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Oh nice. Over here we call that “Wisconsin.”
As a fellow Wisconsinite, I shall drink to that!
Oh nice. Over here we call that “Wisconsin.”
If it were Summer, I can humor a September launch at the earliest. Any sooner and you'd potentially face too little of a marketing cycle for the console. I definitely think it'll launch before November. They'll want the opportunity to have sorted supply for the holiday period.If we're done making each other feel old, I have a question. How many of us think that summer is a viable time to release the Switch 2, compared to other times of the year? I remember last year, summer wasn't too popular of a pick in regards to a potential release date. Have stances change since then? I'm just curious what some of you think.
relatable actuallyI dunno, same age as me? As I get older, the idea of adults younger than me becomes more and more incomprehensible.
If it's being revealed in March, I'd say that that's ample time to advertise it, even if it launches in June.If it were Summer, I can humor a September launch at the earliest. Any sooner and you'd potentially face too little of a marketing cycle for the console.
Hasn't this already been discussed? The Nintendo Switch got 2 months of real marketing, while revisions and versions like Series S, New 3DS, etc. got one or two months.If it were Summer, I can humor a September launch at the earliest. Any sooner and you'd potentially face too little of a marketing cycle for the console. I definitely think it'll launch before November. They'll want the opportunity to have sorted supply for the holiday period.
May especially, get the kids a big new handheld for the back of the car during the summer holidays? Or a reward for their report card? Or people spending their tax return? June works too, of course, but May has most of the benefits I've argued for March while also giving them more time to prepare.
Speaking of this, if y'all wanna feel old, I got DSi as a reward for an elementary school report card.
Hasn't this already been discussed? The Nintendo Switch got 2 months of real marketing, while revisions and versions like Series S, New 3DS, etc. got one or two months.
September is also not "Early Summer", which is the information we're going off, as far as I know nobody has reported summer without the qualifier "early". I've really only seen "earlier if possible" and "early summer"
I can independently corroborate that I'm losing itLove the hardware discussion in this thread lmao.
Nintendo bettter hurry up with that switch 2 reveal, people here are losing it
That's how I got my SNES
this early summer semantics garbage is getting old lol.
Imagine being from a Caribbean country where we don't even have seasons.this early summer semantics garbage is getting old lol.
By "early" I meant the earliest time I'd think it'd launch in the summer window. Point taken about the Switch's quick reveal to launch cycle though. Considering they aren't coming off a console like the WiiU I could potentially see them opting to take more time.Hasn't this already been discussed? The Nintendo Switch got 2 months of real marketing, while revisions and versions like Series S, New 3DS, etc. got one or two months.
September is also not "Early Summer", which is the information we're going off, as far as I know nobody has reported summer without the qualifier "early". I've really only seen "earlier if possible" and "early summer"
Oh that's a good point, I think maybe Q2 would be the right thing to say for my view.Imagine being from a Caribbean country where we don't even have seasons.
All this seasons talk is literally incomprehensible to me. I hate it when companies use it as release windows instead of just saying Q3 or whatever
I'm of the opposite opinion on this. The Wii U had a huge wind up to a wet fart, and the Switch proved success with a short cycle, even revisions with 2 month marketing periods sold out day one. They don't need to prove anything this time, they've proven a short cycle works, why mess with success?By "early" I meant the earliest time I'd think it'd launch in the summer window. Point taken about the Switch's quick reveal to launch cycle though. Considering they aren't coming off a console like the WiiU I could potentially see them opting to take more time.
I guess the main question is how far along the manufacturing of the console is. Was the reveal trailer in October 2016 the start of full manufacturing for the Switch, or was it after the January event ahead of the March launch?I'm of the opposite opinion on this. The Wii U had a huge wind up to a wet fart, and the Switch proved success with a short cycle, even revisions with 2 month marketing periods sold out day one. They don't need to prove anything this time, they've proven a short cycle works, why mess with success?
Manufacturing started in October 2016.I guess the main question is how far along the manufacturing of the console is. Was the reveal trailer in October 2016 the start of full manufacturing for the Switch, or was it after the January event?
Because sometimes you get Nintendo DS?why mess with success?
Switch first trailer: 20 October 2016
Switch release: 3 March 2017
4 months and a half
Switch Lite trailer: 10 July 2019
Switch Lite release: 20 September 2019
2 months
Switch OLED trailer: 6 July 2021
Switch OLED release: 8 October 2021
3 months
I think they can totally do a quick rollout if we are to follow all Switch models. If Nate heard rumblings about March back in last summer, it was most likely partners needing to have their games ready to be shown at a March blowout. I don't think people were already whispering back then that Nintendo was going to drop a twit in March. If many people heard something it's because there were many actors involved, as in a big presentation. This time around they don't really need to explain what a Switch is, they only need to underline that this is a new thing and show games that obviously couldn't be played in the OG Switch.
Soon after the October reveal, but nowadays they have multiple examples of going from reveal to release for revisions (New 3DS, Lite and OLED), including tight manufacturing timelines. They also almost certainly have far MORE factory lines this time than they did in 2016, while we can't ignore that they could have already started or be about to begin, which would give them some time to built up stock ahead of launch.I guess the main question is how far along the manufacturing of the console is. Was the reveal trailer in October 2016 the start of full manufacturing for the Switch, or was it after the January event ahead of the March launch?
Like... Nintendo's Switch's January and February 2017?The next system isn’t another Switch model to my understanding and is a completely new next generation system which might require a huge marketing push for the system and software over a longer period of time.
This. I’m even getting called out in other threads. It’s gonna be a long 30-40 days T_T
I still don't know what a Zoomer, boomer, millennial etc is. I'm 44 in April.Wait, am I a zoomer? I thought 95 was still the millennial zone.
Well, according to your theory the new generation would need a longer marketing cycle than the original model, which was a revolutionary new concept thas has created a new niche in the market. My theory is that the marketing cycle will be as long as the original one (4 months and a half) or even shorter. The Switch has so much momentum that people are just buying whatever they put out. This is not a Wii to Wii U or Wii U to Switch situation, where there was 0 momentum. They can just announce the new model and people will switch to buying that one, and a big marketing push will make sure in the following months that consumers understand what this is. The first batch of buyers, the early adopters, don't need much explaining. It's the people buying from Black Friday to Christmas that need guidance.The next system isn’t another Switch model to my understanding and is a completely new next generation system which might require a huge marketing push for the system and software over a longer period of time.
Switch 1 was a different situation where Nintendo needed a new system out asap after the Wii U failure so a shorter turn around was always expected.
Like... Nintendo's Switch's January and February 2016?
It's simply not true to suggest they were actively marketing in late 2016, it got all of two bits in 2016, so, it was two months of marketing as well.
Somebody mentioned it already, but I believe that tidbit referred to the unusual NX announcement that happened what, 18 months before release? We all now that was because of different circumstances so Furukawa was only stating the obvious.My thinking is that Furukawa has stated that Nintendo wants a short reveal to release window when it comes to releasing their next gen hardware. That means that Nintendo itself has stated that the window will be short this time around, so that could mean anywhere from 3-6 months depending on your definition of a short release window.
Well, according to your theory the new generation would need a longer marketing cycle than the original model, which was a revolutionary new concept thas has created a new niche in the market. My theory is that the marketing cycle will be as long as the original one (4 months and a half) or even shorter. The Switch has so much momentum that people are just buying whatever they put out. This is not a Wii to Wii U or Wii U to Switch situation, where there was 0 momentum. They can just announce the new model and people will switch to buying that one, and a big marketing push will make sure in the following months that consumers understand what this is. The first batch of buyers, the early adopters, don't need much explaining. It's the people buying from Black Friday to Christmas that need guidance.
I was 36 turning 37 in AprDamn... I was really 15/16 when the switch came out
some of you guys could be my parents that's wild (kinda cool tbh)
Doctre81 has been speculating that November and the months leading up it would be a bad time for release because of the US election. For those outside of the states, our election cycles are a little over a year long. As we get closer to the election day more and more ad slots are bought up by various candidates running for election which means fewer opportunities for a Switch 2 ad. And news media is less focused on other things in pop culture like a new console release.I think it's viable, I'm never been sure why the general consensus has been that summer is a bad time to release consoles. Kids are home from school with all the free time, hello?
Also I know it's not the same industry but the big blockbuster movies tend to be released during summer season. But what do I know.
That's when the world needs the Switch 2 the most, especially if Trump is winning.Doctre81 has been speculating that November and the months leading up it would be a bad time for release because of the US election. For those outside of the states, our election cycles are a little over a year long. As we get closer to the election day more and more ad slots are bought up by various candidates running for election which means fewer opportunities for a Switch 2 ad. And news media is less focused on other things in pop culture like a new console release.
January to March 2017.I want the Switch 2’a release date to be announced already so we can finally know what timing strategy Nintendo will use for their consoles. Yes, Lite and OLED had a short reveal-release interval, but we have the uncertainty of whether they’ll use this for a full console.
Remember: the sales projections of a console will never be the same for a revision
Information travels very fast if it's a HOT product, which is what the Switch is. Wii and Wii U were not hot, there was no momentum. Nintendo benefits from doing a quick rollout rather than extending the marketing cycle and hurting sales of the OG Switch. Once the announcement is made, the decline of the OG sales will become stronger unless they do an aggressive price cut.Nintendo is in a good spot and can release SNG pretty much any month that they choose. Even though June-August are typically seen as being off the table, does anyone really believe the system wont sell if it were to release one of those months? I am in the camp that believes manufacturing hasn't began yet but will be very soon. I do think Nintendo wants to have a lot of stock available when they do launch and that is why I believe September is a likely month. I would love for it to launch sooner, but with it seems like production hasnt started yet and I do not believe they want to launch 2-3 months later only to have severe shortages.
As others have stated, the marketing cycle is short these days. It doesn't really start until they start doing commercials on TV, and that typically happens a couple months ahead of a systems release. This was true even when consoles were announced years and advance. Switch is a well known and well understood product and the communication with consumers should be pretty straightforward. Switch OLED was announced and released within a few months and still managed to sell out when it released. People often forget that the Switch OLED was hard to find when it first came out, and that was for a revision model with limited improvements over the base model. Information travels faster than ever, no need to spend big marketing dollars for a product that wont be available for sale for many months.
I’m trying to find the world where the Wii was not considered a hot product w/no momentum.Information travels very fast if it's a HOT product, which is what the Switch is. Wii and Wii U were not hot, there was no momentum. Nintendo benefits from doing a quick rollout rather than extending the marketing cycle and hurting sales of the OG Switch. Once the announcement is made, the decline of the OG will become stronger unless they do an aggressive price cut.
If the PS5 sold out almost by default, the Switch 2 will do just fine considering how the Switch has done and is still doing.
I think 2 kb ram is the safest bet, but they may surprise us with 4.If the Internet had been a thing back then, I would have been old enough to lurk in the NES speculation thread...
It is not releasing in Autumn.It is not releasing in Summer.
Look at the sales history of both the Wii and the Switch (up until 2021). Wii sales are known for having fallen off of a cliff after an initial explotion. In just 5 years the Switch sold as many consoles as the Wii, and then it kept on selling at a very healthy rate up until now.I’m trying to find the world where the Wii was not considered a hot product w/no momentum.
I don’t recall hearing about the Switch 2 fan (though this thread moves so fast I could have missed something). Your OG Switch fan may simply need to get replaced. I have a launch Switch as well, and the fan never gets especially loud.Are there any words about the vent/fan? My current launch Switch (the only Switch I have) sounds like a plane taking off regardless what I play or do with it.
Never seen a summer release as a problem. The GBA launched in Summer 2001 and did incredibly well.If we're done making each other feel old, I have a question. How many of us think that summer is a viable time to release the Switch 2, compared to other times of the year? I remember last year, summer wasn't too popular of a pick in regards to a potential release date. Have stances change since then? I'm just curious what some of you think.
I look forward to your new avatar.This. I’m even getting called out in other threads. It’s gonna be a long 30-40 days T_T