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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 192 57.8%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 39 11.7%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 50 15.1%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 24 7.2%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 27 8.1%
  • Total voters
    332
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GBA was amazing to hold, but did suck it didn’t have lighting. Then came the SP…which I doesn’t feel as good in my hands, but did have the light.
 
Neoxon said:
The free dessert analogy is mostly to illustrate that they don’t take away from anyone else in terms of development resources. So if you’re bringing back the original counterpart (Ex: Marth), there’s no reason not to also bring back the echo (Ex: Lucina).
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Kinda ironic to use an example who lost his first clone. And especially with FE populated as highly as it is, I really doubt we don't lose at least one of the three characters spun off from Marth's moveset when the axe comes down.

From a development standpoint, no, it wouldn't be hard to bring a clone back. From a priority standpoint though, clones are seen as expendable to a much higher degree. Like how you can still have a proper meal without a dessert. That's just how Smash has worked so far. So again, it's logically valid what you're saying, but it goes against precedent, it goes against how Smash has treated derivative characters.

Clones are typically a disproportionately high presence among cuts (when they happen) so if that changes next time, it will be unprecedented. And therefore I think the status quo has more credence here. Though I think we'll see more original characters cut than normal too (just because there are so many now).
 
qwerp said:
like how wii fit was a new ip, sure. Im not down playing it, but come on. When people say, "we want new nintendo IPs", they don't mean a new fitness game franchise.
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I don’t think that’s fair. If it sells as well as ring fit did then obviously people do want IP like ring fit adventure.
I understand that it may not be for you, but it seems to be a great IP for a big Demographic.
 
Rooster said:
Kinda ironic to use an example who lost his first clone. And especially with FE populated as highly as it is, I really doubt we don't lose at least one of the three characters spun off from Marth's moveset when the axe comes down.

From a development standpoint, no, it wouldn't be hard to bring a clone back. From a priority standpoint though, clones are seen as expendable to a much higher degree. Like how you can still have a proper meal without a dessert. That's just how Smash has worked so far. So again, it's logically valid what you're saying, but it goes against precedent, it goes against how Smash has treated derivative characters.

Clones are typically a disproportionately high presence among cuts (when they happen) so if that changes next time, it will be unprecedented. And therefore I think the status quo has more credence here. Though I think we'll see more original characters cut than normal too (just because there are so many now).
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But that’s the thing, the amount of effort saved by not bringing back the echo won’t amount into any substantial saving of resources. So again, if you’re already going to bring back the original counterpart, it shouldn’t be any trouble to bring back the echo as well. Or at least that’s how it was portrayed by Sakurai, even to the point of allowing you to stack the echoes with their original variants. For example: If Marth returns, so will Lucina. But if Roy is cut, Chrom will be as well.

Your argument would be more applicable to non-echo clones like Dr. Mario/Pichu/Roy, characters who are derivative of others but require much more work than your average echo fighter. This would also apply to Isabelle, but she’s far too popular to ever be removed from the roster. Barring a massive downturn for Animal Crossing, Isabelle is pretty much safe for the rest of Smash’s existence.
 
lemonfresh said:
gba sp was not a pro version?
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Joe said:
Does the SP not count?
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Pro version means more powerful than the base model, with exclusive features and titles exclusive to said model (GBC, DSi, New 3DS)

Regardless I don't really think a pro model will happen because having developers target 4 profiles would be absolute hell, and was likely one of the main reason the Switch 1 Pro model was canned.

And more importantly, unlike the Switch 1, there is no future technology on the horizon that would allow for a revision to be more powerful or to save battery life in any significant way.
Which isn't really problem, Drake is built to last.
 
Meelow said:
I thought we already went over this.

Super Nintendo Switch/Nintendo Super Switch sounds like an enhanced Switch Pro
Switch 2 sounds like a successor.

People are dumb, no point making it cute.
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Really depends on how its marketed
If its called nintendo super switch, has a very similar design, and similar logo, some people would get confused, and think its a pro or some limited edition bank account eater.

Another scenerio:

Its called Nintendo Super Switch, yet has a radically different joy-con design, immediatly noticeable new logo, and advertisements pointing out how new is, It would be obvious to even the most permanently offline grandparent that this is a new console.

You could make that exact same argument for the gameboy advanced and 3ds, they have similar names, yet the way they presented themselves was eons apart from their predecessors, and people knew right away they were completely new hardware.
 
Saturnman789 said:
Really depends on how its marketed
If its called nintendo super switch, has a very similar design, and similar logo, some people would get confused, and think its a pro or some limited edition bank account eater.

Another scenerio:

Its called Nintendo Super Switch, yet has a radically different joy-con design, immediatly noticeable new logo, and advertisements pointing out how new is, It would be obvious to even the most permanently offline grandparent that this is a new console.

You could make that exact same argument for the gameboy advanced and 3ds, they have similar names, yet the way they presented themselves was eons apart from their predecessors, and people knew right away they were completely new hardware.
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Issue with that is it would be hard to name the Switch 3 If Nintendo chooses to stick with it.
 
Meelow said:
Issue with that is it would be hard to name the Switch 3 If Nintendo chooses to stick with it.
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I think switch 3 will just have an entirely new name, like how sega always did with their consoles
Nintendo Titan, Nintendo Infinity (Infinite ways to play!) etc
 
I really wonder how viable the cutesy names are going forward. It made sense for the consoles released under Iwata, since the market was supposed to be bigger, but I just can't really think of any reason to call this thing anything but a Switch 2. Sure, with good marketing and design you could make a different name work, but why take the risk? Seems unnecessary

With that said, I'm totally down for the Nintendo Titan
 
Kingpin Rogers said:
Nintendo Wave.

Just came up with it now but I genuinely love it
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I just got a new oled so im in no rush for switch 2, maybe I will wait a bit until its library is built up
 
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Apologies, as I've asked this in the hardware thread already, but thought I'd ask here since the original thread was divided.

Anyone here has Nintendo stock? If you do, can you please DM me if you don't mind. I have a few qs.

Apologies for the offtopic.
 
Please do not ask SC for financial advice, he is extremely bad at it if this is not a bit.

Buy 8-13 week US Treasury Bills until the rate of return drops a decent bit and then go back to Index Funds.
 
I wasn't active in the leaks/speculation scene back at the Switch launch, had ANYONE guessed that name? I remember seeing the youtube reveal and being really surprised at it, AFAIK that NX stood for something.
 
zumaddy said:
I wasn't active in the leaks/speculation scene back at the Switch launch, had ANYONE guessed that name? I remember seeing the youtube reveal and being really surprised at it, AFAIK that NX stood for something.
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There's someone on Reddit who is on record for guessing the name, but if I remember correctly, there was no name that was widely agreed upon in a "yeah, Nintendo is totally calling it this" sense. But I remember Nintendo Cross being a thing occasionally tossed around, as well as Nintendo Fusion despite that rumor predating the NX announcement.
 
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Wtfpigeons said:
I don’t think that’s fair. If it sells as well as ring fit did then obviously people do want IP like ring fit adventure.
I understand that it may not be for you, but it seems to be a great IP for a big Demographic.
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It's an IP that replaced Wii Fit. It's nowhere near as exciting as Splatoon.
 
I'm not sure what the point would be in releasing a version with BC and one without, unless Nintendo is actually dropping a TX1 chip into the Switch 2 to accomplish the backwards compatibility, which the hardware thread has already gone into detail about why that would be insane.
 
OctoSplattack said:
I'm not sure what the point would be in releasing a version with BC and one without, unless Nintendo is actually dropping a TX1 chip into the Switch 2 to accomplish the backwards compatibility, which the hardware thread has already gone into detail about why that would be insane.
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I feel like people will go for the cheaper non bc model and then nintendo has a reason to sell you upgraded switch ports again. Smash Ultimate deluxe and mario kart 8 deluxe plus looking like a reality
 
lemonfresh said:
I feel like people will go for the cheaper non bc model and then nintendo has a reason to sell you upgraded switch ports again. Smash Ultimate deluxe and mario kart 8 deluxe plus looking like a reality
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Unless the non bc is significantly cheaper and more wildly available, most people will opts for the premium model. We've seen this virtually every time a company puts out multiple skus at launch.
 
Pressing X to doubt hard on launching with a “No BC” model. Or ever doing that? That would be inelegant and weird in current year.
 
lemonfresh said:
I feel like people will go for the cheaper non bc model and then nintendo has a reason to sell you upgraded switch ports again. Smash Ultimate deluxe and mario kart 8 deluxe plus looking like a reality
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Sure, but... wouldn't that be wasteful? Like, in past instances of them doing something like that, the old chip had jobs other than BC. Devs could make use of that extra chip to do other stuff, like the GBA using the Sharp LR35902 for additional sound processing and such in addition to playing GB/GBC games. And even when later revisions removed BC, the chip still stayed so devs could continue to leverage it. In this scenario, devs wouldn't be able to use the TX1 for extra muscle, because they wouldn't be guaranteed that all users would be playing with a system that has one. Doing backwards compatibility like that seems like a waste of money as is when they could opt for some sort of software compatibility layer, and seems like even more of a waste if that's all the chip will be used for due to the SKU split.
 
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It would be the most boneheaded Nintendo decision I've ever seen IF the Nintendo Wave is not backwards compatible on the E-shop level. Why would Nintendo put so much effort into ports, remakes, and NSO VC if it had no plans for you to get the next console, immediately connect to the E-Shop and download your digital Switch games. It would be a MEGA waste.

The physical cartridge slot for the switch can be axed. People won't like it but that's not the most important bit. The above is.

I'd support a physical -> Digital initiative in that case. Maybe a deal with gamestop where you trade your Switch physical copy in and give you a 75% voucher for a digital copy of the same game. Gamestop then ships back to Nintendo. Costly but the fans will appreciate it and thats what matters at the end of the day.
 
Shareholder Chad said:
It would be the most boneheaded Nintendo decision I've ever seen IF the Nintendo Wave is not backwards compatible on the E-shop level. Why would Nintendo put so much effort into ports, remakes, and NSO VC if it had no plans for you to get the next console, immediately connect to the E-Shop and download your digital Switch games. It would be a MEGA waste.

The physical cartridge slot for the switch can be axed. People won't like it but that's not the most important bit. The above is.

I'd support a physical -> Digital initiative in that case. Maybe a deal with gamestop where you trade your Switch physical copy in and give you a 75% voucher for a digital copy of the same game. Gamestop then ships back to Nintendo. Costly but the fans will appreciate it and thats what matters at the end of the day.
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Nintendo won't be getting rid of the cartridge slot next gen.
 
Ring Fit Adventure was just as exciting as Splatoon. I remember at the time it was hype having a fitness rpg game. A new turn based rpg was a welcome addition.
 
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qwerp said:
Nintendo won't be getting rid of the cartridge slot next gen.
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Let me clarify, I don't think the next system will be digital only. My post was meant in the scenario, Nintendo changes the physical cart type which would require two physical slots to be on the system, One for Switch, One for the Nintendo wave

If they don't change the type, Then of course itll be there. There WILL be one lol
 
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The only "plausible" reason given for removing the game card slot would be to save costs on physical game cards by encouraging digital, but that completely discounts the very apparent reality that Nintendo sells a lot of physical copies. Why would Nintendo want to cut off this revenue stream?
 
InsaneZero said:
The only "plausible" reason given for removing the game card slot would be to save costs on physical game cards by encouraging digital, but that completely discounts the very apparent reality that Nintendo sells a lot of physical copies. Why would Nintendo want to cut off this revenue stream?
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Yeah, now is not the time for Nintendo to go all digital just yet. Depending on how this next generation pans out, its possible that the Switch 3 will be digital only, but we will just have to wait and see.
 
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Yeah Im not looking foward to a all digital future, im glad nintendo is still looking they are going to keep physical for a while at least. I feel like sony and microsoft will be transitioning much faster
 
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lemonfresh said:


No bc? Sounds like a good reason for Nintendo to release more upgraded switch ports on switch 2
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To be clear, even in the video Nick very clearly specifies that he thinks his source meant "a digitally only model that wouldn't have BC with switch 1 carts" not "switch 2 that cant even play digital Switch 1 games".

InsaneZero said:
The only "plausible" reason given for removing the game card slot would be to save costs on physical game cards by encouraging digital, but that completely discounts the very apparent reality that Nintendo sells a lot of physical copies. Why would Nintendo want to cut off this revenue stream?
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Nintendo sells a lot of phsyical copies but it's not like nintendo hasn't already been encouraging digital purchases over physical purchases in many cases. MPR and Pikmin1+2 both had earlier release dates for digital versions with barely any physicaln copies made for MPR. Voucher system very clearly is to get the consumers to buy digital.
 
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