It would be used in both handheld and docked.Would DLSS be a feature that the Switch would only use in docked or could it be used in portable mode as well?
Yeah, I agree. E3 would be to show this because, where the Lite and OLED were, ostensibly, the same thing as a regular Switch but portable/slightly improved, this thing is gonna need to be shown alongside some gameplay to be like "Look at the PERFORMANCE"That's right but it's the big stuff here, need to showcase the games.
That would mean the system would be announced before E3, which is great for me.Yeah, I agree. E3 would be to show this because, where the Lite and OLED were, ostensibly, the same thing as a regular Switch but portable/slightly improved, this thing is gonna need to be shown alongside some gameplay to be like "Look at the PERFORMANCE"
Revisions are not the same thing as new hardware and you know it.Switch was announced in October 2016 and released March 2017
Switch Lite was announced July 2019 and released September 2019
Switch OLED was announced July 2021 and released October 2021
The New 3DS line was announced August 2014 in Japan and released October 2014
New 3DS XL was announced January 2015 for America and released a month later
The 3DS proper was announced via one line in a press release in March 2010, unveiled properly at E3 2010, and released in February 2011
Nintendo has been doing less than one year between announce/release for over a decade at this point.
Anticipating the DIRTY officially produced xenoblades comparison montageYeah, I agree. E3 would be to show this because, where the Lite and OLED were, ostensibly, the same thing as a regular Switch but portable/slightly improved, this thing is gonna need to be shown alongside some gameplay to be like "Look at the PERFORMANCE"
LolI'd be hesitant to call this "Switch 2" despite it being NVN2.
They needed to say "yes there's new hardware coming" because Wii U was floundering and they have a stock price to maintainRevisions are not the same thing as new hardware and you know it.
And no, you can't just ignore the original NX announcement; hell we already knew of several games that had been formally announced for the NX before it was actually given its final name (chiefly Dragon Quest 11). The console was first announced in March 2015; as "NX", just like how every single console Nintendo has ever made (excluding Wii U) was previously announced as a codename prior to release.
This is why I got an OLED right out of the gate. Sold my launch unit to recoup most of the cost and should get ~15 months out of the OLED.I'm really torn right now.
My launch switch is aging and I'd like to buy an OLED. But I'd be pissed to see a "pro" releasing a few months later...
I don’t think they have been announced yet so people are using E3 as a moniker for the June Direct.Glad to see some new info. Looking forward to a new console whenever it gets released.
When people refer to E3 do they just mean a Nintendo Direct in June?
I know the in-person E3 is cancelled but I can't find any actual dates for a digital E3 on the official E3 and ESA websites.
They needed to say "yes there's new hardware coming" because Wii U was floundering and they have a stock price to maintain
N64 specifically? No.They needed to say "yes there's new hardware coming" because Wii U was floundering and they have a stock price to maintain
in any case: OK, so this might be positioned as a new revision? Or maybe the times have just changed? I don't think looking at how they announced/released the N64 is really applicable in 2022 lol
When people refer to E3 do they just mean a Nintendo Direct in June?
I know the in-person E3 is cancelled but I can't find any actual dates for a digital E3 on the official E3 and ESA websites.
I'm not expecting a Switch Pro.Lol
You are not getting a Switch Pro seven years into the Switch's life (2023)
Like I see where you're coming from, I really do, but look at most consumer electronics: smartphones are announced like a month before they ship. Game consoles have, at most, a year between official reveal and release. Now when I say "reveal" I mean E3 stage show presentation, or trailer, or whatever. Mentioning the console in a press release, or dropping a codename, that could happen for any number of reasons at any time. "NX" getting dropped in 2015 when it did was, like @Fuffelpups said, to ensure shareholders that their partnership with DeNA was not the only future for the company, and that despite abysmal sales of the Wii U they did have more hardware in the works. Codename drops are really not much to go off of. I'll say they tend to come earlier depending on how the previous console was doing, because shareholders need to be assured that they are not going to rest on failing laurels. Even the Wii, by the time "Cafe" was being tossed around, was pretty much done.N64? No.
Every single other Nintendo console along with the N64? Yeah, probably worth taking a look at.
The fact is that Nintendo have a pretty stern historical precedent with how they announce their systems. You can choose to completely ignore it, or you can actually look back and see how they announce their systems normally.
Your launch Switch will pay close to the actual OLED.I'm really torn right now.
My launch switch is aging and I'd like to buy an OLED. But I'd be pissed to see a "pro" releasing a few months later...
If the global supply situation is scaring them then they may as well release no new hardware until 2027+, since it's not going away any time soon.
And therein lies the problem with your theory. Game consoles are NOT smartphones; they are a wholly unique category within the wider technology sector.Like I see where you're coming from, I really do, but look at most consumer electronics: smartphones are announced like a month before they ship. Game consoles have, at most, a year between official reveal and release. Now when I say "reveal" I mean E3 stage show presentation, or trailer, or whatever. Mentioning the console in a press release, or dropping a codename, that could happen for any number of reasons at any time. "NX" getting dropped in 2015 when it did was, like @Fuffelpups said, to ensure shareholders that their partnership with DeNA was not the only future for the company, and that despite abysmal sales of the Wii U they did have more hardware in the works. Codename drops are really not much to go off of. I'll say they tend to come earlier depending on how the previous console was doing, because shareholders need to be assured that they are not going to rest on failing laurels. Even the Wii, by the time "Cafe" was being tossed around, was pretty much done.
The Switch? STILL selling incredibly well. So they have no reason to tell shareholders there's a new unit coming. In fact it behooves them to keep telling them "oh we're halfway through the life cycle." Shareholders want one thing and that's stable, reliable profits.
But again, what if this is being positioned more like a "New 3DS" kind of revision than an outright "Switch 2"? Then it all lines up.And therein lies the problem with your theory. Game consoles are NOT smartphones; they are a wholly unique category within the wider technology sector.
Game consoles are an integrated hardware and software business; and only exist for the purpose of enabling the creating of video game software. This means that they are reliant on a myriad of internal and external development partners that need concrete details about the hardware that they're working on years before they launch. They CANNOT be released like other consumer electronic devices, or else they end up with zero actual game software available for them
Even the Xbox Series X/S, a console which literally launched with zero exclusive titles was announced a full year and a half prior to its release.
You only need to look at the entierty of the history of game console announcements to realise how a new console release cannot work like you are suggesting. Switch 2 will be announced and released like every single other Nintendo console ever made has done before, because that's the way it has to be done in order to work.
But again, what if this is being positioned more like a "New 3DS" kind of revision than an outright "Switch 2"? Then it all lines up.
Haha well you're already talking above my technical knowledge level so I'm gonna trust you on it!You are not getting an incremental revision 7 years after the Switch's launch. That ship has long since sailed.
And this is no incremental revision. DLSS alone necessitates an entierly new hardware architecture (Turing or Ampere; most likely Ampere).
What it is positioned as will be 100% up to Nintendo's marketing department. The hardware itself has zero bearing on whether it's a Switch 2 or Switch pro or Switch pineapple.You are not getting an incremental revision 7 years after the Switch's launch. That ship has long since sailed. And the only reason why that happened with the Game Boy Color was because Project Atlantis was a huge failure; with the GBA having to be internally pushed back all the way from 1996 to 2001.
And this is no incremental revision. DLSS alone necessitates an entierly new hardware architecture from NVidia (Turing or Ampere; most likely Ampere at this point).
Nah you right! Sorry @Dcubed, I didn't mean to get heated or anything!Whatever this is, please let's not fight over it, it makes this place very unpleasant and there is enough going on in the world without all this pointless back and forth and people trying to score points.
Yup. It's Ampere. This also means that Switch 2 will feature raytracing support (though how well it'll actually work in practice of course remains to be seen).
Because that's been the consistent and continually corroborated rumor for like a year or more now.Wait..........why are some still thinking this new hardware would release in 2022?
ooooh same same!!! I'm desperately hoping this releases this year. My current Switch, a launch unit:No worries. I'm just excited to finally get some info about the damn thing after so long!!
I'm still of the opinion that somewhere along this rumor mill there was a change and we got the OLED as it is last year instead. If Nintendo wants to screw those people over by releasing a much stronger more attractive product within a year of that, then that sucks.Because that's been the consistent and continually corroborated rumor for like a year or more now.
That's not possible because the OLED model was datamined separately from this almost 2 years ago, and Dane couldn't ever have launched before 2022 due to Nvidia's Orin schedule laid out as of 2019.I'm still of the opinion that somewhere along this rumor mill there was a change and we got the OLED as it is last year instead. If Nintendo wants to screw those people over by releasing a much stronger more attractive product within a year of that, then that sucks.
So I don't think we'll be seeing anymore new hardware until 2023 at the earliest. We've already been getting different models and revisions every other year anyway.
Wait..........why are some still thinking this new hardware would release in 2022?
Despair, otherwise known as literally the only information of substance that we actually have.despair. anyone reasonable should know by now, march 1st, that no new hardware is releasing this year.
What rumors would these be? Is this Nate's prediction or is it coming from somewhere else?FYI the current rumors say it's planned for late 2022.
Nate, Bloomberg, Grubb, I believe Nikkei also said this.What rumors would these be? Is this Nate's prediction or is it coming from somewhere else?
There's no reason to believe BotW 2 isn't launching this year.Hmm, I maintain my theory of a "switch pro" launching on march 2023 with botw2. Sure, an advanced model 6 years after the launch is not that common, but switch has shown us that it is all but common. If they want to prolong the life of the machine beyond the usual console cycle, it has sense then that they release a more powerful version later in the cycle than usual.
And with the recent news about Pokemon I'm reafirmed in this. Nintendo doesn't need to launch botw2 this year.
Would Nintendo really announce a new Switch with DLSS a year plus, ahead and expect to keep the sales momentum of their current consoles? Who is going to buy the backlog of old consoles that are going to be obsolete in comparison to this new one?You guys are getting lost in the weeds over the differences between an initial announcement and a full reveal. Sure, Nintendo often does full reveals less than a year before release. But the initial announcement usually comes well before that, and we haven't had that yet. It's the initial announcement that gets the apparatus in motion and the wheels turning with regard to partnerships, development, etc. Partners get confidential info at that point that allows them to make plans, which the rest of us aren't privy to until the full reveal.
Would Nintendo really announce a new Switch with DLSS a year plus, ahead and expect to keep the sales momentum of their current consoles? Who is going to buy the backlog of old consoles that are going to be obsolete in comparison to this new one?