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Let the RT revolution begin.

I said this to the people on Era expecting a massive visual leap from Spider-Man PS4 to Spider-Man 2 PS5. You're not gonna get all of that with RT and 60fps on a console.

I'm more than satisfied with better performance instead of pushing for what the Matrix demo is doing but that's just me. I think Insomniac do a fine job.

I wonder what the target resolutions in said modes will be.
 
March 2024 release honestly feels like the new “ Fall 2022 because devs told Bloomberg” or “May 2023 with BOTW because the chip is being taped out soon or whatever” like it’s funny how many times this song and dance has been done before as a long time lurker.
Well yeah, that's the nature of rumors. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. In those instances they were wrong, and in this instance they may also be wrong.

That doesn't change what the rumors currently say.
What are the options for March?

A) Switch 2 is releasing
B) Switch 2 is revealed
C) Nintendo deadline for developers for their games
D) Switch 2 post-reveal live conference, similar to January 2017 conference.
 
March 2024 release honestly feels like the new “ Fall 2022 because devs told Bloomberg” or “May 2023 with BOTW because the chip is being taped out soon or whatever” like it’s funny how many times this song and dance has been done before as a long time lurker.
What else are we going to talk about in this thread until we find out the whatever the reality is? LOL
 
March 2024 could even be an internal deadline for devs to submit games for an April/May reveal, I think considering the context of Nate comment around March is better to just remember it but not to taking it really seriously. Something will happen but we might not even know when it happens
 
March 2024 could even be an internal deadline for devs to submit games for an April/May reveal, I think considering the context of Nate comment around March is better to just remember it but not to taking it really seriously. Something will happen but we might not even know when it happens
That’s what I said an an option and would make sense why devs need to know that. The reveal feels like something maybe some need to know? A full presentation some would need to know too. The release some would know
 
I said this to the people on Era expecting a massive visual leap from Spider-Man PS4 to Spider-Man 2 PS5. You're not gonna get all of that with RT and 60fps on a console.

I'm more than satisfied with better performance instead of pushing for what the Matrix demo is doing but that's just me. I think Insomniac do a fine job.

I wonder what the target resolutions in said modes will be.
If anything, Switch 2 will push a massive leap WITH raytracing because it's actually made for raytracing. PS5 wasn't designed for RT from the conceptual phase, Switch 2 is, there is no reason to tame expectations.
 
Here are some games that would carry a Switch 2, released in early 2024, through the entire first year.


Super Mario (new 3D title)
This would be a launch-day title for the Switch 2 - being a long-awaited follow-up to Super Mario Odyssey with next-gen graphics, there's no way this game's sales would be dampened by a last-gen 2D title released 6 months prior.

The Legend of Zelda (new 2D title)
An exclusive new 2D Zelda would be absolutely massive for the Switch 2.

Mario Kart 9
Everyone is here! All characters from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + DLC are present. But, Mario Kart's game engine and physics as a whole is re-vamped from the ground up! This truly is next-gen Mario Kart, and feels completely new. People would lose their minds.

Donkey Kong (new 2D title)
A brand new exclusive 2D Donkey Kong platformer would be a great first-year title to give the Switch 2 some momentum.

Unannounced Monolith Soft RPG
This would satisfy those craving a core next-gen RPG experience.

Elden Ring
This would be massive for the Switch 2, and would reach far, far more people than the Deck release did.

The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 4K
This would avoid re-releasing the exact same HD remake with the exact same enhancements.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 4K
Same as above. They could even be released as a dual-pack.

Various re-releases of Nintendo Switch titles upgraded for the next-gen experience (4K, 60fps, almost zero loading times)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (4K 60fps)
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (4K 60fps)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (4K 60fps)
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 (4K 60fps)
Astral Chain (4K 60fps)

Various third-party releases (or re-releases) that would only run on the Switch 2
Elden Ring
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Final Fantasy 16
Doom 2016 (4K 60fps)
The Witcher 3 (better graphics I guess)

Given the above, the Switch 2 could have a consistent release schedule of monstrously popular titles throughout next year - even if it were to release in January.
If you re read my post I listed almost all of those first party releases as year one Switch 2 games.
 
Gamepad: 491 g
Switch: 397g

lol It has never occurred to me that the gamepad could be heavier than the Switch.

Having good ergonomics truly is more important than weight.

When I saw the gamepad for the first time I thought it would be terrible to use, but it turned out being really comfortable (just the battery that sucked)
 
If anything, Switch 2 will push a massive leap WITH raytracing because it's actually made for raytracing. PS5 wasn't designed for RT from the conceptual phase, Switch 2 is, there is no reason to tame expectations.
Switch 2 will do RT more efficiently than the other consoles due to Nvidia, but its also less than a tenth of the power consumption of Series X and PS5. And if Kimi is right, its on a worse node.
 
Switch 2 will do RT more efficiently than the other consoles due to Nvidia, but its also less than a tenth of the power consumption of Series X and PS5. And if Kimi is right, its on a worse node.
Just having hardware alone makes it significantly better at it. If IG can get it running in an open world on all modes without proper capabilities, switch 2 should have zero issues. I don't buy the node thing at all for many reasons, but RT performance is unlikely to be affected anyway.
 
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I guess after last week's random specs today he has read a "little" bit of fami haha
(eMMC lol)
 
Figured. But does those numbers look right to you? 4267Mhz? I'm not sure what 6400Mbps is supposed to be either. 6400Mbps sounds almost like bus speed maybe or something else. That "clocks clocks" line among with those numbers look out of place compared to the rest of the image.
 
95% chance those two will be in the year 1 lineup

it took 5 months from the PS5 release (Nov 2020) for them to release Genshin on PS5 (April 2021) and 6 months from the release of Star Rail (April 2023) to port it to PS5 (October 2023)
it'll be interesting if we see them both & ZZZ year one on Switch 2 lol
 
Figured. But does those numbers look right to you? 4267Mhz? I'm not sure what 6400Mbps is supposed to be either. 6400Mbps sounds almost like bus speed maybe or something else. That "clocks clocks" line among with those numbers look out of place compared to the rest of the image.
I think the 6400 is supposed to be MHz, not Mbps? And this is clearly referring to RAM clocks.

I don't think this person is terribly reliable anyway from what I recall?
 
What do you mean they aren't credible?

And yeah, I take "it could release as early as X" to be a sign pointing to X, that shouldn't really be all that odd of a stance.
TechInsights, albeit I am reading through google translate, says its expected to release in March or April. But expected by who? Them? An analyst? A source they have close to nintendo? It sounds to me that its a general expectation, based on how the switch 1 launched in March.

And does not MoneyDJ have an iffy credibility? I know they got the Switch 1 production date, but what else?

I haven't heard of Nweedle before, so I cant really comment on that, but the only decently credible source that directly states H1 is necrolipe. Considering its supposedly coming out in 6 months, should we not be hearing more about production?
 
Figured. But does those numbers look right to you? 4267Mhz? I'm not sure what 6400Mbps is supposed to be either. 6400Mbps sounds almost like bus speed maybe or something else. That "clocks clocks" line among with those numbers look out of place compared to the rest of the image.
A bit lower than Thraktor predicted handheld, much lower in docked (550mhz/ 1,1ghz was his predictions).

The difference between docked and handheld is very small with those clocks.

Edit: it's Mbps, my brain just read GHz. This makes no sense.
 
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I guess after last week's random specs today he has read a "little" bit of fami haha
(eMMC lol)
I'm not buying the idea that the Zelda BOTW demo was showcasing improved load times AND NG is using eMMC storage. They must be using some kind of SSD storage at this point. iPhones have literally been equipped with NVMe storage since the iPhone 6s.
 
A bit lower than Thraktor predicted handheld, much lower in docked (550mhz/ 1,1ghz was his predictions).
I don't think Thraktor talked about RAM I/O rate, which although I don't find RedGamingTech reliable, is what is being talking about.
 
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I think we'll be seeing the Metroid Prime 1&2 remasters and the Zelda WW/TP HD compilation fairly soon, maybe at the next Nintendo Direct. If the Switch 2 isn't announced then, these are something like the latest ports that most people are looking forward to. If the Switch 2 is announced at that time, 4k versions would be perfect to help nurture the first few months of the new hardware alongside major new game releases.


Which got me thinking about what we heard about the BOTW demo on future hardware. It sounds like something reworked specifically, not just an improved port. I find quite exciting the idea that, during the cross-gen period between the two consoles, we could have something like wii U or HD smoothing ports on Switch 1 and the same games ambitiously reworked on Switch 2. For example, a joint release of XCX deluxe on Switch 1 and XCX 4K on Switch 2 with exclusive content sounds like something that would do a lot of good at the launch of future hardware without neglecting the Switch's current user base.
 
TechInsights, albeit I am reading through google translate, says its expected to release in March or April. But expected by who? Them? An analyst? A source they have close to nintendo? It sounds to me that its a general expectation, based on how the switch 1 launched in March.

And does not MoneyDJ have an iffy credibility? I know they got the Switch 1 production date, but what else?

I haven't heard of Nweedle before, so I cant really comment on that, but the only decently credible source that directly states H1 is necrolipe. Considering its supposedly coming out in 6 months, should we not be hearing more about production?
Techinsights and MoneyDJ are reporting on production. That's where their info comes from.
 
I'm not buying the idea that the Zelda BOTW demo was showcasing improved load times AND NG is using eMMC storage. They must be using some kind of SSD storage at this point. iPhones have literally been equipped with NVMe storage since the iPhone 6s.
Yeah. If nearly zero loading time is real, almost certain it got to be UFS.
found this in the nvidia leak

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lmao cute.
 
F-Zero 99 being leaked to him as F-Zero GX HD strongly suggests he has 4th hand info, so it could have been something like "gotta get ready for March!" being said by a couple of devs (either for launch or to get their reveal trailer ready) and then passed down to Nate after multiple hand offs.
can you stop being so wrong all the time, or is it something you physically need to do
 
F-Zero 99 being leaked to him as F-Zero GX HD strongly suggests he has 4th hand info, so it could have been something like "gotta get ready for March!" being said by a couple of devs (either for launch or to get their reveal trailer ready) and then passed down to Nate after multiple hand offs.
Do you just enjoying making stuff up in your head all the time? Just because you think it doesn’t mean you need to type it out. He said only one source told him GX. Overall he looked at it as an F-Zero project because the one source didn’t seem good enough to just conclude that’s what it was.
 
From redgamingtech
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I guess after last week's random specs today he has read a "little" bit of fami haha
(eMMC lol)
lol, he changed his shit that quick?

Still, there is extremely thin evidence for believing a march release date. This is late 22- early 23 all over again.
I don't even think it's coming March. my point is Nintendo doesn't have any reason to hold games like this for Drake reveal. they haven't in the past
 
Yeah, I don't think Peach Showtime precludes a March hardware release. Would probably be early March, so they're not too close together, but that's about it. If there's any time things might bunch up a little bit, it's right around the launch.
if next 3D Mario as rumored to be it launch title by Nate,launching Switch sucessor in march would surely overshadow Princess Peach Showtime, everyone will be eaying the 3D Mario
 
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what? you think it's fake? you can download the data and check for yourself
Sorry, thought you made a joke post cuz you used Notepad app.

Where did you see this anyway? T254 was mentioned in the 4chan "leak" earlier today that we dismissed instantaneously as fanfic.
 
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I think the 6400 is supposed to be MHz, not Mbps? And this is clearly referring to RAM clocks.

I don't think this person is terribly reliable anyway from what I recall?
6400 Mbps is LPDDR5 speed per pin. Convert it to bytes (%8) and multiply by 128 pins, you get the 102.4 GB/s bandwidth we often use here.

4800 Mbps = 76.8 GB/s.

Keep in mind that if you Google "LPDDR5 speed", you get that 6400 Mbps number as the result. It could have easily been taken from there.
 
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