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PlayStation Final Fantasy VII Rebirth demo (Nibelheim flashback) out now. New demo containing open world portion out later.
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Oh my god I'm floored. This game will be everything I've ever wanted.
I've put an hour into the demo and all I want to do is play it more. Damn work.
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Wheeeeeeww. Yāall, we have an all-timer on our hands.
Adored more or less everything about the demo, itās everything I loved in Remake, but doubled down upon. I was equally just gasping in awe and had shivers all over. They totally nailed the climaxes of the demo. Totally. Also the music cannot be understated. Itās absurdly good.
Only thing Iām not entirely aboard on is the new combat moves, which made the fights in part feel rather finicky and bloated.
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Also, vacuum hype! I lurked Era for a while and some people hated it. I thought it was dope.
Gonna be some excruciating three weeks. This has pretty much ruined everything Iāve planned on playing until then, I just wonāt be able to settle down.
Adored more or less everything about the demo, itās everything I loved in Remake, but doubled down upon. I was equally just gasping in awe and had shivers all over. They totally nailed the climaxes of the demo. Totally. Also the music cannot be understated. Itās absurdly good.
Only thing Iām not entirely aboard on is the new combat moves, which made the fights in part feel rather finicky and bloated.
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I get that they wanted and needed to have Cloud and Sephiroth to be the same level in combat for it to work, but it loses a lot of that cool feeling of being Level 1 loser Cloud and have our OP buddy decimate everything, which was important character building in the original game.
Also, vacuum hype! I lurked Era for a while and some people hated it. I thought it was dope.
Gonna be some excruciating three weeks. This has pretty much ruined everything Iāve planned on playing until then, I just wonāt be able to settle down.
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As soon as I realized what was going on with the vacuum, I thought "oh, people are going to HATE this."
But those deliberate pace-shifters (see: the crane in Remake) have never really bothered me either.
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I kinda like it as another subtle indication that it's actually Zack and not Cloud. Combined with the mannerisms it's a fun way to sort of wink at people who already know.
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Just finished the demo and i thought it was phenomenal, Square cooked!
Yeah, i don't disagree but i think (hope?) it will all be introduced more gradually in the proper game.
Also hope they will tweak performance mode a bit before launch because now it looks a bit...rough, let's leave it at that.
Yeah, i don't disagree but i think (hope?) it will all be introduced more gradually in the proper game.
Also hope they will tweak performance mode a bit before launch because now it looks a bit...rough, let's leave it at that.
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Anyone else have crashing and the screen turning white? I canāt find a single other person talking about this online. I tested other ps5 games and didnāt have this issue, so I donāt think itās my console. But again no one else seems to be having this issue
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Eh; this felt a bit more like a loading screen.
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Edit: [The tweet was deleted. But it was some very bad AI voice acting from the demo.]
Double Edit: Apparently it was a badly editted take?
Double Edit: Apparently it was a badly editted take?
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It was most likely placeholder VA. It didn't sound like AI to me.
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Yeah, they put plenty of wink wink moments to drive it home. Right down to how you could see the blonde hair under the guard/Real!Cloud's helmet, and when you spoke to him, Zack's voice came out.
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Saw some Era members with the same problem.
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Eh I absolutely loved Remake and had very minor context for the OG game. I think it can work on its own. Jumping straight into Rebirth though would probably feel kind of weird though, although I guess they do have the story recap included in this demo for people who need it.
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imo all you need to know to play remake is that the original game exists and you can kind of fill in the gaps from there, you'll miss some tiny stuff but i think the general parts of FF7 that most gamers have absorbed through cultural osmosis is all you need
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Glad itās not just me
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Just finished the demo. Cannot wait. Disappointed to hear about Cid, although I had a feeling Vincent wouldn't be playable. Still.... I know this is a blisteringly hot take, but I'm so excited to re-experience my favorite Final Fantasy like this.
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They're probably going to handle it like Remake.
Introduce in the game as NPC, playable in the next one. Same with Red XIII
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I see a lot of people hammering the
thing a lot. I do feel it looked a tad odd but Iām otherwise fine with Sephiroth in the demo. However, I do hope that they wonāt make more drastic changes than this when it comes to super important scenes, I still canāt get over how they completely screwed up president Shinra in Remake.
final scene where Sephiroth just stands there and then take down the people one by one while thereās a forced crawl
thing a lot. I do feel it looked a tad odd but Iām otherwise fine with Sephiroth in the demo. However, I do hope that they wonāt make more drastic changes than this when it comes to super important scenes, I still canāt get over how they completely screwed up president Shinra in Remake.
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I think they've said neither Cid or Vincent will feature in battle at all.
Edit, found the article: https://www.ign.com/articles/vincen...in-final-fantasy-7-rebirths-combat-encounters
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This is definitely the first game that's really got me wishing for the PS5 Pro. Or at least a 40fps mode with VRR support.
The performance mode is so blurry, and the graphics mode is so juddery, feels like the PS5 is really struggling with it.
The game itself is fantastic though and I still can't wait for the full release.
The performance mode is so blurry, and the graphics mode is so juddery, feels like the PS5 is really struggling with it.
The game itself is fantastic though and I still can't wait for the full release.
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The scope of the game looks gigantic, almost inconceivably so. The music so far has all been bangers, not a single track I dislike. The block/parry additions make the flow of the combat feel so much better overall and the character interactions here are all great.
However, something I noticed about this section specifically is that the developers went out of their way to make sure that gameplay elements that were rampant in part 1 would all be present here, i.e the camera pans and focuses on your next objective when a conversation ends, your character speed halts when you go off the beaten path, most interactable environments are highlighted in some way (like yellow paint or an icon), minor objectives you have to complete to open the path that feels unnecessary (mako purifier), and they even included one of those sliding sections that didn't feel out of necessity, it felt more like a callback.
The open zone should demo new gameplay elements better
However, something I noticed about this section specifically is that the developers went out of their way to make sure that gameplay elements that were rampant in part 1 would all be present here, i.e the camera pans and focuses on your next objective when a conversation ends, your character speed halts when you go off the beaten path, most interactable environments are highlighted in some way (like yellow paint or an icon), minor objectives you have to complete to open the path that feels unnecessary (mako purifier), and they even included one of those sliding sections that didn't feel out of necessity, it felt more like a callback.
The open zone should demo new gameplay elements better
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There's something weird going on when you're controlling Cloud, he looks more blurry than NPC's. I don't think it's a resolution problem. Faces also seem blurry but textures in the surrounding area look sharper.
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I was frankly more bothered by the fact that
Sephiroth is slashing and stabbing left and right but there's absolutely zero blood on screen
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I'd also say you might as well toss in the Crisis Core remaster, too. At least before you play Rebirth. The 7-Re games have made it very apparent that chars and events that popped up in that work can freely show up and be referenced here, too.
So, if you want to get the full picture of what's going on, who this "Zack" guy is, and his relationship to both Cloud and Sephiroth, there you go.
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for sure, but I don't think it's important to know who characters like Leslie and Kyrie (from the books) or references to Genesis or Deepground or whatever are before 7 Remake, that info is more just like "cool if you know but doesn't matter if you don't" - but yeah Crisis Core perhaps yeah - though, I'm sure it will get into it over the course of the game and play as a reveal like it did in the original game (newbies questioning who this guy is etc...)
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Not sure if itās the ps5 struggling, or square struggling to make a game of this scope. You can look at plenty of last gen open world games that were massive and had way better texture work and ran smoother than this demo does. Games like ac Odyssey, horizon zero dawn, hell id even go as far as saying that ffxv blows what ive seen of rebirth away visually, especially
Maxed out on pc. It could also be a ue4 issue. What other open world ue4 games are out there that I could compare this to?
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I feel so, so seen.
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I'm having a really hard time not lauding this as the best piece of VGM ever written:
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wtf this is sick
It's the whole direction of the scene that is kinda bad. It's like they wanted to do something better than one of the absolute most iconic scenes from the original and the best they could come up with was having Cloud be there for most of it and making the scene interactive. But this scene in particular gains absolutely nothing from being interactive and if anything it just makes it feel like a slog and much goofier.
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Let's just hope this is some older build and performance in final build will be a lot better
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Visual Issues Are Seemingly Caused by Post Processing at 1/4 Resolution
No word on whether this gets fixed during or after launch.
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I can't freaking wait to see how cool Bugenhagen's explanation of the lifestream looks in this
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It would look cooler if Bugenhagen was just a conglomeration of weird geometric shapes like he was on the PSOne.
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I forget, have they showed him zooming around on his weird lil' exercise ball yet?
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I want to say yes because I have at least one text from my brother lamenting that he doesn't look like a bunch of floating spheres.
The ending scene is so poorly written and conceived.
Who the hell wrote / designed / directed / signed off on that?
four guys with guns approach Sephiroth and none of them shoot him. They all just stand there point their gun at him as he slooooowwwllly takes his time killing them all one by one very sloooowwwwlllyyy while none of them fire their guns at him while he slooooowwwwllllyy kills them one by one.
Who the hell wrote / designed / directed / signed off on that?
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I don't think we're going to get along.
There's no way you watched that and didn't notice how awkward or ridiculous that all was. The whole time I was thinking "uhhhhh what the hell are they doing?"
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That's what I came to the Remakes for. The original game is all kinds of awkward and ridiculous. I don't want that to change! I just want it to look better and have a killer soundtrack.
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I think it was odd and a strange decision, but I donāt hate it or anything. But it showed a bit of a worrying sign that theyāre not afraid to āshake upā even the most iconic scenes from the OG. Which can be amazing (rooftops) or a complete backfire. (President Shinra scene, which I feel compelled to mention again)
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It was pretty bad. I also thought the movement and traversal felt really bad in the demo, especially concerning to me considering the open areas in the game (although I'll wait to see how part 2 of the demo is). Honestly was not impressed with demo last night.
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It does go on for a bit too long but I just took it as them being completely paralyzed with fear.
They flubbed the execution a bit but I don't mind that much.
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I saw some talk about this on era but I agree with some the idea that this scene looks the way it does to keep the rating down.
Doesn't really change that the execution on the scene is off (why have them posed with guns at all if they can't really shoot) but it does make some sense to me. There's a pretty distinct lack of any blood etc in this and the previous remake too.
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Oh for sure, it's definitely a concession to the ratings boards as well. It's a little disappointing but by and large it doesn't really bother me.
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Execution is a little off - probably could sell it with a bit more dialogue ie: "You son of a bitch, why would you this - you're a hero" etc... trying to talk him down and reason with him like he's still the man they think he is bc they don't want to shoot their hero or be responsible for killing the world's great war hero etc... and he just has Mako poisoning from the reactor etc (and yes, I'm guessing there are some ratings shenanigans going on) but I think we can probably assume they're scared and also worship Sephiroth as a hero so don't want to shoot him (and are small town men who maybe act tough but can't follow through), but i agree it doesn't exactly land that the way its presented.
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....what.
The "remake" is already changing everything about the game but the broadest of strokes. They literally introduced time-travel ghosts, and a giant heartless boss fight. But this is what you don't want them to change?
The scene worked fine in the original game due to the limited animation, resolution, and camera work. It was basically like watching animated lego figures. It just straight up does not make sense to try and replicate that in a cinematic setting; especially when they changed so much else.
Meanwhile, the original game had a surprising amount of blood. Shinra HQ really isn't the same without "The Thing" leaving a bloody trail in it's wake. Nor does the Midgar Zolom work without the blood. Certain scenes really require it in order to sell the story.
