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Giancarlo said:
that a big strange, why didnt Nintendo do a next gen patch for this game,when they are runing on Switch sucessor
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Assuming this is Switch 2 related and not just Nintendo being slow to restock Pikmin
This could be a reprint with Switch 2 branding and a label saying 'playable on your Switch and Switch 2' is possible.

This has happened before with a publisher. Just from my personal experience, i could find FFXI around the PS2 release; Square-Enix reprinted the game so it took some time for copies to make it back on to shelves. so not unheard of
 
Terrell said:
Network throughput on Switch is capped, it has nothing to do with the WiFi chip and everything to do with the fact that there’s only so much the device can process of incoming data packets at any given moment, so the speed at which any network data can be processed is artificially capped at a specific maximum to prevent it overtaking any other necessary computational strength or RAM capacity. Ethernet can reduce packet loss issues, which is quite beneficial, but it cannot overcome this imposed limitation.
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at my switch's online connection settings the max speed hovers around 87 mbps even with a 200 mbps online connection from the isp :cry:
 
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Dekuman said:
Assuming this is Switch 2 related and not just Nintendo being slow to restock Pikmin
This could be a reprint with Switch 2 branding and a label saying 'playable on your Switch and Switch 2' is possible.

This has happened before with a publisher. Just from my personal experience, i could find FFXI around the PS2 release; Square-Enix reprinted the game so it took some time for copies to make it back on to shelves. so not unheard of
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Initially I thought they removed Paper Mario: Orgami King because they didn't want to harm Paper Mario: TTYD sales when it releases.

But Paper Mario: TTYD has no release date yet, so I think it''s too soon to remove PM:OK from printing.

Unless they're opening up preorders for PM:TTYD soon?

However, that of course doesn't explain Pikmin 3 removal when we got Pikmin 4 not too long ago. I am skeptical we'd get Pikmin 5 so soon, lol.
 
ertaboy356b said:
I just wish Nintendo doesn't skimp on Dock mode. 2x power of handheld mode is a waste when it can be much more.
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The problem is that the further apart the performance profiles are, the more complicated it is to properly optimize for both

Dekuman said:
This has happened before with a publisher. Just from my personal experience, i could find FFXI around the PS2 release; Square-Enix reprinted the game so it took some time for copies to make it back on to shelves. so not unheard of
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There's also certain Xbox 360 games that got reprinted to have both Xbox 360 and Xbox One logos
 
Terrell said:
As @AshiodyneFX mentions, there are more possibilities for how a Lite might transpire this time around. Better battery is one, but there's also a possibility that the battery performance in handheld mode is already so great in the standard hybrid model that a Lite could theoretically appear immediately at launch if they wanted it to and still have better overall battery performance and lower price with a smaller display, fewer Bluetooth devices to mandatorily connect to, no dock (with its myriad ICs to facilitate docking), etc. If Nintendo is opting for the process that is being speculated, there isn't really going to be any room for a die shrink within its lifetime and what we see at launch is what Nintendo will be stuck with for the entire lifecycle. But so long as what they're stuck with is good, I don't think that matters.
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These are true, and it feels like an improved battery chemistry is somewhere around the corner. I just don't know when. There's a Chinese car maker that has a model coming out with a sodium-ion battery, but I've seen articles that show that at 120Wh/kg as opposed to the ~250Wh/kg that a high end lithium-ion battery can provide. I don't know a whole lot about battery technology, but the big transition will happen when we beat lithium-ion on price, energy density, and volumetric energy density. Maybe just the first two will be enough for certain applications though.

Here's hoping that can get 3 hours out of a battery sized for a Switch Lite out the gate!
 
darthdiablo said:
Initially I thought they removed Paper Mario: Orgami King because they didn't want to harm Paper Mario: TTYD sales when it releases.

But Paper Mario: TTYD has no release date yet, so I think it''s too soon to remove PM:OK from printing.

Unless they're opening up preorders for PM:TTYD soon?

However, that of course doesn't explain Pikmin 3 removal when we got Pikmin 4 not too long ago. I am skeptical we'd get Pikmin 5 so soon, lol.
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I don't think that Nintendo has ever forced one game out of print to make room for the next entry. Three Houses wasn't pulled to make room for Engage. Same with Xenoblade 1 for 3.

I believe that (if the OOP news is true) is just Nintendo starting to clear out software that is probably tapped out in terns if sales. Get ready for the new generation.
 
gnetc said:
Always find it funny how blunt you are when you shut down speculation 😂
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I appreciate it. It helps me sleep at night. Ironically I have missed the boat on that this time as it’s already 6:30 AM and I HAVENT slept.
 
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As for battery life, anyone can easily calculate it.
The calculation formula for battery life is [mAh]/1000*[V]/[W].
The battery capacity of Nintendo Switch is 4310mAh/3.7V.
Therefore, if the battery life is 2.5 hours, the power can be calculated to be 6.4W.
2.5=4310/1000*3.7/[W]; X=6.3788 [W]
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If we want the battery life to be 2.5 hours at 10W, the battery capacity should be 6757mAh.
2.5=[mAh]/1000*3.7/10; X=6756.756... [mAh]
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Josh5890 said:
I don't think that Nintendo has ever forced one game out of print to make room for the next entry. Three Houses wasn't pulled to make room for Engage. Same with Xenoblade 1 for 3.

I believe that (if the OOP news is true) is just Nintendo starting to clear out software that is probably tapped out in terns if sales. Get ready for the new generation.
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yeah games going out of print seems like such a normal natural thing to me
 
I wouldn't be surprised if there are new releases for some of these out of print games that has new branding mentioning it can play on both the current Switch and nextgen Switch.
 
LiC said:
I like how they just doubled all the specs and called it good. Clearly it will have a 12.4'' screen, too.


No offense, but I can never understand why there are always replies like this to baseless and fake leak posts. Who cares whether it's normal/reasonable or not? This is supposed to be a leak of factual information. Veracity, not plausibility, is at issue. Being plausible (in one's opinion) doesn't change the fact that it's bullshit, and should be identified and discarded as such.
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Actually this is a speculation thread, It can be anything that seems possible
 
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bmfrosty said:
The tech is the issue. It's hard placing it before 2014. 2015 if you want the same SoC.
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I was assuming it would use an earlier Tegra like the Tegra 3. What I was thinking would be a real problem would be stuff like the lack of USB-C, difficulty of making the detachable controllers, etc.

crazybenjamin said:
The problem is that the further apart the performance profiles are, the more complicated it is to properly optimize for both
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How so? In this case it would just be a wider gap in resolution, which already fits since 1080p->2160p is a bigger jump than 720p->1080p.
 
Nate is doing work killing Nintendo speculation this month lmao. I wish that podcast episode would come out sooner rather than later but I will just have to endure. At least if it comes out later the info will hopefully be vetted a ton and more useful.
 
carbvan said:
Nate is doing work killing Nintendo speculation this month lmao. I wish that podcast episode would come out sooner rather than later but I will just have to endure. At least if it comes out later the info will hopefully be vetted a ton and more useful.
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Tbh while I think he will sprinkle some info in the predictions video, he usually makes an additional podcast in order to discuss significant information. If/When he's able to talk about substantial news he will announce it like he does pretty much every time. I wouldn't expect his predictions video to satiate the info drought all too much, it might but best practice is to just chill imo.
 
If we get something this month, it would be more towards the end of it. But personally I am thinking if will be February and it will be a Switch focused Direct. I do feel that shortly after or around there will be a teaser for the next system as well with a reveal in March and a release soon after. Personally I hope May as that would be around my birthday :D.

More logically I feel a end of August/September release.
 
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looks hype 🤩 but i'll wait until more spec info is released to know how much more powerful this future cpu core is 🧐
 
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I wonder if Nate knows something and he’s not speaking because it’s too soon or if he’s for now in the dark because there’s no concrete information being passed around. In any case I’m dying for his Nintendo episode.
 
maniacmaison said:
I wonder if Nate knows something and he’s not speaking because it’s too soon or if he’s for now in the dark because there’s no concrete information being passed around. In any case I’m dying for his Nintendo episode.
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I'd fucking hate it if there was a tacit agreement among leakers to pull a "If you know, you know" statement. You can't do this to me.

I do feel like if leakers knew something about the Switch 2 and spoke about it, it'd be pretty dangerous for them. Nintendo's secrecy means that anything that could be filed under "leaking company secrets" is potential for a lawsuit, at least i believe. That would probably explain the Shareholder spike a couple of weeks ago. DF, NatetheHate and others could just be keeping quiet to keep their hides safe.

Edit: Thanks to @Bonejack clarifying, updated to just say "NatetheHate"
 
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SoldierDelta said:
I'd fucking hate it if there was a tacit agreement among leakers to pull a "If you know, you know" statement. You can't do this to me.

I do feel like if leakers knew something about the Switch 2 and spoke about it, it'd be pretty dangerous for them. Nintendo's secrecy means that anything that could be filed under "leaking company secrets" is potential for a lawsuit, at least i believe. That would probably explain the Shareholder spike a couple of weeks ago. NateDrake, DF, NatetheHate and others could just be keeping quiet to keep their hides safe.
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Shareholder spike?

Oh and btw. unless i got something massively wrong, NateDrake = NatetheHate.
 
crazybenjamin said:
The problem is that the further apart the performance profiles are, the more complicated it is to properly optimize for both
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I say let the developer decide and give them options. If they want to use 30W or 50W, then go ahead. Nintendo shouldn't limit the power of the device. As long as the device's temps are within the expected threshold, they should just let the developers do whatever they want. You can have the handheld at 9W and docked at 12W but what if at 15W, the game will run at 60FPS, does it mean that we are stuck with 30FPS or unstable framerate? Battery life is a non-issue when it comes to dock mode.
 
Bonejack said:
Shareholder spike?

Oh and btw. unless i got something massively wrong, NateDrake = NatetheHate.
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In reference to Shareholder Chad's findings about the recent stock spike in December (see his thread on it, it's very good).

Also, I every time I ask about NatetheHate/Drake, I literally just get the answer "I don't know" so I've just taken to referring to them separately. If they're the same person, then at least now I know now.
 
Vantell said:
If we get something this month, it would be more towards the end of it. But personally I am thinking if will be February and it will be a Switch focused Direct. I do feel that shortly after or around there will be a teaser for the next system as well with a reveal in March and a release soon after. Personally I hope May as that would be around my birthday :D.

More logically I feel a end of August/September release.
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I feel like Another Code is the last "roadbump" we need to pass to get the announcement, since February would be a nice month to sink in the initial thoughts of trailer, just like October - January was for Switch in 2016/2017. I do agree about a reveal event March, yeah.

I really wonder what furukawa's thought are about promoting the system in such short time, if its late may, however, September is something I won't completely rule out, but May does have more time to get more sales from the whole year and could built something up for the holidays, I assume.
 
Apenknul said:
I really wonder what furukawa's thought are about promoting the system in such short time, if its late may, however, September is something I won't completely rule out, but May does have more time to get more sales from the whole year and could built something up for the holidays, I assume
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You know what? I know so little about him. Maybe if we can get to know him and his team we can get a better prediction?
 
SoldierDelta said:
In reference to Shareholder Chad's findings about the recent stock spike in December (see his thread on it, it's very good).

Also, I every time I ask about NatetheHate/Drake, I literally just get the answer "I don't know" so I've just taken to referring to them separately. If they're the same person, then at least now I know now.
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Yeah. Nate Drake is NatetheHate
 
ertaboy356b said:
I say let the developer decide and give them options. If they want to use 30W or 50W, then go ahead. Nintendo shouldn't limit the power of the device. As long as the device's temps are within the expected threshold, they should just let the developers do whatever they want. You can have the handheld at 9W and docked at 12W but what if at 15W, the game will run at 60FPS, does it mean that we are stuck with 30FPS or unstable framerate? Battery life is a non-issue when it comes to dock mode.
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It's not just about thermals, it's about binning. They're going to cap frequencies at a level that the vast majority of their produced chips can achieve.
 
SoldierDelta said:
In reference to Shareholder Chad's findings about the recent stock spike in December (see his thread on it, it's very good).

Also, I every time I ask about NatetheHate/Drake, I literally just get the answer "I don't know" so I've just taken to referring to them separately. If they're the same person, then at least now I know now.
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They're separate people. In the same way Big Bad Harv is separate to Harvey Dent.
 
Just saying this as a long time lurker and enjoyer of this thread but I do think DF John probably knows something, not that he'll say exactly what at this point. The DF crew have many contacts in the industry. Remember they kept quiet about Series S for months despite various aspects about it leaking before its trailer leaked entirely. The tweet could easily be a double bluff - does he actually know something, nah he's just riffing off a Nintendo tweet from years ago (etc) when it could easily be a bit of both!

Anyway... I look forward to hearing some actual Switch 2 news 😁
 
dotnetguy said:
Just saying this as a long time lurker and enjoyer of this thread but I do think DF John probably knows something, not that he'll say exactly what at this point. The DF crew have many contacts in the industry. Remember they kept quiet about Series S for months despite various aspects about it leaking before its trailer leaked entirely. The tweet could easily be a double bluff - does he actually know something, nah he's just riffing off a Nintendo tweet from years ago (etc) when it could easily be a bit of both!

Anyway... I look forward to hearing some actual Switch 2 news 😁
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That was because MS actually showed it to them, and made them sign an NDA. Actually really clever by MS.

That and the Series S was the worst kept secret in the industry.
 
Apenknul said:
I really wonder what furukawa's thought are about promoting the system in such short time, if its late may, however, September is something I won't completely rule out, but May does have more time to get more sales from the whole year and could built something up for the holidays, I assume.
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omniryu said:
You know what? I know so little about him. Maybe if we can get to know him and his team we can get a better prediction?
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According to his Wikipedia page, Furukawa was the release manager for the Nintendo Switch. I'm not exactly sure what that entails (there was a Bloomberg article describing things in further detail but it was locked to subscribers only), but it's likely he was at least partially responsible for guiding the Switch to success with a relatively short promotional window of 4-5 months. If that's the case, I don't think he would be too worried about the Switch 2 having a similar promotional cycle.
 
dotnetguy said:
Just saying this as a long time lurker and enjoyer of this thread but I do think DF John probably knows something, not that he'll say exactly what at this point. The DF crew have many contacts in the industry. Remember they kept quiet about Series S for months despite various aspects about it leaking before its trailer leaked entirely. The tweet could easily be a double bluff - does he actually know something, nah he's just riffing off a Nintendo tweet from years ago (etc) when it could easily be a bit of both!

Anyway... I look forward to hearing some actual Switch 2 news 😁
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I've also been mostly lurking here from time to time, not so much of a person to post frequently myself, but sometimes i'll feel like leaving a comment at least.

I find it funny that you mentioned this about John from DF, because i distinctly remember in one of their DF Directs (can't remember which episode though, been a while) in the supporter Q&A segment someone asked a question about the Switch 2 and the very moment Richard asked John about his opinions regarding that question he just noped right out of it and Richard chuckled a bit. At that point i was 100% convinced they must know something. haha

While i'm not getting my hopes up for news, leaks or rumors for this month, February will be an interesting month, as it's the typical month of the Nintendo Direct. We'll get a general idea what Nintendo has planned for this year when the Direct happens. I'm personally expecting to see a lot of Remakes, Remasteres, low-budget/low-profile stuff as well as release dates for the games that were previously announced without a date. Nintendo is saving all the big game announcements for when they'll reveal the successor properly. (Or afterwards, like with the Switch's January 2017 presentation)
 
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
 
Ashen_foefoe said:
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
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That doesn't even make sense.

Also we heard from Nate saying he hasn't heard of the 8GB number but 12GB and MAYBE even 16GB.
 
Ashen_foefoe said:
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
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From my point of knowledge (which might, or might not be outdated), there was no rumoring/hinting at the size of the built-in storage, and the rumblings about RAM are "above 8". No idea about the screen refresh rate or the battery life.
 
Ashen_foefoe said:
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
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“The market” nothing as usual

In addition, since Switch has never been upgraded significantly since its launch, the market expects that Nintendo is likely to launch a new generation of products in the second half of this year, and some hardware specifications will also evolve, including the processor to be equipped with NVIDIA's T239 chip and equipped with 8GB RA. With M and 64GB of storage space, the battery life will also be greatly improved, and the screen update rate will be increased to 120Hz.
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Ashen_foefoe said:
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
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I remember someone told me an unconfirmed rumor about Nintendo having made their own frame-gen for the Switch 2 and with it having VRR. It likely didn't mean anything because... like... no, but it'd be cool if the 120hz screen and Frame-gen tech were both true.
 
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Ashen_foefoe said:
So can we assume this is incorrect and way off of what we know?
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任天堂Switch漲價 有助舒緩鴻準、原相等成本壓力...推升毛利率 | 科技產業 | 產業 | 經濟日報

業界盛傳，日本遊戲機大廠任天堂預計今年推出新款Switch搶市，同時因應全球通膨、日圓不振等壓力，新品價格將破天荒大漲價...
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"Taiwanese Economic Forum reports the Nintendo Switch 2 will have a 120Hz screen and improved battery life, but only 8GB of ram and 64GB of Storage"
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From what I know and reported already, yes.. discard this
8 GB RAM and 64 GB as a baseline storage are both discarded from my sources since ever
 
Though, honestly, built-in storage is the easiest way for Nintendo to cheap out and save some money. At least regarding the amount/size.

But with today's game sizes even for single player games (LOOKING AT YOU, JEDI SURVIVOR), they shouldn't go under 256.
 
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