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StarTopic Marvel Cinematic Universe |ST| The Eternal Universe

Josh5890 said:
I totally agree on the Adam part. It felt like they had set him up at the end of 2, but then didn't know what to do with the character. There is a theory/rumor going around that the whole firing/unfiring of Gunn lead to two scripts and other changes. No idea if it is true or not.
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Pretty sure Adam Warlock is meant to be a victim of abuse in the same way Rocket is. He essentially has a childlike personality, which is very inline with how the early appearances of him were portrayed in the comics but also ties into the themes of this movie because he's very much a pet that doesn't know nuance (showcased by how when Ayesha asks him to show the captured Ravager they mean business he just kills the guy) or understands fully his world (yet). By the end of the movie, he's actually beginning to understand nuance (something notably showcased by his very transitional smile as he sees the people enjoying themselves around him).
 
GOTG3 was fantastic. Easily the most emotional an MCU movie has made me, and a great finale to the trilogy. A bit overly long and some elements didn’t work for me but it was just what it needed to be.

I’m one of those people who got burned out on the MCU after Endgame, despite being obsessed with it years ago, but I always kinda knew Gunn would deliver and this would be the last MCU movie I would be looking forward to in a long time. I could never watch another MCU movie and I’d be satisfied. Will I? Well… we’ll see!

MaitreWakou said:
I'm honestly kinda expecting it to be a real closure for me for the MCU.
I'll still watch it, but emotionally I won't be there anymore, I'll just grab the popcorn and consume from a distance whatever they throw at us. (Kinda scared of the non-sense that will be their Secret Wars adaptation tbf, the obvious cameo-fest it will be might just be insufferable to me)
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Seeing this now, damn this post describes me to a T honestly. Ever since Endgame I've felt like I was mostly sleepwalking through the MCU, just no real investment left even if I liked some of the movies (even NWH was in a lot of ways more of an epilogue to the Raimi and Webb movies than its own thing, which is fine). But this really felt like my own emotional closure to the franchise. None of the announced movies so far have excited me really much at all, and I can't rule out seeing them, but I feel like this is a good end point for me, in a lot of ways. Kinda fitting since it's 15 years this month Iron Man came out.
 
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Just watched GOTG 3 and I didn't really like it. The emotional bits felt really cheap and the way the story was told made the ending unearned.
 
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robertman2 said:
No Spider-Verse thread so I'm posting here

Across the Spider-Verse might be the most underwhelmed I've been by a movie since like, Matrix Resurrections, maybe?
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I haven't seen it yet, but I'm disappointed that it was split into two parts. We really loved the first one. I'm looking forward to seeing it hopefully over the weekend, and checking out the soundtrack too.
 
robertman2 said:
No Spider-Verse thread so I'm posting here

Across the Spider-Verse might be the most underwhelmed I've been by a movie since like, Matrix Resurrections, maybe?
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I haven't seen it yet, but I'm disappointed that it was split into two parts. We really loved the first one. I'm looking forward to seeing it hopefully over the weekend, and checking out the soundtrack too.
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Just watched it today. For the record, I have the first one as one of my favorite animated movies. This one has me a bit conflicted.

I enjoyed it a fair bunch, but it does feel all over the place and definitely less "compact" than the first one. The split seems to have hurt it in a pretty hard to explain way.

It feels to me like they decided to go for a more epic, grandiose movie than the first one was; realized they were running too long with it; decided to split it in two parts and this then conditioned them having to overdevelop each part so it felt like a "full movie"; but also the plot sort of just starts halfway through the thing and never actually gets anything resolved.

In a sense it feels like there's around three diferent movies fighting to get to show half of a movie, sort of.
 
I was actually pleasantly surprised by how much it holds its own as a sequel to the first movie, and not just as the first part of a seperate movie. Was fairly pessimistic based on the marketing and pre-release chatter; not about it being a visual treat of course, it looks as amazing as you'd expect from the first. The big three fears for me were:
  1. They would overinflate the scope with so many Spider-People and lose focus of Miles' (and Gwen's) story.
  2. Some eyeroll enducing jokes from the recent commercials (that didn't make the final cut thankfully); and worst of all
  3. Amy Pascal's comment about a love triangle / jealousy subplot. Was so concerned such a tired cliche would take up a notable part of the film and just drag down the whole thing.
In the end that third point doesn't really exist, and the little running joke that does ends within the scene where Spider-Punk is introduced! Incredibly baffled by the mention of it now when it is a total non-factor.

Back to the start of the post though; I really do see this as a legitimate middle part of a trilogy; the first film is as relevant to this one as this film will be relevant to the third. They recontextualise a few parts of the first in clever ways that don't come off as cheap retcons. Many will now go back for a rewatch of ITSV and notice that, yep, the spider that bit Miles glitches out like everyone else misplaced from their universe does. Spot's backstory ties into the first film in logical ways (and funny ways; he's the guy Peter B. threw a bagel at); his rise from "villain of the week" to being treated as a serious threat turned out surprisingly well. Wouldn't have thought The Spot of all of Spider-Man's rogue gallery could work as one of the primary antagonists of a film.

The cliffhanger ending has me dying for the finale because, yeah, a lot is left unresolved; but the character beats that are resolved are very important. Miles comes full circle from his parent-teacher conference earlier in the film; resolving to not let his story be written by others (the couneler telling him to "stick to the script"; Miguel trying to ensure all canon events occur as planned; but Miles will do things his own way). Gwen comes out as Spider-Woman to her father in what is very easy to read as a trans allegory (allies don't hang up trans flags in their room or wear trans flag patches on their uniforms, let's be real; but even if you want to write that off the colour palette of the scene becoming blue, pink and white, Gwen's hair becoming the same colours during the peak of her emotional speech, the actual contents of their conversations at the start and end reflecting the real experiences of being disowned and accepted by family...). It's the middle part, we're at a low point, left with a bit of hope from Gwen's experience (both in having her superhero identity accepted by her parental figure, something Miles hopes is possible with his parents; and actually putting together the team to find him).

I can understand finding issue in the structure and pacing of the film though, especially with the marketing primarily focused on scenes from the second half; I feel it messed with expectations a bit (it certainly did for me). The introduction on Gwen's Earth is 20 minutes long; she's a secondary protagonist to Miles, and this is the film where we get the aforementioned emotional conclusion with her father; her relationship with Miles is an important part of his story too, so in the end the best you could do is shortening the action sequence with Renaissance Vulture. We don't leave Miles' Earth until the hour mark either; but that time goes towards establishing Spot and the important relationships and arcs (with his parents and later Gwen) that will define Miles in this film and the next. I can easily imagine how this story could've been conceptualised as the first half of a longer film, but I think they evolved the concept enough to justify that runtime; you'd usually find me critical of if a runtime over two hours is necessary, but I wasn't bored once with this one so I think it worked out fine.

Not everything hits the mark for me of course; out of all the Spider-People they focus on Margo feels the most like sequel set-up rather than a fleshed out character; she and Miles share a single moment before she is ready to betray the society and let him escape. Given her miniscule screentime I see why it played out this way though; but I want to see more of her next time around. Ben Reilly doesn't get anywhere near as much to do as Jessica Drew, but him being one-note is the point so that's fine by me, lol. Hobie was perfect though; definitely my favourite new face of Gwen's rebellion. One letdown from the stucture of the film is that we don't get a ton of Peter B. (and Mayday) this time; and I was happy to see Peni and her mech redesigned back to the comic's Eva Unit inspirations; but again, this is all set-up for the third one. Some of the cameos and easter eggs feel a bit forced too; pretty much anything live action besides Glover's Prowler; the Venomverse bit and the Tobey and Andrew archival footage took me out of it a little. Was nice to see and hear Spectacular though, since he is a fan favourite; but it's difficult to compete with Atari 2600 Green Goblin.

My perspective on the film could easily flip depending on if the third film sticks the landing or fumbles it though; Across the Spider-Verse is very much dependent on being the middle part of an overall incredible trilogy to truly be worth it.

I've been writing for so long when really I could've just said I liked it a lot! That can be the non-spoiler conclusion.
 
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Across the Spiderverse is a good movie.

I can see why some would argue that the movie might drag for a bit, but from a personal view I enjoyed every minute of it.

Like the original, it’s a personal movie and there is a lot time reserved for those personal moments; not just Miles. And I appreciate that a lot. That’s where the heart lies for Spider-Man in general and I think they did an excellent job of bringing that home. I mean it has Spider-Men/Women quipping, but it’s a serious movie in the right places.

The animation and action; just superb. It’s perfect. The worlds and art styles are truly amazing and a joy to watch

Spoilers:

- Can I give a compliment to Schwarzman for the Spot? Its always one of the more dorkier Spidey villains and that’s what he was… until he isn’t. Good stuff.

- I really liked the Gwen stuff. I know the background from the comics, but it was explained in movie form quite well. Gorgeous artstyle btw.

- Miles and his family remain the strongest part in the movie. Their connection, Miles sneaking around as Spidey, thinking what to do with all the secrecy… it’s good stuff.

- Oscar Isaac with one amazing Miguel O’Hara. Spot is the real villain, but Miguel is trying to do good things for the wrong reasons.

- Spider-Punk is the coolest dude ever.

- The cameo’s! We saw Garfield, Maguire, the Venom verse, Spectacular Spider-Man, Spidey Unlimited, Sony Spidey… I loved it when I saw Glover as the Prowler; but is he the MCU one? :3

- The total transformation of Peter B Parker from uninterested, lazy and anti-kids in the first to doting father in the second is great.

- Miles being the Prowler in Earth 42…oof.

- Yay! Spider Ham, Noir and Penni join the fight too.
 
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I really enjoyed Across the Spiderverse as well. It is currently a top 3 favorite for the year. I do think that the 2 hr 20 min runtime does feel a little long for what the plot gives you, but definitely worth several viewings!
 
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The first movie has one of the best scripts in a superhero film so this sequel had a lot to live up to. It was a great watch and a lot of fun but ultimately the first one was better. I think 3 has real potential though. Spoilers below!

The way it basically started twice - first with Gwen, then with Morales - really ground the pacing to a halt. And the villain role being split between Spot and Miguel was a lot less effective than Kingpin. Cliffhanger ending although I saw it coming felt a bit awkward and disjointed as well.

Great plot twists though. Once I realized Miles was in the wrong dimension before he even started glitching, it was ace. Good character moments for Miles and Gwen, even if I was bummed Peter B. had such a reduced role. The action scenes were fantastic but I don’t know if any were as good as the big collider battle in the first one - that one is just so clean and focused.

Some of the choices with the mythology were weird. Why is Ben Reilly an edgy 90s antihero? Since when was a cop dying so critical to Spider-Man that it’s the fabric connecting the universe together? Loved SSM Peter’s cameo, but is the implication that Stacy dies in his universe too?

Oh, and this wasn’t an issue for the rest of the movie, but the audio mixing on Gwen’s monologue was really bad. I swear I couldn’t understand straight up 40% of the words being said. I had trouble with some of Hobie’s dialogue as well but I can’t tell if that’s his accent or the sound mixing. Also gonna say I know the humor was at the expense of Miles being jealous, but the jokes implying Gwen was sleeping with Hobie were… weird to me. Just a joke that didn’t really click with me.

This sounds negative but I had a blast with the movie and I’m gonna see it again in theaters. If the first movie is a 10 I think this is a solid 8.5. But man the wait for the next one is gonna suck.
 
In regards to mythology questions;

- think several characters are a more exaggerated version of themselves; Spider-Man Noir isn’t as dramatic in the Noir comics, Spider-Punk isn’t as anti-establishment in other media and Spider-Ham is even a bit more serious in his earliest incarnations, but Ben Reilly is a product of ‘90’s edgelords (don’t get me started on the current mindset of the character) and they let Andy Samberg voice him. If there is one guy who can’t be serious it’s Samberg.

It’s not necessarily a cop, but a police captain. In every universe there are several constants: (a few exceptions like Miguel being the odd ones out)

  • a version of Uncle Ben (Uncle Aaron) dies
  • a version of a supporting character (a police captain in most multiverses) dies
  • a version of Spidey’s first true love (a few exceptions, like Miles) dies, in most cases, Gwen Stacy

All these three are character defining moments and the push the many Spider-Men or Women need to go on. And regrets the most in general.

Uncle Ben was the catalyst for many Spider-Men to respect the power they have and well you know with great power… in every universe this seems to be a returning theme.

And in every universe, there is an authority figure, a police captain in most universes, that supports Spider-Man; the death of Captain Stacy in the main 616 universe was a character defining moment as it marked the first “big” death after Uncle Ben; more importantly, even with Peter’s powers, this lesson he learns is that you can’t save everyone.

And all the Peters kind of accept this fate it seems. When we look at Captain Stacy, it kind of rings true. The 616 version dies, Ultimate Stacy dies and in the Amazing Spider-Man movie with Garfield Stacy dies as well. The only version left alive is the version in Spider-Gwen’s universe.

And well, we know that in most universes Gwen dies. Spiderverse Gwen says so too; “in every universe Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man. And everytime it doesn’t go well”. (Yeah but Ultimate Gwen is alive an- sssshhh she’s a Carnage clone)

Kind of sucks, as apparantly in every universe Ben Parker and Gwen Stacy die, that’s the constant
 
Sadist said:
In regards to mythology questions;

- think several characters are a more exaggerated version of themselves; Spider-Man Noir isn’t as dramatic in the Noir comics, Spider-Punk isn’t as anti-establishment in other media and Spider-Ham is even a bit more serious in his earliest incarnations, but Ben Reilly is a product of ‘90’s edgelords (don’t get me started on the current mindset of the character) and they let Andy Samberg voice him. If there is one guy who can’t be serious it’s Samberg.

It’s not necessarily a cop, but a police captain. In every universe there are several constants: (a few exceptions like Miguel being the odd ones out)

  • a version of Uncle Ben (Uncle Aaron) dies
  • a version of a supporting character (a police captain in most multiverses) dies
  • a version of Spidey’s first true love (a few exceptions, like Miles) dies, in most cases, Gwen Stacy

All these three are character defining moments and the push the many Spider-Men or Women need to go on. And regrets the most in general.

Uncle Ben was the catalyst for many Spider-Men to respect the power they have and well you know with great power… in every universe this seems to be a returning theme.

And in every universe, there is an authority figure, a police captain in most universes, that supports Spider-Man; the death of Captain Stacy in the main 616 universe was a character defining moment as it marked the first “big” death after Uncle Ben; more importantly, even with Peter’s powers, this lesson he learns is that you can’t save everyone.

And all the Peters kind of accept this fate it seems. When we look at Captain Stacy, it kind of rings true. The 616 version dies, Ultimate Stacy dies and in the Amazing Spider-Man movie with Garfield Stacy dies as well. The only version left alive is the version in Spider-Gwen’s universe.

And well, we know that in most universes Gwen dies. Spiderverse Gwen says so too; “in every universe Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man. And everytime it doesn’t go well”. (Yeah but Ultimate Gwen is alive an- sssshhh she’s a Carnage clone)

Kind of sucks, as apparantly in every universe Ben Parker and Gwen Stacy die, that’s the constant
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My issue is…

There are multiple adaptations of Spider-Man where Captain Stacy doesn’t die, or straight up doesn’t exist. I think trying to make a police captain’s death an essential part of Spider-Man mythos feels like a stretch. It would have worked better if they were just like “during Spider-Man’s career, he will have loved ones die,” rather than something so specific.
 
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Oh the reactions are going there. I'll just quote me from the trailer thread then.

MaitreWakou said:
Kinda sad it ends on such a big cliffhanger, they went full on Pirates of the Carribean 2 with that cliffhanger.

I loved Donald Glover's appearance. I don't give a single fuck about the MCU's Spider-Man, I hate those films, but I do hope he'll get to play the Prowler with that amazing suit.
Spider-Gwen was amazing.

I was really moved by the whole parenting theme of the film. And the writting of Miles and Gwen relation with their parents was so realistic and not annoying at all. That kind of subject is so easy to fuck up and just make the teenagers annoying, but they nailed it.

Being a first part of a two part movie, the structure felt a bit weird to me. You never really know if it's about to end or not, and the fight between Miles and Miguel on the train for the moon felt to me like the climax, but it still ended up lasting longer than what I expected after that, even though it did was the climatic last fight of the film. I guess that's the kind of things that will just don't matter once we have the second part, and that we'll be able to just watch the two films back to back as I imagine it's intended to.
I'm not an anti-spoiler guy, but I do enjoy to watch some films without knowing what's going to happen, but that's actually a film I know I'll be able to enjoy more from now on knowing what happens, because I was constantly wondering ever since Miles meet with Miguel "is this gonna end soon ? God I hope not... But it feels like the film's been going on for a while... Are they going to save Miles' dad in this film or in the next one ? Is there really going to be a satisfying ending and not just a big cliffhanger ?".
It's one of those films in which I personally would have enjoyed my first time seeing it more knowing before hand what happens, or the structure of it.
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Deadpool 3 - May 2024
Captain America 4 - August 2024
Thunderbolts - December 2024
Blade - February 2025
Fantastic Four - May 2025
??? - July 2025
??? - November 2025
??? - February 2026
Avengers: Kang Dynasty - May 2026
??? - July 2026
??? - November 2026
Avengers: Secret Wars - May 2027

IIRC, Armored Wars and Shang Chai 2 were announced already and there is a rumored sequel to Eternals as well.

Honestly, I don't think Disney minds delaying the Avengers films one year each while they sort out the Majors stuff.
 
A one year delay for Avengers is about what I expected. Won't be surprised if it gets delayed further. They don't have a script written and the strike is going strong, and apparently Loveness left the project, so right now they don't have a scenarist to write it, and won't be able to even search for one until the strike is over.
 
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Secret Invasion ep 1 is fun, but safe

Giving me light Winter Soldier vibes, I can dig it.

- I just love the dynamic between Jackson and Mendelsohn.
  • Post snap Fury is rusty as fuck. Still sly, but rusty.
  • Hill won’t be dead. I guess. Feels like the Fury death in Winter Soldier
 
Ep 2 is most definitely better

- Skrulls infiltrating high ranking figures is pretty cool. I like this premiss way more than the book, where it was essentially COPY ALL THE HEROES

- Fury vs. Rhodes, oh damn.

- The ending was.. what. Oh shit. Fury married a Skrull?
 
So I've been a bit behind, just getting to Quantumania, but what is it that people didn't like about this movie...? Like don't get me wrong, there's some stuff to poke at, and I'm not sure Scott and co were the best cast to carry this kind of movie, but I'm surprised at how poorly rated it was, and how much shit it got. I enjoyed it quite a bit more than a lot of the post Endgame movies.
 
Instro said:
So I've been a bit behind, just getting to Quantumania, but what is it that people didn't like about this movie...? Like don't get me wrong, there's some stuff to poke at, and I'm not sure Scott and co were the best cast to carry this kind of movie, but I'm surprised at how poorly rated it was, and how much shit it got. I enjoyed it quite a bit more than a lot of the post Endgame movies.
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It wasn’t terrible, but it felt very formulaic, like most of Phase 4 stuff.
 
Instro said:
So I've been a bit behind, just getting to Quantumania, but what is it that people didn't like about this movie...? Like don't get me wrong, there's some stuff to poke at, and I'm not sure Scott and co were the best cast to carry this kind of movie, but I'm surprised at how poorly rated it was, and how much shit it got. I enjoyed it quite a bit more than a lot of the post Endgame movies.
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Probably didn't help that they took away all the fun things that defined the first two Ant Man films. But then you go back and realize critics didn't really care about the first two films either anyway, so oh well.

Though I'll say, people shiting on its script... (because it looks like it's what people are blaming this film for the most). It's a MCU film, I have trouble seeing how it's any worse than your regular MCU script beyond the few excellent films it got.

I guess it's just MCU fatigue. But then you have something like No Way Home which has dozens of plot holes, is poorly edited (it's actually painful when you rewatch it, especially the final fight), looks kinda bad (CGI costumes everywhere and it's not even hidden, a few shots that make you think "why did you shot it like that ? You know about perspective, right ?"), but got rave reviews because of the nostalgia factor and the great performances. I'm not saying NWH is worse than Quantumania, but it's depressing to me that this one got so much rave reviews because as a film it feels very amateurish for such a big production, and as a Spider-Man fan, many things annoyed me. And on the other hand Quantumania which isn't that much worse got shitted on while also having great performances from the actors.

But I guess it didn't have Tobey and Andrew making a pause when they appear as if they were guest stars in a sitcom so that people can cheer in the theater lmao, so that explains why.

Dardan Sandiego said:
They're still filming despite the writer's strike? Chances are this is gonna be absolute dogshit
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Yeah. They have to strictly stick to the script and not change a single dialogue.
 
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Dardan Sandiego said:
They're still filming despite the writer's strike? Chances are this is gonna be absolute dogshit
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The director actually addressed this, saying that they have to stick to the script while filming but Reynolds will be able to go nuts in ADR and change whatever up because he's wearing a mask so his ADR doesn't have to match filmed lip movement.

Dunno if that's gonna work but 🤷‍♂️
 
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A bad Deadpool movie!? Sounds like it's keeping the series tradition alive. Glad they're still being true to the source material
 
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A bad Deadpool movie!? Sounds like it's keeping the series tradition alive. Glad they're still being true to the source material
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The funny thing is, I'd say Deadpool 2 is like, a 2 and a half star movie at best, and I'd STILL put it above most of the MCU stuff I've seen!

Deadpool 3 filming during a writers strike sounds like a recipe for disaster. A few months back we watched Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, another movie made during a writers strike and one of the worst I've seen in my entire life. Will the MCU sink to those lows?
 
I look forward to SAG striking so that Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are replaced with rocks with their faces painted on them, because the show must go on!
 
Alright, once again episode 4 in these MCU Disney+ shows always has some big moments.

Secret Invasion Ep4 was pretty good.
 
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Episode 4 was nice. It's picking up very fast and hopefully the next two episodes will be insane. The reveal was crazy

I wonder if Skrull War Machine is the villain of Armor Wars or the real Rhodes will come back in the end of this series.
 
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Episode 4 was nice. It's picking up very fast and hopefully the next two episodes will be insane. The reveal was crazy

I wonder if Skrull War Machine is the villain of Armor Wars or the real Rhodes will come back in the end of this series.
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I suspect all the captured high ranking politicians/tv personalities will be freed at the end. Armor Wars, from what I read, is more about Rhodey dealing with the legacy of Tony's tech and it fallng in the hands of the baddies. I can see them pulling out Justin Hammer for this
 
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I suspect all the captured high ranking politicians/tv personalities will be freed at the end. Armor Wars, from what I read, is more about Rhodey dealing with the legacy of Tony's tech and it fallng in the hands of the baddies. I can see them pulling out Justin Hammer for this
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I agree, Hammer is 100% coming back.
 
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sooooooo did Disney pull out the old Mortal Kombat rule and decide that blood is okay as long as it's not red? 😅

cuuuuz I just watched a fuckin headshot occur in frame on a Disney+ Marvel show
 
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sooooooo did Disney pull out the old Mortal Kombat rule and decide that blood is okay as long as it's not red? 😅

cuuuuz I just watched a fuckin headshot occur in frame on a Disney+ Marvel show
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There was a bunch of red blood too when the shootout in the Fury household happened.
 
Episode 5 was really short. Overall the show is just ok. I think that it needs a major reveal in the last episode or some kind of plot twist bomb to drop though.
 
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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3

Best MCU anything I’ve seen since No Way Home. May tug too hard on the heart strings at times though I was fine with it. James Gunn knows what he’s doing. Great to see the pay offs to various seeds he planted in the previous two movies.
  1. High Evolutionary was an excellent villain. A+ job by Chukwudi Iwuji. Bold choice to go with a completely irredeemable villain. The Guardians maybe defeated him too easily though.
  2. Gamora seemed rougher around the edges than she did in the first movie and Endgame. Overall, I liked the handling of the character and the choice to make this Rocket’s story rather than Peter/Gamora.
  3. Cosmo the Spacedog = 🤌. I love that her translated voice has a Russian accent. Great work by Maria Bakalova despite minimal dialog.
  4. Adam Warlock was fine. He’s weaved in well with High Evolutionary and Rocket.
  5. Ayesha was done dirty though.
Secret Invasion

Underwhelmed so far. I’ve been let down by the two MCU shows I was looking forward to the most (the other being Falcon and the Winter Soldier). Fridging Maria Hill = 👎. Talos’ unceremonious death = 👎. Fury deserved a better story than this.

Gravik isn’t a particularly engaging villain. Kingsley Ben-Adir seems bored playing him, a stark contrast to the actors playing the last two MCU villains I’ve seen (i.e. Kang and High Evolutionary).

Olivia Colman’s Sonya Falsworth is a delight.

Still going to watch the finale though I’m tempering my expectations.
 
New The Marvels trailer:



While I stubbornly refuse to go to theaters while paying for all of these streaming services, I’m looking forward to The Marvels.

I enjoyed Captain Marvel for the most part and didn’t agree with a lot of the criticisms about Brie Larson’s performance. I did not enjoy Monica handwaving away Wanda’s various crimes. Ms. Marvel was coolio though the ending was pretty weak and Kamala’s friend’s unrequited love for her has me yelling at clouds. Iman Vellani was perfect casting.

+1 for the Beastie Boys; -1 for the weird remix of Intergalactic in this trailer.

Slow clap for showing Fury in the trailers before Secret Invasion ended.
 
Yeah this trailer was pretty good. I've been looking forward to The Marvels ever since it was confirmed to feature our main three heroines. Plus I always saw the first Captain Marvel as a glorified origin story -> Avengers event type of thing, similar to the first Captain America.

I think it'll be a surprise to most, but maybe I'm just too optimistic and underestimating the amount of MCU fatigue people have now lol. I'll be there day one!
 
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Am i just crazy/missing info or has Marvel done barely any promotion and marketing for Loki season two? No trailer. No interview. Nothing. Last thing we got is the Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania post credit scene, and that was in February. It comes out in October. The Marvels which releases in November already has 2 trailers. What the fuck is Marvel thinking??? I know Jonathan Majors is in a bit of controversy and he might or might not have done some fucked up stuff...But this feels way too extreme to cancel ALL marketing and promotion just for that. I loved the first Loki season so naturally i'm quite excited for the second round, but it almost feels like i have nothing to be excited about.
 
Dutchie said:
Am i just crazy/missing info or has Marvel done barely any promotion and marketing for Loki season two? No trailer. No interview. Nothing. Last thing we got is the Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania post credit scene, and that was in February. It comes out in October. The Marvels which releases in November already has 2 trailers. What the fuck is Marvel thinking??? I know Jonathan Majors is in a bit of controversy and he might or might not have done some fucked up stuff...But this feels way too extreme to cancel ALL marketing and promotion just for that. I loved the first Loki season so naturally i'm quite excited for the second round, but it almost feels like i have nothing to be excited about.
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It might, maybe be partially due to the CEO shakeup, with the current CEO deciding they were pushing too hard and too quick under the previous one, and is wanting to space out Marvel content. That plus the crap going on with Majors is likely having them rethink a lot of things. Not assuming they'll be delaying Loki 2, but I think they did delay a film or two already and I wouldn't be surprised if they're at least talking about it and are being quiet until they decide.

Plus I know you already know about Majors so this is no news to you but.. like.. they built the entire next two phases around him, placing him as essentially the next Thanos. And now the type of trouble he's in is bad shit that they do not want swirling around their IP. They've got some serious shit to figure out.
 
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Secret Invasion finale was alright for the budget. Overall I liked the show, which is probably an unpopular opinion lol. Definitely in the lower tier of MCU Disney+ shows.
 
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Secret Invasion ending kind of felt flat.

- Disappointed that Hill and Talos are dead. Guess Smulders wanted out and I’m really sad the Fury-Talos bromance is dead.

- Gravik was mostly eh.

- The mother of dr- skr- uh you know who I mean was passable at best too.

- Olivia Colman was indeed the highlight of the show, easily.

- Sam Jackson is always enjoyable, so him having a somewhat happy ending is cool. His insults are always funny. “This is some real one term shit there Mr President” had me giggling.

- Overall, Secret Invasion again did not live up to its potential. To this day the only Marvel media to successfully show a Secret Invasion plotting is still the animated Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes show. I actually did like the approach of this SI, instead of just LETS REPLACE ALL THE SUPERHEROES, but I dunno, it felt too safe.

In terms of shows;

Hawkeye = Loki > Ms. Marvel > She-Hulk > Zemo clubbing > Wandavision > What If… > Secret Invasion > Falcon & the Winter Soldier
 
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