StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

[justanotherperson]

so metroid prime 4

Super Mario Odyssey was nominated for Game of the Year, and Wonder also seems to be taking the same steps, so Mario isn't unfamilliar with being associated to these four words. On another note: With Nintendo having a near-100% chance of launching the system with a GotY contender, it makes more sense for them to release it BEFORE November, so that it gets nominated for GotY at TGA, and that's free marketing for them.

 

[justanotherperson]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

I think Super Mario Bros. Wacky Wonders would be a decent title

 

[SpaceGodzilla]

Super Mario Odyssey was nominated for Game of the Year, and Wonder also seems to be taking the same steps, so Mario isn't unfamilliar with being associated to these four words. On another note: With Nintendo having a near-100% chance of launching the system with a GotY contender, it makes more sense for them to release it BEFORE November, so that it gets nominated for GotY at TGA, and that's free marketing for them.

was mostly joking but unless GTA6 comes out next year Nintendo is near 100% getting that GOTY award next year

 

[YolkFolk]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

Hope they don’t go the Super Mario Bros Wonder 2 route.

 

[ngpdrew]

That's deceiving customers that just bought a Switch in the holidays season.

You may think Nintendo don't care, but it's their brand image at the end of the day

Even though they maybe weren't planning to buy the NG at launch, if you buy a Switch for you kid this christmas and in January they announce the next one, they will feel stupid, they have to announce before the hard holiday season if it's indeed releasing early next year.

If they release in Summer or Fall 2024, then yeah they can announce next year.

That's just the cost of doing business. You can say this for any time a company releases any new product.

"Oh, an OLED! But I just bought my Switch!"

Literally every release is going to make someone somewhere upset.

 

[Josh5890]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

Super Mario Wonder 2: Yoshi's World

 

[EvilChameleon]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

Super Mario Mr. Wonderful

 

[justanotherperson]

was mostly joking but unless GTA6 comes out next year Nintendo is near 100% getting that GOTY award next year

It's insane how Nintendo has been keeping an streak of always having at least ONE game nominated for GotY (If we forget 2018 didn't exist), with them getting two in 2017 and (potentially) this year too. When they expand their internal teams in Kyoto in 2027/2028, maybe we could see either: them winning every GotY award they're nominated, or more than one nominee every year.

Edit: Between 2015 and 2022, 8 Nintendo games were nominated for the Game of the Year award (If we count Bayo 2 as a Nintendo game). The only year they weren't nominated was 2018 because Smash came out the following day after the TGA and because, aside from Smash, Nintendo's 2018 was dogshit.

 

[MSnap]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

Super Mario Bros. Wonder Wii, Super Mario Bros. Wonder U, and then Super Mario Bros. Wonder 2.

 

[AngryAlchemist]

What if they just call it: Super Mario Bros. Wonderful

 

[Jave]

One thing I wonder about is how digital BC will be handled. I'm 99.9% sure Switch 2 will have BC, but how the eShop will work I'm more curious about. Will it be something like Wii Shop on Wii U where it's an entire different mode? Two different eShops for Switch and Switch 2 but both part of the same UI? Or one eShop where all Switch and Switch 2 games are accessible equally? I'm mostly hoping for the 3rd option, but I could see Nintendo going for one of the first two for whatever reason.

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

New Super Mario Bros. Wonder

 

[ngpdrew]

Ok I know this is too early and I'm opening a can of worms but what do you all think the sequel to Super Mario Wonder will be called?

Super Mario Bros. Think

 

[MSnap]

Super Mario Bros. Speculation

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Hope they don’t go the Super Mario Bros Wonder 2 route.

The first Super Mario Bros. series did that. The New Super Mario Bros. series did that. Why wouldn't this one?

 

[justanotherperson]

The first Super Mario Bros. series did that. The New Super Mario Bros. series did that. Why wouldn't this one?

Because it kind of backfired insanely with fans.

 

[ngpdrew]

Because it kind of backfired insanely with fans.

Did it though?

 

[lemonfresh]

I think Super Mario Bros. Wacky Wonders would be a decent title

reminds me of super mario wacky worlds

 

[justanotherperson]

Did it though?

Even though it sold insane numbers, it tainted the public's perception of side-scrolling Mario away from what Nintendo seems to want them to be: innovative fun side-scrollers for all featuring wonders in level design never executed so perfectly by a game developer. That's the image Nintendo wants to you to have of the main Mario games. That's why they always go beyond what the last installment did when it comes to his 3D outings.

 

[justanotherperson]

reminds me of super mario wacky worlds

Next 2D Mario is going to be Super Mario Bros. Origins, set completely in Brooklyn.

 

[ngpdrew]

Even though it sold insane numbers, it tainted the public's perception of side-scrolling Mario away from what Nintendo seems to want them to be: innovative fun side-scrollers for all featuring wonders in level design never executed so perfectly by a game developer. That's the image Nintendo wants to you to have of the main Mario games. That's why they always go beyond what the last installment did when it comes to his 3D outings.

Super Mario Bros 3?!

Or are you just talking NSMB?

 

[Thunder84]

If we didn’t get Odyssey 2, I doubt we get Wonder 2. They’ll probably just workshop another idea entirely.

It’s definitely an exciting time for the 2D platformer side of things though. I’m really curious to see what they do with Yoshi next, a Wonder-style equivalent to Yoshi’s Island would be awesome.

 

[justanotherperson]

Super Mario Bros 3?!

Or are you just talking NSMB?

New Super Mario Bros. series, sorry, should've cleared that up.

 

[LuckyNumber69]

GOAT Emblem: GOATeolgy of the GOAT War Remake is gonna be a GOATED crossgen launch window game for the GOATED Switch 2  and it's gonna look gorgeous visually, mark my words

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I just don't think Nintendo would want to give a game like Cyberpunk that kind of spotlight given its history with performance issues on lower-end hardware, and the uncertainty regarding the port quality that would come with it. Even if that isn't a concern for them, I doubt they'd show off a game with nudity and ultra violence in the Switch 2's reveal trailer. Skyrim is an M rated violent game, but compared to Cyberpunk it may as well be rated E10+.

I also don't agree with the idea that Final Fantasy isn't a "wtf" moment. It would be a "wtf" moment at any show, be it Xbox, Nintendo, some PC centric show, and whatever else. Seeing an IP that has had it's mainline titles deemed "exclusive" show up in the Switch 2 reveal would certainly cause people to lose their minds, especially Nintendo only gamers that haven't had the chance to play any of the newer FF games.

There is no current uncertainty with Cyberpunk on lower end hardware, it runs great on mobile hardware now.

It just was super rushed on release.

The perception that it can’t run on low end hardware is a huge reason why Nintendo will focus on it pre release most likely.

 

[lemonfresh]

GOAT Emblem: GOATeolgy of the GOAT War Remake is gonna be a GOATED crossgen launch window game for the GOATED Switch 2  and it's gonna look gorgeous visually, mark my words

so you think its going to be good? I can't tell maybe you need to add more GOATS

 

[Joy-Boy]

Next 2D Mario is going to be Super Mario Bros. Origins, set completely in Brooklyn.

Gimme a whole game based on this scene from the movie

 

[Uncle Squingis]

What do we think is going on with the rumored EPD DK game? Do you think its coming, but it’s cross gen or will be exclusive to Switch 2?

If it exists I expect it H1 2025, and if it's 2D I think it'll be crossgen.

 

[Dark Cloud]

10 pages already. This topic was needed for sure lol

 

[Deleted member 1005]

There is no current uncertainty with Cyberpunk on lower end hardware, it runs great on mobile hardware now.

It just was super rushed on release.

The perception that it can’t run on low end hardware is a huge reason why Nintendo will focus on it pre release most likely.

There really is uncertainty though, the game was fixed on Xbox Series and PS5, but it still runs like garbage on Xbox One and PS4. Nobody is going to look at a console with "the power of around a PS4" and think "oh cool Cyberpunk will run good on this". Nintendo needs to avoid any possible ways that the perspective can shift from "Cool here's a new Switch" to "Oh... it runs this game... poorly".

That's not even taking into account if Nintendo would even want to showcase a game like Cyberpunk alongside the Switch 2's reveal. They aren't Xbox or Playstation, their primary audience isn't going to resonate with a nudity and ultra violence filled grim looking game like Cyberpunk 2077. They are more likely to resonate with something like a Final Fantasy 7 Remake, where they see Cloud and they say "wow it's that guy from Smash he looks great!" or "Wow I played Final Fantasy 7 when I was a teenager, I should check this out".

But honestly, what they actually end up showing third party wise will likely be way less surprising than Cyberpunk or Final Fantasy would be. It's possible they just have a 5 second clip of some dude playing fortnite on his lunch break.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Street Fighter 6 is one of the games that feels like Nintendo would show off in a Switch 2 presentation. I try to think what third party games they’d want to show off.

 

[YolkFolk]

The first Super Mario Bros. series did that. The New Super Mario Bros. series did that. Why wouldn't this one?

The concern would be that they followed the New path and not the original trilogy path.

Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2 (USA)
Super Mario Bros 3

The above are all completely different games despite the numbering. The Japanese Super Mario Bros 2 wasn’t exactly an exciting sequel and I don’t think it would have been that successful or got much acclaim even if they lowered the difficulty a little bit. Instead the conversion of DDP allowed for a trilogy of unique games.

Then you only have to look at the New series to see how drawn out and similar they felt by the final two entries. They’re good games but people got sick of the presentation, style and music all feeling like they came off a production line. Ironically, this series showed why it’s so important to do something new.

What I wouldn’t like to see is Wonder, Wonder 2 and Wonder 3 and them all looking and sounding exactly the same. I want to go back to that original trilogy vibe where each game has its own look and feel.

 

[AngryAlchemist]

10 pages already. This topic was needed for sure lol

This is why I love the community.

Street Fighter 6 is one of the games that feels like Nintendo would show off in a Switch 2 presentation. I try to think what third party games they’d want to show off.

I feel like Street Fighter 6 and Resident Evil 4 would be pretty good games to showcase. Maybe 7 Remake too if Square is interested in that.

 

[MSnap]

There really is uncertainty though, the game was fixed on Xbox Series and PS5, but it still runs like garbage on Xbox One and PS4. Nobody is going to look at a console with "the power of around a PS4" and think "oh cool Cyberpunk will run good on this". Nintendo needs to avoid any possible ways that the perspective can shift from "Cool here's a new Switch" to "Oh... it runs this game... poorly".

That's not even taking into account if Nintendo would even want to showcase a game like Cyberpunk alongside the Switch 2's reveal. They aren't Xbox or Playstation, their primary audience isn't going to resonate with a nudity and ultra violence filled grim looking game like Cyberpunk 2077. They are more likely to resonate with something like a Final Fantasy 7 Remake, where they see Cloud and they say "wow it's that guy from Smash he looks great!" or "Wow I played Final Fantasy 7 when I was a teenager, I should check this out".

But honestly, what they actually end up showing third party wise will likely be way less surprising than Cyberpunk or Final Fantasy would be. It's possible they just have a 5 second clip of some dude playing fortnite on his lunch break.

It runs better on Steam Deck than it did on the old consoles

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

There really is uncertainty though, the game was fixed on Xbox Series and PS5, but it still runs like garbage on Xbox One and PS4. Nobody is going to look at a console with "the power of around a PS4" and think "oh cool Cyberpunk will run good on this". Nintendo needs to avoid any possible ways that the perspective can shift from "Cool here's a new Switch" to "Oh... it runs this game... poorly".

That's not even taking into account if Nintendo would even want to showcase a game like Cyberpunk alongside the Switch 2's reveal. They aren't Xbox or Playstation, their primary audience isn't going to resonate with a nudity and ultra violence filled grim looking game like Cyberpunk 2077. They are more likely to resonate with something like a Final Fantasy 7 Remake, where they see Cloud and they say "wow it's that guy from Smash he looks great!" or "Wow I played Final Fantasy 7 when I was a teenager, I should check this out".

But honestly, what they actually end up showing third party wise will likely be way less surprising than Cyberpunk or Final Fantasy would be. It's possible they just have a 5 second clip of some dude playing fortnite on his lunch break.

????

Cyberpunk 2077 (most up to date version) runs at 30 FPS on Medium on the Steam Deck.



This engine scales better than anything other than Id Tech.

 

[Pokemaniac]

One thing I wonder about is how digital BC will be handled. I'm 99.9% sure Switch 2 will have BC, but how the eShop will work I'm more curious about. Will it be something like Wii Shop on Wii U where it's an entire different mode? Two different eShops for Switch and Switch 2 but both part of the same UI? Or one eShop where all Switch and Switch 2 games are accessible equally? I'm mostly hoping for the 3rd option, but I could see Nintendo going for one of the first two for whatever reason.

New Super Mario Bros. Wonder

There's no reason to expect significant segmentation in the eShop. That only happened on Wii U because they didn't have much of a choice with how certain aspects of it worked.

 

[Deleted member 1005]

It runs better on Steam Deck than it did on the old consoles

????

Cyberpunk 2077 (most up to date version) runs at 30 FPS on Medium on the Steam Deck.



This engine scales better than anything other than Id Tech.

The PC version was always better than the console versions, we can't really compare how the Steam Deck runs a game to how the Switch 2 would run it, it's all down to how optimized the game is and the care put in to make sure it is a good port.

If we start doing the "Steam Deck" vs "Switch 2" comparisons, there will inevitably be a lot of disappointment.

But also I am not saying that Cyberpunk will never come to Switch 2, I am simply saying that I don't believe it's a game Nintendo would get behind to showcase their new console, for the reasons I have already stated.

 

[Dark Cloud]

This is why I love the community.

I feel like Street Fighter 6 and Resident Evil 4 would be pretty good games to showcase. Maybe 7 Remake too if Square is interested in that.

Yeah Capcom and Square Nintendo would want. I can see Atlus again. The bigger deal is western third parties. In 2017 they had EA I believe. Red Dead 2 would be one of the big ones from the west.

 

[YolkFolk]

They should show off the new Mario like this

 

[BassForever]

Even though it sold insane numbers,

And stop right there, just because the gamer (tm) bubble has sour grapes over the New series, it has never stopped being popular with the mass market. Even in Mario Maker 1/2, the New style is by far the most popular for levels being made.

 

[LoneRanger]

Yeah Capcom and Square Nintendo would want. I can see Atlus again. The bigger deal is western third parties. In 2017 they had EA I believe. Red Dead 2 would be one of the big ones from the west.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Square debuts the first reveal trailer of DQ12 at Switch NG Software presentation.

They reveal DQX/XI/Heroes1+2 officially coming to Switch at its January 2017 presentation.

 

[EvilChameleon]

They should show off the new Mario like this

Alternatively, Nintendo hires Peter Moore to show up on stage and roll up his sleeve to reveal a Mario Odyssey 2 tattoo.

 

[rêverie]

It wouldn’t surprise me if Square debuts the first reveal trailer of DQ12 at Switch NG Software presentation.

They reveal DQX/XI/Heroes1+2 officially coming to Switch at its January 2017 presentation.

if they do this i will squeal from excitement. and then can't wait for it to release 5 years later !!

 

[Peleo]

I really hoped for a H1 release, but I feel it will be a Sep/Oct release with a 3D Mario + Metroid Prime 4 launch combo, Donkey Kong in March to close FY.

 

[Mbolibombo]

Street Fighter 6 is one of the games that feels like Nintendo would show off in a Switch 2 presentation. I try to think what third party games they’d want to show off.

Maybe, it all depends on when they do this reveal.. but I think they will focus on upcoming games mostly. I think the presentation will be like 60-90 minutes long and there's not going to be too much time for all the publishers that want to be showcased. Do I think Capcom would want Street Fighter over Resident Evil or Monster Hunter? I'm not so sure.

It's most certainly going to release on Switch 2 though and probably in the first year!

My guesses for what third parties would show up:

Square Enix - New Ip, DQ 12 and something Final Fantasy/
Actiblizz - CoD is going to be there, I would put the bank on this
Capcom - Monster Hunter
Ubi - Farcry or Ass-creed
EA - Sports
2K - Something, But I do think they will be there

 

[ziggyrivers]

Dragon Quest XII would further cement Nintendo dominance in the Japanese market.

I honestly think that the combination of Switch devices and next gen Switch in the market is gonna further consolidate Nintendo as the supreme Japan video game market leader.

Especially now that the Switch’s successor is releasing four to five years after the PS5’s release.

 

[Machrider]

Aside from disagreeing with it for future purposes, that would be BAD for backwards compatibility, and AWFUL if they ever wanted to emulate DS games.

I think it sits among a class of game that would work perfectly well on Switch, but they're not going to bother doing such a thing until they're ready to make a big deal multiplatform rerelease out of it.

That's why everybody was pissed about GBASP and DS Lite, which went on to ruin Nintendo's image.

It was for me--until Mario Kart 8 got further DLC going to the tail of this year. I don't think the next Mario Kart will take long, but there's going to be some buffer space.

I don't think the main team is doing the DLC. Those are just graphical refreshes of existing tracks, probably have junior staffers earning their stripes doing them overseen by a few vets.

IMO Mario Kart Next has probably been in development for the next system since at least 2021.

 

[RochHoch]

I like to imagine that when Nintendo was trying to decide what the Switch 2's specs should be, all they did was go to Capcom and go "hey, what's it gonna take to get World 2 running on this thing?" and that settled it lol

 

[Triistan]

The point is they’re not all predictions. It seems like a thing people actually want. Why would more remakes for 2D Zelda be predicted? Nobody keeps “predicting” remakes for other high profile series. What are they basing their predictions off of? It’s been a decade since a new 2D Zelda. We got Triforce Heroes and Links Awakening to fill the gap.

This is probably because that clown Markomaro put it out on Twitter YEARS ago that the Oracle games were being remade now that I think about it more. It seemed to grow from there with people constantly, year after year, predicting Oracle remakes were coming.

I think that everybody isn’t predicting “how will be the next 2D Zelda” but “what is the next Grezzo game?”. It’s natural thinking at oracles imho.

 

[Rooster]

Fair point, but I meant more in the sense of spreading out first party single player experiences. A Mario Kart or another multiplayer game with widespread appeal would be an excellent launch title.

I agree MK would be a great launch title, but there's a world of difference between single-player Metroid and Mario. If the latter is a launch title, I think the audience for the former is still going to be excited for it touching down, because of the diehard, infrequent, and long-awaited nature.

But if you only had the former, you'd be failing to cater to most of the potential market given the limited waves Metroid makes.

Also one's a kinda edgy, fairly dark (by Nintendo standards) metroidvania/adventure/FPS and the other is, for the most part, a goofy, light-hearted, very child-friendly platformer. I don't think they step on each other's toes much.

I don't doubt there won't be exclusives I just expect most of them to be 3rd party, I just don't see many if any 1st party casual games being exclusive in that first year.

But those are exactly the optimal kind of games that sell the system. Which Nintendo is going to want to do.

Not halfhearted, just conscious of the fact that the "I need new hardware/Switch is underpowered trash" crowd is a vocal minority.

I think you're underestimating how many people are gonna be down to buy a new Switch after the better part of eight years, especially once they see the games for it. While Nintendo home consoles usually end in a whimper, and the Switch is still going strong, a system doesn't need to be running on fumes for people to be ready for the next thing.

I mean, assuming Nintendo doesn't shit the bed marketing/rollout-wise.

Of course they're going to prioritise 2witch, I just don't think they're going to suddenly forget about the massive install base they've got in the background.

But the priority being the Switch 2 means their goal with software is to push the system and push people towards the system. If everything is a cross-release, then their priority is to have every title sell as much as it can as soon as it can. Which would hinder the former goal, considering it would dilute the draw to the priority. That's counterproductive to releasing a new system.

They're not going to forget about the Switch's install base next year, or the year after that (or maybe even the year after that) but they're also not going to give it near as much high-profile support once the successor arrives.

 

[D36]

Yes we did it! We did it. We needed somewhere to talk about Switch 2 software. Thankfully we have that now.

We can discuss Smash being rebooted

Ah, a fellow Smash reboot truther, I see.