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Rumour New Switch model for Q4 2023

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Linkstrikesback said:
The Xbox 360 was around for 8 years, the PS3 was for 7, the ps4 and Xbox one consoles had 7 years before successors launched.

Anyone expecting a piece of hardware that's more successful than any of those, and seems to be holding strong with a much slower decline, to have been replaced quicker just isn't making sensible predictions.
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It's okay if generations take 7 years. PS3/4 and 360/One being 7-8 year long generations didn't stop people from complaining the hardware just wasn't getting it done anymore in the last couple years of their cycles.

It's okay for a system to go on for 7 years, but as a result of that people are going to complain about hardware power in their twilight years as other tech devices evolve around them.
 
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Tentacle-tropes said:
Well get ready to hear that but a different year the moment a port barely has any problems or minor technical difficulties. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if that shows up like day one with “this hardware is already 3yrs out of date”, “Nintendo is always 45 gens behind”, & “this looks like an Atari game.” It’s the greatest hits album that shows up every Nintendo console & never leaves.
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Yuppers. I’m dreading another 7 years of these comments after switch 2 launches.
 
AxkilAvenger said:
Yuppers. I’m dreading another 7 years of these comments after switch 2 launches.
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The situation will be different if they release this thing in time. Mobile hardware just made such a big jump since the Switch launched, and it’s yet to be seen if that continues (since technology doesn’t progress gradually, but in spikes). There’s a lot of things that come into play here.
 
goldenpp72 said:
It will never match the current dedicated consoles though, and that's always going to be what brings about the perpetual whining. The Switch has always been dunked on for being weak in specs as if people aren't aware it's a fraction of the physical size. It makes some sense for people to be complaining maybe the last year or so, but during the entire PS4/Xbox One run, it was just nonsense.
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I disagree with this. The real whining comes from publishers not bringing games that should be in the console. Switch 2 will have a “modern architecture” that allows it to be scalable even more than the original switch. Add in DLSS and hopefully we don’t have the same issues as right now. I’ve been perfectly fine with switch running games at 720-900p with stable 30fps. Most hardcare gamers feel the same especially having the ability to play on the go.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
The Xbox 360 was around for 8 years, the PS3 was for 7, the ps4 and Xbox one consoles had 7 years before successors launched.

Anyone expecting a piece of hardware that's more successful than any of those, and seems to be holding strong with a much slower decline, to have been replaced quicker just isn't making sensible predictions.
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I don't think Nintendo has soothsayers or flux capacitors, though, so recent sales have very little relevance.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I don't think Nintendo has soothsayers or flux capacitors, though, so recent sales have very little relevance.
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Yes, because market research involving little things like "How much is my product selling" can never factor in to any sort of decision making without time travel, you're absolutely right.

It's been obvious that the Switch was more successful than anything in the previous generations barring the DS for a long time, and that it was seeing a far later peak and slower decline too
 
Tron1 said:
I disagree with this. The real whining comes from publishers not bringing games that should be in the console. Switch 2 will have a “modern architecture” that allows it to be scalable even more than the original switch. Add in DLSS and hopefully we don’t have the same issues as right now. I’ve been perfectly fine with switch running games at 720-900p with stable 30fps. Most hardcare gamers feel the same especially having the ability to play on the go.
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Another Switch isn't going to fix the third party problem. If devs don't feel the need to port perfectly capable games (cough cough EA cough cough), that isn't going to change with new hardware.
 
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The number of 3rd parties that can fully take advantage of next-gen hardware is rapidly dwindling. The idea that 3rd party support will always be out of reach for Nintendo doesn't really ring true, because that would mean that 3rd party devs are matching the rate of hardware improvements, which just isn't the case. A bunch of AA devs are gonna stay in that PS4 range, and a Switch successor is in a great position to capture that market.

Will Nintendo ever be able to support the major AAA developers alongside PlayStation and Xbox? Probably not. But there's still a wealth of 3rd party support that Nintendo can capitalize on with newer hardware, support that isn't going to immediately outgrow Nintendo's next piece of hardware.
 
Tron1 said:
I disagree with this. The real whining comes from publishers not bringing games that should be in the console. Switch 2 will have a “modern architecture” that allows it to be scalable even more than the original switch. Add in DLSS and hopefully we don’t have the same issues as right now. I’ve been perfectly fine with switch running games at 720-900p with stable 30fps. Most hardcare gamers feel the same especially having the ability to play on the go.
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It won't change much, you might see a boost in a couple instances, but the Switch will continue to be second fiddle to third parties, a mild curiosity, not a focus. With these acquisition wars lately, it likely won't get better either. I'd not expect to see companies like EA throw their full weight into it for example, but you might see Capcom or Namco jump in stronger than they did initially, sure.

The reality is, there just isn't parity money for these companies on Nintendo, it's already been shown they don't spend anywhere near as much on things like microtransactions, etc for example, so only companies that fit the dynamic will really bother. We'll be lucky if we see GTAV ported to Switch while GTA6 skips it entirely.
 
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There's an update from the seemingly the same poster:

/vp/ - supplementary explanation - Pokémon - 4chan

supplementary explanation - "/vp/ - Pokémon" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to discussing the Pokémon series of video games and shows.
boards.4channel.org boards.4channel.org
I am the poster of this post. For identification, The original text of this MD5 HASH 'e9f5c537635560a719749701c5dbe4b6' is 'suka!bai!zero!'.
I'm not going to leak any more information. I just want to add some clarifications to the previous one.
The hexagon is not the third DLC title, but an element that is displayed many times in DLC.
The special Terastal appearance I mentioned is a new game mechanic that was not announced in the PV. Some Pokémon will acquire new Terrastal forms.
The new Switch model I mentioned is 「次世代機」. Also, As far as I know, DLC2 is scheduled to be released in early 2024.
Other contents have already been announced.
Sorry for the unclearness before.
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The hash checks out, and I don't think MD5 is too broken to trust that at this point. This at least gives more information to look for in upcoming trailers for verification.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
Yes, because market research involving little things like "How much is my product selling" can never factor in to any sort of decision making without time travel, you're absolutely right.
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"How much is my product selling in 2021" might have an effect on a 2023 launch, but anything beyond that would take something abnormal to get better than the guesses everyone can make. I do think remote viewing is more likely than time travel, though.
It's been obvious that the Switch was more successful than anything in the previous generations barring the DS for a long time, and that it was seeing a far later peak and slower decline too
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Switch hardware's peak and decline is matching DS's incredibly closely. For both the peak was the year consisting of quarters 14-17. By the most recent year (quarters 21-24) Switch is 34% down from that while at the same time DS was down 30%. If in earlier years they did forecast Switch to behave like DS, I guess the lesson they learned from DS was to not have replaced it so soon.
 
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Pokemaniac said:
There's an update from the seemingly the same poster:

/vp/ - supplementary explanation - Pokémon - 4chan

supplementary explanation - "/vp/ - Pokémon" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to discussing the Pokémon series of video games and shows.
boards.4channel.org boards.4channel.org

The hash checks out, and I don't think MD5 is too broken to trust that at this point. This at least gives more information to look for in upcoming trailers for verification.
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This is good for clarifying what was meant by new hardware and the enhancement patch, since some people had other interpretations. But if the new info about a Terastal mechanic is true, it seems a bit easy to guess, no? And even if we took it as a real leak, that only proves inside knowledge of Pokémon, not hardware.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I don't think Nintendo has soothsayers or flux capacitors, though, so recent sales have very little relevance.
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I sure hope you don't think companies don't have a good feel for this kind of thing, the Switch wasn't exactly a slow burn to start, it outsold the Wii Us entire life within the first year while its key games broke records immediately, and Nintendo has plenty of valuable data to see spending habits of their userbase, engagement, etc, to trend all this sort of thing, far more data than we will ever see.

It's funny to think these companies magically all come to the same conclusions somehow, it's just data. It's also funny that people think Switch 2 if it were a 'generic power upgrade' would somehow sell much worse, considering the excessive engagement the Switch has seen through its life. It would need to sport a pathetic lineup for that to occur, it's not a fad system, because people are using the hell out of it still.
 
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How big third party games can potentially sell I think is often overlooked and underrated. Even with how well crazy well Nintendo has been doing hardwares sales wise and first party games sales wise, Microsoft and Sony still have have higher revenues as far as their gaming divisions go. Yeah, they do spend much more than Nintendo does, but it does speak for how much a difference 3rd party support can make (and why Sony has been fighting so damn hard to prevent the future loss of CoD lol). So while spending as much as the other guys might not be the smartest move, finding that right balance could potentially go a long way.

There’s a pretty well made and if informative thread here from the other day:
 
Pokemaniac said:
There's an update from the seemingly the same poster:

/vp/ - supplementary explanation - Pokémon - 4chan

supplementary explanation - "/vp/ - Pokémon" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to discussing the Pokémon series of video games and shows.
boards.4channel.org boards.4channel.org

The hash checks out, and I don't think MD5 is too broken to trust that at this point. This at least gives more information to look for in upcoming trailers for verification.
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We'll find about if this is real pretty soon. Next update for the DLC's should be around May or June and if different tera form Pokémon is real, it should be there.
 
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LiC said:
This is good for clarifying what was meant by new hardware and the enhancement patch, since some people had other interpretations. But if the new info about a Terastal mechanic is true, it seems a bit easy to guess, no? And even if we took it as a real leak, that only proves inside knowledge of Pokémon, not hardware.
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Attaching that mechanic to Ogerpon instead of Terapagos is interesting, because Terapagos is the one that has a bunch of in game lore already suggesting it has some connection to the Terastall phenomenon, as well as having basically the Terastall symbol in the middle of its shell. The crystal pattern on Ogerpon's mask could suggest some connection as well, but it's not the one I'd personally single out as having new Tera mechanics between the two. It's certainly not a very out there guess, but it is at least something I think has a chance of being wrong, as the trailer seems to suggest more of a form change based gimmick so far, with no clear indication of how it would work. The fact that this is tied to a mechanic does mean that it's very likely to appear in future trailers, though. If it was just the appearance, it probably wouldn't have.
 
LiC said:
This is good for clarifying what was meant by new hardware and the enhancement patch, since some people had other interpretations. But if the new info about a Terastal mechanic is true, it seems a bit easy to guess, no? And even if we took it as a real leak, that only proves inside knowledge of Pokémon, not hardware.
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Pokemaniac said:
Attaching that mechanic to Ogerpon instead of Terapagos is interesting, because Terapagos is the one that has a bunch of in game lore already suggesting it has some connection to the Terastall phenomenon, as well as having basically the Terastall symbol in the middle of its shell. The crystal pattern on Ogerpon's mask could suggest some connection as well, but it's not the one I'd personally single out as having new Tera mechanics between the two. It's certainly not a very out there guess, but it is at least something I think has a chance of being wrong, as the trailer seems to suggest more of a form change based gimmick so far, with no clear indication of how it would work. The fact that this is tied to a mechanic does mean that it's very likely to appear in future trailers, though. If it was just the appearance, it probably wouldn't have.
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Reading the clarification again, the Terastall line could have been standalone and just a general new mechanic. A form change mechanic with some connection to the generation's gimmick is a relatively safe prediction, though having it be part of the gimmick rather than kinda adjacent to it is something that could go either way.
 
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JorgenRaft said:
How big third party games can potentially sell I think is often overlooked and underrated. Even with how well crazy well Nintendo has been doing hardwares sales wise and first party games sales wise, Microsoft and Sony still have have higher revenues as far as their gaming divisions go. Yeah, they do spend much more than Nintendo does, but it does speak for how much a difference 3rd party support can make (and why Sony has been fighting so damn hard to prevent the future loss of CoD lol). So while spending as much as the other guys might not be the smartest move, finding that right balance could potentially go a long way.

There’s a pretty well made and if informative thread here from the other day:
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Microsoft and Sony are using different methods when accounting for 3rd party sales for revenue. Nintendo only counted a 30% cut for 3rd party digital sales, while both Microsoft and Sony counted 100%.

I don't get how the hell this guy came up with 3.4 billion USD for Nintendo's operating profits in CY2022 when the actual numbers are closer to 4 billion USD.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
Lol 'better grafix and framez' is basically the only thing changing between gens anymore so you're going to be disappointed no matter what.
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While that's true for the industry at large I think we'll be pleasantly surprised at what nintendo is able to do with better horsepower. The other two are trying to sell performance and pixels to be sure I do however have hope in my heart that there will come a day when they can't sell us on those things alone anymore.

It will come down to art, design, and gameplay to set yourself apart and Nintendo will once again be the trailblazer. I hope anyway.
 
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Tron1 said:
I disagree with this. The real whining comes from publishers not bringing games that should be in the console. Switch 2 will have a “modern architecture” that allows it to be scalable even more than the original switch. Add in DLSS and hopefully we don’t have the same issues as right now. I’ve been perfectly fine with switch running games at 720-900p with stable 30fps. Most hardcare gamers feel the same especially having the ability to play on the go.
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More scalable than the OG Switch? How do we know this without the actual console being released? And yes I am aware aware of the Nvidia leak and the info that came from it. I think we should be cautious casually throwing information like this around.
 
AxkilAvenger said:
More scalable than the OG Switch? How do we know this without the actual console being released? And yes I am aware aware of the Nvidia leak and the info that came from it. I think we should be cautious casually throwing information like this around.
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Games are more scalable than ever. As long as you got the cpu and ram for it, you can pretty much run any game provided the devs let you go crazy enough with the settings (and if not, that's what ini settings are for)
 
JorgenRaft said:
How big third party games can potentially sell I think is often overlooked and underrated. Even with how well crazy well Nintendo has been doing hardwares sales wise and first party games sales wise, Microsoft and Sony still have have higher revenues as far as their gaming divisions go. Yeah, they do spend much more than Nintendo does, but it does speak for how much a difference 3rd party support can make (and why Sony has been fighting so damn hard to prevent the future loss of CoD lol). So while spending as much as the other guys might not be the smartest move, finding that right balance could potentially go a long way.

There’s a pretty well made and if informative thread here from the other day:
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Those figures look wrong. Xbox and Sony does have a leg up with their online subscriptions being 5x+ more than the NSO but you don't get to a billion of software sold and still be algging the Xbox.

As per above, it looks like it's the dfifference between how revneue is counted for 3rd party sales. Nintendo counts their 30% cut, the other two count the full sale price. if you include that it's probably Sony>Nintendo>>>Xbox
 
Yeah, I'm not sure if he accounted for the cuts or not. The bigger point was that Nintendo could be doing some tremendous numbers if they had a bigger third party draw on top of how well their consoles and own games sell.

But again, it's just a tricky balance because they already profit so well by not spending as much as the other guys on their hardware and software.
 
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AxkilAvenger said:
More scalable than the OG Switch? How do we know this without the actual console being released? And yes I am aware aware of the Nvidia leak and the info that came from it. I think we should be cautious casually throwing information like this around.
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Yes. This isn’t something outlandish to say. You are talking about 5-7 years in tech advancement, not to mention Nvidia is one of the best in the business. This is not something to be cautious about.
 
Tron1 said:
Yes. This isn’t something outlandish to say. You are talking about 5-7 years in tech advancement, not to mention Nvidia is one of the best in the business. This is not something to be cautious about.
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Time will tell. I’m just keeping my expectations in check.
 
goldenpp72 said:
Somewhat, but it's still a bit nonsense because the standard has been set for console generations repeatedly now, they aren't 4 or 5 years by default anymore, usually only reserved for failures at this point. Switch is now the third highest selling system of all time and still selling strong enough to keep going, it makes no sense to expect it to die just because people can't wait out what is a normal console cycle these days.

Unless Switch 2 is a failure, you can expect a solid 7-8 years out of that as well, shocking as that might be to some. When games like BOTW take 5+ years to make these days, it makes no sense to expect console cycles to last that long.
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The Switch can live on for at least a few more years even after Switch 2 hits shelves
 
Hairway to Steven said:
The Switch can live on for at least a few more years even after Switch 2 hits shelves
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It won't, not hardware sales wise anyways, just like the 3DS didn't, and the Switch will be even more pointless than that was once the successor hits. That doesn't mean some games won't be made for both of course, but unit sales for the Switch 1 will likely crater unless Nintendo actually drops the price for the system (which isn't looking good either)

I'm sure Nintendo will offer plenty of 'cross platform' software to pad the lineup where applicable, but no more exclusives for it by nature just like how MS and Sony handle it when they move along, also, those systems basically stopped being sold within a year of their successors as well if I recall.
 
goldenpp72 said:
It won't, not hardware sales wise anyways, just like the 3DS didn't, and the Switch will be even more pointless than that was once the successor hits. That doesn't mean some games won't be made for both of course, but unit sales for the Switch 1 will likely crater unless Nintendo actually drops the price for the system (which isn't looking good either)

I'm sure Nintendo will offer plenty of 'cross platform' software to pad the lineup where applicable, but no more exclusives for it by nature just like how MS and Sony handle it when they move along, also, those systems basically stopped being sold within a year of their successors as well if I recall.
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What I meant is that it would still receive software for a few more years, although most of it will be cross-gen.
 
Tron1 said:
I disagree with this. The real whining comes from publishers not bringing games that should be in the console. Switch 2 will have a “modern architecture” that allows it to be scalable even more than the original switch.
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A new Switch model with much more “modern architecture” won’t have ANY more 3rd party support…in neither quality nor quantity…than what the original Switch had in the last 6 years.

It will be about the same support we have seen.

Thunder84 said:
The number of 3rd parties that can fully take advantage of next-gen hardware is rapidly dwindling. The idea that 3rd party support will always be out of reach for Nintendo doesn't really ring true, because that would mean that 3rd party devs are matching the rate of hardware improvements, which just isn't the case. A bunch of AA devs are gonna stay in that PS4 range, and a Switch successor is in a great position to capture that market.
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Those AA devs staying in that “ps4 range” could have already ported their games to the current Switch models if they really wanted to and saw an opportunity for significant sales.

If they haven’t already, it was because of low expectation of demand for their title…not because of the architecture.

A new, more powerful model doesn’t change this equation.

If devs/publishers of an AA “ps4 range” game are going to bother with porting to the Nintendo userbase, there is no way they would ignore the current 100 million Switch userbase and focus on the “New Switch model” as an exclusive anyways.

The idea is appealing to a larger Nintendo userbase…not focus on the much smaller Nintendo userbase just to make the theoretically best looking IQ wise portable console game they can make.

These decisions are always made on expected demand/sales…not output quality goals.

JorgenRaft said:
How big third party games can potentially sell I think is often overlooked and underrated. Even with how well crazy well Nintendo has been doing hardwares sales wise and first party games sales wise, Microsoft and Sony still have have higher revenues as far as their gaming divisions go. Yeah, they do spend much more than Nintendo does, but it does speak for how much a difference 3rd party support can make (and why Sony has been fighting so damn hard to prevent the future loss of CoD lol). So while spending as much as the other guys might not be the smartest move, finding that right balance could potentially go a long way.
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It’s foolhardy to compare Nintendo with Xbox/ps in terms of software.

Xbox/ps success is almost entirely based on how much they control the 3rd party gaming market.

Nintendo success is almost entire based on its 1st party performance.

Completely different goals/strategies.

Nintendo would actually diminish their 1st party sales/appeal the more they took steps to compete for 3rd party sales like xbox/ps do. That’s why they don’t. That’s why they shouldn’t.

In order to increase 3rd party software sales, Nintendo would have to craft its hardware, redesign its online gaming services, and completely change their 1st party output to do this. To make 3rd party software make up 80% of sales like the Xbox/ps instead of Nintendo games making 80% of software sales.

Not gonna happen.

Atheerios said:
In the update the leaker mentions 次世代機. That's a successor, not a revision
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What’s the translation of that that suggests that? Why is that the only thing not translated?

goldenpp72 said:
It won't, not hardware sales wise anyways, just like the 3DS didn't, and the Switch will be even more pointless than that was once the successor hits.
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That’s a bad argument.

The 3ds sold ~7 million units the FY before the Switch released.

The Switch will have sold ~20 million units this FY.

By 2017, all Nintendo software development focused entirely on the Switch. Any game that would have been a portable Nintendo title went to the Switch instead of the 3ds. This is why the 3ds died so quickly.

In 2023/2024, at least 99% of Nintendo games will still be focused to run on current Switch models.

You think the OLED Switch will lose almost all support in 2024? lol

In 2017/2018 most Nintendo software was bought for the Switch, not the 3ds. In 2023/2024/2025, most Nintendo software will be bought for the models that are currently on the market now, not the new model.
 
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goldenpp72 said:
It won't, not hardware sales wise anyways, just like the 3DS didn't, and the Switch will be even more pointless than that was once the successor hits. That doesn't mean some games won't be made for both of course, but unit sales for the Switch 1 will likely crater unless Nintendo actually drops the price for the system (which isn't looking good either)

I'm sure Nintendo will offer plenty of 'cross platform' software to pad the lineup where applicable, but no more exclusives for it by nature just like how MS and Sony handle it when they move along, also, those systems basically stopped being sold within a year of their successors as well if I recall.
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The 3DS sold more units and software the financial year following the switch release than the year before. It was only two full FYS later that a significant drop-off happened. So, 'just like the 3ds didn't ' means nothing, because the 3DS did.
 
My Tulpa said:
A new Switch model with much more “modern architecture” won’t have ANY more 3rd party support…in neither quality nor quantity…than what the original Switch had in the last 6 years.

It will be about the same support we have seen.
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It will easily have stronger 3rd party support from start than current Switch had, because Wii U fail, plenty of 3rd partys was very reserved about Switch support,
but now Switch is smashing success and they will support succesor much stronger from start than they did with current Switch.

Also, this time is easier for 3rd partys, because still most of 3rd party games are cross gen that are getting released to PS4 also, and Switch 2 should be at least strong similar to PS4,
so doing ports would be much easyere.
Talking about only next gen games, most games on PS5/XsX targeting 4K resolution, so they could do ports for Switch running at around 720p-1080p for very demanding games.
Game cartridges should also be bigger, and that was another limiting factor for current Switch when comes to big 3rd party games.

So those are things take make quite a difference compared to current Switch and should mean better 3rd party support from start and better 3rd party support when comes to big games.
 
Simba1 said:
It will easily have stronger 3rd party support from start than current Switch had, because Wii U fail, plenty of 3rd partys was very reserved about Switch support,
but now Switch is smashing success and they will support succesor much stronger from start than they did with current Switch.

Also, this time is easier for 3rd partys, because still most of 3rd party games are cross gen that are getting released to PS4 also, and Switch 2 should be at least strong similar to PS4,
so doing ports would be much easyere.
Talking about only next gen games, most games on PS5/XsX targeting 4K resolution, so they could do ports for Switch running at around 720p-1080p for very demanding games.
Game cartridges should also be bigger, and that was another limiting factor for current Switch when comes to big 3rd party games.

So those are things take make quite a difference compared to current Switch and should mean better 3rd party support from start and better 3rd party support when comes to big games.
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Eh…no.

Let’s say this upgrade thing releases at the very beginning of 2024.

There won’t be more 3rd party support exclusive to ONLY this new upgrade model in 2024/2025 than there was for the original Switch 2017/2018.

Most 3rd party ports in the next few years will have a version also running on the 2021 OLED Switch and 2019 Lite Switch.

Why? Because there is no good reason for publishers to spend the effort on a Nintendo userbase port and ignore the current 100 million userbase.

What I am suggesting is that the 2024-2028 output on this new super duper upgrade model will have very little difference than the type of support we saw on the original Switch 2017-2021.

No good argument why it would be much more/different.

I’m talking about what the new model provides that the current models can’t. (People expecting the new model will give greater 3rd party support because of its power that would skip the older models)

A 3rd party port that runs on the new model as well as the 2019 Lite model IS NOT an example of 3rd party support increase that the new model provides because of its “modern architecture”

I suspect the number of exclusive “power upgrade pro Switch” 3rd party support in 2024 to be LESS than than the 3rd party support the OG Switch got in 2017
 
For long term 3rd party support, it would definitely be ace if Nintendo, for once, would manage to not fall from a successful system to a "dud" like in the last gens.

With scalability getting better and better and more tools being available for devs, it's becoming more of a financial question than a tech related one.
Sure, there will be "confused_blink.gif" decisions even in future gens, but ultimately it's about money, so give the 3rds an ecosystem that's too attractive to pass on.
 
I really don't understand Grubb.

Of course people are going to report on you saying you've heard that a Switch 2 may be announced this year, because people are clamouring for it. Just like you're clamouring for views and attention on your channel. It works both ways.

At the end of the day, if he didn't want people to talk about it, why bring it up in the first place? It all comes across as more desperate attention-seeking by insiders. Has he not learned lessons from placing all of his bets on Zelda and Metroid last September?
 
BlueSpirit20 said:
I really don't understand Grubb.

Of course people are going to report on you saying you've heard that a Switch 2 may be announced this year, because people are clamouring for it. Just like you're clamouring for views and attention on your channel. It works both ways.

At the end of the day, if he didn't want people to talk about it, why bring it up in the first place? It all comes across as more desperate attention-seeking by insiders. Has he not learned lessons from placing all of his bets on Zelda and Metroid last September?
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Sounds like you understand perfectly!
 
Hairway to Steven said:
If the hardware is powerful enough and Nintendo doesn't dither, there shouldn't be a problem.

The Switch was already outdated tech when it released.
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This is the exact kind of nonsense that they mean they don't want to have to put up with for another 7 years, please point out to me the 2017 tech that made the Switch outdated.

You can't because it doesn't exist (or costs several times as much) and the Switch wasn't outdated in any sense.
 
My Tulpa said:
Eh…no.

Let’s say this upgrade thing releases at the very beginning of 2024.

There won’t be more 3rd party support exclusive to ONLY this new upgrade model in 2024/2025 than there was for the original Switch 2017/2018.

Most 3rd party ports in the next few years will have a version also running on the 2021 OLED Switch and 2019 Lite Switch.

Why? Because there is no good reason for publishers to spend the effort on a Nintendo userbase port and ignore the current 100 million userbase.

What I am suggesting is that the 2024-2028 output on this new super duper upgrade model will have very little difference than the type of support we saw on the original Switch 2017-2021.

No good argument why it would be much more/different.

I’m talking about what the new model provides that the current models can’t. (People expecting the new model will give greater 3rd party support because of its power that would skip the older models)

A 3rd party port that runs on the new model as well as the 2019 Lite model IS NOT an example of 3rd party support increase that the new model provides because of its “modern architecture”

I suspect the number of exclusive “power upgrade pro Switch” 3rd party support in 2024 to be LESS than than the 3rd party support the OG Switch got in 2017
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1st, this is not upgraded version its full next generation of Switch, so stop calling it just upgraded version.

Of Course there will be some 3rd party exclusives (probably even on launch) that will not be released on current Switch versions.

Yes, smaller and less demanding games will be released for current Switch versions also, but big 3rd party games will start releasing exclusively for Switch 2.

Its not point only about 100m user base, but its point if some game could run on current Switch versions and if it can run, at what state and what are sacrifices. Because not every 3rd party dev want to release its game in 2024. running at 540p resolution.

I know what are you suggesting but you ignoring two of my main points, Switch 2 is coming from very successful console so plenty of 3rd parties will be there from day one compared to current Switch, and because cross gen and Nvidia DLSS, Switch 2 will handle big games much easier.
 
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