Depends on the size of the team and how much the development of Metroid Prime 4 impacted it. We won't know for sure for a while.I think Emily had stated it started devolpment in 2018 and ended in summer of 2021. Im not sure if that is long for a remaster or a normal devolpment time.
And we have to remember it was being developed through Covid.I think Emily had stated it started devolpment in 2018 and ended in summer of 2021. Im not sure if that is long for a remaster or a normal devolpment time.
I'm sure there will be plenty of time to release both of them before 4 is finishedI would much rather just have a simple remaster of all 3 Prime games than anything else.
It's dumb to remake just 1 and then expect fans who haven't played the games before to go from 1 straight to 4.
To be honest they wouldn't really need to do either.I would much rather just have a simple remaster of all 3 Prime games than anything else.
It's dumb to remake just 1 and then expect fans who haven't played the games before to go from 1 straight to 4.
Yeah, this would basically be the case for any series on a console that doesn't have backwards compatibility. Especially when dealing with long running franchises, you hardly ever have the full series on the console in anticipation of the next release.To be honest they wouldn't really need to do either.
They didn't port all the games over to Switch for Dread aswell.
Arguably Metroid Fusion is the most important for Dreads Story but it's one of the two games in the main series you can't play on Switch.
And even then I would only really play Super Metroid on there because the remakes of the other games are superior.
While I would love for all of the Prime games to be on Switch, I would rather have a very polished remake of 1, cause that probably might aswell be a new game.
And it's not like the Story is that deep.
New players probably won't be lost just playing 4.
Does that mean it'll come with its own original epilogue starring Sylux called "Bounty Collected", too, or nah?The insiders said it’s a remaster. Nate said it’s more akin to Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition
I would argue the thing that aged the worst is the controls, but looking at Skward Sword I think Nintendo will take the time to have normal standart twin stick controls in their aswell.I've never played any of the Prime games so it will be an insta-buy for me whatever the case, but afaik these games aged pretty well, didn't they. A remaster would be more than enough
I would much rather just have a simple remaster of all 3 Prime games than anything else.
It's dumb to remake just 1 and then expect fans who haven't played the games before to go from 1 straight to 4.
Thank you for explaining this, it will be interesting to see how Nintendo decides to release prime 1 and 2 and 3 if those do come at some point too.Back in 2018, Retro Studios' original plan was to develop and release the entire Metroid Prime Trilogy, in sequential order. That might help explain why it went through a longer-than-normal development cycle. But I don't know if those plans changed once Retro took over development of Prime 4.
What I know: An HD Switch version of Metroid Prime 1 definitely exists. It's floating around at Nintendo of America/Europe. I am only able to confirm Prime 1, but I won't rule out the possibility of the entire trilogy.
What I don't know: I have no clue what Nintendo's plans are for Metroid Prime 2 and 3.
- NateDrake (NateTheHate) says his source found remasters of Prime 2 and Prime 3 sitting on a dev kit at Nintendo.
Hmmm. If they're sitting on a dev kit, that means they're currently in production, correct? Or maybe they're internal prototypes?Back in 2018, Retro Studios' original plan was to develop and release the entire Metroid Prime Trilogy, in sequential order. That might help explain why it went through a longer-than-normal development cycle. But I don't know if those plans changed once Retro took over development of Prime 4.
What I know: An HD Switch version of Metroid Prime 1 definitely exists. It's floating around at Nintendo of America/Europe. I am only able to confirm Prime 1, but I won't rule out the possibility of the entire trilogy.
What I don't know: I have no clue what Nintendo's plans are for Metroid Prime 2 and 3.
- NateDrake (NateTheHate) says his source found remasters of Prime 2 and Prime 3 sitting on a dev kit at Nintendo.
I think that's probably the best thing to hope for. It's a significant visual improvement for already good looking games that doesn't require so much work as to not be able to get the other 2 out in a timely manner, and that means they can put Prime 4 out relatively soon with the complete story available to newcomers ahead of time. And as someone who's favorite is Echoes, I'd very much like to get all 3. DE treatment with a remastered soundtrack or other such bonus would be plenty to make me bite again.Insiders were saying remaster, right? Kinda expecting Xeno DE treatment at most.
Have you ever heard of any other games in the past that Nintendo called “Remaster” internally? That might give us an idea.It's literally called Remaster internally.
Perhaps Nintendo is liberal with the definition of Remaster & conservative with the term Remake.
Unsure about internally.Have you ever heard of any other games in the past that Nintendo called “Remaster” internally? That might give us an idea.
Even if it was remade would it even sell more than a upgraded remaster? Wouldn't it just cost Nintendo more unnecessary money. given that the orginal version looks pretty good still a remaster will probably look pretty modern. Unless it's just an hd port which could technically be called a remaster...Unsure about internally.
XBC DE is the best barometer to use as a gauge, I think. Officially, Nintendo called XBC a Remaster, while others argued it's remake.
If Nintendo calls Prime something like Metroid Prime Definitive Edition and it's visually enhanced... does it matter whether it's a Remake or a Remaster?
I don’t really care. I think for some they want Nintendo to go all out and do a full remake, especially if they have to pay for $60. But yeah idc because I’m going to buy it.Unsure about internally.
XBC DE is the best barometer to use as a gauge, I think. Officially, Nintendo called XBC a Remaster, while others argued it's remake.
If Nintendo calls Prime something like Metroid Prime Definitive Edition and it's visually enhanced... does it matter whether it's a Remake or a Remaster?
I don't think it's about how much it would sell above the original, it's about the pedigree and starting the push of MP4. Release a bare HD res up game, and that could hurt your new sequel.Even if it was remade would it even sell more than a upgraded remaster? Wouldn't it just cost Nintendo more unnecessary money. given that the orginal version looks pretty good still a remaster will probably look pretty modern. Unless it's just an hd port which could technically be called a remaster...
I don’t agree with this. A Metroid Prime Remaster or Remake won’t sell great anyways. It’ll be 3 games away from MP4 if MP2 or MP3 don’t release in between. In the end it’ll be up to Metroid Prime 4 to sell itself. That’s why I believe Nintendo needs to start the marketing for it now if it’s coming late 2023.I don't think it's about how much it would sell above the original, it's about the pedigree and starting the push of MP4. Release a bare HD res up game, and that could hurt your new sequel.
If Nintendo/Retro are remastering this game instead of 3, it makes me believe that 4 would be more tied to 1.I don’t agree with this. A Metroid Prime Remaster or Remake won’t sell great anyways. It’ll be 3 games away from MP4 if MP2 or MP3 don’t release in between. In the end it’ll be up to Metroid Prime 4 to sell itself. That’s why I believe Nintendo needs to start the marketing for it now if it’s coming late 2023.
I guess we’ll have to wait and see if it has some new content. I don’t think Nate knows if it does have new content.if Prime gets the Xenoblade Definitive Edition treatment then that's cool but this game got a new epilogue in addition to a graphical overhaul and QOL.
Even Link's Awakening received new content with the Dungeon Creator while being completely redone visually.
It's hard for Nintendo to sell Prime Remaster at full price if it's nothing more than a graphical overhaul.
Wasn't the main reason for XC DEs new content to set up xenoblade 3 though? Wouldn't it be weird to add new content for 1 to set up something for 4 when theres two games in between. Unless the new content didn't have relevance to the plot of the series.I guess we’ll have to wait and see if it has some new content. I don’t think Nate knows if it does have new content.
if Prime gets the Xenoblade Definitive Edition treatment then that's cool but this game got a new epilogue in addition to a graphical overhaul and QOL.
Even Link's Awakening received new content with the Dungeon Creator while being completely redone visually.
It's hard for Nintendo to sell Prime Remaster at full price if it's nothing more than a graphical overhaul.
They would absolutely do this, and it would be a big success lol. Like i said, most people only really care about the visuals in a remaster or remakeYou know, people say this a lot but Nintendo does it anyways and is very successful. They literally released Mario Bros U and Pikmin 3 with minimal changes and charged full price.
Wii U games vs GCN games, not really fair imoYou know, people say this a lot but Nintendo does it anyways and is very successful. They literally released Mario Bros U and Pikmin 3 with minimal changes and charged full price.
you sure? how many good remakes have you seen?Remaster so if it's anything more you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Wii U games vs GCN games, not really fair imo
Skyward Sword they had to rework a lot more the controls and it’s a Zelda game a much more popular franchise. Also we have seen how it had awful legs , the worst of any Zelda game in the system . Will they want to repeat this with a less popular IP on Metroid? I don’t expect a full remake but more than just a HD version, I think it should be something like Wind Waker HD.They sold Skyward Sword, a Wii game, for full price just last year. If anything, bringing Metroid Prime up to more current graphical standards if a bigger effort than porting over some Wii U games, so in Nintendo's mind, a full price is even more justified.
If they had to rework the controls for Skyward Sword they will almost certainly rework them for Metroid Prime yeahSkyward Sword they had to rework a lot more the controls and it’s a Zelda game a much more popular franchise. Also we have seen how it had awful games , the worst of any Zelda game in the system . Will they want to repeat this with a less popular IP on Metroid? I don’t expect a full remake but more than just a HD version, I think it should be something like Wind Waker HD.
Skyward Sword they had to rework a lot more the controls and it’s a Zelda game a much more popular franchise. Also we have seen how it had awful games , the worst of any Zelda game in the system . Will they want to repeat this with a less popular IP on Metroid? I don’t expect a full remake but more than just a HD version, I think it should be something like Wind Waker HD.
I wanted to write legs not games , it had a really strong first quarter but then fell off heavily compared to other Zelda games in the system.I'm guessing you meant to say awful sales instead of awful games. It sold millions of copies and probably had a giant return on investment.
And the original post I was responding to was saying Nintendo can't get away with just a graphical overhaul. I was saying Nintendo could get away with it because they have gotten away with doing less. Your suggestion it should be like Wind Waker HD is just that...graphical overhaul. Sure it had some minor things but nothing substantial.