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Basically no matter hard I work, I don't think I will go up the corporate ladder.Well . . . . . . Let's hear it!!
Ummm . . . . what's "quiet fired"?
Basically no matter hard I work, I don't think I will go up the corporate ladder.
What the hell are you talking about?Folks, you might want to check the title of this thread.
What the hell are you talking about?
I am thinking more of looking for a new job to be honest. I hope to (hook it back to the topic) find a work coop.If you think you have been quiet fired (Which is a very old practice, but just recently the society has been able to start putting the finger on it ) then you should either escalate with management of the person you suspect is doing this to you, request to leave the area/team or maybe look for another opportunity outside of your current organization.
Sadly, this is a thing and must be highlighted.
I hear you.I am thinking more of looking for a new job to be honest. I hope to (hook it back to the topic) find a work coop.
Or justify things that shouldn't be justified.I have a lot to say on this topic, so much, but ultimately, to keep my post (relatively) succinct, I will say this, capitalism (especially the unfettered capitalism that 'Murrica is all on board for) is hellish.
Like, can you take a second to imagine going back to our ancient ancestors in the antiquity, and explaining to them - hey, in the future, your distant descendants are going to live long lives (literally 3-4x longer than yours), have great healthcare capable of countering most terrible diseases of the time, have the ability to control the climate within buildings, have the ability to access all of humankind's collective works and knowledge in a palm sized device at any time of the day, have entire forms and modes of entertainment not even conceivable to these people, have the ability to travel! To see the entire world, with a planetwide trip being a matter of hours, not days or weeks or months or years!
We have all this, and we spend very literally over 70% of our lives locking ourselves away with strangers all in pursuit of making numbers representing fucking astractions most of which we don't even have claim to, go up without really benefitting from most of those numbers going up, giving up the best years of our life when we could be traveling or having orgies or finding new ways to get high or drunk or just enjoying existing... and instead getting caught in a relentless never ending rat race just so we can justify our right to, like, exist - you know, be able to have food, or water, or clothing, or shelter, or medication, all literally the most basic things and necessities of life, but we have to earn our right to those, all while engaging in a never ending rat race that we are not beneficiaries of, and never actually getting to enjoy our lives.
They would be fucking appalled. I am appalled. What the fuck happened here? How are we as a society so broken that we have to justify our right to exist?
I have a friend who's an accountant and this is almost exactly how they describe money itself.We have all this, and we spend very literally over 70% of our lives locking ourselves away with strangers all in pursuit of making numbers representing fucking astractions most of which we don't even have claim to, go up without really benefitting from most of those numbers going up
It looks like you started something here!I have a lot to say on this topic, so much, but ultimately, to keep my post (relatively) succinct, I will say this, capitalism (especially the unfettered capitalism that 'Murrica is all on board for) is hellish.
Like, can you take a second to imagine going back to our ancient ancestors in the antiquity, and explaining to them - hey, in the future, your distant descendants are going to live long lives (literally 3-4x longer than yours), have great healthcare capable of countering most terrible diseases of the time, have the ability to control the climate within buildings, have the ability to access all of humankind's collective works and knowledge in a palm sized device at any time of the day, have entire forms and modes of entertainment not even conceivable to these people, have the ability to travel! To see the entire world, with a planetwide trip being a matter of hours, not days or weeks or months or years!
We have all this, and we spend very literally over 70% of our lives locking ourselves away with strangers all in pursuit of making numbers representing fucking astractions most of which we don't even have claim to, go up without really benefitting from most of those numbers going up, giving up the best years of our life when we could be traveling or having orgies or finding new ways to get high or drunk or just enjoying existing... and instead getting caught in a relentless never ending rat race just so we can justify our right to, like, exist - you know, be able to have food, or water, or clothing, or shelter, or medication, all literally the most basic things and necessities of life, but we have to earn our right to those, all while engaging in a never ending rat race that we are not beneficiaries of, and never actually getting to enjoy our lives.
They would be fucking appalled. I am appalled. What the fuck happened here? How are we as a society so broken that we have to justify our right to exist?
As they say, “I feel you.” This is called “alienation” in Marxian language. We feel no stake in our work. We go through the motions. How did it happen? How did it get this bad?…...
They would be fucking appalled. I am appalled. What the fuck happened here? How are we as a society so broken that we have to justify our right to exist?
Couldn't wait, huh?
I think, while there are not too many explicitly socialism-themed games, I can see how there's no small amount of them which are decidedly anti-capitalist and discuss the end of empire.
As an example, Final Fantasy VII is a tale about the end of empire and how it facilitated its end by harbouring fascism, and that's just the first half of the game.
You may want to read a couple of posts down from the one you quoted.Guess we played different games.The climate commentary I get. The anti nuclear commentary I get.
For me, marxism is as extremist as authoritarianism, and generally winds up as authoritarianism (with extra red sauce). The iTsNeVeRbEeNdOnERiGhT perspective is such a meme. Anti-competion, anti-growth, anti-freedom, especially regarding the freedom of expression, highly controlling. I loves my democratic republic. I find americans have such a hilarious perspective of what makes something marxist. Are libraries 'marxism'? No, they're just good for society and something that can be afforded. South Korea has universal healthcare, is that a 'marxist' country? I hope everyone understands why that's such a funny question. History aside, it's a country that has absolutely thrived on the free market. The free market has its issues of course.
I'm learning about the Stazi at the moment. Insanity. Never again.
This post made me realize I actually mistyped and meant FFVI in my earlier post. Hehehe, oops?
South Korea [...] it's a country that has absolutely thrived on the free market.
"Anti-competition"Guess we played different games.The climate commentary I get. The anti nuclear commentary I get.
For me, marxism is as extremist as authoritarianism, and generally winds up as authoritarianism (with extra red sauce). The iTsNeVeRbEeNdOnERiGhT perspective is such a meme. Anti-competion, anti-growth, anti-freedom, especially regarding the freedom of expression, highly controlling. I loves my democratic republic. I find americans have such a hilarious perspective of what makes something marxist. Are libraries 'marxism'? No, they're just good for society and something that can be afforded. South Korea has universal healthcare, is that a 'marxist' country? I hope everyone understands why that's such a funny question. History aside, it's a country that has absolutely thrived on the free market. The free market has its issues of course.
I'm learning about the Stazi at the moment. Insanity. Never again.
If two people want to move to the same place, how do you solve it if not by price?Or justify things that shouldn't be justified.
Like, in the old times, you lived a place and that was your spot.
Now you have to pay rent and have a title to the land and everything.
You had to literally justify where you were.
If two people want to move to the same place, how do you solve it if not by price?
Do you think your posting style makes you look mature and worth speaking with?"Anti-competition"
??? Are you like, an alien who has no interaction with modern society? What about capitalist America suggests to you that competitors won't be crushed by any means necessary? What suggests that the richest in the world don't lobby to keep a stronghold on the industry?
"Anti-freedom"
Did you notice how America has the greatest percentage of non-free people in the world? Did you notice that, of those free, many are paycheck to paycheck, forced to work at jobs where their rights are eroded over time, losing money hand over fist while corporations profit during the worst times we face? Did you notice that housing prices are increasing, mobility is worsening, and our right to vote, protest, and strike have been progressively weakened over time? You talk about freedom of expression, but how many politicians want to make it illegal to boycott a foreign country's product? In what country was it that a reporter was arrested for covering a horrible chemical explosion in a small village?
"Anti-growth"
What growth? People aren't growing richer, people aren't growing happier, people aren't growing smarter, people aren't growing healthier. The only thing that grows in capitalist America are the wallets of the richest few, who are also complicit in keeping people underpaid, unfulfilled, and unhealthy.
God you're silly, you're just making up qualities to apply to capitalism that are the literally the opposite of how it is. Just deciding that if the person with the boot on your neck tells you how free you are, then it must be so. You pretend like Cuba DOESN'T have a higher expected lifespan for its residents than America, or better access to healthcare. And you pretend like South Korea is thriving under a free market??
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I used the US as the example because the US is, indisputably, the greatest arm of capitalism, one that enforces capitalism using violence.Do you think your posting style makes you look mature and worth speaking with?
America is not the world, for a start. Also, competition can take any form. It can be two food trucks.
And I'm not sure Cuba is a metric for human civilisation in any way whatsoever. You could always move there I guess. Plenty of room, people constantly trying to get out of it, isn't that a large % of Miami's population? I've seen news reports recently of Cuban asylum seekers turning up as far as Greece. Why would they want to leave if it's so amazing?
South Korea, and having lived there for years I can tell you, is probably one of the centres of the world, makes or designs a large amount of the world's hardware, and absolutely leans right in to the free market. Samsung? LG? Hyundai? Ever heard of them? Those are just the chaebols. The amount of small businesses, phone shops, restaurants, cute plastic tat to hang off your bag stores, is ridiculous. Maybe try leaving the US before posting your embarassing animu gifs.
Europe and Asia loves them some free market too. Billions move around every day.I used the US as the example because the US is, indisputably, the greatest arm of capitalism
Show your work on that one, if you wouldn't mind.one that enforces capitalism using violence.
Being alive longer is no good if your quality of life is so poor you risk your life to flee.That said, it's REALLY funny to say "no you should just ignore the good things about Cuba
No, but I don't see what that has to do with anything, we are on the same page when it comes to the dangers of Marxism.Also, out of curiosity, are you a native South Korean?
The US is frequently involved in coups, often to overthrow communist governments with governments amenable to their interests. We're still doing it even. As far as "well actually it's good to die young as long as you have a large-screen TVEurope and Asia loves them some free market too. Billions move around every day.
Show your work on that one, if you wouldn't mind.
Being alive longer is no good if your quality of life is so poor you risk your life to flee.
No, but I don't see what that has to do with anything, we are on the same page when it comes to the dangers of Marxism.
Gonna give this a manual yeag.The US is frequently involved in coups, often to overthrow communist governments with governments amenable to their interests. We're still doing it even. As far as "well actually it's good to die young as long as you have a large-screen TV" goes, that's, uh, an interesting defense of people dying younger because healthcare is getting worse AND more expensive at the same time.
And the reason why it matters is that someone who can afford to move to and from South Korea lacks perspective because you obviously have the finances to not be affected by the crushing nature of the 'free market'.
To ensure marxism take hold, but how do they benefit the free market within their own country with violence? You said they're the poster child for it.The US is frequently involved in coups
It was for work, flights were paid for, accommodation was provided, I've been broke as shit my whole life (except the years in SK curiously, maybe something to do with all of the commerce ocurring), womp womp.And the reason why it matters is that someone who can afford to move to and from South Korea lacks perspective because you obviously have the finances to not be affected by the crushing nature of the 'free market'.
To ensure marxism take hold, but how do they benefit the free market within their own country with violence? You said they're the poster child for it.
It was for work, flights were paid for, accommodation was provided, I've been broke as shit my whole life (except the years in SK curiously, maybe something to do with all of the commerce ocurring), womp womp.
You didn't have to pay rent while you were there!?To ensure marxism take hold, but how do they benefit the free market within their own country with violence? You said they're the poster child for it.
It was for work, flights were paid for, accommodation was provided, I've been broke as shit my whole life (except the years in SK curiously, maybe something to do with all of the commerce ocurring), womp womp.
I'm homeless right now chief. I went there because I needed a job, wanted to see the world.Oh, so you didn't go there because you had a lot of money, you went there because you didn't run the risk of being exploited and made homeless
Yes. Because homelessness is in fact hella low in South Korea. Because goshiwons exist (which is even more commerce). You know nothing of the place, I know quite a lot, but you claim I'm the one lacking perspective.Do you lack so much perspective as to think that working there with guaranteed accommodations gives you perspective on what it's like to be South Korean lmao
Nope. Part of the package. A great opportunity for all that have a degree IMO. Wonderful country. You can do a quick online TEFL, and with that and your degree which is required for your visa, you'd be good to go. I could hardly spend my monthly earnings, even when buying some gadget or another every month. And that was with eating out three times a week, which was dirt cheap because there's so many options. I'd recommend it to anyoneYou didn't have to pay rent while you were there!?
I'm begging you to consider how this might give you a skewed view on South Korean culture.Nope. Part of the package. A great opportunity for all that have a degree IMO. Wonderful country. You can do a quick online TEFL, and with that and your degree which is required for your visa, you'd be good to go. I could hardly spend my monthly earnings, even when buying some gadget or another every month. And that was with eating out three times a week, which was dirt cheap because there's so many options. I'd recommend it to anyone![]()
I'm begging you to consider how this might give you a skewed view on South Korean culture.
I don't know, this sounds pretty sweetYou don't understand, free housing in SK is the perfect vantage point to understand the fact that depression rates among the elderly are skyrocketing due to rising poverty!
you sound like me 25 years ago, only not as smart. and i was an idiot.Do you think your posting style makes you look mature and worth speaking with?
America is not the world, for a start. Also, competition can take any form. It can be two food trucks.
And I'm not sure Cuba is a metric for human civilisation in any way whatsoever. You could always move there I guess. Plenty of room, people constantly trying to get out of it, isn't that a large % of Miami's population? I've seen news reports recently of Cuban asylum seekers turning up as far as Greece. Why would they want to leave if it's so amazing?
South Korea, and having lived there for years I can tell you, is probably one of the centres of the world, makes or designs a large amount of the world's hardware, and absolutely leans right in to the free market. Samsung? LG? Hyundai? Ever heard of them? Those are just the chaebols. The amount of small businesses, phone shops, restaurants, cute plastic tat to hang off your bag stores, is ridiculous. Maybe try leaving the US before posting your embarassing animu gifs.
Excellent reply actually, manual 'Yeah!'you sound like me 25 years ago, only not as smart. and i was an idiot.
edit: sorry, this is not really adding anything to the conversation. i would have put together a more thoughtful response, but honestly i don't see a point here. you are sending out the worst possible signals here: tedious, shrill and combative. like, i could engage, but where's the benefit? waste of time.
In what way? I lived in it. With the people. Saw hundreds every day. All well dressed, well fed, with more food choice than you can imagine, staring at very expensive devices. A few miles to the North? The baby or granparent that doesn't survive the winter goes in the stew. That happens. That's how stark the difference is.I'm begging you to consider how this might give you a skewed view on South Korean culture.
What has that to do with the free market? That's a declining birth rate affecting pensions. You intend to establish a Handmaid's Tale style marxist state or something?You don't understand, free housing in SK is the perfect vantage point to understand the fact that depression rates among the elderly are skyrocketing due to rising poverty!
I like how people who stan for marxism are so mask off nasty. Imma keep it civil though if you don't mind. Don't like letting myself down.you sound like me 25 years ago, only not as smart. and i was an idiot.
Tedious, shrill, and combative? I merely offer examples I've experienced. Perhaps you're projecting, considering you accused me of being combative, while suggesting I'm an idiot, in the very same post.edit: sorry, this is not really adding anything to the conversation. i would have put together a more thoughtful response, but honestly i don't see a point here. you are sending out the worst possible signals here: tedious, shrill and combative. like, i could engage, but where's the benefit? waste of time.
In what way? I lived in it. With the people. Saw hundreds every day. All well dressed, well fed, with more food choice than you can imagine, staring at very expensive devices. A few miles to the North? The baby or granparent that doesn't survive the winter goes in the stew. That happens. That's how stark the difference is.
What has that to do with the free market? That's a declining birth rate affecting pensions. You intend to establish a Handmaid's Tale style marxist state or something?
I like how people who stan for marxism are so mask off nasty. Imma keep it civil though if you don't mind. Don't like letting myself down.
Tedious, shrill, and combative? I merely offer examples I've experienced. Perhaps you're projecting, considering you accused me of being combative, while suggesting I'm an idiot, in the very same post.
I think you should look up what marxism is before talking about it or else you just sound like CIA propagandaGuess we played different games.The climate commentary I get. The anti nuclear commentary I get.
For me, marxism is as extremist as authoritarianism, and generally winds up as authoritarianism (with extra red sauce). The iTsNeVeRbEeNdOnERiGhT perspective is such a meme. Anti-competion, anti-growth, anti-freedom, especially regarding the freedom of expression, highly controlling. I loves my democratic republic. I find americans have such a hilarious perspective of what makes something marxist. Are libraries 'marxism'? No, they're just good for society and something that can be afforded. South Korea has universal healthcare, is that a 'marxist' country? I hope everyone understands why that's such a funny question. History aside, it's a country that has absolutely thrived on the free market. The free market has its issues of course.
I'm learning about the Stazi at the moment. Insanity. Never again.
I think you should look up what marxism is before talking about it or else you just sound like CIA propaganda
More insults with no rebuttals.
I think you should look up what marxism is before talking about it or else you just sound like CIA propaganda
Please define MarxismI am very familiar, thank you. And again, I'm not a yank, so not sure why I'd be giving la cia any attention.
Some incredible juxtapositionIn what way? I lived in it. With the people. Saw hundreds every day. All well dressed, well fed, with more food choice than you can imagine, staring at very expensive devices. A few miles to the North? The baby or granparent that doesn't survive the winter goes in the stew. That happens. That's how stark the difference is.
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I like how people who stan for marxism are so mask off nasty. Imma keep it civil though if you don't mind. Don't like letting myself down.
a chuck yeager moveGonna give this a manual yeag.
I always forget that the funny beeg yoshi guy is basedI think you should look up what marxism is before talking about it or else you just sound like CIA propaganda