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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST5| Uncharted Territory: Drake's Deception
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After Samus Returns, the 3DS pretty much just had ports and remasters for the next year and a half. Though in fairness, the Switch was already out at that point, so you're probably right.
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Again, if we believe that new hardware was cancelled relatively late in development that constitutes a significant disruption of the software pipeline. A year of remasters wouldn't be intentional but instead the result of this disruption. Maybe we'll get the games that would've come to Switch 1 while Switch 2 was out, like the last year or so of 3DS.
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OK I am officially team July.
- No one has said a peep about a June Direct. In fact, some of the people we normally would look to for info have said they have not heard anything about one. Speculation from other voices in the industry is that they are not doing one in June.
- Nintendo usually likes 2 months of marketing between announcement and release for a major title, and often one month for a smaller title. By big game I mean a full $60 physical release title and by smaller title I mean an eshop game.
- Nintendo generally has not had a big game in August, leaving that time for smaller titles and third parties, but usually has something big for September.
- Nintendo is confirmed to attend Gamescom in August. Last time they went was 2019 where they showed off soon to be released but previously announced titles like Luigi's Mansion 3.
- By August of this year they will have no dated, announced games.
Therefore, a July direct would be early enough to announce a big September game, as well as the rest of their holiday lineup. They will be able to market those games at Gamescom in August. They wouldn't need to do a September Direct, but could do something else later on, perhaps tied to the new hardware. I could see Nintendo going in early August at the latest, but July seems like the best bet. Any new Twitter drops or a June Partner Showcase could change my prediction.
- No one has said a peep about a June Direct. In fact, some of the people we normally would look to for info have said they have not heard anything about one. Speculation from other voices in the industry is that they are not doing one in June.
- Nintendo usually likes 2 months of marketing between announcement and release for a major title, and often one month for a smaller title. By big game I mean a full $60 physical release title and by smaller title I mean an eshop game.
- Nintendo generally has not had a big game in August, leaving that time for smaller titles and third parties, but usually has something big for September.
- Nintendo is confirmed to attend Gamescom in August. Last time they went was 2019 where they showed off soon to be released but previously announced titles like Luigi's Mansion 3.
- By August of this year they will have no dated, announced games.
Therefore, a July direct would be early enough to announce a big September game, as well as the rest of their holiday lineup. They will be able to market those games at Gamescom in August. They wouldn't need to do a September Direct, but could do something else later on, perhaps tied to the new hardware. I could see Nintendo going in early August at the latest, but July seems like the best bet. Any new Twitter drops or a June Partner Showcase could change my prediction.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always got the impression that they just canceled a "Pro" model that would run games at higher spec, but those games were always going to be on Switch anyway, so it's not a huge thing other than maybe having to make sure they run better on the base Switch. Not something that would cause a significant software pipeline issue.
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Are ya'll still expecting 2D Mario and DK on OG Switch?
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I would be so sad if DK completely missed the Switch. While I hope the Switch successor is a big success, it's not a guarantee and I really want DK to succeed. It being on Switch would do big numbers as evident by so many franchises breaking records on the system.
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Actually, it’s strange. Mario would make sense now because of the movie but it’s more suited for a new console.
Mario sells systems while DK needs a big install base. So actually it would make more sense to have DK this year and Mario (even both 2D and 3D) next.
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I think I might be joining the pessimists here. We're three days into June and we've still heard nothing. It's never this quiet. My theory was that we'd see a Direct on the week of the 11th so Nintendo would be able to showcase Pikmin 4 one last time, but I don't know. I think we'll get Twitter Directs for Pikmin 4, Mario Kart DLC, Splatoon 3 Side Order, and a September game this summer.
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This was the impression I was under as well, that they had a beefed-up Switch that would act as part of the same family, run all the same games (save for a few 3rd party exclusives that had apparently been heard about) and that got cancelled, repurposed into the OLED, as they decided to go all-in on a fully new generation.
It would also line up with how there have been even some first party games struggling a bit with the Switch hardware lately and having to render below native and upscale, like maybe they were initiy targeting "optimal" performance on the Pro but then had to make do with the base chip in the end.
I'm just connecting dots for fun here, not tryina stir a pot or anything.
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I do and I expect both in a same game. A long awaited sequel to Donkey Kong 94!
July is such a weird month for a direct but I can't discredit it because Nintendo is just weird with their marketing so anything goes I guess.
I'm expecting Grubb to give a little nugget soon. He's always more forthcoming with things he's heard whereas Nate goes the safer route of waiting within a week or a couple days of announcement to put out something.
I'm leaning to if june is happening it's later in the month. I just don't have a strong stance though.
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The only reason a general is needed is to announce big games like a new 2D Mario, DK or show off Metroid Prime 4. You can’t go past July and announce Mario/DK in a general if they’re coming this year. All these other port rumors like F-Zero, Kid Icarus, Paper Mario can all be in a Mini Direct. Third party games can be in a Partner Direct.
Still nothing heard from insiders. Maybe a Mini is dropped this month, but when are you announcing the big holiday title? Or there’s a General Direct in July. I’m leaning to a General in July.
Still nothing heard from insiders. Maybe a Mini is dropped this month, but when are you announcing the big holiday title? Or there’s a General Direct in July. I’m leaning to a General in July.
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Team September leading 
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If Team June has a million fans, I’m one of them. If Team June has ten fans, I’m one of them. If Team June has one fan, it’s @LukasManak22 and I’m dead. If Team June has no fans, neither Lukas nor I are alive, but I’ll be damned if we didn’t go out swinging.
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It really does feel like the minority "common sense" opinion. If leakers still have any Direct contacts at all June is out. Nothing really slots into July because of Pikmin. They need to have something before Gamescom. Therefore, about two weeks after Pikmin, sometime in the first two weeks of August, is intuitive.The few, the proud
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I don't think there'll be a Direct until late June at the earliest, but once July rolls around, that's only 2 months until the September Direct, and I can't see that getting pushed due to TGS.
Maybe a mini in July with just 3rd parties plus 1 or 2 first party holiday games?
Maybe a mini in July with just 3rd parties plus 1 or 2 first party holiday games?
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That's the thing, if we already had a September or October game roughly dated or announced, I would think we'd be looking at a Partner Direct and then coasting until the TGS Direct as usual. But without that, I really don't know.
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Team September is honestly just people from Team January so I don't blame them.
ok ok, you've convinced me lol
LukasManak22
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So it begins
June General Direct until the second I die.
- Twitter Direct
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- they will shadowdrop a Mini
- September Direct
June General Direct until the second I die.
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I don’t get how Pikmin rules out July. You can have a direct the same month as a first party game release, that happens with most Directs. Just slot a Pikmin trailer in there.
But really, if a Direct happens in July or August we enter full anarchy and there’s no telling when the next one will happen. Even the dependable February isn’t safe.
But really, if a Direct happens in July or August we enter full anarchy and there’s no telling when the next one will happen. Even the dependable February isn’t safe.
LukasManak22
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when there was no smoke and people went a little insane lol??
excuse me but Pikmin 4 deserves room to breathe. Nintendo should go silent.
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June still makes the most sense to me for the next Direct. You have only two games with a date, one of them already known to be terrible and one of them very quickly approaching in just a month and a half. You gotta have more than that on deck for the rest of the year, and you’re not gonna go all the way through to September coasting on Pikmin.
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But it usually happen after the release is out, not before that. It does not really make sense for them to promote other games just week or 2 before Pikmin, that's the time you suppose to be promote just Pikmin and nothing else.
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Here's my guesswork for a timeline:
July: Pikmin direct/marketing only
August: BK marketing, twitter drop for something small. Gamescom for bragging about how they built Zelda, and maybe some behind the scenes maneuvering for Switch 2.
September: General direct. New Mario or DK to close out the year, and maybe something else(Detective Pikachu?). Fire Emblem remake announced for early next year. Re-reveal of DQIII remake.
I think that covers the end of this year and runs them through to a point next year where they can start talking about hardware.
July: Pikmin direct/marketing only
August: BK marketing, twitter drop for something small. Gamescom for bragging about how they built Zelda, and maybe some behind the scenes maneuvering for Switch 2.
September: General direct. New Mario or DK to close out the year, and maybe something else(Detective Pikachu?). Fire Emblem remake announced for early next year. Re-reveal of DQIII remake.
I think that covers the end of this year and runs them through to a point next year where they can start talking about hardware.
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I'd find it really surprising if Nintendo went two whole months without a major release, especially since every month of 2023 has had at least one so far. I think we'll see another game revealed on Twitter in the next few weeks.
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NSMBU did not sold many Wii U units. I really think that 3D Mario is the best possible candidate as the next hardware launch game, and that's one of the reasons why I'm very optimistic about a 2D Mario release this year.
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I think something in July is also possible but in that case there would be only two months between July and September so one of the Directs has to be miniature, possibly even partners. Consolidating everything in August seems more straight forward
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July General Direct is not happening you all know it. Pikmin releases on July 21st. That means there is no July Direct from Monday 17th that week since that's Pikmin week (even Marine day in Japan on Monday), you have two other weeks remaning, the first week of July and second week of July. July 4th is a Holiday in America so that does rule out Direct or announcement that day, so that would only mean Direct on July 6th in that week (announcement on 5th).. For the second week, Satoru Iwata passed away on July 11th, absolutely nothing is happening on that day, so cross out July 11th Tuesday. Which means only possible date that week is announcement on July 12th for Direct on July 13th. So all in all, only 2 possible dates, July 6th and July 13th.
I don't recall Nintendo doing Direct the same month of their EPD release while actually doing presentation before the game comes out. Am not talking about schedule tied things like E3 Directs or something which had set date due to E3 schedule. They will not show other games just week of two before Pikmin "because Nintendo is weird sometimes". They will not promote anything week or two before Pikmin, it's just not happening.
To be clear am team June all the way but the idea of July Direct does not make sense to me, even more because that would destoy their pre-TGS Direct.
I don't recall Nintendo doing Direct the same month of their EPD release while actually doing presentation before the game comes out. Am not talking about schedule tied things like E3 Directs or something which had set date due to E3 schedule. They will not show other games just week of two before Pikmin "because Nintendo is weird sometimes". They will not promote anything week or two before Pikmin, it's just not happening.
To be clear am team June all the way but the idea of July Direct does not make sense to me, even more because that would destoy their pre-TGS Direct.
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No one is doing a September direct to announce a brand new 2D Mario or DK for release in the same year. Nintendo has never done that for good reasons.
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this line of reasoning is unironically why I'm Team August
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I was so confident in a General Direct for June until now. With no real smoke for that, I'm now leaning toward September. UGH.
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That even more crosses out the pre-TGS Direct though, even if the "August Direct" is early in the month it's still too close to September.
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They can do a general direct on July 6 or 13.
LukasManak22
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Week or 2 before Pikmin. At that point they can make Direct on June 22nd, which they will.
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I actually proposed the week of July 13 a couple weeks ago and I said that a July Direct would preclude the usual general Direct in September happening so I think we are on similar wavelengths actually @LukasManak22
just entertaining the hypothetical July anyway I voted for August
just entertaining the hypothetical July anyway I voted for August
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Thank you for leading me down a long-ass Wikipedia rabbit hole about the history of Nintendo’s six presidentsPretty sure you're thinking of N64-era Nintendo, after Yamauchi pissed all those devs off and told them not to develop for Nintendo consoles anymore after they requested discs for the N64.
SNES-era Nintendo has been the Switch, with Square back and a ton of RPGs and platformers and Metroid and stuff
Edit: in case it's not clear, I'm mostly just poking fun here
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