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Movie critics really aren't like game reviewers. Where in games, you just need the game to work properly like 25% of the time to get a 70/100 and above. Movie critics take the question a bit more literally of "did you like the movie".I'm not participating, but is it normal that scores on rotten tomatoes aren't that high? I almost never watch movies and stuff, so I don't pay much attention to these aggregate scores outside of gaming and tech.
I see, thanks for explaining!Movie critics really aren't like game reviewers. Where in games, you just need the game to work properly like 25% of the time to get a 70/100 and above. Movie critics take the question a bit more literally of "did you like the movie".
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UNITED WE STAND MY BRETHRENTeam Under 70%
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...We need to develop a way to wager famicoins...I'm going to be honest: I don't get the appeal of avatar bets and would much rather do real bets (with money). Avatar bets don't have any good outcomes (either I have to have an annoying avatar or someone else does).
I haven't seen it yet but the response I've heard from critic friends is that it's fun but thin - this ain't gonna be a 95% RT movie
Lol yeah, this is about the response I expected from this, at least from critics (not a slight). So it may be closer than we think!Not taking part in the bet myself, but I'll be ecstatic if it gets above a 70.
Dunno how much stock ViewerAnon has, but they said this on the BoxOfficeTheory forums:
Another user claimed they had seen it, and didn't like it - but ultimately said it was a harmless film.
So yeah, I think it'll be tight!
Not taking part in the bet myself, but I'll be ecstatic if it gets above a 70.
Dunno how much stock ViewerAnon has, but they said this on the BoxOfficeTheory forums:
Another user claimed they had seen it, and didn't like it - but ultimately said it was a harmless film.
So yeah, I think it'll be tight!
He later said there was 3 licensed songs.Yeah, the only thing that concerned me (personally) was the user who was lukewarm about it said they used multiple licensed songs. I guess that should be expected, but I thought we might have dodged that bullet.
I still expect a near 80 fresh score. Just seeing all the references and animation for anyone with a Mario attachment (which is probably most everyone) will propel it, even if the movie is typical illumination fare.
I should have wrote the specific number, but that is still 3 more than I expected after seeing all the trailers use original music.He said there was 3 licensed songs.
Considering (unfortunately) the quality of these two films, this is a very favorable rating.Looks like Sonic 1 is 64 and Sonic 2 is 69 for reference.
We can never be friendsConsidering (unfortunately) the quality of these two films, this is a very favorable rating.
Damn if that's how you feel about the Sonic movies, then how do you feel about Illumination movies. Because those are actually juvenile lolI'm sorry about that. I've seen both with my nephews, and I've always really liked Sonic, though I'm not a fanboy, but I really found it painful to watch. The writing was awful, in my opinion. And my biggest fear is that the Super Mario movie falls so far into facillity. Just because it's partly aimed at children doesn't mean it has to be silly.
I'm not really a fan of Illumination either, but at least, when they are silly, it's on purpose. Once again, I'm not a hater at all, and I understand the audience targeted here, but the total lack of characterisation and the very poor writing just felt like a sum up of everything we can dislike in the average blockbuster. I love Sonic. I barely cared about that guy during the movies, because nothing in the narrative made me want to empathise.Damn if that's how you feel about the Sonic movies, then how do you feel about Illumination movies. Because those are actually juvenile lol
If the characterization was your problem with Sonic, I'm not sure Mario will be as bad. Movie Sonic is much younger, much less confident, he acts like a kid, which can feel less relatable to adults. I'm not sure how the Mario movie will pan out critically-wise, but I trust Nintendo being there they will make sure Mario feels like Mario. That is, a very confident and gentle person with a lot of heart, who can be cool as heck, with the only change being him being less competent initially (and possibly insecure at times) than game Mario to give him character growth.I'm not really a fan of Illumination either, but at least, when they are silly, it's on purpose. Once again, I'm not a hater at all, and I understand the audience targeted here, but the total lack of characterisation and the very poor writing just felt like a sum up of everything we can dislike in the average blockbuster. I love Sonic. I barely cared about that guy during the movies, because nothing in the narrative made me want to empathise.
I'm not really a fan of Illumination either, but at least, when they are silly, it's on purpose. Once again, I'm not a hater at all, and I understand the audience targeted here, but the total lack of characterisation and the very poor writing just felt like a sum up of everything we can dislike in the average blockbuster. I love Sonic. I barely cared about that guy during the movies, because nothing in the narrative made me want to empathise.
I personally like when animated movies don't undercut their serious moments. Give me all the comedy you want. But treat your tenseful scenes with an actual sense of tension. I can also take a scene that's semi-serious but in that case, just keep comedy and drama alternating all-scene long, don't abruptly cut a grand epic scene with a joke, or make an actual set-up for the joke and tone shift. Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 do this very well, they are able to somehow weave drama and comedy with ease, those should be the textbook for doing action-comedies like this movie seems to be marketed as. There's also the subject matter that well, often an animated movie would be way stronger if it went all the way on its themes. The Mario movie's main theme seems to be perseverance, so I hope they take a full advantage of that theme in particular.I can't stress enough that this is just my personal opinion as well, of course. It has nothing to do with either Scrosese or the intended audience. My point is in fact precisely that there are plenty of popular films aimed at a family audience, especially children, that are both engaging and qualitative productions. I'm not asking for Scorsese, I'm just asking for any Pixar, for example. In comparison, what Illumination does, is at least cartoon-like in spirit, i.e. the tone is assumed, rather well, as absurd.
It's possible to dislike Sonic movies without wanting them to change their target audience, you know. But you are absolutely right, the second film is much worse than the first one. It's just a strange patchwork that vaguely tries to get somewhere with random dialogues.
I think it'll be a movie kids and Mario fans love but everyone else will be kinda lukewarm to. It'll be no Puss In Boots 2, that's for sure.Not taking part in the bet myself, but I'll be ecstatic if it gets above a 70.
Dunno how much stock ViewerAnon has, but they said this on the BoxOfficeTheory forums:
Another user claimed they had seen it, and didn't like it - but ultimately said it was a harmless film.
So yeah, I think it'll be tight!
Werewolves Within has a higher score (86%)BTW OP, the Tetris movie has now joined the ranks of the Certified Fresh. Making it the single most highly rated video game adaptation of all time.
10:30pm EST today.When does the social media embargo lift?