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oldpuck said:
Out of curiosity - where has this theory about this week emerged from? Or is it just a threshold for some of the 2023 believers?
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This week is the 40th anniversary of the Famicom and Nintendo has announced new hardware every other July, since the Lite. My personal threshold, however, is the end of the month.
 
oese0 said:
There's no fucking way. I won't believe it until I see it. I am NEVER giving EA the benefit of the doubt. There's a caveat somewhere, and it's definitely not down to hardware.
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It will be a reskin of FIFA 23 which is a reskin of 22 etc etc

It won’t be a ‘Legacy Edition’ as there hasn’t been an EA FC game yet.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that EA FC 25 will be a ‘Legacy Edition’?

Hard to put it into words.
 
BloodMoon said:
It will be a reskin of FIFA 23 which is a reskin of 22 etc etc

It won’t be a ‘Legacy Edition’ as there hasn’t been an EA FC game yet.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that EA FC 25 will be a ‘Legacy Edition’?

Hard to put it into words.
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Totally get what you're trying to say, but then it would be somewhat weird to see a Deluxe Edition considering none of the Legacy Edition entries had any so far. Then again, this is EA so who knows.
 
D36 said:
This week is the 40th anniversary of the Famicom and Nintendo has announced new hardware every other July, since the Lite. My personal threshold, however, is the end of the month.
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I think if there is new hardware at this point, it's going to be a Famicom version of the Switch OLED with Cream/Burgundy Joy-cons...and it would look freaking sweet.

EDIT: These colors for a Switch OLED?

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chef's kiss
 
I feel like if a hardware announcement were coming this month we would've heard some murmuring about it at this point. OLED, Lite, and Mariko announcements all had some prior talk.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I feel like it's a little telling that we're years and years into speculating about this device and I don't think anyone has come up with a single realistic gimmick for it, lol.

I'm feeling like this is just going to be the Switch with more power and that's it.
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Ehh. If it was that easy for a group of nobodies to come up with and agree that a gimmick is a great idea, somebody else will have made use of it before Nintendo.
YolkFolk said:
I always look at that scenario like this - Are people buying the Switch at this stage in the systems life cycle the sort of people who will buy Switch 2 on day 1?
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Some of them would be. The people making up the market are always changing. For instance, in the average day, a few hundred thousand people will probably be starting their first job and getting their first disposable income. Or unknown number of people will just have played someone else's Switch for the first time. They didn't intentionally wait to get a Switch super late, but are just now in the position of being able to consider whatever is the latest thing.
Tentacle-tropes said:
I figure every system pre-Switch is gonna be on NSO eventually. Some games aren’t worth remastering/remaking for one reason or another. Even games that get remastered/remade will probably get their original versions out on the service.
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What they're doing with something like Pikmin 1 is not very different than what they'd be doing with a GameCube or Wii NSO. The only reason to put a game on NSO rather than the eShop is because they don't think people would actually pay for it and it has more value as a bulletpoint.
 
oese0 said:
There's no fucking way. I won't believe it until I see it. I am NEVER giving EA the benefit of the doubt. There's a caveat somewhere, and it's definitely not down to hardware.
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Yeah EA FC is probably going to be the start of something 'new' then the switch will get 50 legacy editions of that
 
Shoulder said:
I think if there is new hardware at this point, it's going to be a Famicom version of the Switch OLED with Cream/Burgundy Joy-cons...and it would look freaking sweet.

EDIT: These colors for a Switch OLED?

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chef's kiss
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Why not just bundle it with a new NES Remix game?
 
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ILikeFeet said:
according to Emily, Nintendo wants to continue Golden Sun, but Camelot is small and has more lucrative projects on their table. they'll probably outsource it to an external studio with Camelot oversight for 1+2 remake. maybe add a Dark Dawn epilogue so they can go straight into GS4
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Do you have a source for this comment from Emily? Not doubting you, I just need a bread crumb of hope
 
If Nintendo plans to release the Switch 2 in March 2024 or Holiday 2024, I doubt they’d stress their supply chain lines with a new themed OLED based on the FAMICOM. Especially with how filled some stored are with all versions of Switch: Lite, V2, OLED White, OLED R&B and Zelda OLED.

Maaaybe we’ll get themed Joycons. Maybe NES game drops in Switch Online
 
BloodMoon said:
It will be a reskin of FIFA 23 which is a reskin of 22 etc etc

It won’t be a ‘Legacy Edition’ as there hasn’t been an EA FC game yet.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that EA FC 25 will be a ‘Legacy Edition’?

Hard to put it into words.
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Makes perfect sense. They had me for a moment.
 
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ziggyrivers said:
If Nintendo plans to release the Switch 2 in March 2024 or Holiday 2024, I doubt they’d stress their supply chain lines with a new themed OLED based on the FAMICOM. Especially with how filled some stored are with all versions of Switch: Lite, V2, OLED White, OLED R&B and Zelda OLED.

Maaaybe we’ll get themed Joycons. Maybe NES game drops in Switch Online
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Given their OLED models only having designs rather than shell color swaps for the Switch's console, Joy-Con-themed Famicon/NES Joy-Cons from them would be VERY NICE. I suppose the only exception for the Switch Console not being the casual black would be the Mario-themed Switch that released around 3D World + Bowser's Fury.
 
EA doesn't even want to tweak Legacy Edition enough to rebrand to EA FC. Flat out embarrassing

edit: I stand corrected.
 
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ziggyrivers said:
If Nintendo plans to release the Switch 2 in March 2024 or Holiday 2024, I doubt they’d stress their supply chain lines with a new themed OLED based on the FAMICOM
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Holiday 2024 is 16 months away, Nintendo is saying 15 million Switches in the Fiscal. It seems likely that we'll get a couple more special editions of some kind. Every Switch motherboard that that doesn't sell is a lost $120 bucks or so in inventory. And while big box stores don't want too many SKUs, speciality stores still live off of those things
 
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JoshuaJSlone said:
What they're doing with something like Pikmin 1 is not very different than what they'd be doing with a GameCube or Wii NSO. The only reason to put a game on NSO rather than the eShop is because they don't think people would actually pay for it and it has more value as a bulletpoint.
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The bolded is essentially what I’m getting at. There are some games that won’t get even the treatment like Pikmin 1+2 for instance.
 
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Ojoloco said:



Looks like is the end of the legacy editions
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I hope so. But don’t see how there will be any meaningful change if they don’t switch engines to frostbite (more likely for the next Switch, right?) OR add in a ton more animations that have not been added in since FIFA 19 and include gameplay features like power shots from the recent release. I’d honestly love a switch version that has a more modernized animation feature set.
 
Gamecocks625 said:
I hope so. But don’t see how there will be any meaningful change if they don’t switch engines to frostbite (more likely for the next Switch, right?) OR add in a ton more animations that have not been added in since FIFA 19 and include gameplay features like power shots from the recent release. I’d honestly love a switch version that has a more modernized animation feature set.
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Plants & Zombies in Switch already runs on Frostbite. Switch already runs the Frostbite engine.
 
The Competition said:
I bet Cyberpunk would be possible but given how badly it ran on PS4 and Xbone they might not think its worth the struggle? Do we know where the bottlenecks were for Cyberpunk on last gen? And if so, do we know if Drake will likely address them?
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It's running at a smooth 60fps on an ROG Ally. Maybe it won't be a problem for switch 2 (but still, I don't think CDPR will bother porting it)
 
oldpuck said:
Out of curiosity - where has this theory about this week emerged from? Or is it just a threshold for some of the 2023 believers?
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It's the week after July 4th, same week as the OLED and Lite reveals. It's Famicom 40. And now we have a bunch of stock-clearing-y sales.

Maybe it doesn't release for 9, 12, 14 months. Maybe it releases in 3. But it could be revealed this week regardless.
 
If they reveal this week, I'd be extremely impressed that Nintendo prevented major leakage. Hell, if they reveal it in October I'd be impressed (granted that nothing leaks from now until then.)
 
ILikeFeet said:
nah, they will. Cyberpunk sells a lot and after 1M units of TW3, this is the next logical move
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Witcher 3 has a well functioning last gen version, Cyberpunk do not.

If they can't get last gen to run decently, I doubt they will even think about the Switch. Maybe Drake.
 
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Paxie said:
I doubt the Famicom 40th anniversary has anything to do with their hardware releases, given that it seems like it's solely localized to Japan
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Interesting fact:

Nintendo is based in Japan, and Japan is their domestic market.


On a more serious note, the NES had a slow, scattershot roll-out over the rest of the world. Nintendo's first home console (console as we understand it today, not a PONG clone.) was released in 1983 in July, full stop. It's the only real solid date for the launch of that hardware.
 
ILikeFeet said:
nah, they will. Cyberpunk sells a lot and after 1M units of TW3, this is the next logical move
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By cyberpunk you mean the game or the genre?

If it's the game, then I'm surprised and would agree the chances increase considerably.
If it's just the genre, I don't think it matters for this game.

Anyway, only time will tell who's right.
 
Concernt said:
Interesting fact:

Nintendo is based in Japan, and Japan is their domestic market.


On a more serious note, the NES had a slow, scattershot roll-out over the rest of the world. Nintendo's first home console (console as we understand it today, not a PONG clone.) was released in 1983 in July, full stop. It's the only real solid date for the launch of that hardware.
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Yeah but it's not like their international branches are gassing up 40 years of the NES. If they were tying a major hardware release (regardless if it's a new revision or console) to this then it would have global consistency. At most I see them doing a special Famicom skin for the OLED that isn't sold overseas
 
RailWays said:
I feel like if a hardware announcement were coming this month we would've heard some murmuring about it at this point. OLED, Lite, and Mariko announcements all had some prior talk.
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Mariko and Lite were reported on as products, but no one shared any advance warnings about the announcement. And while I recall Emily saying she thought hardware would be announced "imminently" ahead of the OLED reveal, she said that in June, and I think even said it might happen before or around E3. Not to mention that she didn't have a handle on what the hardware actually was, so it doesn't seem like she had a source with foreknowledge of the announcement itself at that time either.
 
chocolate_supra said:
One step closer to a Famiboards-themed OLED
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I have a Logan Switch right now, which I know I could homebrew at some point, or could give it to my Nephews who always want to play Nintendo when they come over. Getting a Switch OLED [Insert Special Edition model] would be a nice upgrade, though that's assuming Switch 2 doesn't launch until late 2024. Then again, I already told myself, I am done buying games for now as TOTK was my last purchase. That said, I got TOTK courtesy of the Vouchers, and I still have one left. The key will be to use it on another full priced game, say XC3, which I know recently was in sale.
 
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Paxie said:
I doubt the Famicom 40th anniversary has anything to do with their hardware releases, given that it seems like it's solely localized to Japan
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realistically there's a chance it could be some famicom color scheme for the switch or the joycons. It won't be next gen so it's not really worth too much attention.
 
Hermii said:
Witcher 3 has a well functioning current gen version, Cyberpunk do not.

If they can't get current gen to run decently, I doubt they will even think about the Switch. Maybe Drake.
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Cyberpunk's current gen version is pretty good now. last gen stopped getting updates. and I'm not talking about switch, I'm talking about porting to drake. with a more stable foundation to build off of (and having a much better cpu), a drake port isn't as crazy as it sounds

Kise Ryota said:
By cyberpunk you mean the game or the genre?

If it's the game, then I'm surprised and would agree the chances increase considerably.
If it's just the genre, I don't think it matters for this game.

Anyway, only time will tell who's right.
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the game
 
ILikeFeet said:
Cyberpunk's current gen version is pretty good now. last gen stopped getting updates. and I'm not talking about switch, I'm talking about porting to drake. with a more stable foundation to build off of (and having a much better cpu), a drake port isn't as crazy as it sounds


the game
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Typo I meant last gen, and I thought you were talking about Switch.
 
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