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Already tarnished.Nintendo Wave.
Just came up with it now but I genuinely love it
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Already tarnished.Nintendo Wave.
Just came up with it now but I genuinely love it
Looking back, I think it was Engage that was finished then. The rumor in 2021 that says the FE4 remake is close to being finished in 2021 comes from Zippo, so never mind on it being definitive, lol. Either way, the rumor of a FE remake has been circling since 2019. In 2024, that would be 5 years. I'm certain they've been sitting on this since 2021 or something like that, much like how they sat on Prime 1 Remastered and how they've been sitting on the ports of Prime 2, 3, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess for possibly even longer.There is no chance they were done with FE4 Remake since 2021, what?
The big thing about FE4 Remake not being before Fall 2024 is... Why not announce it at their pre-TGS Direct if so?
I never said 2021 was when the game was finished, I’m just going off of what Nate said in his post-September Direct podcast. And again, Nintendo can very easily announce the game in a February Direct & release it within the summer. The Switch 2 likely won’t be revealed until March or so, they still have time to announce Switch 1 games. Plus Switch 1 support won’t magically disappear once the Switch 2 is revealed.There is no chance they were done with FE4 Remake since 2021, what?
The big thing about FE4 Remake not being before Fall 2024 is... Why not announce it at their pre-TGS Direct if so?
TTYD HD is such a weird one last thing if there’s literally anything big launching in Q2.
There are layers to this. In the interview Tei (the director) said that that the game was design for an audience that are new to SRPGs i.e a younger audience that the usual FE players, hence the choice of Mika Pikazo as an artist.Perhaps I should’ve put allegedly, but most of the decisions made with Engage were to expand the Fire Emblem audience. And by the numbers we have so far, it failed to do so.
Of course, Engage didn’t bomb by any stretch of the imagination. Over a million units in the first few months is solid for Fire Emblem. But it likely fell short of what Nintendo & IS were hoping for based on what we know from interviews, especially when Three Houses crossed the 4 million barrier.
I feel like the first direct will be the switch 2 reveal eventI definitely think FE4 will be announced in the first direct of 2024.
Furukawa implied they weren't going to show off new hardware until the fiscal year was over. If they're gonna show it off in a Direct, it'd probably have to be the one in June (unless they just skip the February Direct or something)I feel like the first direct will be the switch 2 reveal event
do you have the quote?Furukawa implied they weren't going to show off new hardware until the fiscal year was over. If they're gonna show it off in a Direct, it'd probably have to be the one in June (unless they just skip the February Direct or something)
If you're referring to the recent Fukuwara interview, the one where he said Nintendo will continue to release Switch 1 games into FY2025 (the FY after FY2024 which ends March 2024), I don't think he implied that anywhere.Furukawa implied they weren't going to show off new hardware until the fiscal year was over. If they're gonna show it off in a Direct, it'd probably have to be the one in June (unless they just skip the February Direct or something)
He specifically said that this fiscal year was focused on the Switch. That doesn't necessarily mean new hardware won't be mentioned before the end of the March. Talking about the next system in February doesn't overshadow the fact that the previous eleven months will have been all about Zelda, Pikmin, and Mario; in the same way that a Direct saying that it's focused on games releasing in a certain timeframe will always have a few more far-out releases mixed in. Focused ≠ Only.Furukawa implied they weren't going to show off new hardware until the fiscal year was over. If they're gonna show it off in a Direct, it'd probably have to be the one in June (unless they just skip the February Direct or something)
It's hard to say because we only have translated tidbits of a foreign-language interview that's behind a paywall, but it seems like a dodge to me. Furukawa was directly asked about a successor to the Switch, and his response was to say that their focus will stay on the current console through the end of this FY. There's layers of business-talk here but he appears to be hinting at the fact that we shouldn't expect much of anything at least until April, and his later comment about "still" supporting the Switch through FY2025 also feeds into this (though I admit this is open to interpretation)If you're referring to the recent Fukuwara interview, the one where he said Nintendo will continue to release Switch 1 games into FY2025 (the FY after FY2024 which ends March 2024), I don't think he implied that anywhere.
His specific wording (according to the source below) was "expanding the Nintendo Switch business". To me, that does not sound like a situation that could coexist with the reveal of a new platform (save, say, mentioning it in shareholders meeting or something like that). But then again, things might be lost in translationHe specifically said that this fiscal year was focused on the Switch. That doesn't necessarily mean new hardware won't be mentioned before the end of the March. Talking about the next system in February doesn't overshadow the fact that the previous eleven months will have been all about Zelda, Pikmin, and Mario; in the same way that a Direct saying that it's focused on games releasing in a certain timeframe will always have a few more far-out releases mixed in. Focused ≠ Only.
His statement about "expanding Switch 1 business" can still be true at the same time as revealing Switch 2 at some point before April 2024 (if Nintendo chooses to do so). It's not incompatible, not mutually exclusive.It's hard to say because we only have translated tidbits of a foreign-language interview that's behind a paywall, but it seems like a dodge to me. Furukawa was directly asked about a successor to the Switch, and his response was to say that their focus will stay on the current console through the end of this FY. There's layers of business-talk here but he appears to be hinting at the fact that we shouldn't expect much of anything at least until April, and his later comment about "still" supporting the Switch through FY2025 also feeds into this (though I admit this is open to interpretation)
His specific wording (according to the source below) was "expanding the Nintendo Switch business". To me, that does not sound like a situation that could coexist with the reveal of a new platform (save, say, mentioning it in shareholders meeting or something like that). But then again, things might be lost in translation
Source: https://en.as.com/meristation/news/...-will-continue-to-release-games-until-2025-n/
This is just a disagreement, because I totally think it is. Once the Switch 2 is revealed people are gonna start caring less about the Switch 1. It's gonna be nigh impossible to keep momentum up for the thing when the new, shiny console is already on the horizon. This is why the reveal to release window has been getting smaller and smaller as the information age has progressed. To Nintendo, it's more profitable to keep people in the dark about the new console for as long as possibleHis statement about "expanding Switch 1 business" can still be true at the same time as revealing Switch 2 at some point before April 2024 (if Nintendo chooses to do so). It's not incompatible, not mutually exclusive.
We've went over that theory many times here.This is just a disagreement, because I totally think it is. Once the Switch 2 is revealed people are gonna start caring less about the Switch 1. It's gonna be nigh impossible to keep momentum up for the thing when the new, shiny console is already on the horizon. This is why the reveal to release window has been getting smaller and smaller as the information age has progressed. To Nintendo, it's more profitable to keep people in the dark about the new console for as long as possible
No, but as Furukawa also says in the interview, they're not only focusing on new customers, but on second units and replacements, and they would totally lose out on essentially all of those sales. But just on a deeper level, I don't think there's much to be theorized about. The Switch is clearly winding down, but its sales are still good and Nintendo aren't itching to get it off their backs like they were with the Wii U. The chance to keep selling the thing a while longer and push the Switch 2 into a prime Holiday 2024 spot is too good to pass up. And you don't really need to believe any of my theories regarding the shrinkage of the reveal to release window to acknowledge that it's happening, and that it would be weird and unmotivated for Nintendo to break the pattern. Just my opinion though and tbh I just like the interactions on hereWe've went over that theory many times here.
Anyone who have held out the entire time and are only now thinking of getting Switch 1 at discount (that's what bundles are.. you get Switch for equivalent of $240 dollars, with $60 game) is not going to suddenly want a Switch 2.
Switch 2 will be bought up by early adopters (most folks here probably meet that definition) and unfortunately scalpers. Joe Regulars aren't going to drop the plan to get Switch 1 for their kids or themselves this holiday season.
Two different crowds.
Either way, I hope you realize that Switch sales doing well now (even if it's better than expected) is not going to materialistically affect the Switch 2 release timeline, which I'm almost certain they have already mostly solidified by now. Not as in release date set, but the general timeline over the rest of 2023 and the year 2024.The Switch is clearly winding down, but its sales are still good and Nintendo aren't itching to get it off their backs like they were with the Wii U.
What patterns are you referring to when you say it would be breaking the pattern?The chance to keep selling the thing a while longer and push the Switch 2 into a prime Holiday 2024 spot is too good to pass up. And you don't really need to believe any of my theories regarding the shrinkage of the reveal to release window to acknowledge that it's happening, and that it would be weird and unmotivated for Nintendo to break the pattern. Just my opinion though and tbh I just like the interactions on here
I think that Engage probably did just fine as far as expectations go. It wasn't a flop by any means, even if it's not going to sell as much as TH did.There are layers to this. In the interview Tei (the director) said that that the game was design for an audience that are new to SRPGs i.e a younger audience that the usual FE players, hence the choice of Mika Pikazo as an artist.
There is nuance to 3 houses comparison: they were developed around the same time with the goal of hitting different audiences to see what they should do going forward. Coming out of the success of the 3DS titles, they wanted to experiment and because it came out after 3H (it was gonna release a year after, since they were targeting 2020, from a Nintendo Dream Interview) considering Engage a response to 3H in combat, story, etc is foolish to assume.
Sure 3H reached 4 million but like all game sales there is context, it was the first FE (non warriors) on switch and its been 4 years since then (and in a ton of Nintendo sales, 3H has been one of the prominent titles). Engage has barely been out a year and like 3H after its first quarters, we will only get new data on the CESA papers.
To say the game failed to expand the audience is unwarranted, unless we have the data of the audience it reached and their target number. Will Engage reach 4 million, probably not, we are in the end of the life of the switch, its a stacked year and w-o-m are factors that will impact it longer term. So unless Nintendo and IS, explicitly say the game did not reach their expectations, we will have to wait a couple of years to see where the sales lands.
So one version with it and the other (I assume digital only) without it even though Nintendo Switch Online accounts exist and the version with BC can use it, presumably with digital games along with physical games?I wouldn’t listen to him. Doesn’t he get everything wrong related to Nintendo?
I don't necessarily mean Switch sales doing well now, as in, this precise moment in time, just the continuos overperformance of it over the years may have motivated Nintendo to take their time. Essentially, if Nintendo is feeling the timecrunch now, it's cause they didn't plan ahead, and I doubt that's the case.Either way, I hope you realize that Switch sales doing well now (even if it's better than expected) is not going to materialistically affect the Switch 2 release timeline, which I'm almost certain they have already mostly solidified by now. Not as in release date set, but the general timeline over the rest of 2023 and the year 2024.
What patterns are you referring to when you say it would be breaking the pattern?
This is why I prefer to talk about 'new franchises' or 'series' rather than 'new IP.' I feel that when people say they want Nintendo to work on new IP, they usually mean games that can be iterated upon in the long term and (hopefully) carry their fanbase forward to future consoles, not games that are built around a specific peripheral. This is what separates new IPs like Wii Fit or Labo from the likes of Splatoon.I don’t think that’s fair. If it sells as well as ring fit did then obviously people do want IP like ring fit adventure.
I understand that it may not be for you, but it seems to be a great IP for a big Demographic.
Revealing in Q1 2024 - like say, March for example, with release date 5 months later, which means we're in FY2025 at that point - would still line up with what Furukawa says. FY2024 would have been mostly wrapped up already at that point. This won't contradict with anything Fukuwara stated in the interview.The "pattern" I'm referring to is the shortening of the amount of time between a console's reveal and its release. The Wii U, for instance, was revealed during E3 2011 and came out in late 2012. Meanwhile, all of the current gen consoles had a window of 4-5 months between their reveal and their release. What I'm basically saying is that it would be weird for Nintendo to announce the Switch 2 in late 2023 or early 2024 if it's going to launch in late 2024, you would moreso expect a reveal event in Q2, which lines up pretty well with what Furukawa said.
March might be late enough that it works, yeah. I don't want to give off the impression that I have cracked the code or anything, I think something like a May reveal is likelier but realistically anything from March to June is splitting hairsRevealing in Q1 2024 - like say, March for example, with release date 5 months later, which means we're in FY2025 at that point - would still line up with what Furukawa says. FY2024 would have been mostly wrapped up already at that point. This won't contradict with anything Fukuwara stated in the interview.
This is why I prefer to talk about 'new franchises' or 'series' rather than 'new IP.' I feel that when people say they want Nintendo to work on new IP, they usually mean games that can be iterated upon in the long term and (hopefully) carry their fanbase forward to future consoles, not games that are built around a specific peripheral. This is what separates new IPs like Wii Fit or Labo from the likes of Splatoon.
Ring Fit is certainly a highly successful new IP, but does it have franchise potential?
Metroid and Xenoblade for me thanks!Pick one launch title burger (two if you hungry)
I'm kind of a dork so I sometimes say "new worlds"This is why I prefer to talk about 'new franchises' or 'series' rather than 'new IP.' I feel that when people say they want Nintendo to work on new IP, they usually mean games that can be iterated upon in the long term and (hopefully) carry their fanbase forward to future consoles, not games that are built around a specific peripheral. This is what separates new IPs like Wii Fit or Labo from the likes of Splatoon.
I think they tried to do that with other m, didn't succeed that well but they did try to make a more narrative focused Nintendo title and was made by a third party dev team ninja.If you ask the question: Which Nintendo character outside of Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is capable of carrying a story driven title and which character would Nintendo allow enough leeway for the developer to do that? You get the answer: None of them. Which can be frustrating and some people would like to see traditionally great Nintendo gameplay paired with a great narrative. It won’t happen, but it would be nice.
They did that. It’s called Majora’s Mask.If you ask the question: Which Nintendo character outside of Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is capable of carrying a story driven title and which character would Nintendo allow enough leeway for the developer to do that? You get the answer: None of them. Which can be frustrating and some people would like to see traditionally great Nintendo gameplay paired with a great narrative. It won’t happen, but it would be nice.
WaluigiIf you ask the question: Which Nintendo character outside of Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is capable of carrying a story driven title and which character would Nintendo allow enough leeway for the developer to do that? You get the answer: None of them. Which can be frustrating and some people would like to see traditionally great Nintendo gameplay paired with a great narrative. It won’t happen, but it would be nice.
the four words reggie fears are "where is mother 3?"Bring back Earthbound
They did that. It’s called Majora’s Mask.
I agree and disagree, because hindsight is 20/20. But consider when they were in development (this is purely speculation): For Engage, lets do a anniversary game where we have the protagonist of each game, sure they might have not played them all but its a nice celebration, good vs evil story, etc. And for 3H, lets do a multi-layered war with different factions, multiple routes, choices, etc. I can sorta understand their mindset. But we now know the outcome lol.I think that Engage probably did just fine as far as expectations go. It wasn't a flop by any means, even if it's not going to sell as much as TH did.
That said, I still think it was a really weird move to try to expand the audience and attract a new crowd with an anniversary game, of all things. So much of Engage is fanservice or works a lot better if you know previous games. Three Houses seems like more of an 'expand the audience' kind of game to me, while Engage is more for the fanbase that's already onboard.
Same here, my day one DS Lite lasted until the 3DS launched and my OG 3DS lasted until the Switch. Now it's my Switch's turn to keep going until the Switch 2 is released.My day one Switch will get its well deserved rest the day Switch 2 is out. It has to make it that long at this point.
DJ Octavio.If you ask the question: Which Nintendo character outside of Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is capable of carrying a story driven title and which character would Nintendo allow enough leeway for the developer to do that?
Surprised it's not NES Hockeythe best narrative-driven nintendo-published game is chibi-robo and I'm not even close to joking
That kind of sounds like Fire Emblem: Valkyria Chronicles, lol. And I wouldn’t mind that!I agree and disagree, because hindsight is 20/20. But consider when they were in development (this is purely speculation): For Engage, lets do a anniversary game where we have the protagonist of each game, sure they might have not played them all but its a nice celebration, good vs evil story, etc. And for 3H, lets do a multi-layered war with different factions, multiple routes, choices, etc. I can sorta understand their mindset. But we now know the outcome lol.
But going forward, I guess after FE4, I wonder how experimental they will get. With the new hardware, I hope they still do some overdesign characters and battle animations. They could try a different setting: futuristic Europe lol. But the most uncertain thing is the future of their tech, 3H used KT engine and Engage was Unity, will they try to proprietary stuff or will they stick with commercial (its better for recruitment)
I'm hoping we get a re-release of this game on Switch 2 alongside many other basic GameCube ports, assuming they aren't doing some kind of NSO model for GameCube software.the best narrative-driven nintendo-published game is chibi-robo and I'm not even close to joking
the story of the big slow guy and the three skinny guys is a tearjerker but chibi robo eeks it outSurprised it's not NES Hockey
Honestly, I feel like the FE4 remake could act as a "Three Houses 2" in many ways. imo they should start fresh with the next new game, especially since it'll likely be the first Switch 2 exclusive FE and therefore the start of the next "generation" of FE.That kind of sounds like Fire Emblem: Valkyria Chronicles, lol. And I wouldn’t mind that!
Seriously, though: I’m really interested to see what the next post-Geneology Fire Emblem looks like. Because I can see where you’re coming from, and if Engage was in development somewhat alongside TH, it makes sense for them to be pretty different and appeal to different crowds, plus there’s the whole anniversary thing (and Engage was probably hit by covid complications, too).
But after Geneology (which is fairly locked-in since it’s a remake) what will the first post-Three Houses non-anniversary new Fire Emblem look like? Will they try to borrow a lot of elements from Three Houses to grab some of that audience and success? Will they try to blend the best parts of Engage with Three Houses? Or will they just try something completely new and different, since both games sold well enough and they’re not worried about that and they’ll just go off in some original and different direction?
I really have no idea.
Link has had multiple. He's voiceless but so was byleth. Lots of Zelda games have some legit stories. Link's Awakening. Wind Waker. Skyward Sword. My personal favorites. Though BOTW and TOTK had odd ways of telling it, they had stories and decent ones. Unsure how Fire Emblem gets a pass with a voiceless protagonist but Zelda doesn't (though I can easily admit Fire Emblem 3H has a way better story--not Engage by any means though).If you ask the question: Which Nintendo character outside of Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is capable of carrying a story driven title and which character would Nintendo allow enough leeway for the developer to do that? You get the answer: None of them. Which can be frustrating and some people would like to see traditionally great Nintendo gameplay paired with a great narrative. It won’t happen, but it would be nice.
Tbh, had I known sooner Switch pro wasn't going to be a thing, I probably would have upgraded to an OLED. My Switch is still chugging along, but its battery life has been poor for quite some time now because it has gone through a lot of playtime.Same here, my day one DS Lite lasted until the 3DS launched and my OG 3DS lasted until the Switch. Now it's my Switch's turn to keep going until the Switch 2 is released.
Sadly the dsveloper of the game skip went defunct years ago so I don't think soI'm hoping we get a re-release of this game on Switch 2 alongside many other basic GameCube ports, assuming they aren't doing some kind of NSO model for GameCube software.
I'm still shocked samus returns never got a hd port, prob easy to do and would have been a good early game for the Switch cause, also metroid got no games until year 5 of switchFE4 Remake would be a good cross-gen game. You shouldn't leave it to "die" on the old system like FE Echoes and Samus Returns were left.
Also, IS is a pretty good technical dev, so they definitely could up the game for ReDraketed's increased performance.
Though i'm still curious if and how they're going to change some things in the game. There's some stuff that simply doesn't fly in 2023 and with the current Nintendo.