I've been saying this, it literally cannot be an epilogue, it could however contain some post epilogue stuff in cutscenes at the end but I honestly don't think an epilogue in necessary considering how the game ended. I'd much prefer them flesh out early Aionios lore and concepts, also gives us a good opportunity to see the 1 and 2 cast with Shulk and Rex meeting.
Torna changed up the battle system by limiting customization, but reworking several of the core mechanics and adding new ones. Having the Xenoblade 3 DLC remove the class system, but lean into the Keves vs Agnus differences more seems like a reasonable equivalent. At the very least, I feel very confident the full class system will not survive the reduction in scope.
That's about what I was expecting. Similar to Torna simplying the blade system and FC getting rid of skill trees and skill links, there would be a reduction in the amount of customization for this new story. Maybe only two pairs share arts with each other.
Yeah, I guess that's a fair point. If it's founders, it would probably be Noah and Mio's descendants, but they'll probably still mechanically be Noah and Mio (unless they really want to lean in on the Fei Fong Wong resemblance).
No, Aionios was created after Z gets Melia's access to the inner workings of Origin. What happened during Origin's initialization is similar to turning on a computer and having it freeze while it's booting.
I disagree here, the Origin we see in Aionios is the systems database; this is why Z made it his base.
There is nothing deceptive about it since figurative language is a common literary staple. When Nia and Z bring up that Z "stopped time" it's clear to me that they don't mean it literally since time is still moving within Aionios which is the only currently existing world. In Nia's case she's saying it like that so it'll be easier for Noah & co. to understand how Z is responsible for the state of the world. Meanwhile in Zs case it's obvious that he is a theatrical being judging by the theater where he watches the worlds events and the company he keeps. It's no surprise to me that he would play up his actions in Aionios as a figurative freezing of time. There is no time stoppage in the game, the opening scene is the universe ending while the closing scene is Origin restarting from that point and the worlds moving on from within Origin.
No, what I mean is that once Z has Melia's key he forces an interlink between the recreated worlds within Origin. In doing so he created Moebius A, otherwise known as Aionios, which is why we don't meet a Consul A in story.
Yes, Melia and Nia planned to have Origin start up right when both universes ended so that life would potentially continue from that point on within Origin. I say potentially because they'd have no idea whether or not Origin worked since they would cease to be along with their original universes. Fortunately once Z was taken care of Origin was allowed to reboot and worked as intended which is why we go back to Noah's youth at the end.
No, I meant "Klaus" because the whole mainline Xenoblade series started because he messed around with the original Conduit. Eventually another being will mess around with Origin, which is a new Conduit, and start the cycle all over again.
Yea, the two mentors are who people are talking about being Shulk and Rex references. Rex looking more like Malos especially with the hairstyle matches how he looks in the infamous family photo. And the other mentor is identical to Klaus which is what you would assume an older Shulk to look like. Combined with their weapons and personality descriptions make it seem like the references are intentional.
I have no problem with the photo, kinda ridiculous anyone would flip out over something that's seen for less than 3 seconds. I'm not a fan of Harems but this is the only time I really don't have a problem with it.
I'm still not sure which one of the founders is Shulk, the Kevesi soldier looks 100% like Shulk but the description of the one with a cape and metal arm also fits him.
Shulk and Rex would likely play a very prominent role, which would balance out the party with 4 of each. Same as the current setup when counting Riku and Manana.
Zeke's eye is actually ok lol
Oh, you're right! Wasn't it they could only afford one contact lens or something goofy like that? I guess that throws my theory out the window lol
I think Eunie’s hair color might imply that she has more “Homs” in her genetics than other half High Entia and while she might age slower, she actually might be aging (or maturing I guess) at a rate closer to Homs.
By the way, during her quest, Melia do tell Eunie that they are « exactly the same », a bit like how Nia tries to tell Mio that she is her mother (if so, then Rex is the father). So… is Eunie a half-Entia too ?
Personally, that’s the aspect about the Founders that has me the most excited. Seeing how Rex and Shulk develop within Aionios is a fascinating way to approach their characters. Seeing which of their core ideals carry over to this new world and which were ultimately shaped by their previous homes would honestly be the best hook possible for the DLC for me.
I do kind of love how we are at opposite ends of the spectrum for nearly everything when we discuss this game. lol
Not even a universal divide can stop Rex from putting it about!
It's the universes of 1 and 2 trying to merge from my understanding, it's why it causes an annihilation event in chapter 4 due to P and O overheating while interlinking (with interlinking only possible with people from worlds of 1 and 2).
The fog king, in isolation, definitely has all the hallmarks of being a gnosis, and I do think you could still read the Addam shades that way, but the party appearing foggy appears to have been a red herring that was purely the consuls messing with perception and nothing more.
By dissipation happening. you mean how the fog/annihilation events keep going on, right? Like the effects of the universes colliding continue to cause destructive events for the 1000+ years that Aionious was going on. I also thought it was strange Moebius weren't overly bothered by it but assumed it was probably beyond Z's power to do anything about it. It feels like Z's endless now was never built to truly last and he had to know that. The annihilation events continued, entropy continues, and he was releasing a small stock of their food supply over the decades through homecomings.
Yeah, the annihilation events basically run fully counter to Moebius' goals of preserving the endless now, but this goes strangely unremarked upon. It's clear that the two worlds are managing to slowly annihilate each other despite their best efforts, and ultimately they're just delaying the inevitable. You'd think that at least the party (especially Taion who seems to have worked out this is a distinct possibility based on one of the optional discussions) would have pointed this out in their refutation of Moebius. I have to wonder if the fog was a bigger deal in an earlier draft of the story, but ended up getting edited down to a plot device for hiding and/or wrecking things as the plot required.
I thought N's comment that homecoming was the end of the reincarnation cycle was just to mess with Noah and bring him (and the rest of the party) to despair before executing them. I agree that the Consuls probably weren't too bothered by the annihilation events since they are a bunch of hedonists and Aionios is still a pretty big playground despite portions of it vaporizing every so often.
No, it's explicitly stated by other characters, most damningly by Z himself
There's still a lot of weirdness about the black fog beyond annihilation events. You could probably salvage old theories from these if you really wanted to:
This got me big time, I was instantly in "it's happening" mode.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what happens at the end is that the 2 universes simply phase through each other instead of destroying each other, just like Noah assumed it was possible when he asked Z how he could be so sure destruction was inevitable without any concrete proof?
EDIT: glad I wasn't the only who didn't give 2 shits about J when Nia was right there lol. Sorry kid, I barely spent 30 minutes with you while I spent 60 hours with Nia in XC2.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what happens at the end is that the 2 universes simply phase through each other instead of destroying each other, just like Noah assumed it was possible when he asked Z how he could be so sure destruction was inevitable without any concrete proof?
EDIT: glad I wasn't the only who didn't give 2 shits about J when Nia was right there lol. Sorry kid, I barely spent 30 minutes with you while I spent 60 hours with Nia in XC2.
