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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 192 57.8%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 39 11.7%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 50 15.1%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 24 7.2%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 27 8.1%
  • Total voters
    332
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ILikeFeet said:
Less a remaster and more of just fixing the problems. It's not a crazy thing to do as studios call on other companies to assist with programming and rendering. But they don't need Drake to fix the myriad of problems. Even if fixed, Pokemon is far from the most impressive Switch game to start with
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Yeah, I feel like there are multiple studios like red button that could help with optimization but over a year later and the gam doesn't run any better and in some areas now runs worse
 
With timing for DK I do think it's tough to find a window for it in 2024. IMO this game would be too highly anticipated to waste on the Switch when Nintendo could use it as an incentive to help hype up the Switch 2's exclusive library. I could see a situation where 2024 sees something like a DKCR remaster for Switch, with a mainline DK coming to Switch 2 in 2025.

Even though that would be later from the park opening, it is worth mentioning a 2nd version of the DK theme park is also opening summer 2025 in Orlando too so the land will still be attracting attention.
 
Darkred401 said:
Yeah, I feel like there are multiple studios like red button that could help with optimization but over a year later and the gam doesn't run any better and in some areas now runs worse
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Not familiar with Red Button, but I was thinking companies like Silicon Studios, who specialize in development tools and engine building/optimization
 
Gartooth said:
With timing for DK I do think it's tough to find a window for it in 2024. IMO this game would be too highly anticipated to waste on the Switch when Nintendo could use it as an incentive to help hype up the Switch 2's exclusive library. I could see a situation where 2024 sees something like a DKCR remaster for Switch, with a mainline DK coming to Switch 2 in 2025.

Even though that would be later from the park opening, it is worth mentioning a 2nd version of the DK theme park is also opening summer 2025 in Orlando too so the land will still be attracting attention.
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I think you can argue the opposite, that a new Donkey Kong would be the perfect Switch 1 holiday title alongside the Pokemon Gen 5 remake.
 
Darkred401 said:
Sorry I meant panic button not red button lol, they ported the doom games, apex legends, warframe, and rocket league to switch
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ah, I'm familiar with Panic Button, I don't mean porting studios because GF's problem is more fundamental than this, hence why I suggested a studio who tackles a more specific problem

goldrogerii said:
Silicon Studios worked on SV. They are credited under Research and Development Partners.
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GF needs to pay them more then
 
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Tyrien said:
The calm before the storm.

Has Nintendo given up on making new mobile games? I thought we were supposed to get more.
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As we know, Nintendo's mobile games have not done well enough.
It is no exaggeration to say that they gave up on mobile when they essentially ended Mario Kart Tour.

ziggyrivers said:
I'm especially waiting for that Zelda game
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If Zelda Mobile is ever released it will be a Dragalia reskin or a Pokemon GO clone, but that will never happen lol.
 
Tyrien said:
The calm before the storm.

Has Nintendo given up on making new mobile games? I thought we were supposed to get more.
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I think the switch is popular enough to not need the income from Mobile. I wonder if Mario Kart and Dr. Mario didn't do well and they realigned their priorities.
 
I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't be sad if Nintendo stopped making mobile games, I rather they put 100% of their gaming efforts onto the Switch 2 (Yes, I know mobile games didn't really affect much) but still.
 
Meelow said:
I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't be sad if Nintendo stopped making mobile games, I rather they put 100% of their gaming efforts onto the Switch 2 (Yes, I know mobile games didn't really affect much) but still.
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I think they will continue but on a even slower pace than they have been doing, which is adequate.
 
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Meelow said:
I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't be sad if Nintendo stopped making mobile games, I rather they put 100% of their gaming efforts onto the Switch 2 (Yes, I know mobile games didn't really affect much) but still.
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On the contrary I think MK Tour did prevent EPD 9 from doing new Mario Kart or ARMS 2 on Switch

At least it did get mined for MK8D DLC though
 
majimazio said:
As we know, Nintendo's mobile games have not done well enough.
It is no exaggeration to say that they gave up on mobile when they essentially ended Mario Kart Tour.


If Zelda Mobile is ever released it will be a Dragalia reskin or a Pokemon GO clone, but that will never happen lol.
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Dragalia Lost was actually good. A Zelda gacha game? Give it to me in my veins even though it's bad for me.

IDK I'm a like total nerd. Any sort of service game for the franchises I care for would be a nice addition because I know we'd never get a Metroid or Zelda universe RPG/MMO.
 
Tales of Arise bundled with the story DLC would make for a good launch/launch window title.
 
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JoshuaJSlone said:
I think the sales success (or lack thereof) of MK8DX and ARMS had much more to do with that.
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assuming something like ARMS would break out to crazy numbers, in hindsight, is an absolutely ridiculous expectation. I don't know what Nintendo expected, but if this was the reason they haven't made an ARMS 2, then it was a failure on their end, not the game's.

luckily, I don't think think this was the reason. ARMS still sold better than most fighting games, but being a new, multiplayer IP, it didn't have longevity. less sales, and more staying power is what's important. otherwise Anthem and Avengers would have been called successes
 
We really have no idea how they view arms internally.


Though part of this is because most companies do mass layoffs when a game underperforms but not Nintendo lol
 
Hasn't it been established in this very thread (or the Hardware one) that MK Tour was made by a fraction of the MK team, and it was mostly outsourced to Bandai? I don't see the correlation between Tour and the lack of a new MK game thus far.
 
ziggyrivers said:
Hasn't it been established in this very thread (or the Hardware one) that MK Tour was made by a fraction of the MK team, and it was mostly outsourced to Bandai? I don't see the correlation between Tour and the lack of a new MK game thus far.
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I don’t see any correlation either. As far as I think a new Mario Kart is probably done or nearly completed.
 
ziggyrivers said:
Hasn't it been established in this very thread (or the Hardware one) that MK Tour was made by a fraction of the MK team, and it was mostly outsourced to Bandai? I don't see the correlation between Tour and the lack of a new MK game thus far.
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It was a sizeable team from Nintendo working on Tour. Yes Namco-Bandai assisted again but they were not the leads nor was the game “mostly outsourced to them”.
 
Lugia667 said:
We really have no idea how they view arms internally.


Though part of this is because most companies do mass layoffs when a game underperforms but not Nintendo lol
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JoshuaJSlone said:
I think the sales success (or lack thereof) of MK8DX and ARMS had much more to do with that.
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I clearly remember Yabuki mentioning that ARMS met Nintendo’s sales expectations. If it did bomb, they wouldn’t have asked for an ARMS character in Smash at all. So I’m not sure how this “ARMS was a failure” narrative started (here, on Era, & other more mainstream social media platforms).

Remember, it’s a fighting game. Very few of them sell anywhere close to 10 million without a big licensed brand attached, especially outside of the Big 4 (SF, Tekken, MK, & Smash).
 
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ARMS sold well but I think the priority for the team is to get ASAP next MK game, then be full in for next ARMS.

So I can see next ARMS game be a 2027 game, that would be 10 years after original lol.
 
LoneRanger said:
ARMS sold well but I think the priority for the team is to get ASAP next MK game, then be full in for next ARMS.

So I can see next ARMS game be a 2027 game, that would be 10 years after original lol.
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If EPD 9 is to work on the game, probably. But if that Studio 2 3D action game with “remastered backgrounds” is ARMS 2, they could be employing a similar strategy as Pikmin 4 in that they outsource some of their smaller internal franchises.
 
Dark Cloud said:
I don’t see any correlation either. As far as I think a new Mario Kart is probably done or nearly completed.
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i've felt this way for a while.

the only thing is they probably want to stagger the release after launch if there's something big in the first 6 months, like Spring 2025. hopefully we still see it in the reveal.
 
Arms feels like a one off tbh. Might have sold more than the average fighting game, but it's had way less staying power
 
The "problem" with new Nintendo IPs is that online discourse only counts them if they're ambitious (no Ring Fit Adventure somehow despite it being in-house and being the best selling turn-based RPG ever, outside of Pokemon), in-house (no Astral Chain, despite Nintendo directly commissioning Platinum with a new IP that targets difficulty), single-player (no ARMS), or whatever random nonsense.

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karmitt said:
I’m going to be so upset if MK9 (or whatever they end up calling it) doesn’t have anti-grav tracks.
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Mario Kart, outside of Double Dash (and even then kinda not really with 8 Deluxe), feels like the Ur-series where every major mechanic is kept, like how bikes from Wii stayed and gliding/underwater from 7 stayed. 9 might change things up, we don't know, but it's probably not gonna change too drastically.
 
ARMS has to compete for attention against a franchise that has an audience over 20x larger than it. Unless they can do both at the same time (with an external studio helping on ARMS) then I don't see it happening until mid-gen at best once they've launched the next Mario Kart.

I think that 2.7m number it did is like "fine" enough that a sequel wouldn't be a turbo bomb, but it is such a low priority for them. Especially when it did over 2m in that first year meaning it had really bad staying power with people to not even get to 3m.
 
Evil Lucario said:
Mario Kart, outside of Double Dash (and even then kinda not really with 8 Deluxe), feels like the Ur-series where every major mechanic is kept, like how bikes from Wii stayed and gliding/underwater from 7 stayed. 9 might change things up, we don't know, but it's probably not gonna change too drastically.
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I’m hopeful, but I kind of cynically assumed the anti-gravity aspect was a means of taking a bit from FZero, both appeasing fans, and given that they weren’t eager to revive the franchise. The fact that FZero tracks were added later only made me more cynical.

If FZero does return, that mechanic might feel a little redundant. I’m likely overthinking it.
 
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Gartooth said:
ARMS has to compete for attention against a franchise that has an audience over 20x larger than it. Unless they can do both at the same time (with an external studio helping on ARMS) then I don't see it happening until mid-gen at best once they've launched the next Mario Kart.

I think that 2.7m number it did is like "fine" enough that a sequel wouldn't be a turbo bomb, but it is such a low priority for them. Especially when it did over 2m in that first year meaning it had really bad staying power with people to not even get to 3m.
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honestly glad that them releasing MK8D allowed them to try something new
 
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Gartooth said:
ARMS has to compete for attention against a franchise that has an audience over 20x larger than it. Unless they can do both at the same time (with an external studio helping on ARMS) then I don't see it happening until mid-gen at best once they've launched the next Mario Kart.

I think that 2.7m number it did is like "fine" enough that a sequel wouldn't be a turbo bomb, but it is such a low priority for them. Especially when it did over 2m in that first year meaning it had really bad staying power with people to not even get to 3m.
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It helps that Mario Kart is a once-per-generation franchise. But yeah, it’s either Studio 2 taking the lead (which is a very real possibility, especially after the success of Pikmin 4 under Eighting) or ARMS 2 not starting until after MK10 (Tour is apparently 9) is out.
 
I doubt we see an arms 2 at all. The teams gonna be all in on Mario kart dlc for the whole switch 2 generation. Maybe a new ip somewhere in the middle
 
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What would be your ideal semi-realistic lauch based entirely on what has been rumored or frequently speculated? Mine

RDR2 (rumored), BG3 (speculated based on some rumors), elden ring (pure speculation), 3D Mario (rumored), Ridge Racer 8 (rumored), Metroid Prime 4 (crossgen) MH Wilds
 
Sander RX said:
What would be your ideal semi-realistic lauch based entirely on what has been rumored or frequently speculated? Mine

RDR2 (rumored), BG3 (speculated based on some rumors), elden ring (pure speculation), 3D Mario (rumored), Ridge Racer 8 (rumored), Metroid Prime 4 (crossgen) MH Wilds
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I say launch month physical only titles that will not have an already released Switch 1 SKU (Example: a Mortal Kombat 1 Switch 2 SKU)

3D Mario (Nintendo)
Non-enthusiastic game (Nintendo)
Assasins Creed Red (Ubisoft)
Just Dance (Ubisoft)
COD (Activision-Blizzard)
FC Sports/Madden (EA)
NBA 2k (2K Games/Take-Two)
Red Dead Redemption 2 (Rockstar/Take-Two)
Ridge Racer 8 (Bandai-Namco)
Visions of Mana (Square-Enix)
Super Monkey Ball (Sega)
Street Fighter VI (Capcom)
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero (Bandai-Namco)
Metaphor: ReFantazio (Atlus/Sega)
 
Sander RX said:
What would be your ideal semi-realistic lauch based entirely on what has been rumored or frequently speculated? Mine

RDR2 (rumored), BG3 (speculated based on some rumors), elden ring (pure speculation), 3D Mario (rumored), Ridge Racer 8 (rumored), Metroid Prime 4 (crossgen) MH Wilds
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Golden Sun Dark Dawn remake/ new game (Hope), Tales of Arise (Speculation), Baldur's Gate 3 (Optimizations for Series S should help), Neon color game (Speculation).
 
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LoneRanger said:
I say launch month physical only titles that will not have an already released Switch 1 SKU (Example: a Mortal Kombat 1 Switch 2 SKU)

3D Mario (Nintendo)
Non-enthusiastic game (Nintendo)
Assasins Creed Red (Ubisoft)
Just Dance (Ubisoft)
COD (Activision-Blizzard)
FC Sports/Madden (EA)
NBA 2k (2K Games/Take-Two)
Red Dead Redemption 2 (Rockstar/Take-Two)
Ridge Racer 8 (Bandai-Namco)
Visions of Mana (Square-Enix)
Super Monkey Ball (Sega)
Street Fighter VI (Capcom)
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero (Bandai-Namco)
Metaphor: ReFantazio (Atlus/Sega)
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This seems both very exciting and well within the realm of possibility.

What does non-enthusiastic game mean though? Something “casual” like 1-2 Switch?

Also I seem to have missed any Super Monkey Ball rumors.
 
So what is the assumed format for this next year?
First a smaller direct giving info on switch games more remakes and remasters.
Then an introduction video, and press release with a press conference date, for the switch 2.
 
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