigi's Mansion 3, Animal Crossing, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Splatoon 3).
yeah, there will be a lot of cases where people are disappointed by what's done with the hardware, but very few hardware enthusiasts will demand better, because better pretty much won't exist for a while.Yeah, I don't really buy the argument that people will ask for even better hardware once the Pro/2/Drake is out. I take more umbrage with the way new hardware is treated as a silver bullet that will suddenly solve all performance issues when it's much more nuanced than that. It's definitely going to be interesting to see when the new system is out and what devs do with it.
I was listening yesterday Nate's podcast on the Switch 4K (the one from october 2021) and he says that according to the people he's talked to, devs were very excited about the new tech.Yeah, I don't really buy the argument that people will ask for even better hardware once the Pro/2/Drake is out. I take more umbrage with the way new hardware is treated as a silver bullet that will suddenly solve all performance issues when it's much more nuanced than that. It's definitely going to be interesting to see when the new system is out and what devs do with it.
We aren’t getting Pro consoles this time around. Sony and MS are losing a decent chunk of change on the current boxes as it is. Hell Sony rose the price cause of costs. Phil was basically yeah we we losing like a hundo on each box sold (I still maintain the Series S is a steal for only $300 in the current price climate).I guarantee that within 12 months of Drake releasing, many will already be saying it's falling too far behind the PS5 Pro and Xbox Series Z and that Nintendo needs to make stronger hardware, and that it's specs are holding back whatever the next big first party games will be.
The pokemon issue is a dev issue due to memory leaks and rendering the whole world at once with no cullingI'm not gonna blame the Switch for how these Pokemon games look. I'm pretty sure they're just like that
Graphics aren't a big deal to me, but I really do want a new Switch to be announced because it puts us one step closer to new 3D Mario, Mario Kart, and Smash
do we know this or are people assuming?The pokemon issue is a dev issue due to memory leaks and rendering the whole world at once with no culling
Don't get me wrong, it'll be super cool to see what Nintendo and friends can do with more powerful hardware.how will we be back where we started when nintendo will have more horsepower to play with
You are correct that people complained about Switch power not long after launch. But you have to understand that as a home console, Switch wasn't much of a leap beyond Wii U.Don't get me wrong, it'll be super cool to see what Nintendo and friends can do with more powerful hardware.
I meant more that the internet discourse on the subject will probably still be unrelentingly, exhaustingly negative, as it has been for ages now. Last time, people didn't even wait until 2017 was over before proclaiming that Xenoblade 2 and the Doom 2016 port proved Switch was trash and needed a Pro ASAP.
I guess it's just been wearing on me recently, the constant negativity.
I doubt that. as soon as someone ports a current gen only game to Drake, it's gonna start up all over againI think you'll see a far different reaction to what you expect.
It doesn't really matter anyways, I don't want a Switch successor to make console warriors on twitter or wherever happy, they'll obviously complain when it's out and I'll continue to just not read that discourse. I want a Switch successor because (by my standards) a lot of the Switch games for a while now have either ran like shit or looked ugly and compromised, and judging from the rough specs we know the succ will have it'll improve on that in a huge way and I'll be content.I doubt that. as soon as someone ports a current gen only game to Drake, it's gonna start up all over again
Well said. I dont want a better switch because thats where ill play all my multiplats, i want one because i want to see nintendo games not being held back by very old hardwareIt doesn't really matter anyways, I don't want a Switch successor to make console warriors on twitter or wherever happy, they'll obviously complain when it's out and I'll continue to just not read that discourse. I want a Switch successor because (by my standards) a lot of the Switch games for a while now have either ran like shit or looked ugly and compromised, and judging from the rough specs we know the succ will have it'll improve on that in a huge way and I'll be content.
I don't care that the PS5 is still stronger and that people will point that out, it doesn't matter.
launchWhen did you get your Switch?
Someone had done tests that to the best of their knowledge those things are occurring and would explain the dismal performance. And why the bugs get worse in multiplayerdo we know this or are people assuming?