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Discussion One Piece |ST| Over One Thousand Pieces (unmarked spoilers upon official chapter release)

Weebos said:
They could also shuffle arcs around to work better for live action. I know I personally wouldn't want that, but if it makes for a better show to, say, do Skypeia before Alabasta, then they may do it.

I know that specific example has some weird narrative implications and problems, but I was just using it as an example.
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Oda actually planned on having Thriller Bark happen before Water 7. They would have fallen from Skypeia into Thriller Bark, recruited Brook, and then had Water 7 go straight to Sabaody. I think he rearranged it so there would be some breathing room in between the two heavy World Goverment centric storylines.

I think the way he did it in the actual story works better too. We get Thriller Bark which is horror themed, but it's all a cartoony caricature of horror, then you get put in a false sense of security when you get to Sabaody, a fun bubbly theme park, and then it smacks you in the face as the real horrors of the world exposed
 
This was in the number 1 slot on my Netflix. Wasn't sure whether to watch as I'm someone who is 100% allergic to anime but loves pirate themed stories having grown up in the Caribbean.

Unfortunately, having watched only one episode... that's enough. Still allergic lol.

Not sure what the tone of the original is supposed to be (as I'm completely unfamiliar with the source material) but this felt like a live-action Saturday morning cartoon, very clearly meant for kids (like 10-14 maybe?) but with a bit more violence than I might have expected. That tone surprised me a bit considering the hype I saw for it on forums where the average user has to be like 30-40. Not that there's anything wrong with liking this stuff, just expected something even slightly more serious. I was NOT expecting stretchy arms, heart-themed pirate ships and "the power of following your dreams", put it that way.

Anyway, I wonder if this'll be the main reaction of people who stumble into it based on the numbers / hype, or if I'm just uniquely poorly equipped for these kinds of stories lol
 
Bonejack said:
I have a good idea how they can manage to slim down stuff:

Spinoff series for sidestories!

I would watch a Buggy spin-off series that explains his schenanigans that happen next to the main casts story!
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I don't think this would slim down anything much at all. Most of the sidestories that I could see being cut wouldn't be meaty enough for even an episode, let alone a spin-off series.
Linkstrikesback said:
Hardcore fans might not take it so well, but if I was them, I'd massively truncate skypeia. If season 2 can focus on Arabasta, and 3 on water 7/enies Lobby, that sounds ideal. For how long it takes in the manga, it's a largely irrelevant side arc, and the things that actually have longer term consequences like the ponegliff can easily be repurposed elsewhere.
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Skypeia is the heart and soul of the series and every arc that happens after retroactively makes Skypeia more and more relevant. If the showrunners cut Skypeia (an arc that one of them considers his favorite), I'd highly question their understanding of the core themes of One Piece as a whole.
 
Heron said:
This was in the number 1 slot on my Netflix. Wasn't sure whether to watch as I'm someone who is 100% allergic to anime but loves pirate themed stories having grown up in the Caribbean.

Unfortunately, having watched only one episode... that's enough. Still allergic lol.

Not sure what the tone of the original is supposed to be (as I'm completely unfamiliar with the source material) but this felt like a live-action Saturday morning cartoon, very clearly meant for kids (like 10-14 maybe?) but with a bit more violence than I might have expected. That tone surprised me a bit considering the hype I saw for it on forums where the average user has to be like 30-40. Not that there's anything wrong with liking this stuff, just expected something even slightly more serious. I was NOT expecting stretchy arms, heart-themed pirate ships and "the power of following your dreams", put it that way.

Anyway, I wonder if this'll be the main reaction of people who stumble into it based on the numbers / hype, or if I'm just uniquely poorly equipped for these kinds of stories lol
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One Piece appeals to both kids and adults. Not surprising considering we are on a Nintendo forum lol

The series has more drama and emotion than you can shake a stick at, but you have to stick with it if you want that
 
Man, 4kids really permenantly ruined One Piece for many people didn’t it? Even decades later the “it’s a Saturday morning cartoon for young children” is still drilled into people.
 
xaszatm said:
Man, 4kids really permenantly ruined One Piece for many people didn’t it? Even decades later the “it’s a Saturday morning cartoon for young children” is still drilled into people.
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Wait, it actually WAS a saturday morning cartoon? Holy shit, that was an absolutely wild guess by me then. I legit had no idea.

Google confirms. Well god damn. Thought it was just a popular comic book.

Mekanos said:
One Piece appeals to both kids and adults. Not surprising considering we are on a Nintendo forum lol

The series has more drama and emotion than you can shake a stick at, but you have to stick with it if you want that
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Sure, and there's nothing wrong with adults liking kid / young adult fare - genuinely. But usually it's because it's something they grew up with (like Pokemon or whatnot). Adults typically don't get into new kid-oriented media that didn't exist when they were younger, at least in my experience. And there'll be plenty of people like me who have never heard of One Piece before pressing play on Netflix. I just wonder how it'll play with those folk, that's all.

And also, if it was based solely on storytelling I'd hate Nintendo lol. I'm a fan for their gameplay. I experience the story in something like BotW through gritted teeth. Not all Nintendo stories are bad, but they're not my cup of tea.
 
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xaszatm said:
Man, 4kids really permenantly ruined One Piece for many people didn’t it? Even decades later the “it’s a Saturday morning cartoon for young children” is still drilled into people.
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To be fair though... it technically is. It airs on Sunday morning after a 6 day school week for the children of Japan
 
Heron said:
Wait, it actually WAS a saturday morning cartoon? Holy shit, that was an absolutely wild guess by me then. I legit had no idea.

Google confirms. Well god damn. Thought it was just a popular comic book.


Sure, and there's nothing wrong with that - genuinely.

But that said, if it was based solely on storytelling I'd hate Nintendo lol. I'm a fan for their gameplay. I experience the story in something like BotW through gritted teeth. Just not a fan of most stories aimed at kids.
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It is. It is a shounen jump comic first that is adapted to an anime. But I do feel like your really dismissing the story of one piece. They do tackle subjects above what you’d expect for a “Saturday morning cartoon” in spite or even because it costs itself in that energy.

I really need to emphasize the Captain Planet plotline you might have in your head isn’t represented in the show.

…and unfortunately for the immature side of maturity there is also a lot of…issues especially when it came to women designs especially during a certain section.
 
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Heron said:
Sure, and there's nothing wrong with adults liking kid / young adult fare - genuinely. But usually it's because it's something they grew up with (like Pokemon or whatnot). Adults typically don't get into new kid-oriented media that didn't exist when they were younger, at least in my experience.
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This is how I know you don't follow the anime community at all lol

I mean that genuinely, anime is extremely popular all around the world and the most popular series are aimed at teens/kids, this is nothing new

We live in an age where the MCU is the biggest media franchise ever, this is the norm nowadays
 
Yeah, looking into it. It's really funny watching people react to this and watching some of the more diehard hate this because "the manga didn't do it" and than claiming the show doesn't get the characters...then going to my friends who haven't seen the series and is able to pick up right away what every character is about.

...maybe I'm just bitter at this point by "true fans" who need everything to be perfectly 1 to 1 otherwise "they didn't get it." These days I tend to hate fandoms far more than actual shows...
 
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Metroid said:
Skypeia is the heart and soul of the series and every arc that happens after retroactively makes Skypeia more and more relevant. If the showrunners cut Skypeia (an arc that one of them considers his favorite), I'd highly question their understanding of the core themes of One Piece as a whole
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In what sense? I think it's practically the opposite. It doesn't add anything that the major before and after arcs, Arabasta and water 7/enies Lobby do significantly better.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
In what sense? I think it's practically the opposite. It doesn't add anything that the major before and after arcs, Arabasta and water 7/enies Lobby do significantly better.
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Skypeia's important point is that it hammers the theme of dreams and their legacy, something that is one of the major running themes throughout the series. Many arcs cover dreams as well, but none has it with such importance that it interweaves every aspect of the arc from beginning to end. Nearly every character in that arc is either chasing after their own dream or continuing the legacy of a dream. How dreams can create a bond that can last for centuries. It takes one of the central themes of the manga and goes all in on it in a way that more story strucutred arcs cannot. You're right in that on a "story" level, Skypeia hasn't come back yet in a major way rather in small ways here and there (though I think the fact that Uroge is the only Supernova we haven't meet yet seems to indicate there is probably something involving the Skypeans we haven't seen yet). But the empahsis of its theme is why its an important arc. Not every arc needs narrative importance and I do think people have gotten overly eager to label everything not 100% related to the plot in a major way "filler". Because Skypeia's arc is presenting its theme in the most unabased way possible and that is what makes it the heart and soul of One Piece. Because the core of One Piece is chasing your dream.

Also in terms of more immediate story importance, we finally get more insight in Nico Robin and her character beyond Miss All-Sunday which I don't think you can show without the Skypeia adventure, the first instances of the idea that the Going Merry is alive, and the sheer damages the Going Merry receives here is one of the primary reasons why it needs to be decommissioned in Water 7. Things happen in Skypeia that are important more immediately that ties to the next arc of Water 7.
 
xaszatm said:
Things happen in Skypeia that are important more immediately that ties to the next arc of Water 7
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I feel like you can cut like 30% of Skypieia and still accomplish these things.

Heron said:
Adults typically don't get into new kid-oriented media that didn't exist when they were younger, at least in my experience
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Manga/anime isn't specifically kid-oriented, it's everyone-oriented. I've introduced adult-aged folks to One Piece and they end up loving it, because by all accounts One Piece is a legitimately great fantasy story.

Dardan Sandiego said:
One Piece has taught generations of young men that it's okay to cry.
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It's even kind enough to make you want to cry so you can practice bawlingyour heart out.
 
Watch them have Alabasta-Enies Lobby plotted out and written by the time these fucking strikes end

Pay your workers Hollywood, you greedy pieces of shit. Keep the One Piece coming.
 
Wonder if they can still work on non Writing/Acting work in the meantime like a few other projects are doing (Like Sonic 3 is filming all it's non actor scenes, Superman Legacy is doing preproduction stuff, etc)

Hopefully they can start building sets and making sure Chopper looks good
 
Joy-Boy said:
Wonder if they can still work on non Writing/Acting work in the meantime like a few other projects are doing (Like Sonic 3 is filming all it's non actor scenes, Superman Legacy is doing preproduction stuff, etc)

Hopefully they can start building sets and making sure Chopper looks good
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Considering the collaboration with Netflix Japan and Oda, I imagine many of the writers on the show aren't part of the ongoing WGA strike. I don't know if Japanese writers are also on strike or even unionized.
 
People asking to skip skypiea always seems so sus to me. Like, is there anything wrong with an arc that is primarily focused on a one off adventure?
Like, come on. It is the heart of adventure in One Piece.

With people like that in charge, this story would have ended ages ago.

Metroid said:
From the sounds of this Variety article, the creative team is more than ready for further seasons
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The crew is ready, but is Netflix ready to pay fair?

meatbag said:
Manga/anime isn't specifically kid-oriented, it's everyone-oriented. I've introduced adult-aged folks to One Piece and they end up loving it, because by all accounts One Piece is a legitimately great fantasy story.
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Well... technically a shonen manga is for kids. Its specifically targetting pre-teens and teens. Its in the name.
 
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Mer.Saloon said:
People asking to skip skypiea always seems so sus to me. Like, is there anything wrong with an arc that is primarily focused on a one off adventure?
Like, come on. It is the heart of adventure in One Piece.

With people like that in charge, this story would have ended ages ago.
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Not to mention, the gang NEEDS time to bond with Robin, that's non-negotiable, and then there's also the Klabutermann business that's pretty important going forward

How do people expect them to adapt Water 7/Enies Lobby if they've cut the emotional core that makes the arc such an incredible payoff? It doesn't make any sense.
 
Yeah the Robin twist doesn't work nearly as well if we don't have at least a season of Robin as a "normal" crew member. Season 3 can cover Jaya/Skypeia without much issue - stuff will be cut, that's expected, but not all or most of it.
 
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Mer.Saloon said:
People asking to skip skypiea always seems so sus to me. Like, is there anything wrong with an arc that is primarily focused on a one off adventure?
Like, come on. It is the heart of adventure in One Piece.

With people like that in charge, this story would have ended ages ago.


The crew is ready, but is Netflix ready to pay fair?


Well... technically a shonen manga is for kids. Its specifically targetting pre-teens and teens. Its in the name.
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RochHoch said:
Not to mention, the gang NEEDS time to bond with Robin, that's non-negotiable, and then there's also the Klabutermann business that's pretty important going forward

How do people expect them to adapt Water 7/Enies Lobby if they've cut the emotional core that makes the arc such an incredible payoff? It doesn't make any sense.
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Plus Skypeia is the first true look at Nico Robin. Her actions in Alabasta are always covered in a mystery of who she is. Skypeia is where we get some pretty solid evidence of Robin's dreams as well as what she holds dear. You can't really cut that part out and expect people to get Robin.
 
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Actually something else I think that makes Skypeia important...it's ironically the fact that Luffy isn't important on the world scale for this arc. For all the talk about how One Piece is larger than the strawhats, the events that happen outside of Luffy and the gang during this arc are vital for everything in the pre-timeskip era. Sure, many of these effects are because of Luffy's defeat of Crocodile the arc before, but this arc is the first time we see the true scale of One Piece's world with many people acting independently of Luffy. It's a great example of how this isn't just Luffy's adventure but a complex world full of political machinations that will turn even when Luffy isn't around to mess with them.
 
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Mer.Saloon said:
Its specifically targetting pre-teens and teens
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Fair point, but in practice One Piece audience is mostly adults (which makes sense given how long it’s running). I guess my point was that you don’t have to be a kid, or bank on nostalgia, to enjoy One Piece.
 
Obviously Live Action Usopp doesn't have his ridiculous honker, but do you think Sogeking's mask will?

I feel like it might look wrong without it lol.
 
Weebos said:
Obviously Live Action Usopp doesn't have his ridiculous honker, but do you think Sogeking's mask will?

I feel like it might look wrong without it lol.
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I would be lowkey disappointed if they don't give the mask a long nose tbh.
 
RochHoch said:
Not to mention, the gang NEEDS time to bond with Robin, that's non-negotiable, and then there's also the Klabutermann business that's pretty important going forward

How do people expect them to adapt Water 7/Enies Lobby if they've cut the emotional core that makes the arc such an incredible payoff? It doesn't make any sense.
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The Merry stuff is also going to hit so much harder in the live action now that the ship is in honor of the guy after being killed. Adds even more personal reasons for Usopp to be attached to it.

They should even add some flashbacks of kid Usopp and Merry just being best buds right before Luffy decides to get a new ship. Really twist that knife good
 
I've now read past the Arlong Park arc

Yeah, it was the best storyline so far. It does quite a bit for Nami's character, taking her from a likeable roguish character to a very human one. Arlong is pretty great as a villain, I like how they have him seem likeable at first, given he seems to have some respect for Nami, and is overall a bit jovial, before really delving into how much of a bastard he actually is in killing Belle-Mere and trying to keep Nami trapped in her hellish situation. Looking forward to seeing Zoro fight without being injured, which he has been in some way or another since his introduction. Luffy is an example of a character archetype I really like, one who isn't especially deep or complex but is so earnest in contrast to the world and cast around him that he becomes a beacon and inspiration for others. All in all good stuff so far.
 
I love Arlong Park, it's so grimy. Great backstory for Nami, a villain you love to hate and it gives everyone an opportunity to shine, even Usopp.
 
Arlong Park is commonly referred as the point of One Piece where "it gets good" and while I loved it from chapter one, I do agree that Arlong Park is a fantastic arc.
 
oomoepoo said:
Arlong Park is commonly referred as the point of One Piece where "it gets good" and while I loved it from chapter one, I do agree that Arlong Park is a fantastic arc.
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I'd say it's more where One Piece becomes genuinely great, but also the moment Luffy puts his hat on Nami is when you'll decide if you're a fan or not

My take further would be that Alabasta is where the series becomes legendary
 
Netflix made me nostalgic for early OP so I decided I’m gonna reread the pre-TS stuff, it’s been a long ass time and a lot of this stuff I never read proper scans/translations for

I was gonna save my reread for closer to the end of the series but if I stop at Marineford it’ll probably be pretty manageable, not really in a rush to reread Fishman through Dressrosa
 
Mekanos said:
Netflix made me nostalgic for early OP so I decided I’m gonna reread the pre-TS stuff, it’s been a long ass time and a lot of this stuff I never read proper scans/translations for

I was gonna save my reread for closer to the end of the series but if I stop at Marineford it’ll probably be pretty manageable, not really in a rush to reread Fishman through Dressrosa
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I was thinking of doing this too... It's been a couple years since I last reread the entire series
 
I just finished re-reading Alabasta. It is very good and surprisingly brisk compared to what I'm used to (granted, what I'm used to is the glacially slow anime but still). It also kind of reinforced my belief that you can do this arc with a few cuts in 3 episodes or fully in 4 episodes. Especially since I forgot how small Ace's scenes in the manga are. The dude gets a few panels before leaving just as quickly.
 
I was planning on doing a whole series re-read, 5-ish chapters a day and let a whole bunch of chapters stack up in the meantime. Read up until Drum Island but then decided not to do it yet. Biggest thing was that I didnt want to risk getting spoiled on seeing what
Imu
looks like if that were revealed in the interim. I think when that happens, that feels like a good time to go back.
 
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I've been eyeing a reread but started rewatching it instead and just finished Loguetown. Wild to think that I was 13 when this aired on German TV.

I'm probably going to switch to the manga sometime after Arabasta.
 
I'd like to go through the anime again as well (fell off after Alabasta), but I'd prefer One Pace and it hasn't finished the earlier arcs (understandably so as those were less filler heavy). Maybe after Wano finishes airing and they get a Wano cut going I'll start it up again and just tough it out on the earlier stuff.
 

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Mekanos said:
I'd like to go through the anime again as well (fell off after Alabasta), but I'd prefer One Pace and it hasn't finished the earlier arcs (understandably so as those were less filler heavy). Maybe after Wano finishes airing and they get a Wano cut going I'll start it up again and just tough it out on the earlier stuff.
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The One Pace team recently finished both Baratie and Drum Island and are working on Arabasta (6 episodes left) and Jaya (2 left) parallel to Wano and rereleases. The Jaya episodes are almost done, the remaining Arabasta eps are still in an early state but I wouldn't be surprised if they're done by the end of the year.

The big issue is Skypiea, the unfinished episodes cover around 50 vanilla eps D:
 
Dardan Sandiego said:
The One Pace team recently finished both Baratie and Drum Island and are working on Arabasta (6 episodes left) and Jaya (2 left) parallel to Wano and rereleases. The Jaya episodes are almost done, the remaining Arabasta eps are still in an early state but I wouldn't be surprised if they're done by the end of the year.

The big issue is Skypiea, the unfinished episodes cover around 50 vanilla eps D:
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That’s pretty encouraging, but yeah Skypeia and I think Water 7 are unfinished? And that’s about when the anime gets reeeeeally bloated. Glad they’re still working on it though.
 
Mekanos said:
That’s pretty encouraging, but yeah Skypeia and I think Water 7 are unfinished? And that’s about when the anime gets reeeeeally bloated. Glad they’re still working on it though.
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Yeah, Skypiea episode 6 (of a planned 24) and Water 7 episode 14 (of a planned 20) are almost done as well.

This year, on top of keeping up with Wano (4 eps) and rereleases, they did
Baratie 4-9
Drum Island 5-8
Arabasta 14+15
Jaya 1-6

That's 4 new episodes and 18 legacy episodes in a little over 8 months. I wouldn't be surprised if they're done with everything sometime around Summer '24.
 
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